I’m looking forward to Aaron’s lithium set up in my 2020 when my AGMs die, especially since my batteries got down to 7v the other day and were unusable.
Aaron Silidker not until the current batteries die. That’ll probably be 2023.. they’re running great again once they were charged back up (plus a few other things need to happen before I have more $$$$ for this 😁)
We leave full in the van. Amazing video watching this video I really feel so sad about my van me and my wife hired someone to convert my 2019 sprinter from San Diego took all of our money not being happy the way they built my van and now we are suffering specially in our power and water supplies lots things to say about your video thank you sir
Grwat van Love the new front seats and the sink cover/cutting board. You may want to check what James from " The Fit Rv" channel did to the kitchen of his Winnebago Ekko. He swapped the location of the cooktop and the sink. The cooktop is a portable one and added a expandable/hidden counter top plus a drawer for the cooktop. Much more usable counter before the actual cooking. What about 3 Lithionic batteries? It will be cheaper and you will have 945 AH vs 630 AmpHr
Very informative video. Thank you! I like the German seat and yes it's the same theory for road cyclists. You want a firm minimalist seat for long bike rides not a fat cushy seat.
Great video! Maybe do one of your van out off roaring and camping. Putting all your mods to the test. Love owl products. Hoping to buy some once I'm stateside.
Liked the things you modified in your Revel. You’re right, wish it is an open space. Probably can get away without the shower, just the cassette toilet for basic needs. Nice off road modifications + bringing the weight down.
Hi John…. Thanks again for the great video. Aaron’s Roamrig lithium battery pack system setup is really sweet! I don’t however you mentioned that the batteries are 48volts and that’s why the wiring gauges can be narrower also that this particular setup is designed for Revels 2020 and older. I don’t like the anchor points of the rear passenger seatbelts on all Revel models and unlike the Storyteller’s GrooveLounge seats it is not pull tested and besides Winnebago is using very thin plywood to frame out the seat bottoms….. not a good place to be in an accident! John can you please do a comparison between Aaron’s Roamrig and the Volta system?
Think it's important to note that on the 2021 models they have an upgraded Lithium electrical system stock, and apparently the RoamRig guys are working on a new kit. Should be nice I'm sure.
The lithium is still in the back of the van so there will have to be wires running to the front. IMO you're better off with a 2020 Revel with an upgraded system then a 2021. You end up less expensive, better batter system, lighter, and bigger garage area
superb looking vehicle... i was wondering if you have international shipping from your website? & also the carbon surrounds on the dash... do you know where this comes from? i have a 2020 316 currently on it way to me in Australia :)
He Jason, thank you for the kind words. We do not currently have international shipping but you can arrange a freight forwarder that can take the good from us and deliver to you. We are too small and too busy to deal with all the paperwork for international shipping internally.
Hi there, Currently I have a 2023 Winnebago Revel, originally it came with 320A Li3 battery, can I purchase another same battery to connect it in parallel, and become 640A? Will it mess up the whole system or will cause any damage? Please let me know. Many thanks! Xiang
The only thing I dont like about lithium is the fact that they have to be stored inside the cabin where the space is already limited (to protect from the extreme cold) while with AGM they are stored outside under the car.
Hi guess the right question for you Guys , i do own a Sprinter high output 2022 170 now converted, here in Europe those van come with stock 23565r16 and rear axle ratio 3.923 is that the same overthere ?? I switch to bfg 245 75r16 and damn van isn't anymore fast at acceleration like it use to be with stock tire ...am asking cause in your country come with 245 stock doesn't matter if 4x4 or 2wd ,my is a 315 ...no chip or tune ...thats why i wonder what is the rear axle ratio and maybe what i could do to gain more acceleration....best regards and many thanks
###. WHOA, THERE, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY HANDY. OH BOY...WOW., I DON'T BELIEVE THIS..IF I DIDN'T SEE IT. I WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED IT. ... ## READY MADE 🏠 HOUSE /HOME..WHAT'S THE PRICE.!!??.. PLEASE!?.
Does the RoamRig system still utilize the solar panels? If you mentioned it, sorry I didn't catch it. Also didn't catch it on his youtube video. Great system! Seems a lot more complete than other offerings I have seen...and a lot more $$ too.
Yes, the system uses solar panels to charge. On the system we have the solar is the only charging method. Some other bigger system have solar and alternator charging
Hey I noticed the little armrest pad on the door panel you installed. We’ve been looking for a solution like that. Which kind did you get and would you recommended it?
If so in need of air conditioning why not just turn on the sprinter ac and have the car on for a few hours. Isn’t that what truckers do when on the road ?
Hi, can you please tell me if you added the wrapping on the plastics by the mbux or it came like that? It’s awesome and I’d like to do the same to my 2019. Thank you!
Hey John. I have been looking at the Revel but not real impressed with the "off the line" quality of build -vs- price. So, I am looking at buying a Sprinter and converting it myself. I would entertain working with you on a build and def on using your products. Have you guys considered doing conversion builds or partnering with somebody that does? Nice work on this rig BTW. Very Cool.
John, how much did that upgrade cost? Yes the Revel off the lot is a great value, but when you start making the changes you've made to yours what would you estimate the new cost to be? I'm putting 400ah of lithium in my 2019 sprinter and its going to cost approx $10k and that's without all the nice monitoring panels, etc.
When is Owl going to build their own version of the Revel? I call the Owl Rival. The Winnebago Revel is way overpriced for the low quality of workmanship, parts and performance. Many are completely upgrading the entire crappy electrical systems, replace the “ugly” low quality coach seat with one from Europe that has head rest 3 pt seat belts, add insulation and larger water tank and Froli system under bed mattress.
Absolutely. I don't understand why people are buying Revels and then doing all this upgrading to it. Just buy a sprinter and get it converted to what you want right in the beginning. In the end, it will save you money and you will get what you want right at the start.
Can you tell me the model of that seat ? I drove mine from Texas where I bought my camper van ( 92 Ford Coach House ) to Cali. The seats are terrible and I’m in the market. Thank you
The Owl Ultimate Revel would so cool if you got enough of the front seat fabric to redo the bench seat cushions to match the front seats. 👏👏👏👏 awesome videos, keep them coming. Saving my money for your gear.
@@owloffroad do you guys have a date on when your planning on releasing them? We are going to be putting in an order for some stuff with you guys hopefully next week.
I hate small sinks like that one. Sinks should b large enough to fit a 22 lb. dog inside sink. Yes one needs a shower in van. Shower is more important than a cooking surface. U can eat cold veggies /fruits. But not go without a shower. Many places do not have a shower. And all showers in vans should be recirculating water.
Latest Revel van price $185,000. My estimate for a new lithium battery install is about $20,000. You’re at about $200,000 for basically a small van without a proper shower and toilet. This van is for a small segment of people that want to Boondock and have continuous power miles from any major highway. God bless you guys with all the money you pour to these vans. I have no idea what the resale of these vans will be in eight years. But somebody is going to get a great deal even if they have to install a new engine. That will be cheap compared to everything spent on this van. I’m looking at a Thor Tellaro KT It has a rear bathroom with a wet shower It’s one of the largest shower areas you could have a small van. If I purchase one it’ll probably be in Texas where they are about $15,000 less than they are in California. In Texas they are selling them for 79,000. Here in California they’re about 95,000.
You're 100% right that these are not inexpensive vans. That said the supply chain on MB Sprinters is VERY tight because of COVID and the new vans not passing emissions. This van was about 60% of what they are going for now. Therefore this van could very likely be sold for a profit even used. Additionally, our first van a 2010 Sprinter, was used for 10 years and sold for $5k less than we purchased it for. That is purely anecdotal evidence and says nothing about that the market will be in 5-10 years but thus far, vans have held their value. I believe it is a changing of the RV industry and their expense is due to their quality.
@@owloffroad I’m sure you upgraded it, so selling it for less than 5000 then you bought it for is up for interpretation. I’m all about solar power and batteries. The battery power swap you did I’m sure will run all your equipment for days. It will let your air-conditioning run all night if there is enough battery. .
Hey Jason from @themendotaranch / rotor recoil said to stop making Instagram commercials and get his tire rack/latter out to him. He’s been waiting for a hot minute.
The new 2021 REVEL had some significant changes, How does it compare to the Owl mods ? What does it still lack. A comparison would be great. 2021 REVEL video ua-cam.com/video/xP_inv__IX0/v-deo.html
This looks great. You should get a job working for Winnebago and teach them how to make ultimate revels. I'd like to see an off road version of the longer sprinter so you can get a little more room inside for a bigger bed and maybe a little bit bigger bathroom for fatties like me
Oh, man! I want that Revel! That's exactly what I have been looking for to do our next cross-country adventure.
I’m looking forward to Aaron’s lithium set up in my 2020 when my AGMs die, especially since my batteries got down to 7v the other day and were unusable.
Aaron Silidker not until the current batteries die. That’ll probably be 2023.. they’re running great again once they were charged back up (plus a few other things need to happen before I have more $$$$ for this 😁)
That seat looks so darned comfortable. .
Owl should make there own vans... If i had to chose between revel and owl builds,,,, hands down owl...
We leave full in the van. Amazing video watching this video I really feel so sad about my van me and my wife hired someone to convert my 2019 sprinter from San Diego took all of our money not being happy the way they built my van and now we are suffering specially in our power and water supplies lots things to say about your video thank you sir
Grwat van
Love the new front seats and the sink cover/cutting board.
You may want to check what James from " The Fit Rv" channel did to the kitchen of his Winnebago Ekko. He swapped the location of the cooktop and the sink. The cooktop is a portable one and added a expandable/hidden counter top plus a drawer for the cooktop. Much more usable counter before the actual cooking.
What about 3 Lithionic batteries?
It will be cheaper and you will have 945 AH vs 630 AmpHr
Very informative video. Thank you! I like the German seat and yes it's the same theory for road cyclists. You want a firm minimalist seat for long bike rides not a fat cushy seat.
Your 100% on firmer seats broski.
Just because of this video I'm thinking of buying a revel
Winnie Co listened and integrated a clean lithium system for the 2021s!!!
Lithium is KING!!!
Great video! Maybe do one of your van out off roaring and camping. Putting all your mods to the test. Love owl products. Hoping to buy some once I'm stateside.
Liked the things you modified in your Revel.
You’re right, wish it is an open space. Probably can get away without the shower, just the cassette toilet for basic needs.
Nice off road modifications + bringing the weight down.
how much a built like this costs?
That's an awesome looking van..way to go !!!!!.
I'm going to watch THIS again
This is really,really,REALLY, .. AWESOME...you got my attention totally from beginning to end.thank you.
Hi John…. Thanks again for the great video. Aaron’s Roamrig lithium battery pack system setup is really sweet! I don’t however you mentioned that the batteries are 48volts and that’s why the wiring gauges can be narrower also that this particular setup is designed for Revels 2020 and older.
I don’t like the anchor points of the rear passenger seatbelts on all Revel models and unlike the Storyteller’s GrooveLounge seats it is not pull tested and besides Winnebago is using very thin plywood to frame out the seat bottoms….. not a good place to be in an accident!
John can you please do a comparison between Aaron’s Roamrig and the Volta system?
Great one! btw I would like to know more information about the lift bed, where I can buy it? Thank you.
Great video, Iam interested in what we are looking at as far as cost for same setup thanks in advance John
Beautiful power setup!
Great video! Just beginning to look at vans, so I appreciate the walk-throughs you are doing!
Think it's important to note that on the 2021 models they have an upgraded Lithium electrical system stock, and apparently the RoamRig guys are working on a new kit. Should be nice I'm sure.
Fantastic van well done chap
Fantastic Video, thank some much, its help me a lot because i got a personal proyect 💪👍😄
Yay you got your seats installed
I imagine the wiring Winnebago uses is substantially less on the 2021 model now that there are lithium batteries inside. Correct?
The lithium is still in the back of the van so there will have to be wires running to the front. IMO you're better off with a 2020 Revel with an upgraded system then a 2021. You end up less expensive, better batter system, lighter, and bigger garage area
@@owloffroad Thank you, I needed to hear that! 👍🏻
Hey John great video. I am getting an aux fuel and this will be the next project. Is your system the 10 k system?
Our system was a beta so I am not sure the cost but I believe it is the basic system
Hey, thanks for your really helpful videos.
Joe, in a world of trolls, seeing some kind words is very motivating. Thanks so much!
How much do LED boards cost, is it possible for means of transport to buy from friends?
Hello John
superb looking vehicle... i was wondering if you have international shipping from your website?
& also the carbon surrounds on the dash... do you know where this comes from?
i have a 2020 316 currently on it way to me in Australia :)
He Jason, thank you for the kind words. We do not currently have international shipping but you can arrange a freight forwarder that can take the good from us and deliver to you. We are too small and too busy to deal with all the paperwork for international shipping internally.
Hi there,
Currently I have a 2023 Winnebago Revel, originally it came with 320A Li3 battery, can I purchase another same battery to connect it in parallel, and become 640A? Will it mess up the whole system or will cause any damage? Please let me know.
Many thanks!
Xiang
Love it👍😎
Super clean 👌 👏
Where does the arm bolster on the drivers door come from?
Canyon Adventure Van
If I bought a sheet 4x4 sprinter, could you make me your ideal Revel RV?
We actually don’t build whole vans, just carriers etc
I have a 170 wheelbase rwd. Can it still be a overlanding vehicle with proper tires.
Sure, can’t go everywhere a 4x4 can go but still very capable
Nice van - What kind of elbow rest/pad is that on the driver side door?
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@@owloffroad Thanks - How much weight did you save with the new battery/cabling/inverter system.
The only thing I dont like about lithium is the fact that they have to be stored inside the cabin where the space is already limited (to protect from the extreme cold) while with AGM they are stored outside under the car.
Can this lithium package be added to the 2022 Revel to extend the power..? Whats the price range?
Yes, you will want to reach out to Aaron at RoamRig. He does the power systems
Awesome awesome👍
Hi guess the right question for you Guys , i do own a Sprinter high output 2022 170 now converted, here in Europe those van come with stock 23565r16 and rear axle ratio 3.923 is that the same overthere ?? I switch to bfg 245 75r16 and damn van isn't anymore fast at acceleration like it use to be with stock tire ...am asking cause in your country come with 245 stock doesn't matter if 4x4 or 2wd ,my is a 315 ...no chip or tune ...thats why i wonder what is the rear axle ratio and maybe what i could do to gain more acceleration....best regards and many thanks
Is that enough power to run an AC in 3digit temperature for few hours?
Yes it is
God loves you
Sounds like Jawa from Star Wars
Jawas are the ultimate van builders
###. WHOA, THERE, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY HANDY. OH BOY...WOW., I DON'T BELIEVE THIS..IF I DIDN'T SEE IT. I WOULDN'T HAVE BELIEVED IT. ... ## READY MADE 🏠 HOUSE /HOME..WHAT'S THE PRICE.!!??.. PLEASE!?.
Literally in love with this van! It just keeps getting better and better!! Also do you sell those baseball caps? Keep up the great videos!
Haha I found the hats!
Great content 🤙🏼💥
Can you link the rack and hooks in the galley below the towel holder?
What the time code on the video, not sure what item you're referring to?
@@owloffroad 9:45, on the wall next to the paper towel holder
@@gregmiller6353 Ahh, honest, I don't remember, I think it was just a stainless steel coat rack from Amazon or Container store
Will you guys be having a Revel package that you can do in the Revel if we want to change out the battery or lifted Revel
Is that 144 or 170
Really looks the business love the bumper
Thank you! It’s a 144”
Does the RoamRig system still utilize the solar panels? If you mentioned it, sorry I didn't catch it. Also didn't catch it on his youtube video. Great system! Seems a lot more complete than other offerings I have seen...and a lot more $$ too.
Yes, the system uses solar panels to charge. On the system we have the solar is the only charging method. Some other bigger system have solar and alternator charging
Is that seat a traveler or touring seat?
Scheel Mann Varios
Where is the storage for cloths and food and cutlery?.
Many people add storage systems to the back garage. There are also storage shelves for the shower that I don’t use
Hey I noticed the little armrest pad on the door panel you installed. We’ve been looking for a solution like that. Which kind did you get and would you recommended it?
Canyon Adventure Vans has one that’s very nice
I may have missed it in the video, but how do we get in touch with this Aaron from CT?
His company is Roam Rig
Hi John, Excellent work.
Can you tell me where you purchased the driver's seat?
www.owlvans.com/accessories/scheel-mann-seat-for
If so in need of air conditioning why not just turn on the sprinter ac and have the car on for a few hours. Isn’t that what truckers do when on the road ?
Yes, that works but some people want AC overnight. It’s not good for the Sprinter motors to idle all night.
You can recover probably $100.00 of your cost by selling the copper in that pile!
If you think your solar kicks but go look at Advanced Rv there solar in the 1000s
Excellent ! Thanks.
Hi, can you please tell me if you added the wrapping on the plastics by the mbux or it came like that? It’s awesome and I’d like to do the same to my 2019. Thank you!
We sprayed it. We have some DIY videos on our channel of how to do it
Awesome video so much info!!!! Thanks!! Did you change out the nerf bars? If so what ones are on your van now? Thanks!!!
Thank you! We were working on some new nerfs but they aren’t finished yet
Hey John. I have been looking at the Revel but not real impressed with the "off the line" quality of build -vs- price. So, I am looking at buying a Sprinter and converting it myself. I would entertain working with you on a build and def on using your products. Have you guys considered doing conversion builds or partnering with somebody that does? Nice work on this rig BTW. Very Cool.
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John, how much did that upgrade cost? Yes the Revel off the lot is a great value, but when you start making the changes you've made to yours what would you estimate the new cost to be? I'm putting 400ah of lithium in my 2019 sprinter and its going to cost approx $10k and that's without all the nice monitoring panels, etc.
Is the solar system still useful on the revel then?
Very much so. With lots of batteries comes the need for increased solar
Great, thanks for the reply, this is definitely going to happen for my 2020 Revel!
Single man home worth £120k I could live easily in that can I get it in the UK ?
That was a good video.
Wait so why did he remove the inverter? It was a pure sine wave inverter to give you AC power. Nothing wrong with it.
You would have to reach out to Aaron for specifics but my guess is he replaces it with a higher quality unit.
@Aaron Silidker impressive solor work. way beyond what 2021 revel. What your contact info?
Aaron Silidker
What is the cost to convert to lithium?
When is Owl going to build their own version of the Revel? I call the Owl Rival.
The Winnebago Revel is way overpriced for the low quality of workmanship, parts and performance.
Many are completely upgrading the entire crappy electrical systems, replace the “ugly” low quality coach seat with one from Europe that has head rest 3 pt seat belts, add insulation and larger water tank and Froli system under bed mattress.
Absolutely. I don't understand why people are buying Revels and then doing all this upgrading to it. Just buy a sprinter and get it converted to what you want right in the beginning. In the end, it will save you money and you will get what you want right at the start.
So, I spend 175,000 for a factory revel and do the upgrades you have done on this video. What Is the ball park total ill be In for?
This van is probably about $200k
hi, may you can post some detail information about your remote light switch at 7:55? many thanks
It is a Trigger 6-Shooter
Can you tell me the model of that seat ? I drove mine from Texas where I bought my camper van ( 92 Ford Coach House ) to Cali. The seats are terrible and I’m in the market. Thank you
Those are the Vario XXL F!
The Owl Ultimate Revel would so cool if you got enough of the front seat fabric to redo the bench seat cushions to match the front seats. 👏👏👏👏 awesome videos, keep them coming. Saving my money for your gear.
Can you add the link for that wireless switch panel?
TRIGGER 3001 Six Shooter Accessory Control System www.amazon.com/dp/B07CN3XZ8Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vE5eFb38HVAAR
Could someone add everything like this van but on a 170??
yes
@@owloffroad Rumor is that Winnebago will make a 170 for 2022. Have you heard anything? That would solve the too narrow 46" bed issue.
You didn’t tell us the cost
What would the average price be to get lithium in my Revel?
I wouldn’t know an average price but this system is about $10k
@James Matthews Only the newest 2021 models that are just being released now. All the Revels currently on the road have AGMs
How much did it cost you to change the battery system?
The system we have retails for about $11k
Would it work with my 70X ERA?
@@owloffroad do you have a link for the installer?
Johnny C It’s in the description.
What side steps are on your van? Love those
Those were a prototype we made. We are going to have side-step/nerf bars soon.
@@owloffroad do you guys have a date on when your planning on releasing them? We are going to be putting in an order for some stuff with you guys hopefully next week.
@@kirillevdokimov7647 probably a few months yet
Awesome vid! Maybe when we pick up our 2021 Revel we can do a collab!
Sure just shoot me an email when you get your van.
@@owloffroad qq
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A trick : watch movies at Flixzone. I've been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Roman Kaiden definitely, have been using flixzone} for since november myself :)
How the hell do you sleep 2 in that bed? 46" wide? when the doors are closed it is a narrow cave.
With the flares, it is not that bad. The only issue is the person near the back has to climb over if they want to use the bathroom.
We are very comfy even with 40 pound pooch. Got a nice topper to
playing the time-lapse at .5 speed lol
I hate small sinks like that one. Sinks should b large enough to fit a 22 lb. dog inside sink.
Yes one needs a shower in van. Shower is more important than a cooking surface. U can eat cold veggies /fruits. But not go without a shower. Many places do not have a shower. And all showers in vans should be recirculating water.
How much for the entire build?
2021 Revel Van from Winnebago $185,000.
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10:49 can we see the home movies?😜...
Be ready to shell out over 100k for a van THATS A FUCKING HOUSE !!!
Do you even notice your kidneys missing? Lol
Nobody needs those right? :)
@@owloffroad haha nope!
Having the lithium batteries inside also keeps some meth addict from stealing your $900 battery if you use the old AGM mounting box.
Take that tweakers...
Latest Revel van price $185,000. My estimate for a new lithium battery install is about $20,000. You’re at about $200,000 for basically a small van without a proper shower and toilet.
This van is for a small segment of people that want to Boondock and have continuous power miles from any major highway. God bless you guys with all the money you pour to these vans.
I have no idea what the resale of these vans will be in eight years. But somebody is going to get a great deal even if they have to install a new engine. That will be cheap compared to everything spent on this van.
I’m looking at a Thor Tellaro KT It has a rear bathroom with a wet shower It’s one of the largest shower areas you could have a small van. If I purchase one it’ll probably be in Texas where they are about $15,000 less than they are in California. In Texas they are selling them for 79,000. Here in California they’re about 95,000.
You're 100% right that these are not inexpensive vans. That said the supply chain on MB Sprinters is VERY tight because of COVID and the new vans not passing emissions. This van was about 60% of what they are going for now. Therefore this van could very likely be sold for a profit even used. Additionally, our first van a 2010 Sprinter, was used for 10 years and sold for $5k less than we purchased it for. That is purely anecdotal evidence and says nothing about that the market will be in 5-10 years but thus far, vans have held their value. I believe it is a changing of the RV industry and their expense is due to their quality.
@@owloffroad I’m sure you upgraded it, so selling it for less than 5000 then you bought it for is up for interpretation.
I’m all about solar power and batteries. The battery power swap you did I’m sure will run all your equipment for days. It will let your air-conditioning run all night if there is enough battery.
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Hey Jason from @themendotaranch / rotor recoil said to stop making Instagram commercials and get his tire rack/latter out to him. He’s been waiting for a hot minute.
Ladder was shipped June 15th. So he has had it for a hot minute.
500 pounds of weight removed.
The new 2021 REVEL had some significant changes, How does it compare to the Owl mods ? What does it still lack. A comparison would be great.
2021 REVEL video
ua-cam.com/video/xP_inv__IX0/v-deo.html
This looks great. You should get a job working for Winnebago and teach them how to make ultimate revels. I'd like to see an off road version of the longer sprinter so you can get a little more room inside for a bigger bed and maybe a little bit bigger bathroom for fatties like me
I would love to see some more badass 170” 4x4 Sprinters
All warranties voided.
Yes, warranties voided on the part that are no longer in the vehicle
That’s a lot of money in copper. Strip that wire and trade that copper in for $$$
I call dibs on all the discarded old stock parts!! 😅
i gets a bit squirrely.. =P
...when too little knowledge meets too much money.
Which one are you?