The 5 stages of learning to draw people

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  • @maYTeus
    @maYTeus 5 років тому +3642

    What is this myth you call being happy with your skills?

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +568

      Haven't you heard the legend of Dave, the happy artist? He looks at his drawings and just feels satisfied. I didn't believe it but my friends cousin said he met him

    • @itarfer
      @itarfer 5 років тому +83

      @@lovelifedrawing absurd!!

    • @Ianuarius
      @Ianuarius 5 років тому +113

      It's a cycle. You want to be able to do something. Then you struggle. For a long time. Finally, you can do it. But it's not as clear cut. Before that stage, you kinda can do it already. And it loses its value to you. You've already started to look somewhere else. Because there's always something else you want to do.
      This is super important. Every day, take a moment to appreciate how far you've come already.

    • @jinnie6292
      @jinnie6292 5 років тому +8

      it means being old and having a stacked up retirement plan

    • @meeranhaq9479
      @meeranhaq9479 5 років тому +19

      Even though I'm not professional, I'm maybe average or just below at best. Even I can sometimes stand back and be excited at what I managed to do.
      Even if I know others can do it 100x better. You have to ignore that lol. Cuz that's true in basically everything.

  • @straypaws6339
    @straypaws6339 5 років тому +859

    I watched this and I wasn't expecting him to look straight into my soul and recite everything I've been doing

    • @camronthomas394
      @camronthomas394 5 років тому +15

      dude same ! I really think that ths was not too much of a generalisation.
      Well if it was, it was a good one.

    • @cf8415
      @cf8415 5 років тому +3

      Still stage one....

    • @January-last
      @January-last 5 років тому

      Same

    • @JackFerret
      @JackFerret 5 років тому +3

      Same. Especially the "Drawings from not that long ago" part because they looked strikingly similar to my drawings from not that long ago.

    • @user-qv2qf1jk5o
      @user-qv2qf1jk5o 5 років тому

      Hey I know this is irrelevant but nice profile pic

  • @VereMyth
    @VereMyth 5 років тому +2956

    When all of the stages look better than anything I have drawn lol.

    • @RosesAndWhine
      @RosesAndWhine 5 років тому +46

      That just means you haven't drawn enough yet ;)

    • @serg10x
      @serg10x 5 років тому

      Stage 0 much? lol jk I think am on stage 2.5 drawing really muscular characters and at times more simple...still something off though..

    • @hassanbashe9769
      @hassanbashe9769 5 років тому +1

      Hi, very fine.

    • @adrielcapon8983
      @adrielcapon8983 5 років тому +1

      I am the like 2k lol

    • @user-zo3wy4we3t
      @user-zo3wy4we3t 4 роки тому +1

      I think you forgot tp stretch.

  • @Mario9964PC
    @Mario9964PC 5 років тому +1135

    I'm in still in the what I call the
    "I want to improve my art style but I'm lazy and lack motivation" stage

    • @rebeccaa9257
      @rebeccaa9257 5 років тому +15

      same

    • @Boopadoop348
      @Boopadoop348 5 років тому +49

      C'mon, it ain't gonna improve on it's own lol

    • @vibing6530
      @vibing6530 5 років тому +3

      @@Boopadoop348 yeah but I always forget. I will start some time

    • @ceyori3889
      @ceyori3889 5 років тому +35

      @@vibing6530 artists regret not starting out more early. Start now, and be rewarded with the satisfaction of improvement, or start later.

    • @chimerasofhafgufa
      @chimerasofhafgufa 5 років тому +43

      I'm in
      "I hate everything I do and did and get instantly exhausted and frustrated when I actually try to do anything so let's give up"

  • @sicelly
    @sicelly 5 років тому +486

    you made me feel good about drawing somewhere between level one and two. thank you. i dread watching these types of videos because they often bring me down, but this one actually makes me want to work on my stuff. massive thanks

    • @deniselisboa1
      @deniselisboa1 5 років тому +9

      You just stole my words x3

    • @JU-ki9wb
      @JU-ki9wb 4 роки тому +3

      Yes!! I feel the same way! Thank you

    • @DutchDread
      @DutchDread 4 роки тому +4

      I know how you feel, whenever I see anyone else draw, even their "look, my drawings weren't always this good either" drawings just make me feel like they're so talented and it just depresses me.
      I always try to convince myself that my drawings would also be seen like that but it's just hard.

    • @yakobi8434
      @yakobi8434 4 роки тому

      I agree. I started with a beginner's book but that confused me with anatomy and technique. These videos help me a lot.

  • @Doppe1ganger
    @Doppe1ganger 5 років тому +343

    This is uncanny how true everything is you just said. I can't stand 99% of artist tip videos, because they don't know what they're talking about and are still in, a very detailed and overworked, stage 1 (which i think looks actually worse then a simplistic child drawing). One thing i would say though, if you want to really start loathing yourself, draw big on a large canvas. Maybe this isn't the case for other people, but even though i was fairly good throughout all stages, it's like i had to start from scratch again when faced with a lifesized canvas. Standing back and drawing with a long stick (and squinting, i think that's a word, my eyes) was the only way for me to have a sense of the entire image and make progress throughout the stages again.

    • @zaraleemcauliffe1126
      @zaraleemcauliffe1126 5 років тому +21

      Doppe1ganger ahh so true. I used to draw small and then I took a life drawing class where we had to work on A3 sized paper and a easel. I swear my brain did somersaults in confusion.
      I prefer drawing bigger now though.

    • @Doppe1ganger
      @Doppe1ganger 5 років тому +5

      @@zaraleemcauliffe1126 Yes, i also prefer drawing bigger now. Following nude model drawing class for a year now, and i started trying to draw big like i draw small, but that's impossible, you really have to not mind making mistakes and try again and again and investigate how the body fits together. It's really hard but very satisfying when things are starting to click. Love it.

    • @astridsaragih8559
      @astridsaragih8559 5 років тому +21

      "if you want to really start loathing yourself, draw big on a large canvas" the painful truth😂

  • @liata_kiran
    @liata_kiran 5 років тому +249

    My brain says stage 2
    My eyes say stage 3
    But my hands are like "nope, buddy, you're still in stage 1"

  • @mirjamleesalu5188
    @mirjamleesalu5188 5 років тому +842

    You missed the stick figure stage... I seem to be stuck in that

    • @armsregkralkidna1359
      @armsregkralkidna1359 5 років тому +21

      I'm in potato shape stage drawing 😂

    • @petalparker5
      @petalparker5 5 років тому +7

      I've progressed to the muppet stage.

    • @anduro7448
      @anduro7448 5 років тому +3

      @Francisco A GThere was one thing that personally catapulted me from symbol to analitical
      It was this:
      "Draw something like you have never seen it before in your life"

    • @ryanclemons1
      @ryanclemons1 5 років тому +3

      I like this video but it also made me feel sad. Because i am in none of the stages i just started drawing a week ago with 30 of never drawing and 80% of the time i draw it looks almost nothing like what i was looking at like i will try to draw something and its ears or body will be to big or misshaped and will like almost nothing like i was trying to draw....it hurts that stuff i draw is worse then 95% of first grade art.

    • @ryanclemons1
      @ryanclemons1 5 років тому

      What do you mean when you say use proportions? if you mean am i trying to draw things the right way sure. but if feels like once i make one mistake the drawing gets worse and worse. but the issue is the making of that first mistake i often dont see.
      As for shapes i have been trying to get better at just drawing the shapes cubes being the worst after i make the square part my mind is not sure where to go sometimes i make a cube other times i screw up.. Truth be told i wish i had gotten into art as a kid but i was more into video games. growing up and now life is to crazy to go to school for drawing so i am trying to teach myself.

  • @someone-mh1bo
    @someone-mh1bo 5 років тому +734

    Can you do drapery next season? My cloth drawing are stiff an inorganic, help.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +69

      Good suggestion. We will do it at some point for sure. I want to work on it myself. Working on so many things at the moment :)

    • @stovespiegel
      @stovespiegel 5 років тому +7

      i know what you're trying to say but all clothes are inorganic haha

    • @ThoneJones
      @ThoneJones 5 років тому +20

      @@stovespiegel Actually, if you want to get technical, anything with carbon is organic. Cotton, polyester, wool, etc. all have carbon chains. I majored in chemistry. So there!

    • @sercider
      @sercider 5 років тому +1

      edgy clothes look good too

    • @plucas1
      @plucas1 5 років тому +11

      I'm not an expert, but one thing that helped me get past that a little when it was pointed out how much ocean waves and fabric folds have in common. Fabric and cloth are kind of just waves rippling and rolling over the contoured shores of the body...

  • @Isansnes
    @Isansnes 5 років тому +598

    I've developed a really bad habit where I draw really fast and rough and I'm super impatient. When I'm done drawing im actually stressed and exhausted😅

    • @SinerAthin
      @SinerAthin 5 років тому +55

      I remember hearing a tip that it was better to draw 5 figures really fast than 2 figures slower when learning.
      Problem for me with that however was that when I rushed through figures, my mind often turned off and my work quality really dropped, and I didn't learn much from it.
      On the other hand, when I slowed down and focused more on deconstruction and producing figures with solid foundations, the quality of my work and learning increased!
      I think this however is more because I draw faster by default, which meant that if I tried to overdo that, things just went completely out of control!
      Since then, I have learned to be much more relaxed when drawing, even doing new and challenging methods of painting. I find I learn much more when I am relaxed and take my time.

    • @chad912
      @chad912 5 років тому +12

      I find that when I take meticulous time and really do the "drawing" portion of a piece i will end exhausted because your body uses energy to think and thinking that hard for multiple hours actually does have a real effect. I agree with siner you should try to slow down and think about what you're doing, it will end up teaching you more in the end

    • @cnash5647
      @cnash5647 5 років тому +7

      @@SinerAthin Actually, practice more such as 3 hours(either continuosly or with breaks) per day is important. Why 3 hours you might ask, I don't have time for that. It's because allocating more time to your work makes you more involved in your artwork. Yes fast sketches help, but if your main goal is try to develop the sketch into a drawing, at least 10 minutes is needed to land out the basic shapes and basic anatomy, 10 seconds sketches are meant to capture gesture and rough ideas.

    • @TheCameraLuvsMe
      @TheCameraLuvsMe 5 років тому +4

      Omg are you me 🤣
      Compared to others who birth finished artworks like rabbits, I always felt like I'm the only one who is impatient and rushed. I rarely ever do anything detailed and "finished" looking because of it. But I really want to improve my portfolio so I'm trying to be more mindful in my process.

    • @tj843
      @tj843 5 років тому +7

      try breathing before the mark and exhale with the mark. try not to hold your breath too long lmao

  • @kjellkanin
    @kjellkanin 5 років тому +203

    I am definitely a bit stuck in stage two of learning. It's okay cause I'm making decent drawings by this point which makes it much more fun to practice, but I can't wait to get more expressive!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +16

      It'll come Agathe. You'll have to take some leaps of faith. You'll shift from analysis to feeling, so it's less certain ground

  • @PortalVIII
    @PortalVIII 5 років тому +41

    This was somehow really inspiring, recently I've been feeling "stupid" about my art, I looked back on a piece I worked very hard on and thought, "Wow, that's not actually impressive at all, what was I thinking!" and I felt really bad after that. But it's shifting more and more towards the "I want to get lost in the flow" and "I'll surprise myself" stages of creativity again, which I find really enjoyable, haha!

  • @agikoboriko
    @agikoboriko 5 років тому +162

    i had a long artblock when i stopped creating and after 2 3 years i started again to draw. i think when i stopped i was at analythical stage. but when i started again i began with the first then the third stage and i returned after months to the second stage. it is an interesting journey :) this video was quite useful to see consciously where i am going now.

    • @alexmrocks10
      @alexmrocks10 5 років тому +1

      Ágnes Kóbori-Kovács yeah pretty sure ive gone from 1 to 3 and just shift between them

    • @JayPee575
      @JayPee575 4 роки тому

      I too stopped drawing. Although I was never good at figure drawing it's sooo frustrating picking up a pencil and not having the level of skill I once had

    • @Vladimirwlr1234
      @Vladimirwlr1234 4 роки тому +1

      I've been drawing on and off for maybe 20 years. I did this several times. The only time I feel I actually made significant progress was from this January till now. For some reason, it just seems to be moving. I'm still shit, mind you, but I'm not afraid to just throw something away and start from scratch and smash my head against a wall as many times as necessary just to learn that one small thing that has been eluding me.

  • @neroxyx3085
    @neroxyx3085 5 років тому +27

    I thought I was a good artist but because of this I realized that I'm just at stage 2 and now I'm motivated

  • @JacobHalton
    @JacobHalton 5 років тому +54

    Oh man, this is a great breakdown, and that graph is especially genius. I also really love how you put it as a cycle. Being a mostly "self taught" artist (didn't go to college for it, but have taken bunch of classes), I feel like there's a tendency to skip over a lot of fundamentals since there's no teacher telling us what we should be learning. These steps really help me see where I am now. Sort of a mix between 3-4, so that shows me I should go back and make sure I'm really understanding the steps I'm not as much in control of yet.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +3

      thanks Jacob :) it's a great place to be when you've got through the really tough early stages when it's all a bit overwhelming - i think it just gets more and more fun exponentially (though there is still tons of frustration!)

  • @AMartinstitute
    @AMartinstitute 5 років тому +5

    I love how you're showing old drawings of yours, because it concretely shows your long term skill development. To me it gives us hope, that we will get to a higher level if we simply keep growing and growing. Thank you for the video!

  • @chevyboy9525
    @chevyboy9525 5 років тому +9

    It is GREAT that this video is shown as 3 split screens, each depicting the stage of the same drawing simultaneously. Presentation like this thus enables better mental perception of what is going on while tackling the problem at each stage as the drawing progresses.
    Great job - wonderful and intelligent work. Thank you.

  • @soohoo555
    @soohoo555 4 роки тому +4

    When I saw others painting I felt I'm not good enough but after seeing this I have started to accept myself

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому

      Great to hear Ranjini. Thanks for your comment

  • @paul-oram
    @paul-oram 4 роки тому +4

    Very clever introductory film. This has got me back into drawing after doing very little for 20 or so years. I reached stage 3, I would say - but I realise now, that for all those life drawing classes I attended 20 years ago, I never actually received much in the way of tutorship - other than passing comments every time the teacher did their rounds. I'm now on day 7 of the Figuary 2020 course. Initially, I was sceptical that online classes could compare with a live class, but combined with the extensive and intelligent supporting films, over anatomy, in particular, they have proven extremely effective. I was a little nervous to start, but I'm now back in the zone, and looking at the anatomical aspects of a pose in a way I never had previously. The models are exceptionally good - all poses are carefully considered to match the challenges of the specific days of the course. To top things off, this is all delivered for free! Incredible - thanks to you both.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  4 роки тому

      thanks Paul, i'm so glad it's been useful! i love life drawing classes but yeah generally there isn't a structure to the learning. good luck with figuary 2020!

  • @realxvrw
    @realxvrw 5 років тому +348

    I think I'm stuck in the first stage. 😢

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +112

      I was stuck there for the first 30 years of my life! Starting to do proper practice designed to break out of that is the key!

    • @realxvrw
      @realxvrw 5 років тому +12

      @@lovelifedrawing I learned a lot from you. Now I developed a habit doing croquis café's drawing session every day. I believe that I will do better in drawing in the future. Really love the ideas you gave me. Thank you so much! ;)

    • @matchaanad5693
      @matchaanad5693 5 років тому +4

      It's okay my friend, we've all been there. You got this!

    • @cherri4026
      @cherri4026 5 років тому

      OFF ME 2

    • @kayaeki
      @kayaeki 5 років тому +2

      You got this man! I know you can do this, I did too :D

  • @anishinaabae
    @anishinaabae 5 років тому +8

    one of my favourite things about how you draw is that you don't use simple shapes to map out the figure you're drawing. you just start laying down the picture you want!
    i used to *love* drawing when i was younger, but as i got older my interested waned when i began to realize hat all of the artists i looked up to would use basic skeletons before they started actually drawing the details of the characters themselves. i just wanted to jump right in rather than map out what i planned on drawing, but these wonderful artists whose skills far surpassed mine seemed to all employ this method... so that must mean that i'll never become as good unless i also followed suit!
    i'm 27 years old now and i stopped drawing ten years ago, after i left high school. since getting into crochet my interest in art has begun to grow again, and i feel so excited and joyful! i can't wait to get back into sketching, as well as trying new mediums i never tried when i was younger. i think i also stopped writing creatively for similar reasons, because great authors liked to map out general plot points and characters, but i just liked to start writing without a clear purpose or goal, and then edit things afterwards if necessary.
    i guess part of my own personal artistic journey is realizing that not all people work this way, and that it's totally valid to just jump right in!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +5

      hey thanks! i am quite impatient and want to jump in too. but i will say, it's really useful to put down big picture initial gestural marks and structural marks as a first layer. you don't need to think of it as mapping or planning, just capturing the big movement and flow you feel

  • @river.3286
    @river.3286 5 років тому +2

    You have such a calming presence and it's nice to find a channel that understands the reality of learning to draw, but can still make it motivational. I started learning last year (late 20s for anyone trying to get motivated to start) and I think I'm somewhere in stage 2 (but only on certain things). One of the difficult aspects of learning to draw with consistent improvement is not knowing what "forward" looks like, other than "draw better." A lot of youtube art channels feel like they're tailored to people with a certain skill level, but your attitude and explicit explanation are great. Subscribed pretty instantly

  • @Emiliapocalypse
    @Emiliapocalypse 5 років тому +6

    This is somewhat like the 5 Stages of Art-Making Grief:
    •Stage 1) Denial - you deny that your art is terrible and need more practice
    •Stage 2) Anger - you become angry that your art isn’t what you imagine in your head. Up there, it’s way better!
    •Stage 3) Bargaining - begging a higher power to bestow upon you the level of talent you’ve seen online
    •Stage 4) Depression - well screw everything then, why even bother??
    •And finally Stage 5) Acceptance - you finally accept that if you want to make the work you’re seeing in your head, you’ve got to keep making work you aren’t proud of first.
    Love this video! It was really uplifting. I’m trying to pick the pencil back up and this certainly motivates ✌️

  • @sohinibiswas563
    @sohinibiswas563 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks a lot for this..I was feeling frustrated today as I can't do the gestures right.. have been stuck for a while now..your words really helped me a lot to remain motivated and keep trying

  • @blitzritz
    @blitzritz 5 років тому +4

    One of the best videos on art I've seen the entire year. I am grateful that you put this out. It was highly motivating, As an aspiring artist, I could relate so well with all the struggles. Especially in the first 2 stages

  • @fbpliegorrivero8869
    @fbpliegorrivero8869 5 років тому +15

    Your UA-cam page is probably the best I've ever visited, and I have seen a lot of these. Thanks so much.

  • @jameshills7425
    @jameshills7425 5 років тому +5

    I'm glad you are speaking of stages and about transitioning through these stages. So many instructional articles show very advanced results and I and others I have known are discouraged at reaching stage 5 when I am still at stage 2. Acknowledge and be happy with the stage you are at.

  • @hunskiestudios5917
    @hunskiestudios5917 5 років тому +4

    This was an awesome one, I find myself struggling every time I learn something new, and it was good to be reminded that art and drawing is a giant cycle and that I will get where I need to be someday. Thank you for this one!!!!

  • @lisalundberg3614
    @lisalundberg3614 5 років тому +4

    Right now I’m in a period of time where I just love to draw. It’s amazing! I have a sketchbook where I have drawings from the last two years. Sometimes I’ve been more motivated to draw in it (like right now) and sometimes I haven’t drawn for months. I’m seeing progress and I’m starting to get an eye for it, currently working my way into stage 3. This video helped a lot with knowing where I am and what I’m doing. THANK YOU! 👌

  • @jamesm1114
    @jamesm1114 5 років тому +1

    I’m so hard on myself when it comes to art. Even just practicing gets me frustrated. When you said “confusion is still learning” it actually took a weight off me. I’m gonna take things like stress and struggle more as a learning experience instead of a definite dead end for now on. Thank you!!!

  • @sterlingfink2810
    @sterlingfink2810 5 років тому +22

    I think this is one of my favorites of your videos already -- so many "aha" moments! I'm really looking forward to seeing more on this topic. (And to getting out the analytical stage!)

  • @Pumaman86
    @Pumaman86 5 років тому +1

    This is one of the most helpful videos on drawing I've watched. I've always thought about my skill level in terms of where I wasn't, rather being part of a legitimate process.

  • @jmat45sr6
    @jmat45sr6 5 років тому +3

    very informative. I'm glad I found this. I took figure drawing way back in the '60s. Recently I tried a figure and it was a disappointment. It's back to the initial stage.

  • @wileycom
    @wileycom 3 роки тому +1

    A brilliant lesson, Kenzie! Many many thanks! SOOO useful snd yes, PLEASE more in this vein. I am a total beginner but in my heart I see great promise. Also helps that I am a teacher (Music) myself and totally agree with your Philosophy and POV on Learning. Bravo! You are a sensitive perceptive soul, wise beyond your years! I didn’t reach the Self Compassion Stage for decades! Luckily I am able to bring it into this new adventure called Drawing. I often ask my overly self-critical music students if they would dare scream and shame or demean a young innocent child. They gasp in horror, “NO NEVER!” They quickly assure me. “Then why would you try to destroy your own Creative Inner Child? ... Silence. Perseverance furthers! A heartfelt Thank you for all you do!

  • @tsorakin
    @tsorakin 5 років тому +4

    Wow, I was surprised at how spot on this was. I find myself mostly in the second stage at the moment and trying to push though. Thank you for this inspiration.

  • @FalardeMusicaeLegal
    @FalardeMusicaeLegal 4 роки тому +1

    You've just close-captioned every single struggle in my head!! Thank you for this video! Gonna watch it over and over.

  • @mcarlson6712
    @mcarlson6712 5 років тому +4

    holy hell this was a wake up call, one of the most helpful videos I've encountered. I'd love to know more about fighting through that first stage, because it seems to be the hardest to overcome

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +1

      yeah i'm planning to make a video on that soon. thanks i'm glad you liked it :)

  • @mattysones
    @mattysones 4 роки тому

    a cycle is a good way to explain it. i think it's sort of like leveling up a skill, then once you've 'finished' you go back and re-level it to the next level. this was actually very encouraging!

  • @vince-1337
    @vince-1337 5 років тому +3

    This is an insane insight of Art travel, I probably between 4 and 5 stage, get this creative touch is a pure challenge to be able to express himself. Thanx alot for this video!

  • @dysupersonic
    @dysupersonic 5 років тому +2

    This is just what I needed, for a moment I was feeling lost in my figure journey, but this is a nice revelation. Thank you!

  • @HOTKNlFE
    @HOTKNlFE 5 років тому +4

    I’m really having trouble with drawing in general. I haven’t been actively drawing in nearly a year and definitely less in the past month due to some obstacles in my life. I feel like I’m back tracking because my drawings have become stiffer and my memory of techniques have fuzzed away and my consistency has dropped to an all time low.
    Thank you for making this video, it feels like a massive wake up call! When you talked about the stages it really made me feel like I was understood because I’ve always felt that it was just me struggling with art and that I was the only one who wasn’t improving. Keep up the good work champ!!

  • @jodders619
    @jodders619 3 роки тому

    It was really good to see the rougher older stuff and then onto the more refined drawings. I've started drawing again after a long hiatus and these videos have really helped assess my own drawings more critically and maybe be a bit kinder to the less successful sketches in my book.

  • @sparkoceanic
    @sparkoceanic 5 років тому +6

    You described the way we default to drawing preconceived ideas instead of what we see very well. I'm still struggling with it, but improving more after some reflection.
    There's a zone that's quite hard to achieve for me, that is, being aware of what you're drawing to get likeness, and being in a pure art trance. Being completely in one or the other is fairly doable, but being completely in both feels like it might make me loopy.

  • @darco3126
    @darco3126 3 роки тому

    I've just found this channel about a week ago, dude I really love this videos, I'm relearning how to draw since the last time I draw was when I was 15, and this is just too inspirational and beautiful. Thank you man, sincerely thank you for your work. I hope you are doing OK.

  • @myrrysmiasi4866
    @myrrysmiasi4866 5 років тому +8

    The analytical stage is definitely my comfort zone. Sure I still revert to preconceptions from time to time and a couple of times in life drawing class I somehow managed to do some beautiful expressive five minute poses in gouache, but it is very rare for me to enjoy the process or get good results unless I'm really taking my time and drawing accurately.

  • @jackbrogan6183
    @jackbrogan6183 5 років тому +1

    I don't do figure art but this video 100% resonated with me, it made me realise I seem to be stuck crossing between the analytical and simple stages, but hopefully with a little more push I'll break through soon

  • @lulamidgeable
    @lulamidgeable 5 років тому +3

    This is great. I find gesture drawing so hit and miss and this is why! I'm at stage 2, that makes so much sense but I've never seen it described like this. Thanks very much.

  • @maryamdirk8961
    @maryamdirk8961 4 роки тому

    This video was extremely helpful - I think I was trying to absorb these lessons too quickly and I found your comments really worthwhile. Thanks

  • @izzytheamazing
    @izzytheamazing 5 років тому +3

    This video is amazing and couldn't have come at a better time. Please make more videos about this topic - there can't be enough information about the struggle of beginning drawing people!

  • @lucianosimmons3003
    @lucianosimmons3003 5 років тому +1

    Wow man. I've never heard it placed into stages like this... And they're SPOT ON! Everything you covered on these stages (I'm at beginning of 4) I can relate to. The frustration, the process, the way your eye begins to "see" .. now I draw with my mind everywhere.. driving, swimming etc. I'm thinking "what's this material? How's it act or react etc ... Ty so much for this. You are a true artist. Ty for the help!

  • @joelbetancourt8359
    @joelbetancourt8359 5 років тому +4

    What a great analysis. A lot of what you said really resonates with me. I like to think I'm taking my first steps in the "simplify" stage but is also true I go back to early stages. The idea of expression is something I know exist but when something goes wrong is easier to over-analyze and find comfort in the anatomy as science an not as an art form. I hope it makes sense. Its very helpful to see all stages as a cycle as you said only that with more practice you go faster and "easier" on the stages and eventually you can go all the way back to symbols stage if you want it. Consciously. Thank you for sharing this. I really appreciate it.

  • @PeterHarveyUK
    @PeterHarveyUK 5 років тому +1

    This video has helped me to locate and orientate my own development. I am making steady progress but am still at the analytical stage (the second stage). This video made perfect sense to me and gave me a clearer sense of how I might be able to develop. Kenzo has deepened my belief that patience is appropriate and likely to be fruitful in the longer term. Thank you, Kenzo.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +1

      thanks Peter - good luck with it! it can be frustrating at times, but worth the effort

  • @cindylong2782
    @cindylong2782 5 років тому +24

    Simplifying seems to be an issue for me. Thanks for great video.

    • @philippfrogel9355
      @philippfrogel9355 4 роки тому

      if it still is an issue, you might draw under time pressure. this forces you naturally to reduce and simplify and keep what matters

  • @tgpart72
    @tgpart72 3 роки тому +1

    Idk if you can read through all the comments on this video. But. THIS. IS. AN. AMAZING. VIDEO! Ty it really eases some of the frustration that I feel. I know I consistently struggle. With my analytical skills in drawing. The key is to be patient and I love how you describe better skills and abilities in higher levels of drawing

  • @CharlesHancockCreations
    @CharlesHancockCreations 5 років тому +5

    Fantastic video. This is the fundamentals. Even established artists are always practicing. Thanks.

  • @emigoldber
    @emigoldber 5 років тому +1

    I appreciate your tutorials and your videos, I'm very young and was drawing every day for like 1 year now. I started drawing 2 years ago and It has greatly improved (actually still learning proportions, muscles, fat etc.) ... I just found your channel and it's really helping me! Thank you, Picasso the 2nd!

  • @ycwittmann
    @ycwittmann 5 років тому +3

    Elongating the figure! yes, I'm familiar with that one. Had no idea that was part of a stage. Thanks so much for this video. It's really helpful to see that all of my mistakes are a progression towards something better!

  • @egorvongorr5209
    @egorvongorr5209 5 років тому +2

    Wonderful lesson! Thank you! I have been drawing for 40 plus years and I am professional, but recently I feel I have started all over again like a beginner - just like you said

  • @CherryStudios2
    @CherryStudios2 5 років тому +77

    At what stage of development do your drawings become clothed?

    • @lisin4444
      @lisin4444 5 років тому +1

      You can do that at any stage

    • @CherryStudios2
      @CherryStudios2 5 років тому +13

      @@lisin4444 I was joking :)

    • @icuthere968
      @icuthere968 5 років тому

      😂😂😂

    • @darknoise666
      @darknoise666 4 роки тому

      i believe it comes before the skinned stage

  • @laurenceChaux
    @laurenceChaux 5 років тому +1

    im glad ive found this video since I've currently stuck with the analytical on my portraiture and can not seem to got to the creative and simplification. im glad i found this since it reminded me that it's all a cycle

  • @bl0ss0mshum4n
    @bl0ss0mshum4n 5 років тому +6

    Motivation level while watching this video: +25%
    Motivation level when seeing the dog: +75%
    (Seriously though, much thanks and appreciation to you -and your pup- for this video!!!)

  • @ronja4567
    @ronja4567 5 років тому +2

    Just watching this, seeing where I am at and where I can go/what I still have to learn is so motivating

  • @ItsLizV
    @ItsLizV 5 років тому +7

    This was a great video! It was nice to see this sort of progression, to know that whichever stage we are in now it doesn't mean it's "bad".

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +2

      Thanks Liz. Yeah it's good to break out of thinking it's "bad" early, cos you never get to a stage where you think it's good enough! When you see it as a journey, and I know that sounds cheesy, you learn better and it's more enjoyable too

  • @caitlinrobertson3780
    @caitlinrobertson3780 4 роки тому

    literally the most useful drawing video ive ever watched
    described what im trying to learn perfectly

  • @Newtooils
    @Newtooils 5 років тому +9

    I found this video particularly encouraging. Onwards and upwards!

  • @harley1063
    @harley1063 5 років тому +1

    i stop life drawing and started trying to draw cartoons bc it hurt so much to see my finished life drawings. this video is the first time i've ever felt like I could actually get where i want to be, so im opening up my old life drawing stuff now and getting back at it! Thanks for the motivation, i didn't realize how badly I needed it

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому

      that's awesome! i like your profile pic of the fox

  • @candysummer7646
    @candysummer7646 5 років тому +104

    An awesome video an helpful to understand the process

  • @skybluebrad2781
    @skybluebrad2781 5 років тому +2

    This helped me not be so critical of myself and progress man, I appreciate it, thank you

  • @moustached1252
    @moustached1252 5 років тому +5

    Great explanation of the stages. Now I think know what I am missing in the learning process. Thanks a lot!

  • @markoartist5273
    @markoartist5273 2 роки тому

    Kenzo, you are the best teacher ever! Man, covering everything and really understanding the process and have the right words to encourage students to continue moving forward. God bless you! If there is a God for the Arts she may like you a lot! 😀🖌✍️

  • @MooMilkMilk
    @MooMilkMilk 4 роки тому +35

    Your eyes: I see the perspective and curves
    Your brain: I undderstand the different values
    and volumes
    Your hands: *draw a stick figure*

  • @nommable
    @nommable 5 років тому +1

    This helped me SO MUCH. I've been watching a bunch of videos on the nuts and bolts but I was between stages one and two and I could tell there was so much to work on that I couldn't figure out what direction to head. But now I know- getting more analytical will help me loosen up later, so it's not a problem if I get really analytical at first.

  • @lauryn.artist6566
    @lauryn.artist6566 5 років тому +4

    Really interesting to hear what goes into each stage, looking back at my own drawings it can seem like some pieces just happened to be miracles 😆 I'd really enjoy more videos about this topic.

  • @siljefar
    @siljefar 5 років тому

    I found this video very helpful and encouraging. I have not been able to grasp how to do gesture drawing, and I have had the impression that gestures should be the first step to figure drawing. This has been holding me back. You gave me a different perspective on things. So now I will just keep doing «bad» drawings, without feeling ashamed. Then I will move on to gesture drawings once my eye is better trained to see it. Thanks!

  • @ncuXoguHo4ka
    @ncuXoguHo4ka 5 років тому +3

    I can really see the stages in my own drawings! That's really interesting, thank you!

  • @gold_vinyl
    @gold_vinyl 4 роки тому

    Honestly this was so much more motivational than other drawing videos, makes me feel a lot better about what I'm doing thank you so much!!!

  • @britshell
    @britshell 5 років тому +5

    great video I can definitely feel myself in stage 2 right now. Self-deprecation at all, lol. but I'm starting to feel a tug towards adding more gesture and flow to my art so what you say feel right at least from my personal experience.

  • @sourgreendolly7685
    @sourgreendolly7685 3 роки тому

    “...they aren’t what the artist wanted.”
    Many years ago that’s why I gave up but I’m getting back to art now and hearing you put that into words really speaks to me. This is why I’m working on learning the fundamentals. It’s gonna take time, but being able to create what I truly want will be worth it!

  • @christinachampion3676
    @christinachampion3676 5 років тому +4

    Always very comprehensive explanations, Thanks!

  • @BolshephobicBabe
    @BolshephobicBabe 4 роки тому

    This video was super helpful for me as a beginner, I'm constantly self-deprecating, which I'm fine with, but this makes me see that all the time I waste practicing, I'm still learning something. It seems to be more about cementing an artist's eye or perspective, which comes the more you try it out. All my analyzing and reworking is learning. Thank you!
    Also your puppers is the cutest :)

  • @tolevirayne9961
    @tolevirayne9961 5 років тому +5

    Thank you so much! This helped a lot
    I'm a beginner and I am really glad I came across this.
    I really appreciate it!

  • @sofiasofia8726
    @sofiasofia8726 5 років тому +1

    Thank God I found this channel - finally! Thank you for all the honest and amazing videos, and this particular one is very helpful in explaining the pathway of improvement and what to expect - it gave me hope!! I am doing the Beginner Guide now, really enjoying it.

  • @samdanielle5455
    @samdanielle5455 5 років тому +18

    Thanks❤️ This is really helpful for my mental health. At first, art was a way for me to destress and forget about the bad things from those bad days but as months went on, i felt more insecure about my art thinking that even my art wasnt good enough...❤️ Anyway, can you do a video about how to get away with art block

  • @nanasabia
    @nanasabia 4 роки тому

    Thank you for being such a lovely and skilled teacher! It has become a rare thing to encounter this kind of guidance. I am so happy I found this channel, trying to make sense of my ''stage''

  • @emiliozavalaart
    @emiliozavalaart 5 років тому +4

    This was super interesting, good and helpful. Thanks!
    I'm currently in the overly analytical stiff stage, and now I know!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +2

      That's great Emilio. To break out you'll need to take some leaps of faith and risk some bad drawings. It's tough to go from controlled analysis to feeling but super fun when you do

    • @emiliozavalaart
      @emiliozavalaart 5 років тому +1

      @@lovelifedrawing I'll totally do that!! And thanks a lot for writing back♥️♥️

  • @pnw8312
    @pnw8312 5 років тому +1

    I love this video and how positive it is! Ive been drawing all my life with no help. It’s nice to know all the things I’ve struggled with are normal, and the things I’ve tried to do are the correct steps I just haven’t mastered the previous ones yet. Here’s to hoping I get out of stage 2!

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому

      Awesome! I think the struggle isn't just normal, but essential!

  • @mrvic9395
    @mrvic9395 5 років тому +9

    how useful was this information.... new subscriber here. now to catch up on some of the older videos.

  • @annemarielucas5561
    @annemarielucas5561 5 років тому +1

    Beautifully explained with great empathy and understanding for the beginner. Thank you.

  • @mitschcrafter6766
    @mitschcrafter6766 5 років тому +62

    *I'am in the WTF are my drawings this moment stage.*
    Sometimes it looks good and sometimes it is all cartoony and everything looks weird like one arm looks like jelly and the other is just a line.

    • @thehumanpractice2985
      @thehumanpractice2985 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe sometimes you're focused and sometimes you're not?
      I kinda feel what you are saying, and for me when I am really focused I create really nice art.
      Yet there are sometimes I take the process fro granted and I'm not really focused, and it's... it's a mess lol.
      Hard to explain how it goes wrong because I'm not focused, so there are mistakes everywhere, unconsistently.

  • @imacverde3260
    @imacverde3260 5 років тому +1

    So good teaching! This is a great tool to help us administrate frustration, to keep going and finally to improve our skills and results ...but most of all to enjoy the journey. Thanks a lot.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +1

      glad it was useful - good luck with your practice!

  • @mhergoparian174
    @mhergoparian174 5 років тому +3

    I like this video so much ! I would love to learn how to break out of the “mould” .I am fairly new to drawing and have been practicing figure drawing and reading books regarding human anatomy, but I can’t see the use of them in my drawing or translating the information to what I see ! Thank you for the video keep the great content coming ❤️

  • @marybethandrews6493
    @marybethandrews6493 4 роки тому

    Fantastic. It’s so important for teachers to understand this too. You have to meet the student where they are in their process to help them forward and progress

  • @rogermonroe8021
    @rogermonroe8021 5 років тому +4

    Always look forward to your videos. I think I'm having a hard time moving to the simplification stage. Also your analytical and simplification drawings are beautiful.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Roger! It's tough to move on from the controlled drawings. You might have to take some risks. We will make a video on it!

  • @wendieappel9104
    @wendieappel9104 Рік тому

    So very helpful. Thank you! Please make more videos. I've taken so many classes but honestly your way of saying things lands right in my brain. It's encouraging and keeps me picking up those pencils to try, try again.

  • @isa9ashley
    @isa9ashley 5 років тому +4

    I think I'm between the analitical and the expressive stages. Slowly advancing, even though I'm happy with only around 1 in 20 drawings. I also have bouts of anatomy problems, just when I think I'm over that phase!

  • @elloingo
    @elloingo 5 років тому +2

    I did a lot of life drawing at university and remember feeling these transitions happening week by week

  • @jeeteshgoyal9117
    @jeeteshgoyal9117 5 років тому +3

    Thank you sir for the video. I feel that I have stuck in analysis stage the video helps me to understand my current position.

    • @lovelifedrawing
      @lovelifedrawing  5 років тому +1

      Cool Jeetesh, we will make a video about moving to the next level:)

  • @sophiezhang9878
    @sophiezhang9878 5 років тому +2

    This video is so helpful, giving us an idea of what we are going to experience for us lost beginners. I am at stage one, for sure, but occasionally I will have a false feeling that I might be at stage four or five especially when I am drawing simple things, such as an apple or a pear, and myself. If I draw my self either my face, body, and poses, with or without clothing, I can be correct (as in proportions), intended expressive, or creative in order to speak out my emotion and state of mind, probably because I spend hours looking at myself every day for years...Then when I feel so happy and creative and try to draw other people or animals, bam, I am back to stage 0.5

  • @ViktorsJournal
    @ViktorsJournal 5 років тому +4

    Hehe an you used about all the same words, expressions, emotions I keep saying/feeling while learning figure drawing (or just drawing) exactly xD. It's nice to see someoe showing it like this.
    I don't even know which stage I'm stuck at anymore (I'm still a beginner with less than 2 years of exp I just recently aquired my first lvl up :'D), sometimes my gestures look kinda nice and like working, a day later I don't even know how I got it so nice before and I'm back to frustration (AAAGHHH!).
    I like your videos keep going, wish you guys all the best.

  • @kanachiaki
    @kanachiaki 5 років тому +2

    Very interesting and helpful video, thank you. I realised I'm stuck at the second stage, overworking is definately my biggest issue right now, so much I tell myself, like a mantra, while I draw, 'keep it simple, keep it simple' ahah