You know, after this video I think my opinion has seriously changed. At this point in time, all these losers are contained away from the general public and being bullied into oblivion. I honestly can’t think of a better place to put them.
"It's okay to bully people I don't agree with" basically the same argument you are making. Truly a ɹǝɓɓıN moment. All you do by censoring them is give these socialist loving crazies even more credit. It's sad when you need to resort to the same methods Adolf used to silence free speech, "just ban and silence them". Love the hypocrisy.
@andrewdarko115 I suppose in that sense, it is good to destroy their shared grounds to spread them out. We don’t need them organizing, that’ll only cause problems.
@@ceno7046 It does look like a bunch of losers play it to act like they're in the military. Nothing more cringe than a basement dweller thinking he's a badass soldier man.
@@colonelcripple1459 That server was so much fun. I remember also seeing another version where it took place in the Pacific Theater. Man I wish those servers were back.
I remember there was one WW2 RP server which could be called in a way which the title says but it was actually pretty decent. People there RP'd characters and not portrayed their own ideas into them. Sadly servers like this don't last long, especially when they decide to have them moderated and ban racist, nazis and such people like that. But it was fun while it lasted. WW2 servers with actual RP and not populated from head to toe with fascists are not very common. Well, I guess we still have HL2RP.
Servers that get "banned" usually just get removed from the server list, they can keep playing if they want to. Edit: I actually think, that is the extent of what Garry can do.
No, he could full on blacklist them and ban the users with a game ban, but Devs/Moderators are too much of pussies to flat out ban people that give them money.
@@jezis6664 I mean, that must've been the owners that shut it down, which is a reasonable thing to do if you are expecting to not get any new players, because you're off the server list.
@@cabtaxi That should be the case with all servers, as long as you can get their IP address and port number you should still be able to connect to them.
I played on a German milsim server once and it was fun. Very active and lots of action, I managed to become a radio operator and it was a lot of fun calling in artillery on people. I hope Gary doesn't lump in German milsims with Nazi rp servers. That would suck. But I bet the nazis will invade the German milsims and ruin them because they wanna be nazis and everyone else just wants to drive a panzer and talk with funny accents. I say let them have a box to shit in rather than them shit in everyone else's box.
@@kettle4316 And Americans are Americas. Dropping Nukes, starting wars for no reason, starting coups, assasinations, stealing oil, killing poor people, etc. I know people love to have black sheeps, but broaden your knowledge and you will see that Nazi Germany did more to help than harm our human race.
@@kettle4316 they arent trying to be nazis its a WW2 pvp where like america and germany fight each other just because your playing on the german team in a WW2 video game doesnt mean your a nazi
Interestingly, as a libertarian, he had two choices, 1. It is Garry's game, so he can do what he wants. This is an argument based on property rights. or 2. Because he is a libertarian, he shouldn't decide what other people do with their life. This is in essence also a property right, the property of your time, resources etc. But I think he is too young to understand that an actual libertarian would have said one of those things. I am not a libertarian myself, but I've learnt about it and take some inspiration from that sphere.
@@chralexNET I know barely anything about political parties. I'm more of the belief we should all vote green party and work collectively to save the world. So thanks for explaining this
@@twistedaddiction you should really see who your voting for. Green parties depending what country your in want to abolish things like Nuclear power. Which at first thought sounds like a good thing but surprisingly Nuclear is now allot safer for the environment than coal and oil, 2nd to that they support the transfer over to battery powered items made out of lithium which is also horrible for the environment not to mention the fact that Lithium and cobalt mining have the most lucrative 3rd world country child slave labour businesses around the world. If the greens got power in electoral positions we would be almost doing worse for the environment than good.
@@twistedaddiction It sounds like you have a good heart my friend. I am not an American myself, so I don't exactly know the policies and values of the Green Party. How I think about politics is a bit dualistic. Firstly we have populist politics, this is essentially the politics of the career politician. The career politician generally does not care about making the world a better place, but mostly about benefitting themselves and their friends. This correlates well with the knowledge we have about psychopaths, they are more likely to blindly pursue power. Then there are the parties that are the unpopular truth seekers, these are usually small, and while they may not all agree with each other, they probably all genuinely believe that their ideas will make the world a better place. In relation to this, I think the most important thing is to not make your ideology into a religion, and not presume that one is right about everything. In relation to this, it is utterly dangerous to tie your self-image to a political ideology or party, because you always need to accept that you might have been wrong, like in science, and update your understanding as time goes on. In essence there is no difference between being religious and being strongly ideological. So in essence, it is always important to take the best from everything/everyone, which can only be done through honest dialogue. It is sad to see the massive polarization in the world these days, which in my view, is the consequence of these populist politics, which in the end is a consequence of having a democracy, because in essence democracy is a battle for the minds of the people, and some psychopaths just wants to win.
First guy got a point, the people that are for this ban don’t seem to realize that they will move to their servers if they can’t be in their own lanes so to speak… also wouldn’t it be better to be able to keep these types of people in one place where they’re easy to spot? Think long term not short term, critical thinking is useful. Edit: I’ve seen some argue about permaban but it’s not that hard to create a new account, modders do it all the time and same with UA-camrs like Soup who can just find ways around it…. so throw that argument out the window.
So? Then all of the human scum don't get to grow into a tumor in their safety bubbles and potently become criminals while more easily manipulated children go unchallenged when they "RP" on these servers full of dog groomers. Plus the game isn't public property, if you wanna spout amendments then make your own game instead of acting like a parasite that can only survive off the hard work of others like a neckbeard living in a mother's basement as they rant about x race on 4chan. Absolute potato heads trying to utilize American freedom to breed evil acts.
I understand that sentiment however servers like this serv as a place to indoctrinate pepole into an ideology. Its a echo chamber and its part of a established real strategy of humor first then through enogh repition pepole start beliving it. And some of the pepole runing thease servers are truebelivers doing this for that purpos. Also isent it intresting that there is nothing like that on the left for garrys mod only for very far rigth?
@@yeahokbuddy2510 You can practically tell this nimrod RPs on FNAF/Berlin servers to fulfill his weird fantasy's with minors. But hey, mUH AMeriCaN FrEEdOM!
yesterday i was playing a public sandbox server in gmod and this salty kid was screaming the n world after someone called him out for spawnkilling everyone and his dad heard him and his dad was screaming while the kid was begging and the kid just left after everyone heard screaming
This won't stop anything, the people who run the servers will still run them and just manually hand out the IP of the server. In what way do these people even affect other Gmod players anyway?
No one can even answer why those rp servers are "bad" Just total npc mentality where these people can't think for themselves but just go with the flow.
It’s not a question of what they do in the servers, it’s a question of what they do outside the servers. They idolise a Nazi movement and form groups with a voice, to spread this fkn DEGENERATE ideology. Bubsgame explores a Nazi server owner who is now a recruiter for a fkn nAZI militia. A group that stormed the capital, a group that antagonises minorities, a group that has the power to vote for laws and bills that restrict other people’s freedoms, a group that fantasies the extermination of a group of people. Garry is banning not just a problematic server but a place for nazies to have a voice. To squash a Nazi movement you must stop it at its roots. Do not disguise your freedom for oppressing others as a RIGHt because it isn’t a RIGHT it’s a belief that’s facist in nature. A freedom to oppress other people’s freedoms will not stand in the land of the free.
@@Coltara A lot of people have, they've been proven time and time again to be harbouring real Neo Nazi Losers especially among their staff. It makes light of the Nazis and has a lot of racist players(way more than usual for GMOD)
Exactly and even if they do have to worry about getting banned they’ll make new accounts and find new servers to troll. It’s like nobody has watched snipping soup who trolls servers all the time and creates new accounts when he’s banned. It’s not solving the issue, it’s just prolonging the inevitable. But everyone has short attention spans so they’ll have short term solutions to lean on.
They probably would inevitably find new hosts and rebrand, Harry Potter RP has already gone that way, Unsurprising that these servers would as well, especially the bigger networks that run multiple servers.
“If we outlaw murder then these murderers will just try and murder people somewhere else, guess we better not outlaw murder then” This is how this sounds
I think at the end of the day it's up to Garry to choose whether he wants Gmod to be associated with the Nazi roleplay servers or not. However, like the one dude said the Nazi roleplayers won't have anywhere else to go then they'll start joining other Gmod servers and that'll suck for everyone.
Except they won’t. They’ll have no place to roleplay this scenario. It’s stupid to say “we shouldn’t outlaw the bad things because it will make the bad thing happen more” because that isn’t true. At the end of the day what did we see: maybe a brief spike of them being in other servers and then being gone for good
Here is the thing about NaziRP servers, you have to willingly connect to one, if you don't play on it it doesn't effect whatsoever, personally I don't think they should be taken down.
Counter argument...Nazis are retards. And retards shouldn't play video games. And so there for, nazis shouldn't be allowed to play video games. So naturally their servers have to go.
@@NeiasaurusCreationsBut that removed the containment they currently have. Once the servers gone they will do the same nazi rp stuff on other more normal servers ruining them for the average players.
@@darth3911 Okay this is bad logic. People still do murders, so if we just get rid of murder laws in 1 state all the murderers will stay there and never travel ever in their life.... No, having these servers up literally ENCOURAGE this in the first place. That's why about 50% of the people there unironically do the rp. Its because its encourage by their friends, and these servers existing. Would racists still exist if you shut it down? Yeah probably. Just like they exist elsewhere. But its better to not encourage them, or give them special spaces to radicalize further. Nah, better to have them elsewhere where they can be mocked and bullied back into their senses and sanity. Remember kids. Bully the racist hard, and often to avoid future racism. It worked on the germans. It'll work on your local racist/nazi rper. Make him your friend, but also make sure to bully him so much that he'll eventually realize he's being a tardy. That's how you convert them. By bringing them into your friends, and than bullying them anytime they do anything remotely racist. Thus reminding them being racists isn't the norm, its the exception. And that no one else likes that shit. They'll naturally start to come around on their own usually.
I miss the old People of Gaming 1942 rp servers. The admins were practically non-existent so moderation was entirely down to the players. This led to many hilarious scenarios. Its sad to say that so many of my happiest gmod memories were in that server
Even myself as an old ww2 typhoon staff member, there will always be work around for these types of RP. Been away from GmodRP for like I believe 3 years now, but I feel like it won't change anything. Communities like these are like cockroaches.
i think its a bit more of a nuanced subject than people give it credit for. like i used to be active on a server called POG 1942rp and the whole idea of this server opposed to all these cringe serious rp servers is that it played like regular old dark rp. it wasnt deep roleplay like a serious rp or a rockford or something it was the whole idea that you can change your nickname or job name to whatever you can be voted in for different positions like normal dark rp not a shitty whitelist system. and the best part is that it was all about shitposts. we would just do stupid shit all the time. i remember multiple times making a secret society or a jew training camp where we would gather all the jews of the world and have like 25 people invade the reichstag. it was just a fun time. it seemed way different compared to literally any other ww2 rp server. but i think its also very irresponsible to actually censor people on a sandbox game. especially one thats not actually marketed towards children. idk im not a nazi and think being a nazi is wrong but thats not to say wrong people cant exist.
Just from looking at your video the guys who were actually on this server seemed pretty funny, I actually expected a lot more toxicity in your video but everyone seemed pretty normal but I do think maybe you just got lucky with your timing or something. I'm of the opinion of not caring either way, I don't think it will really do much if they get banned or not I just think the people who were on that server would move to a different place.
@@The_gaming_gazimon lol what? Those are breeding grounds for hardcore nazis with power complex, there's no RP to be had there. Everyone who talked about "serious roleplay" turned out to be a nazi IRL, too. I'm half-Jewish IRL, but I RPed as a nazi on those servers just for lulz sake (I took a story of a Jewish dude who survived by joining the German army and fighting for them and decided to make a character like that), and each and every guy who I talked with OOC, on discord or some shit about my actual race cut ties with me. That's not RPing, that's fucking derangement.
the only good thing to ever come out of nazi rp is "rp_1944berlin" I believe the map maker has now removed all nazi imagery now but its honestly a very well made map, and I'm happy to see this shits gonna be gone but I worry that no containment has been breach they're going to migrate to other rp servers.
ww2 RP used to be a thing, German occupation, American and russian armies as another faction as rebels and local Mafias, It was decent because there was variety, these modern servers take it too far and they are seriously racist. They really power trip. They slowly changed the servers because they were tired of resistance gameplay, they just want to scrutinize and be racist with no challengers lol
I love that one nazi dude towards 12 minutes in With an in-universe context, I like to imagine he's quickly changing sides so he can get away scottfree lol
Because Gary doesn't really care and before 2023 people didn't really care. If I had to imagine this started because Twitter Smooth Brains saw Bub-Gamings video on Nazi Servers and then started Harassing Gary into doing something about it. People that probably don't even play Gmod and have no idea that playing an SS member is fairly tamed when compared to some of the shit that goes on regularly in every Dark RP server.
@@nicksmith-rz2dl It looks bad for a company in 2023 to be associated even with pretend Nazis. But... Gmod has an even bigger, more serious problem, Grooming. Nothing is being done here to tackle that.
the 1942rp servers feel so depressing, even with the people not taking it seriously it gives off a depressing vibe and i would never even join it not even to troll it's just sad man
From what I’ve seen it’s mostly just guards standing around at the base *all day* doing nothing. In the videos you see (mainly jaythegernanpotato’s trolling vids) you don’t really see the actual Nazis going out and doing stuff much. Especially outside the city.
From past experiences on the 1942 to servers I never ran in into any nazis like people who were legitimately nazis But I think this new era of ww2 servers is filled with to many serious players. There use to be another popular ww2 game mode back in 2014 that you can be German army or resistance and you could be bread makers, wine makers etc, more of a ww2 dark rp which was a lot more appropriate lmao
@@exo_7536 I don't see why not. I get why people don't like it of course. But honestly, go into one of those servers, than go into one of the "normal" servers, there's really no difference. And like it was said in another comment ironically they're probably less racist in those servers. I don't really care if they ban them or not though, I don't really play Gmod anymore, just kinda boring to me now. It's Newman's game anyway, he'll decide what is and isn't allowed.
I would hate to see that. But I wouldn't be suprised if they start spreading around. Edit: Also in my opinion they might use the Ukraine situation like the AZOV Battalion for heavy propaganda.
@@dragutintheslav-veliki790 If you understand anything about religions, which if you THOROUGHLY study National Socialism, you'll come to find BANNING them only gives the more power. This Leftist Religion has been banned before, and last time it was, it took power in Germany.
I just don't understand why Gary is trying to make this change. I mean, has he even touched the game in years? Not to mention that GMod isn't going to radicalize anyone into being a Nazi. But I mainly just find it weird because if you were to remove that from the game for "moral" reasons then why not remove the killing or anything else you can do in GMod? I feel as if targetting one spot specifically will leave every other group on GMod exposed. This will not end good for anybody. On a slightly related note, I don't understand why people crash Nazi RP servers. Like, bro, it's called RP. Of course they're gonna get mad when you don't play along. Real Life Re-enactors exist too but would you call them nazis? I wouldn't so I don't understand how the same wouldn't apply to GMod unless the people running the Nazi servers were actually Nazis.
Ngl i kinda liked it when garry stopped giving a shit about gmod and let it run on its own for a while, dont like the idea of game modes being completely erased from the server browser. By "they have no reason to exist" logic, alot of game modes could be removed for being "toxic"
That sounds legitimately fun. I don't really do multiplayer games but that kind of thing is tempting, in a way just straight up screwing with Nazis isn't.
You know what a trashcan is for, right? You put the trash in the trash can so that it doesn't litter the house. But when you remove the trashcan, there's trash everywhere and the house looks filthy.
My opinion. On one hand it’s amazing. On the other hand I’m losing one of my favorite pass times with friends, to go on 1942 rp and make the nazi’s lives miserable.
@@quagmoe7879 It's truly incredible that you think simple trolling is "not being able to distinguish a game from reality" It just find it funny to piss off kids and weirdos
@@Impostersussyballs That’s literally not the part of the comment I was referring too lmfao. I couldn’t care less that they’re being trolled. That’s objectively a funny thing. It’s that this guy is calling the people behind the keyboards “nazi’s” even though most people on 1942 aren’t even interested in the political side, or racism. They literally just want to screw around in a messed up RP situation. You can tell who is actually serious about it because they have the social skills of a North Korean labor camp guard. Most people on those servers didn’t do anything wrong, and there’s not really anything wrong with what they’re doing at all. Categorizing them all as “kids and weirdos” is sort of a dick move. I could say the same about lots of other RP servers.
The argument of freedom of expression is quickly shut down once you realise PEOPLE VOTED FOR THE BANNING OF THOSE SERVERS, EXPRESSING THEIR RIGHT TO SPEECH, YOU IDIOT, YOU ABSOLUTE BUFFON
That Goat gave one of the most beautiful statements in all of UA-cam's history and has entirely altered my outlook on life, cured my depression, and turned me from being incredibly horribly racist. Thank you Goat.
Here's the thing about Nazi servers. Every server has people who take their roleplay very seriously, and when it happens to be on a Nazi server of course people are going to think they are actual Neo's. Most people who play Berlin 1942 happen to like WW2 games, and WW2 history so we're different. Also people need to take a step back, and realize the cringe is in the My Little Pony servers not Nazi Germany.
I am an actual national socialist, but to your surprise, I am actually a very nice guy who loves nature, who is kind to the elderly, who never stares at hot women and who respects all cultures... Did you actually ever talk to a "Nazi" in real life? Most people who meet with me think that I am an amazing person and that my only flaw is being too good for my own good...
@@damianoasteriti8530 If you're an actual National Socialist then you shouldn't be on UA-cam because UA-cam's founding CEO Susan Wojcicki is Jewish so you are technically supporting a Jew by logging onto her website.
I don't care, though I do know for a fact playing video games doesn't make people violent, racist, or criminals. Or watching movies about the actual historical events for that matter. And everyone should be allowed to do their own things as art is art. But on the other hand, we're in an age where people *think* actual Nazis are still forming hate malitias IRL and going around threatening lives...so if it makes those kind of lunnies feel "safer", then it's fair game.
Whether games make people violent or not is completely out of the question. We have absolutely no idea about how people truly are. What is clear is that there's people pretending to be Nazis with a questionable ambiguity of whether it's serious or not... Also, it's baffling that you mention historical documentaries since these AREN'T a game and are well, historical and informative. Also, what does 'art' even have to do with this?
@@haarp9069 If you can't understand the relation from the above scenarios, then that's out of one's own ignorance. Don't blame me. Firstly, just because an actor is portraying a Nazi in a movie, does not mean they're an actual representation of those figureheads & ideals. Secondly just like books, and paintings, and statues, video games are art, just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should burn them/it. Ironically that's what fascists do, burn things that don't politically agree with them, no matter the degree. Third, just because someone is playing an FPS, doesn't mean they're an active shooter irl, the same logic can be applied here. The media tried pushing this same propaganda ages ago that gamers are violent because what they play. It's simply untrue. Fourth, just because one person from that RP does something bad for attention, doesn't mean the entire group is inherently bad. Assuming an entire group of people bad, just because one's actions is grossly ignorant. (which there hasn't even been any evidence) is illogical and prejudiced. Lastly, I'm not defending this sort of RP nor will I play it or care if it's deleted. However, going after people before you even know them rather than just letting them be is how you create hate/division. If you unironically want to create an actual Nazi, go ahead and do that, they'll use it as an excuse to perform larger atrocities/tantrums. --------------------------------------------------- It's like calling kids racists and trying to shame and attack them during a civil war reenactment... Utter nonsense. Or Reee'ing over the fact some old WW2 battlefield/FPS shooters have german factions, you know exactly what those are right? Shall we ban WW2 shooters/genres?
@@jackrabbit1704 First, comparing a professional industry with an established deontology to an open space where literally EVERYONE can be in is outrageous for me. Plus, you will never ever find a WW2 movie where the Nazi regime isn't displayed in a derogatory and conscious perspective. Second, to assume that this is a matter of 'my' opinion is baffling to say the least. This isn't a matter of whether I like it or not, I simply think it shouldn't be allowed. Also, this isn't about me, it's about a collective choice proceeded in a VOTE where people can share their opinions. You don't care about this but you suddenly care about people having opinions on this? Third, that's a false equivalence. Playing a game doesn't equate playing an active role. I also never said that this was about the 'people' in there and simply about the contents inside these servers. It's a matter of fact that while games don't define a person, they DO influence. Please don't go into a narrative of 'media propaganda' and try to slap it here; you'll look petty, to be honest. Fourth, I once again never said that this was about a 'group' or a 'person'. I know these are convenient terms to go on an argument about how 'arbitrary and coercive' this vote is, but in fact the very same people who are there can literally cast their vote on this issue if they want to. People will still harass and prejudice; it's something that's gonna happen anyway. But what about the people who think these servers should be banned and where you're atributing "prejudice and ignorance"? Pretty sure that you should also get to know them. Lastly, if you want to create hate/division, take your time and write a paragraph on a matter you have absolutely no care for and go on a rhetorical rambling on the 'inherent' consequences in something as simple as this. You'll look good, and you'll make them look bad. ;) --------------------------------------------- No, they shouldn't be banned because none of these cases are about people pretending and actually getting into their roles. A Civil War reenactment is... A Civil War reenactment that's merely recreative... And WW2 games with German factions aren't centralized on the NAZI ideals, dude. It's like, just like how your entire message went, you're just deliberately ignoring the fact that there's Allied factions... Suddenly it's also bad to play Allied factions because they also did bad stuff.
@@haarp9069 It's become apparent you're mistaking "false equivalencies" for your own inability to see logic and or reason. The professional industry has nothing to do with this(now that's a false equivalence as it brings in irrelevant quotas) especially considering history and its roleplay is everywhere in society. Just because someone puts on an evil role does not mean they're a bad person nor do they have to be a "professional" to obtain this status. I'm not going to socially dox the kids and or adults that play these games and lock them up as if they're actual Nazis. Without proof, they're not. Imagine playing a crooked cop, or a racist elf, and some woke egotist with opinions of yours coming in & judging/destroying them/their lives. Nonsense. Same with any other titles that has WW2 genres & evil Nazis as playable factions. FYI Stars Wars Empire of clones are literally space nazis.... They kill children, and commit genocide. Shall we ban them for their encompassment roleplay of bad evil reeee morals? --------------------------------------------------------------- Whether or not it gets taken down, I already stated I don't care. If you want to interject your personal opinion on people you don't even know, go ahead. Stir up the hornets nest I wont stop you. I'm also not going to join in because I don't hold prejudices against people I don't know like that. It's gold you want to call me petty when you're using prejudices against people you don't know to hate/judge & label them. If this isn't a matter of what you like or not(opinion), why are you, calling others petty, while trying to push an agenda void of the logic of reason for clicks. Hence your complete and utter lack of response & counter argument to the irony & past examples of this exact same setting. --------------------------------------------------------------- "And WW2 games with German factions aren't centralized on the NAZI ideals" Oh would you look at that, you've already counter argued your entire argument....and showed willingness to hold assumed prejudices. Congratulations, I believe this is what they call hypocrisy. If there were real tangiable hate groups coming out of the RP, there'd be evidence, but just like any other WW2 game with Nazi factions, then fine, take down that specific problem population. Child grooming & mental manipulation is not the same as RP. So if you wanna push your egotism, go ahead, delete the GAME servers> ban the specific trouble spots, whatever makes you feel safer at night. Labeling all, being prejudiced, attacking without knowing, burning history, creating hate-groups to do so, etc is not where i'll follow you. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Lastly. I, Don't, Care. Your entire "counter" was null the second you failed to admit reality & direct logical comparisons, claiming every point was a "false equivalence" simply because your feelings didn't agree with it.
I think it's a slippery slope. What about other gamemodes? Are drugs bad? Guns? Karen RP? Gangs? Furry? Where do we draw the line? I feel like it's not as simple as "nazi bad kthxbye"
@@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel I'm not saying it's a major catastrophe. I'm saying for almost 6000 days, the Gmod community has been able to police themselves pretty well. Now Garry steps in. Then what? Which gamemode or addon that we enjoy is next?
I don’t agree with Nazis at all, but I believe everyone should have the rights to their beliefs, even if mainly looked down on, it’s only until it starts getting people hurt that it should be stopped
@alt f5 You can be a natsoc without being german, but I get it. I don’t know why people put emphasis on this though. I’m pretty sure it is illegal to role play as a nazi in Germany.
In translation: "I do not agree with those who insult my mom and talk about her like 13 year olds, but I am willing to let them talk because I do not believe in violence and only peace." Congratulations bro, you just became a victim of school bullying.
I don't agree with half the people on that server, but this was ridiculous. The fact a server that could only offend people if they joined them got removed is just straight up censorship. Garry brought up his sons potentially running into the server when playing, and being worried about that, but as someone who grew up in the early internet who was exposed to all kinds of stuff, it really doesn't have that much of an effect on you.
I don't know... I can see both sides in the argument. On one hand it doesn't look good for a modern company to be associated with Nazis, but on the other hand this is like pretending WW2 never happened. I find people that like to play Nazi ironically less Cringe than the people that rage like a bitch in heat over people that want to play Nazis. I view it the same way I do shooters. Just because someone wants to play as an SS member doesn't mean they're going to march off to Ukraine and join Azov Brigade. The rationale that "Allowing people to roleplay as them may lead to more of them" is about as flawed as when Hillary Clinton said "Shooting Demons in Doom or Killing martial artist in Mortal Kombat will lead to increased Violent Crime." It's like how Civilization had let their players play Mao and Stalin, but Hitler is banned and the Civil-War just plain doesn't exist for the American Faction. But hey, at least Gmod lets you talk about it. In Civ even mentioning the SS or General Lee is enough to get your banned from the forums.
@@legend234567 Also, another counter argument.... Nazis are retarded. Retards shouldn't be allowed to play video games, or get onto the internet. So therefor nazis shouldn't be allowed on the internet or to play video games. Naturally their servers have to be deleted to encourage them to leave.
@@legend234567 I don't agree with that alarmist mentality at all. Communism came back in America because society at large stopped talking about it. In that vacuum the more heinous aspects of the political ideology were essentially forgotten, giving sympathizer the means to wash it of all it's short-comings. Kids aren't aware that Mass-Starvation numbering in the 10's of millions always accompany a Communist regime, They don't know about the abuse power that would make even Caligula second guess himself and the have no idea about the rampant cannibalism. Whether people want to admit it or not, WW2 happened. The Nazis did exist. Ignoring it ever even happened only allows smooth brains on twitter to call everything they dislike a Nazi and everyone they hate some version of Hitler. Completely watering down the name and the actions of the party. I like Postal, I think it's one of the best shooters ever made. But, I don't have any interest to go on random killing sprees. If the mob is so outraged by it, age restrict the servers. That should have already been the case with all online, multiplayer games. 13 is way too low an age.
@@legend234567 It's also glossing over the true elephant in the room: Gmod's rampant Grooming problem which was the true crux of Bub's Video. I fail to see how a bunch of people pretending to be nazis in a nazi server is somehow worse than the kids that run up to adult players and make sexual advances to them. It's a very strange hill Garry has chose to fight on. I'd be more bothered by Diddlers using my software then I would Nazi larpers. But, if Garry did the responsible thing and just banned children from playing the game that would hurt sales more than I think most people are aware of and we can't have that.
@@Vaniity_Velvet I don't think it's that strange of a hill. It's not like there are dedicated pedophile servers. Pedophiles are likely to be around anywhere that adults and kids play together in real time, the only thing that can really be done is individually removing them. However, whilst I see the purpose of these servers, people enjoy military RP, and some people are interested in WW2 era specifically, it's essentially a place that legitimate Nazis can congregate, groom people into becoming legitimate Nazis, including kids, and all under the guise of "it's just roleplay".
How are these servers bad again? Literally no one is explaining why these servers should be taken down. Because "muh internet swastika"? You can't be serious..
Honestly, the reason why they are getting banned is that they act as a hub for raiding other servers. Think about it for a second, what kind of people does this edgy aesthetic of these servers attract? Think about them as late 2016 to 2017 Leafy's fanbase, which even if it is contained within itself had been responsible for raids on other channels due to toxicity they spread. And this does not go over the fact that whatever or not the people there are actually hateful. That's not the point. The point is that this edgy aesthetic of those servers inevitably attracts the very those who want to ruin fun for everyone by using those servers as a hub to attract others so they can organize raids on other servers. Like why do you think most raids on GMod is followed by the spams of swastika and repetition of racial slurs? And that ruins for everyone, as really those servers which those people dwell on is not really that fun at all, which just cements the point that they act as a hub, not for the actual or genuinely funny RP.
Well lets be honest, asking gmod players is kind of dumb because most of them are just edgy and think they're funny so asking any real question you wont get a straight answer but a good video explaining why 1942 RP is bad is this one by Bubgames: ua-cam.com/video/oRKUeLuUBT0/v-deo.html but in my opinion banning the servers is a good thing.
@@somekidkekasuars7881 The guy goes about insulting other people in video games (le epic troll), he's not exactly in the position to be calling out toxicity in a server. When I played 1942 RP years ago it was fun, none of the people I played with were actual nazis. Perhaps now it's changed a bit but it's not like there aren't people in every other Gmod server saying the word "n!gger." To me it seems like something Gary wanted to do for brownie points on the internet. There are more pertinent issues that Gary/Facepunch choose to ignore. But it's not as easy as wiping a bunch of roleplay servers and getting a pat on the back from twitter for virtue signalling.
And at first I thought it was normal RP... and I joined their discord... to see the news of a server and uh... how to say... They're deranged to the hilt
I'm just worried that these servers will move to other categories like DarkRP/Police RP etc. There needs to be some kind of report system that can't be abused otherwise these servers will be harder to avoid for people.
In all honesty, banning these servers, while seemingly cathartic, will not change anyone. It seems most players were joking anyway, but the hardcore types will still exist, still being who they are. These servers were their little weird corner of the internet to be the people they want to be in a digital, contained environment. Now they will either spend more time in niche forums or in other ways digging deeper into the internet to fulfill whatever they want, and whatever that leads to could be *far* worse then video game RP
Banning Nazi rp? Let’s go It’s really cool to see a new kind of video for your channel! Kinda reminds me of how Bub games has started doing investigative videos too
POV: Pixelcat notices Bubgames is making good content from trolling to a journalist so he does a topic that has already been investigated but chooses to just ask random people which isn’t a source…
Oh no, he's asking the GARRY'S MOD community's opinions, not the pesky 'twitter opinions'... Definitely not a bias (or deliberate bias for that matter) at all.
The players in that server are no different than the players in all the other servers, heck, they might actually be ironically less racist, etc. This is just dumb really.
@@sirrabbitthered8496 ua-cam.com/video/Okuguz_9YfA/v-deo.html bub games trolls nazi servers, in a few of his videos u can clearly see racist stuffed being spammed in ooc chat XD its actually really not hard to find prof of accusations of nazi servers.
@@sirrabbitthered8496 i've personally trolled on a few and my god when they are pissed they will say the most fucked up shit in the chat box that is out of character
@@warcriminal121 your name is War Criminal and you trolled a Nazi RP server? Dude you are metal. Your word isn't prof though. If you make an accusation you have to have a recording of some kind or screen shot. That makes it more believable.
I used to play on one of those servers, half my time as a resistance dude doing like little ambushes on ss patrols and the other half as a police dude chasing mobsters and running after pretend rabbis. It was pretty fun and the people that don't take it THAT serious on those servers are an absolute joy to chill with BUT there's a serious amount of terminally online neckbeards/15 year olds on a powertrip on those servers that need to be bullied more. After a while the shock value of it wears of and I realized I was just playing military RP with swastikas. But overall I've always had a pretty fun time and its kinda sad to see a niche little thing like that go. But it is what it is at the end of the day.
Go ahead and destroy their containment server. It'll be about as good as taking a sledge hammer to a rusty above-ground septic tank. With all sincerity, the best way to deal with people like that -- and this goes for any group anybody disagrees with -- is to just let them be. As long as they're not doing anything actually bad, like irl crimes where actual people actually suffer, it's fine. If you don't believe violent video games make people violent, you shouldn't believe bad RP makes someone a bad person irl.
@@christianlane1047 Festering in their own space is containment. People going there because it's fun to troll and run over people with those spiffy looking cars isn't growth.
What I miss is consistency. If you ban Nazi RP, you have to ban Comunist RP, or Pinochet RP ( just to have a "neutral" authoritarian system) too. Now, I don't play GarysMod, but I get that some people aren't their because they're actually Nazis/Communists/Pinochetists, but just want to be placed into a specific historical scenario, because I can be prety autistic as well. Even though of course therr are going to be people like these on the specific servers.
You know, after this video I think my opinion has seriously changed. At this point in time, all these losers are contained away from the general public and being bullied into oblivion. I honestly can’t think of a better place to put them.
Based.
it's also based
"It's okay to bully people I don't agree with" basically the same argument you are making. Truly a ɹǝɓɓıN moment. All you do by censoring them is give these socialist loving crazies even more credit. It's sad when you need to resort to the same methods Adolf used to silence free speech, "just ban and silence them". Love the hypocrisy.
Too bad they will prolly just start doing this shit in dark rp (also based)
@andrewdarko115 I suppose in that sense, it is good to destroy their shared grounds to spread them out. We don’t need them organizing, that’ll only cause problems.
That one military rp guy who just straight out shot you for taking once seems like a fun guy.
GarnetGaming MRP is a fucking joke, I would rant about why I hate the server. But y'know
Pts is active 🤓 hey pts is active proceeds to gun down comrade
@@ceno7046 It does look like a bunch of losers play it to act like they're in the military. Nothing more cringe than a basement dweller thinking he's a badass soldier man.
@@ceno7046 dude stfu pts is active you can't comment rn
they do more shooting of their own fucking ranks than they ever do of enemy ranks, it's utterly fucking moronic
I wish they just had a full all factions WW2 rp server, could be cool as hell
Imperium Axis vs Allies was fun while it lasted.
or ww1 server...could work aswell
@@colonelcripple1459 That server was so much fun. I remember also seeing another version where it took place in the Pacific Theater. Man I wish those servers were back.
@@HopelessPhoenix existed, played it, did not work well
at first i tought that these servers were ww2 rp :(
Rip the best servers to troll on
facts
Indeed
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I remember there was one WW2 RP server which could be called in a way which the title says but it was actually pretty decent. People there RP'd characters and not portrayed their own ideas into them. Sadly servers like this don't last long, especially when they decide to have them moderated and ban racist, nazis and such people like that. But it was fun while it lasted. WW2 servers with actual RP and not populated from head to toe with fascists are not very common. Well, I guess we still have HL2RP.
Servers that get "banned" usually just get removed from the server list, they can keep playing if they want to.
Edit: I actually think, that is the extent of what Garry can do.
No, he could full on blacklist them and ban the users with a game ban, but Devs/Moderators are too much of pussies to flat out ban people that give them money.
the werewolf NRP got shut down
@@jezis6664 I mean, that must've been the owners that shut it down, which is a reasonable thing to do if you are expecting to not get any new players, because you're off the server list.
what about the hogwarts rp servers then?
@@cabtaxi That should be the case with all servers, as long as you can get their IP address and port number you should still be able to connect to them.
I played on a German milsim server once and it was fun. Very active and lots of action, I managed to become a radio operator and it was a lot of fun calling in artillery on people. I hope Gary doesn't lump in German milsims with Nazi rp servers. That would suck. But I bet the nazis will invade the German milsims and ruin them because they wanna be nazis and everyone else just wants to drive a panzer and talk with funny accents. I say let them have a box to shit in rather than them shit in everyone else's box.
Nazis are Nazis dude
@@kettle4316 What do you mean by this?
@@kettle4316 And Americans are Americas. Dropping Nukes, starting wars for no reason, starting coups, assasinations, stealing oil, killing poor people, etc.
I know people love to have black sheeps, but broaden your knowledge and you will see that Nazi Germany did more to help than harm our human race.
@@kettle4316 they arent trying to be nazis its a WW2 pvp where like america and germany fight each other just because your playing on the german team in a WW2 video game doesnt mean your a nazi
@@kettle4316 Video games are video games dude. It isn’t real life.
"I'm a libertarian and *I* think Nazis are cringe." lol
A good portion of people in the U.S. that consider themselves libertarian are just Nazis
Interestingly, as a libertarian, he had two choices,
1. It is Garry's game, so he can do what he wants. This is an argument based on property rights.
or
2. Because he is a libertarian, he shouldn't decide what other people do with their life. This is in essence also a property right, the property of your time, resources etc.
But I think he is too young to understand that an actual libertarian would have said one of those things.
I am not a libertarian myself, but I've learnt about it and take some inspiration from that sphere.
@@chralexNET I know barely anything about political parties. I'm more of the belief we should all vote green party and work collectively to save the world. So thanks for explaining this
@@twistedaddiction you should really see who your voting for. Green parties depending what country your in want to abolish things like Nuclear power. Which at first thought sounds like a good thing but surprisingly Nuclear is now allot safer for the environment than coal and oil, 2nd to that they support the transfer over to battery powered items made out of lithium which is also horrible for the environment not to mention the fact that Lithium and cobalt mining have the most lucrative 3rd world country child slave labour businesses around the world. If the greens got power in electoral positions we would be almost doing worse for the environment than good.
@@twistedaddiction It sounds like you have a good heart my friend. I am not an American myself, so I don't exactly know the policies and values of the Green Party.
How I think about politics is a bit dualistic. Firstly we have populist politics, this is essentially the politics of the career politician. The career politician generally does not care about making the world a better place, but mostly about benefitting themselves and their friends. This correlates well with the knowledge we have about psychopaths, they are more likely to blindly pursue power.
Then there are the parties that are the unpopular truth seekers, these are usually small, and while they may not all agree with each other, they probably all genuinely believe that their ideas will make the world a better place. In relation to this, I think the most important thing is to not make your ideology into a religion, and not presume that one is right about everything. In relation to this, it is utterly dangerous to tie your self-image to a political ideology or party, because you always need to accept that you might have been wrong, like in science, and update your understanding as time goes on. In essence there is no difference between being religious and being strongly ideological.
So in essence, it is always important to take the best from everything/everyone, which can only be done through honest dialogue. It is sad to see the massive polarization in the world these days, which in my view, is the consequence of these populist politics, which in the end is a consequence of having a democracy, because in essence democracy is a battle for the minds of the people, and some psychopaths just wants to win.
"You're not a nazi yourself?"
"HEEEELLL NAWWW BRO!"
Lmao I love those guys.
1:44 "Now, back to the smoothies." Oh that guy's got enthusiasm and entrepreneurial vision about smoothies. I'd love to try them.
First guy got a point, the people that are for this ban don’t seem to realize that they will move to their servers if they can’t be in their own lanes so to speak… also wouldn’t it be better to be able to keep these types of people in one place where they’re easy to spot? Think long term not short term, critical thinking is useful.
Edit: I’ve seen some argue about permaban but it’s not that hard to create a new account, modders do it all the time and same with UA-camrs like Soup who can just find ways around it…. so throw that argument out the window.
So? Then all of the human scum don't get to grow into a tumor in their safety bubbles and potently become criminals while more easily manipulated children go unchallenged when they "RP" on these servers full of dog groomers.
Plus the game isn't public property, if you wanna spout amendments then make your own game instead of acting like a parasite that can only survive off the hard work of others like a neckbeard living in a mother's basement as they rant about x race on 4chan. Absolute potato heads trying to utilize American freedom to breed evil acts.
I understand that sentiment however servers like this serv as a place to indoctrinate pepole into an ideology. Its a echo chamber and its part of a established real strategy of humor first then through enogh repition pepole start beliving it. And some of the pepole runing thease servers are truebelivers doing this for that purpos. Also isent it intresting that there is nothing like that on the left for garrys mod only for very far rigth?
Nah, let the servers rot
@@yeahokbuddy2510 lol ok
@@yeahokbuddy2510 You can practically tell this nimrod RPs on FNAF/Berlin servers to fulfill his weird fantasy's with minors.
But hey, mUH AMeriCaN FrEEdOM!
Imagine playing Garry`s Mod and not saying any offensive words
Garry's Mod players going 2 seconds without saying the N-Word challenge (IMPOSSIBLE!!!)
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor neighbor
yesterday i was playing a public sandbox server in gmod and this salty kid was screaming the n world after someone called him out for spawnkilling everyone and his dad heard him and his dad was screaming while the kid was begging and the kid just left after everyone heard screaming
Imagine asking the Twitter community for advice
So you think the "socialist" in "national socialist" means "socialist".
I love how most people were just like "thats good", but the people on the 1947 rp were all like "thats good" or "I just came here to kill people"
1947?
@@Syvern. lmfao
The war was long over by 1947
I’m Jewish and that “Gary Jewman” joke got me good 😂😂😂
Is it true that u guys like money
@ryan24287 dude they can hear pennies from a mile away. they can taste that your income just arrived in your bank account.
@@illegalcumtrader56 who doesnt like money? I'm not Jewish and I love money!
@@unoriginalperson72 are u sure?
@@illegalcumtrader56 everyone likes money, what a stupid question
"garryjewman" got me fucking dyin 💀💀💀
This won't stop anything, the people who run the servers will still run them and just manually hand out the IP of the server. In what way do these people even affect other Gmod players anyway?
mate why are you defending nazi rp servers that's pathetic
No one can even answer why those rp servers are "bad"
Just total npc mentality where these people can't think for themselves but just go with the flow.
It’s not a question of what they do in the servers, it’s a question of what they do outside the servers. They idolise a Nazi movement and form groups with a voice, to spread this fkn DEGENERATE ideology. Bubsgame explores a Nazi server owner who is now a recruiter for a fkn nAZI militia. A group that stormed the capital, a group that antagonises minorities, a group that has the power to vote for laws and bills that restrict other people’s freedoms, a group that fantasies the extermination of a group of people. Garry is banning not just a problematic server but a place for nazies to have a voice. To squash a Nazi movement you must stop it at its roots. Do not disguise your freedom for oppressing others as a RIGHt because it isn’t a RIGHT it’s a belief that’s facist in nature. A freedom to oppress other people’s freedoms will not stand in the land of the free.
@@Coltara Because Nazism is a cancer, and we need to excise it from our society. Fuck off fascist.
@@Coltara A lot of people have, they've been proven time and time again to be harbouring real Neo Nazi Losers especially among their staff. It makes light of the Nazis and has a lot of racist players(way more than usual for GMOD)
Literally all you have to do to avoid these servers is not log into them. That's all you have to do.
True but that is hard when you really want a ww2 rp server and all you see is nazi rp servers.
I think its more about trying to deplatform these people than anything else. Nazi = bad, therefore remove them, is the logic they go by.
Yeah but also fuck nazis
Indeed
They show up in my server browser and in kids playing good for first time. Your just wrong I can't avoid those cringe server titles
You need more Q&A videos like this where you hop around different servers!
I feel like if you removed them, then they would just go and do it in the normal servers.
Exactly and even if they do have to worry about getting banned they’ll make new accounts and find new servers to troll. It’s like nobody has watched snipping soup who trolls servers all the time and creates new accounts when he’s banned. It’s not solving the issue, it’s just prolonging the inevitable. But everyone has short attention spans so they’ll have short term solutions to lean on.
Modern problems require modern solutions
They probably would inevitably find new hosts and rebrand, Harry Potter RP has already gone that way, Unsurprising that these servers would as well, especially the bigger networks that run multiple servers.
The server owners can just ban them
“If we outlaw murder then these murderers will just try and murder people somewhere else, guess we better not outlaw murder then”
This is how this sounds
they are pretending to be safe and clean and friendly until papa newman stops watching
I've been on those servers, its literally just serious WWII roleplay, most if not all the trolls and weird people just get kicked
Honestly it's better to let the bad people expose themselves rather than force them into darkness. It's easier to identify them that way.
That reminds me of that scene in Inglorious Bastard where the main characters carved the nazi symbol on a forehead of one of the nazis.
@@derekpayneszubliminals7723 same general idea lol
My 40 alternative accounts and I are gonna give you a hell of a bad time
But no one is actioning on that info. Having them in the light just keeps them alive by allowing browser users to see and join
@@christianlane1047 Well somebody should start "actioning" on that info then.
13:14 A scene from a horror movie. That car slowly getting closer.
Pixelcat our embedded journalist.
Bringing us the latest in based, and cringe
"gary newman? more like gary jewman" ngl that cracked me up
"now, back to the smoothies..."
priorities in check
You need to do more investigative videos like this
The internet needs containment areas to keep these guys from bleeding into the general populace and keeping them happy.
As long as the servers aren't publicly listed in browser so new people join then it's not CONTAINEMENT it's LEAKING
Tumblr used to be a containment area
it's not a containment area I guarantee you their only activity is not playing gmod
I love the genuine interviews from the community on it, and how fresh the news was. Great content.
I think at the end of the day it's up to Garry to choose whether he wants Gmod to be associated with the Nazi roleplay servers or not. However, like the one dude said the Nazi roleplayers won't have anywhere else to go then they'll start joining other Gmod servers and that'll suck for everyone.
Except they won’t. They’ll have no place to roleplay this scenario. It’s stupid to say “we shouldn’t outlaw the bad things because it will make the bad thing happen more” because that isn’t true.
At the end of the day what did we see: maybe a brief spike of them being in other servers and then being gone for good
How am I supposed to reenact ww2
In real life
You showing up on the scprp server caused so much chaos, and I doubt you stuck around long enough to see it :D
Jaythegermanpotato is gonna be sad as thats the best place for content
lol
Nah he's actually pretty happy.
Here is the thing about NaziRP servers, you have to willingly connect to one, if you don't play on it it doesn't effect whatsoever, personally I don't think they should be taken down.
Counter argument...Nazis are retards. And retards shouldn't play video games. And so there for, nazis shouldn't be allowed to play video games. So naturally their servers have to go.
@@NeiasaurusCreationsBut that removed the containment they currently have.
Once the servers gone they will do the same nazi rp stuff on other more normal servers ruining them for the average players.
@@darth3911 Okay this is bad logic. People still do murders, so if we just get rid of murder laws in 1 state all the murderers will stay there and never travel ever in their life....
No, having these servers up literally ENCOURAGE this in the first place. That's why about 50% of the people there unironically do the rp. Its because its encourage by their friends, and these servers existing. Would racists still exist if you shut it down? Yeah probably. Just like they exist elsewhere. But its better to not encourage them, or give them special spaces to radicalize further. Nah, better to have them elsewhere where they can be mocked and bullied back into their senses and sanity.
Remember kids. Bully the racist hard, and often to avoid future racism. It worked on the germans. It'll work on your local racist/nazi rper. Make him your friend, but also make sure to bully him so much that he'll eventually realize he's being a tardy. That's how you convert them. By bringing them into your friends, and than bullying them anytime they do anything remotely racist. Thus reminding them being racists isn't the norm, its the exception. And that no one else likes that shit. They'll naturally start to come around on their own usually.
They are vile the freaks who play them are despicable and children become influenced
liberals are uncomfortable with the idea that somewhere there are people with other views, even though this does not concern them in any way
I miss the old People of Gaming 1942 rp servers. The admins were practically non-existent so moderation was entirely down to the players. This led to many hilarious scenarios. Its sad to say that so many of my happiest gmod memories were in that server
Exactly.
Even myself as an old ww2 typhoon staff member, there will always be work around for these types of RP. Been away from GmodRP for like I believe 3 years now, but I feel like it won't change anything. Communities like these are like cockroaches.
"But honestly I just like the fact he's taking away people's rights" absolutely based
i think its a bit more of a nuanced subject than people give it credit for. like i used to be active on a server called POG 1942rp and the whole idea of this server opposed to all these cringe serious rp servers is that it played like regular old dark rp. it wasnt deep roleplay like a serious rp or a rockford or something it was the whole idea that you can change your nickname or job name to whatever you can be voted in for different positions like normal dark rp not a shitty whitelist system. and the best part is that it was all about shitposts. we would just do stupid shit all the time. i remember multiple times making a secret society or a jew training camp where we would gather all the jews of the world and have like 25 people invade the reichstag. it was just a fun time. it seemed way different compared to literally any other ww2 rp server. but i think its also very irresponsible to actually censor people on a sandbox game. especially one thats not actually marketed towards children. idk im not a nazi and think being a nazi is wrong but thats not to say wrong people cant exist.
Just from looking at your video the guys who were actually on this server seemed pretty funny, I actually expected a lot more toxicity in your video but everyone seemed pretty normal but I do think maybe you just got lucky with your timing or something. I'm of the opinion of not caring either way, I don't think it will really do much if they get banned or not I just think the people who were on that server would move to a different place.
no, most of those servers are pretty serious historical roleplay, people just see the word nazi and make assumptions
It will help stifle growth of open nazi stuff so not nothing either way
@@The_gaming_gazimon lol what? Those are breeding grounds for hardcore nazis with power complex, there's no RP to be had there. Everyone who talked about "serious roleplay" turned out to be a nazi IRL, too. I'm half-Jewish IRL, but I RPed as a nazi on those servers just for lulz sake (I took a story of a Jewish dude who survived by joining the German army and fighting for them and decided to make a character like that), and each and every guy who I talked with OOC, on discord or some shit about my actual race cut ties with me. That's not RPing, that's fucking derangement.
the only good thing to ever come out of nazi rp is "rp_1944berlin" I believe the map maker has now removed all nazi imagery now but its honestly a very well made map, and I'm happy to see this shits gonna be gone but I worry that no containment has been breach they're going to migrate to other rp servers.
How ironic, today is Hitler's birthday too.
Happy birthday😊
May Allah bless him
@@nakedpear3558 Blud hitler is a kaffir
ww2 RP used to be a thing, German occupation, American and russian armies as another faction as rebels and local Mafias, It was decent because there was variety, these modern servers take it too far and they are seriously racist. They really power trip. They slowly changed the servers because they were tired of resistance gameplay, they just want to scrutinize and be racist with no challengers lol
I love that one nazi dude towards 12 minutes in
With an in-universe context, I like to imagine he's quickly changing sides so he can get away scottfree lol
Well those servers aren't really that weird, pretty much the same thing as a WWII game, they just play around reenacting WWII
I’m surprised this took until 2023 for them to do this.
True and facts
Because Gary doesn't really care and before 2023 people didn't really care.
If I had to imagine this started because Twitter Smooth Brains saw Bub-Gamings video on Nazi Servers and then started Harassing Gary into doing something about it. People that probably don't even play Gmod and have no idea that playing an SS member is fairly tamed when compared to some of the shit that goes on regularly in every Dark RP server.
You will be more surprised to know how few people moderating the whole gmod. The game itself not servers
It's dumb honestly I love being on those rp servers.
@@nicksmith-rz2dl It looks bad for a company in 2023 to be associated even with pretend Nazis. But... Gmod has an even bigger, more serious problem, Grooming.
Nothing is being done here to tackle that.
the 1942rp servers feel so depressing, even with the people not taking it seriously it gives off a depressing vibe and i would never even join it not even to troll it's just sad man
From what I’ve seen it’s mostly just guards standing around at the base *all day* doing nothing. In the videos you see (mainly jaythegernanpotato’s trolling vids) you don’t really see the actual Nazis going out and doing stuff much. Especially outside the city.
bro they trying to have their 4th reich in garry's mod... like... bro
13:10 that car slowly coming in tho
Garry doesn’t know what he’s freeing from the cage.
From past experiences on the 1942 to servers
I never ran in into any nazis like people who were legitimately nazis
But I think this new era of ww2 servers is filled with to many serious players.
There use to be another popular ww2 game mode back in 2014 that you can be German army or resistance and you could be bread makers, wine makers etc, more of a ww2 dark rp which was a lot more appropriate lmao
Yes, that was POG. Rest In Spaghetti. Never forgetti the Ping Pong incident.
Damn... There goes the best servers to mess with.
I don't even play it but that's just dumb.
You’re saying Nazi RP should stay?
@@exo_7536 I don't see why not. I get why people don't like it of course. But honestly, go into one of those servers, than go into one of the "normal" servers, there's really no difference.
And like it was said in another comment ironically they're probably less racist in those servers.
I don't really care if they ban them or not though, I don't really play Gmod anymore, just kinda boring to me now. It's Newman's game anyway, he'll decide what is and isn't allowed.
Thank you for actually being smart. Banning it wouldn't change the degeneracy of the game overall.
@@exo_7536 Yes.
I really hope the Nazi roleplayers don't spread to other servers once the gamemode is gone if it does get banned. They are just a sad breed
What do you think they'll do once it's banned?
@@liubei3058 hopefully touch grass
hopefully
I would hate to see that. But I wouldn't be suprised if they start spreading around.
Edit: Also in my opinion they might use the Ukraine situation like the AZOV Battalion for heavy propaganda.
@@dragutintheslav-veliki790 If you understand anything about religions, which if you THOROUGHLY study National Socialism, you'll come to find BANNING them only gives the more power. This Leftist Religion has been banned before, and last time it was, it took power in Germany.
They will probably but they would not spread thier nazi views because they will be banned
I just don't understand why Gary is trying to make this change. I mean, has he even touched the game in years? Not to mention that GMod isn't going to radicalize anyone into being a Nazi. But I mainly just find it weird because if you were to remove that from the game for "moral" reasons then why not remove the killing or anything else you can do in GMod? I feel as if targetting one spot specifically will leave every other group on GMod exposed. This will not end good for anybody.
On a slightly related note, I don't understand why people crash Nazi RP servers. Like, bro, it's called RP. Of course they're gonna get mad when you don't play along. Real Life Re-enactors exist too but would you call them nazis? I wouldn't so I don't understand how the same wouldn't apply to GMod unless the people running the Nazi servers were actually Nazis.
Ngl i kinda liked it when garry stopped giving a shit about gmod and let it run on its own for a while, dont like the idea of game modes being completely erased from the server browser. By "they have no reason to exist" logic, alot of game modes could be removed for being "toxic"
No game mode is being removed. Rp is allowed just no nazi themeing
All honestly i see this route they just make a full ww2 rp server to bypass the ban
@Minnesota Same lunge mine is fun as hell
That sounds legitimately fun. I don't really do multiplayer games but that kind of thing is tempting, in a way just straight up screwing with Nazis isn't.
The garry jewman guy should genuinenly think about a career in comedy he seems to be able to come up with new material on the spot
Right I disagree with banning the 1942 shits but people like u are why it's gettin banned
I'm guessing you enjoy these servers.
@Stevey The Ex-Eevee i can only see 2 of the 4 replies (prb because of my region) so i have no idea what youre talking about
@@ArgonUA-cam if you're not a normie and enjoying humor then why not?
@@ireallycant4416 What humor are you referring to?
I think it's probably worth keeping the servers up just for the fact that they're containment servers for people like that.
Time to make one, the timing seems perfect
You know what a trashcan is for, right? You put the trash in the trash can so that it doesn't litter the house. But when you remove the trashcan, there's trash everywhere and the house looks filthy.
"garry jewman" LMAO
My opinion. On one hand it’s amazing. On the other hand I’m losing one of my favorite pass times with friends, to go on 1942 rp and make the nazi’s lives miserable.
It’s truly incredible that you can’t distinguish a game from reality.
@@quagmoe7879 This, I doubt most the 1942RP players are nazis, just history nerds screwing around
@@quagmoe7879 It's truly incredible that you think simple trolling is "not being able to distinguish a game from reality"
It just find it funny to piss off kids and weirdos
@@Impostersussyballs That’s literally not the part of the comment I was referring too lmfao. I couldn’t care less that they’re being trolled. That’s objectively a funny thing. It’s that this guy is calling the people behind the keyboards “nazi’s” even though most people on 1942 aren’t even interested in the political side, or racism. They literally just want to screw around in a messed up RP situation. You can tell who is actually serious about it because they have the social skills of a North Korean labor camp guard. Most people on those servers didn’t do anything wrong, and there’s not really anything wrong with what they’re doing at all. Categorizing them all as “kids and weirdos” is sort of a dick move. I could say the same about lots of other RP servers.
1:00 Libertarian wanting to ban freedom of expression.
Bruh.
freedom to rp as a group of people who slaughter minorities, mmm yes
Americans are out there RPing in real life subscribing to political beliefs they don't even believe in. Their own system is pretty stupid too.
The argument of freedom of expression is quickly shut down once you realise PEOPLE VOTED FOR THE BANNING OF THOSE SERVERS, EXPRESSING THEIR RIGHT TO SPEECH, YOU IDIOT, YOU ABSOLUTE BUFFON
@BBerry yeah Hitler did pretty good job doing some "freedom of expression"
What dose libertarianism has to do with hating an race of people
That Goat gave one of the most beautiful statements in all of UA-cam's history and has entirely altered my outlook on life, cured my depression, and turned me from being incredibly horribly racist. Thank you Goat.
Here's the thing about Nazi servers.
Every server has people who take their roleplay very seriously, and when it happens to be on a Nazi server of course people are going to think they are actual Neo's.
Most people who play Berlin 1942 happen to like WW2 games, and WW2 history so we're different.
Also people need to take a step back, and realize the cringe is in the My Little Pony servers not Nazi Germany.
I am an actual national socialist, but to your surprise, I am actually a very nice guy who loves nature, who is kind to the elderly, who never stares at hot women and who respects all cultures...
Did you actually ever talk to a "Nazi" in real life?
Most people who meet with me think that I am an amazing person and that my only flaw is being too good for my own good...
@@damianoasteriti8530 If you're an actual National Socialist then you shouldn't be on UA-cam because UA-cam's founding CEO Susan Wojcicki is Jewish so you are technically supporting a Jew by logging onto her website.
I don't care, though I do know for a fact playing video games doesn't make people violent, racist, or criminals. Or watching movies about the actual historical events for that matter. And everyone should be allowed to do their own things as art is art. But on the other hand, we're in an age where people *think* actual Nazis are still forming hate malitias IRL and going around threatening lives...so if it makes those kind of lunnies feel "safer", then it's fair game.
Whether games make people violent or not is completely out of the question. We have absolutely no idea about how people truly are. What is clear is that there's people pretending to be Nazis with a questionable ambiguity of whether it's serious or not... Also, it's baffling that you mention historical documentaries since these AREN'T a game and are well, historical and informative. Also, what does 'art' even have to do with this?
Bubgames: ua-cam.com/video/oRKUeLuUBT0/v-deo.html
@@haarp9069 If you can't understand the relation from the above scenarios, then that's out of one's own ignorance. Don't blame me. Firstly, just because an actor is portraying a Nazi in a movie, does not mean they're an actual representation of those figureheads & ideals. Secondly just like books, and paintings, and statues, video games are art, just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should burn them/it. Ironically that's what fascists do, burn things that don't politically agree with them, no matter the degree. Third, just because someone is playing an FPS, doesn't mean they're an active shooter irl, the same logic can be applied here. The media tried pushing this same propaganda ages ago that gamers are violent because what they play. It's simply untrue. Fourth, just because one person from that RP does something bad for attention, doesn't mean the entire group is inherently bad. Assuming an entire group of people bad, just because one's actions is grossly ignorant. (which there hasn't even been any evidence) is illogical and prejudiced. Lastly, I'm not defending this sort of RP nor will I play it or care if it's deleted. However, going after people before you even know them rather than just letting them be is how you create hate/division. If you unironically want to create an actual Nazi, go ahead and do that, they'll use it as an excuse to perform larger atrocities/tantrums.
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It's like calling kids racists and trying to shame and attack them during a civil war reenactment... Utter nonsense. Or Reee'ing over the fact some old WW2 battlefield/FPS shooters have german factions, you know exactly what those are right? Shall we ban WW2 shooters/genres?
@@jackrabbit1704 First, comparing a professional industry with an established deontology to an open space where literally EVERYONE can be in is outrageous for me. Plus, you will never ever find a WW2 movie where the Nazi regime isn't displayed in a derogatory and conscious perspective.
Second, to assume that this is a matter of 'my' opinion is baffling to say the least. This isn't a matter of whether I like it or not, I simply think it shouldn't be allowed. Also, this isn't about me, it's about a collective choice proceeded in a VOTE where people can share their opinions. You don't care about this but you suddenly care about people having opinions on this?
Third, that's a false equivalence. Playing a game doesn't equate playing an active role. I also never said that this was about the 'people' in there and simply about the contents inside these servers. It's a matter of fact that while games don't define a person, they DO influence. Please don't go into a narrative of 'media propaganda' and try to slap it here; you'll look petty, to be honest.
Fourth, I once again never said that this was about a 'group' or a 'person'. I know these are convenient terms to go on an argument about how 'arbitrary and coercive' this vote is, but in fact the very same people who are there can literally cast their vote on this issue if they want to. People will still harass and prejudice; it's something that's gonna happen anyway. But what about the people who think these servers should be banned and where you're atributing "prejudice and ignorance"? Pretty sure that you should also get to know them.
Lastly, if you want to create hate/division, take your time and write a paragraph on a matter you have absolutely no care for and go on a rhetorical rambling on the 'inherent' consequences in something as simple as this. You'll look good, and you'll make them look bad. ;)
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No, they shouldn't be banned because none of these cases are about people pretending and actually getting into their roles. A Civil War reenactment is... A Civil War reenactment that's merely recreative...
And WW2 games with German factions aren't centralized on the NAZI ideals, dude. It's like, just like how your entire message went, you're just deliberately ignoring the fact that there's Allied factions... Suddenly it's also bad to play Allied factions because they also did bad stuff.
@@haarp9069 It's become apparent you're mistaking "false equivalencies" for your own inability to see logic and or reason. The professional industry has nothing to do with this(now that's a false equivalence as it brings in irrelevant quotas) especially considering history and its roleplay is everywhere in society. Just because someone puts on an evil role does not mean they're a bad person nor do they have to be a "professional" to obtain this status. I'm not going to socially dox the kids and or adults that play these games and lock them up as if they're actual Nazis. Without proof, they're not. Imagine playing a crooked cop, or a racist elf, and some woke egotist with opinions of yours coming in & judging/destroying them/their lives. Nonsense. Same with any other titles that has WW2 genres & evil Nazis as playable factions. FYI Stars Wars Empire of clones are literally space nazis.... They kill children, and commit genocide. Shall we ban them for their encompassment roleplay of bad evil reeee morals?
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Whether or not it gets taken down, I already stated I don't care. If you want to interject your personal opinion on people you don't even know, go ahead. Stir up the hornets nest I wont stop you. I'm also not going to join in because I don't hold prejudices against people I don't know like that. It's gold you want to call me petty when you're using prejudices against people you don't know to hate/judge & label them. If this isn't a matter of what you like or not(opinion), why are you, calling others petty, while trying to push an agenda void of the logic of reason for clicks. Hence your complete and utter lack of response & counter argument to the irony & past examples of this exact same setting.
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"And WW2 games with German factions aren't centralized on the NAZI ideals" Oh would you look at that, you've already counter argued your entire argument....and showed willingness to hold assumed prejudices. Congratulations, I believe this is what they call hypocrisy. If there were real tangiable hate groups coming out of the RP, there'd be evidence, but just like any other WW2 game with Nazi factions, then fine, take down that specific problem population. Child grooming & mental manipulation is not the same as RP. So if you wanna push your egotism, go ahead, delete the GAME servers> ban the specific trouble spots, whatever makes you feel safer at night. Labeling all, being prejudiced, attacking without knowing, burning history, creating hate-groups to do so, etc is not where i'll follow you.
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Lastly. I, Don't, Care. Your entire "counter" was null the second you failed to admit reality & direct logical comparisons, claiming every point was a "false equivalence" simply because your feelings didn't agree with it.
I used to greif and troll these foo's until I'd get perm bans and I am never going to be sorry.
I loved playing as a resistance gun dealer lol
Rustung dealer gamepass
Watching that car at the end slowly come into frame was so funny because you already know whats gonna happen
I think it's a slippery slope. What about other gamemodes? Are drugs bad? Guns? Karen RP? Gangs? Furry?
Where do we draw the line? I feel like it's not as simple as "nazi bad kthxbye"
Please look up the slippery slope fallacy
@@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel It doesn't necessarily have to be a fallacy. Sometimes the slippery slope is a legitimate concern.
@@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel I'm not saying it's a major catastrophe. I'm saying for almost 6000 days, the Gmod community has been able to police themselves pretty well.
Now Garry steps in. Then what?
Which gamemode or addon that we enjoy is next?
i love how you went to the core of it all and the only people there were the ones already sabotaging it lmao
I don’t agree with Nazis at all, but I believe everyone should have the rights to their beliefs, even if mainly looked down on, it’s only until it starts getting people hurt that it should be stopped
@alt f5 You can be a natsoc without being german, but I get it. I don’t know why people put emphasis on this though. I’m pretty sure it is illegal to role play as a nazi in Germany.
@@Randive I almost don't think you CAN be a NatSoc without being German or Germanic. They were EXTREMELY focused on 'The Blood'. EXTREMELY.
@@liubei3058 national socialism isn’t limited to white people moron
In translation: "I do not agree with those who insult my mom and talk about her like 13 year olds, but I am willing to let them talk because I do not believe in violence and only peace."
Congratulations bro, you just became a victim of school bullying.
@@MaksFaks-kl1zj No, that's not what he said.
I don't agree with half the people on that server, but this was ridiculous. The fact a server that could only offend people if they joined them got removed is just straight up censorship. Garry brought up his sons potentially running into the server when playing, and being worried about that, but as someone who grew up in the early internet who was exposed to all kinds of stuff, it really doesn't have that much of an effect on you.
I don't know...
I can see both sides in the argument.
On one hand it doesn't look good for a modern company to be associated with Nazis, but on the other hand this is like pretending WW2 never happened.
I find people that like to play Nazi ironically less Cringe than the people that rage like a bitch in heat over people that want to play Nazis. I view it the same way I do shooters. Just because someone wants to play as an SS member doesn't mean they're going to march off to Ukraine and join Azov Brigade. The rationale that "Allowing people to roleplay as them may lead to more of them" is about as flawed as when Hillary Clinton said "Shooting Demons in Doom or Killing martial artist in Mortal Kombat will lead to increased Violent Crime."
It's like how Civilization had let their players play Mao and Stalin, but Hitler is banned and the Civil-War just plain doesn't exist for the American Faction.
But hey, at least Gmod lets you talk about it. In Civ even mentioning the SS or General Lee is enough to get your banned from the forums.
@@legend234567 Truth
@@legend234567 Also, another counter argument.... Nazis are retarded. Retards shouldn't be allowed to play video games, or get onto the internet. So therefor nazis shouldn't be allowed on the internet or to play video games. Naturally their servers have to be deleted to encourage them to leave.
@@legend234567 I don't agree with that alarmist mentality at all. Communism came back in America because society at large stopped talking about it. In that vacuum the more heinous aspects of the political ideology were essentially forgotten, giving sympathizer the means to wash it of all it's short-comings. Kids aren't aware that Mass-Starvation numbering in the 10's of millions always accompany a Communist regime, They don't know about the abuse power that would make even Caligula second guess himself and the have no idea about the rampant cannibalism.
Whether people want to admit it or not, WW2 happened. The Nazis did exist. Ignoring it ever even happened only allows smooth brains on twitter to call everything they dislike a Nazi and everyone they hate some version of Hitler.
Completely watering down the name and the actions of the party.
I like Postal, I think it's one of the best shooters ever made. But, I don't have any interest to go on random killing sprees.
If the mob is so outraged by it, age restrict the servers. That should have already been the case with all online, multiplayer games. 13 is way too low an age.
@@legend234567 It's also glossing over the true elephant in the room: Gmod's rampant Grooming problem which was the true crux of Bub's Video.
I fail to see how a bunch of people pretending to be nazis in a nazi server is somehow worse than the kids that run up to adult players and make sexual advances to them.
It's a very strange hill Garry has chose to fight on.
I'd be more bothered by Diddlers using my software then I would Nazi larpers. But, if Garry did the responsible thing and just banned children from playing the game that would hurt sales more than I think most people are aware of and we can't have that.
@@Vaniity_Velvet I don't think it's that strange of a hill. It's not like there are dedicated pedophile servers. Pedophiles are likely to be around anywhere that adults and kids play together in real time, the only thing that can really be done is individually removing them.
However, whilst I see the purpose of these servers, people enjoy military RP, and some people are interested in WW2 era specifically, it's essentially a place that legitimate Nazis can congregate, groom people into becoming legitimate Nazis, including kids, and all under the guise of "it's just roleplay".
"Good Decision" "now back to the smoothies"
How are these servers bad again?
Literally no one is explaining why these servers should be taken down.
Because "muh internet swastika"?
You can't be serious..
Honestly, the reason why they are getting banned is that they act as a hub for raiding other servers. Think about it for a second, what kind of people does this edgy aesthetic of these servers attract? Think about them as late 2016 to 2017 Leafy's fanbase, which even if it is contained within itself had been responsible for raids on other channels due to toxicity they spread.
And this does not go over the fact that whatever or not the people there are actually hateful. That's not the point. The point is that this edgy aesthetic of those servers inevitably attracts the very those who want to ruin fun for everyone by using those servers as a hub to attract others so they can organize raids on other servers. Like why do you think most raids on GMod is followed by the spams of swastika and repetition of racial slurs? And that ruins for everyone, as really those servers which those people dwell on is not really that fun at all, which just cements the point that they act as a hub, not for the actual or genuinely funny RP.
Well lets be honest, asking gmod players is kind of dumb because most of them are just edgy and think they're funny so asking any real question you wont get a straight answer but a good video explaining why 1942 RP is bad is this one by Bubgames: ua-cam.com/video/oRKUeLuUBT0/v-deo.html but in my opinion banning the servers is a good thing.
@@somekidkekasuars7881 The guy goes about insulting other people in video games (le epic troll), he's not exactly in the position to be calling out toxicity in a server. When I played 1942 RP years ago it was fun, none of the people I played with were actual nazis. Perhaps now it's changed a bit but it's not like there aren't people in every other Gmod server saying the word "n!gger." To me it seems like something Gary wanted to do for brownie points on the internet. There are more pertinent issues that Gary/Facepunch choose to ignore. But it's not as easy as wiping a bunch of roleplay servers and getting a pat on the back from twitter for virtue signalling.
@@LegalizeTheNuclearBomb thats crazy. im not reading any of it lol 💀💀💀
And at first I thought it was normal RP... and I joined their discord... to see the news of a server and uh... how to say...
They're deranged to the hilt
Garry made a deal with the owner of the biggest server and the gamemode is staying. How topical.
Let’s hop the not break the deal or Garry will kick the owners butts.
Really? Where can I see this?
this prevents me from being mayor and creating dictatorships of the same title and carrying out purges
A great thing to happen to gmod
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0/10, not enough maxwell
Idk, you make a lot of videos about those servers and you seem to have fun there, but hey, I guess negativity sells.
Didnt expect to see you here
I'm just worried that these servers will move to other categories like DarkRP/Police RP etc. There needs to be some kind of report system that can't be abused otherwise these servers will be harder to avoid for people.
DAMN BRO, I ENJOYED RDMING SM ON THESE
anyways, these videos are a good idea i really enjoy them pixelcat
I agree with you
In all honesty, banning these servers, while seemingly cathartic, will not change anyone. It seems most players were joking anyway, but the hardcore types will still exist, still being who they are. These servers were their little weird corner of the internet to be the people they want to be in a digital, contained environment. Now they will either spend more time in niche forums or in other ways digging deeper into the internet to fulfill whatever they want, and whatever that leads to could be *far* worse then video game RP
Banning Nazi rp? Let’s go
It’s really cool to see a new kind of video for your channel! Kinda reminds me of how Bub games has started doing investigative videos too
Bub games provokes adminis into looking for a reason to ban him, then records "power fantasy bans" for content and people eat it up its sad.
It shouldn't be removed
I understand that all Soviet RP servers will be banned as well?
POV: Pixelcat notices Bubgames is making good content from trolling to a journalist so he does a topic that has already been investigated but chooses to just ask random people which isn’t a source…
Pov: You're dick riding, like dude can make content however tf he wants
hes asking people's opinions what source does he need to supply lmao
Oh no, he's asking the GARRY'S MOD community's opinions, not the pesky 'twitter opinions'...
Definitely not a bias (or deliberate bias for that matter) at all.
“I didn’t say cruel I said that’s COOL … C O O L L E” 🤣
It's great that its getting removed.. though i worry for the people who might come to other rp servers...
Gmod has a special kind of community
Won't they just make another under some other name or something
Lil bro taking the US army roleplay a little too serious BAHAHAH "Again..... PTS is active!!!!🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓"
"Garry Newman, Garry Jewman"
this vid perfectly demonstrates the creative ability of most gmod fans to articulate themselves
The players in that server are no different than the players in all the other servers, heck, they might actually be ironically less racist, etc. This is just dumb really.
no they really arent
they constantly spam racist stuff in OOC (out of character)
so this seriously is how they are
@@soupmaestro show prof of your accusations. Other wise your opinion is only that. No facts.
@@sirrabbitthered8496 ua-cam.com/video/Okuguz_9YfA/v-deo.html bub games trolls nazi servers, in a few of his videos u can clearly see racist stuffed being spammed in ooc chat XD its actually really not hard to find prof of accusations of nazi servers.
@@sirrabbitthered8496 i've personally trolled on a few and my god when they are pissed they will say the most fucked up shit in the chat box that is out of character
@@warcriminal121 your name is War Criminal and you trolled a Nazi RP server? Dude you are metal. Your word isn't prof though. If you make an accusation you have to have a recording of some kind or screen shot. That makes it more believable.
I used to play on one of those servers, half my time as a resistance dude doing like little ambushes on ss patrols and the other half as a police dude chasing mobsters and running after pretend rabbis. It was pretty fun and the people that don't take it THAT serious on those servers are an absolute joy to chill with BUT there's a serious amount of terminally online neckbeards/15 year olds on a powertrip on those servers that need to be bullied more. After a while the shock value of it wears of and I realized I was just playing military RP with swastikas. But overall I've always had a pretty fun time and its kinda sad to see a niche little thing like that go. But it is what it is at the end of the day.
Go ahead and destroy their containment server.
It'll be about as good as taking a sledge hammer to a rusty above-ground septic tank.
With all sincerity, the best way to deal with people like that -- and this goes for any group anybody disagrees with -- is to just let them be. As long as they're not doing anything actually bad, like irl crimes where actual people actually suffer, it's fine.
If you don't believe violent video games make people violent, you shouldn't believe bad RP makes someone a bad person irl.
As l0ng as they aren't listed on th3 sever browser then they aren't b3ing contained just allow3d to fester and grow that's not containment
@@christianlane1047 Festering in their own space is containment.
People going there because it's fun to troll and run over people with those spiffy looking cars isn't growth.
Our favourite trolling spot is gone ;(
What I miss is consistency. If you ban Nazi RP, you have to ban Comunist RP, or Pinochet RP ( just to have a "neutral" authoritarian system) too.
Now, I don't play GarysMod, but I get that some people aren't their because they're actually Nazis/Communists/Pinochetists, but just want to be placed into a specific historical scenario, because I can be prety autistic as well. Even though of course therr are going to be people like these on the specific servers.
This is both a good and bad thing. The good part is that they'll be gone. The bad thing is that they will start migrating to DarkRP and stuff.
why does he have to get rid of them i can't bully them any more
I'm gonna miss the videos of people building synagogues in these servers to piss the staff off
We get cars and do shit like that! Now thats something I would do in there lol
Bruh banning shit just makes those people seep into the normal servers and cause havoc.