I already own this, but this solidified we have the EXACT same taste in tools. I have never seen a channel that owned all the same tools that I own, it's crazy, subbed!
I bought one 2 months ago, the one with the blue switch, anodized red, best thing i ever owned, just got the 3 speed today, i love it! Every electrician needs one of these.
I agree. I didn’t think I would use it much, but I use it all the time. I like it because it feels like a regular screwdriver. If I’m going to use a big electric screwdriver I’d just use my M12 tools
That’s what I liked about it… that it is really just a screwdriver that can be a powered one… I wasn’t looking for a bigger tool, my M12 stuff can do all that. 👍👍
I just got mine yesterday. Can't wait to try this out on the job. It beats carrying around even my 12v impact. Just a side note, it uses Japanese style bits that has a longer 13mm anvil which is longer than the American standard. It's worth it to order Japanese bits as well. You'll get a much better fit in the holder.
Yeah I didn’t pay much attention to that till people started mentioning it. Thanks for the heads up. I did a bunch of electrical work one day, and it’s all I used. Works great for me so far.
I have the same selectable 3 speed version I've had it for a. Couple months & love it!. It has worked well in several different circumstances . Hope you like it as well!
Yeah… I feel like the speed is what I was kind of looking for without the torque loss. I feel this is probably the better option over the low speed for sure… I would have to try the high speed and see if the speed would be something that I would prefer. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it with more time with it than me 👍
Great vid mate. Got 1. For the Japanese language guide on the box, used Samsung Bixby vision and translated the image. But your guide is more clear especially with relation to the 3 speed and the slow/fast light effects. thanks
I've also been looking at these at Amazon Japan and they advertise short drill bits, I think they only offer two sizes 3 & 4mm, for these for doing things like mounting strike plates. Thanks for the review, I definitely plan on picking one up.
Yeah I already know one guy that next time I work with him and he sees it… he is going to want one… It is a new option for me to figure out what all it works best for… since this is my first of this type of screwdriver. It’s been all drills or screwdrivers for me, but there are many things I can see it being good for. With it being a nice manual screwdriver too, I think I am more likely to have it in my hand.
I was researching these again and your video popped up at the top of the list. I couldn’t remember which one was the jack of all. I really want to get this soon. You were talking about not using this for screws on fixtures, but I started thinking that “most” call for about 17-19 lb.in. And I actually use a torque screwdriver to set my fixtures (although that has always seemed to loose to me, I still give it a little extra). I think whenever I get this I’ll have to run an experiment because if this actually sets them to spec it’ll be one less thing to carry around for simple outlets and switches (lugs are a different story.) Anyway, this video was just as informative the second time around 😂😂😂 Also if you’re carrying around your new Olight Baton 4, you’ve got a cable that’ll charge this up if you’re running low and don’t feel like going back to your truck to charge it😂😂😂 Keep up the good work my friend.
The power bank for the screwdriver is yet another great use for that cable 👍👍 You can use this on anything and if it doesn’t have enough torque to start or finish just use your wrist. That’s what I like about this one, it still feels like a regular vessel screwdriver even in manual mode.
@@MORGANSMaintenance you turned me on to the Vessel brand…I do like the way they fit in your hand. I’ve found a few on the random cheap on Amazon. I got a hold of one of the 8” ceramic ball 5/16” flat blades for $7 shipped from Japan on the US site. Only for about a day and went back to $21.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I also noticed that the P1 ups the manual Nm from 10 for the other two versions up to 12 Nm. Manually torque a screwdriver to almost 11 lb.ft. Isn’t a really easy task for most
My experience with cordless screwdrivers goes as far as the Bosch 4v and I hated that tool. This tool is just the best and it changes everything including the way I see cordless screwdrivers. I started buying those vessel ratcheting screwdrivers and I just found out that the bit extension that came with my set is the exact fit as the ratcheting's, so I can pop the long bit from the ratcheting and insert on the cordless screw driver. Best of both worlds.
I don’t have much experience with them, but I liked how this one basically is just like using a screwdriver (size and shape) it’s not bulky like most of them. I like it so far… thanks for the tip on the extension 👍
Great video as always. Was looking at the other versions of this screwdriver. Glad to see there is a 3rd and better option. Very informative and descriptive. I love it when I see a new Morgan’s Maintenance video in my inbox.
Yeah for me this is the right fit. I for sure think it’s a better option than the Low Speed… (for me). I am not sure how fast the high speed really is, but this is the type of speed I was looking for. Appreciate the support my friend 👍
I picked this up after seeing your video. The one thing that I didn’t like was the amount of play when i tried it with non Japanese bits. I solved it by compressing aluminum foil into bit holder until it was thick enough to keep a wera rapidaptor from moving. It lengthens the tool a little bit overall, but the bit removal is now even easier and I can use any of the 25mm bits from my wera toolcheck 😊 I don’t think I’ll ever take the rapidaptor off of this driver. Thanks for the video!
Your welcome 👍. You are the second one who noticed that.. I didn’t even pay attention to it much until someone brought it up to me, but I had really mostly used the phillips bit that came with it for the most part. Thanks for the “fix” option
@@unmesh59 don’t do it if you plan to use the vessel bits. It’s definitely removable if you pick it out but not something you’re going to want to do regularly.
@@georgehayesviolin Understood. I don't have a Rapidaptor but I do have a Wera magnetic bit holder that I tried in my manual Vessel 220W Ball Screwdriver (which came with changeable double ended bits) and it fit snugly. Should this give me hope for using Wera bits in the 3-speed electric Vessel screwdriver?
Hi again. Hope your having a great weekend. Going over this video again as I have a use case coming up that made me consider it again. (Big fuse board change). I looked on the Dutch amazon and the USA amazon. Finally made a account on the Japan Amazon. As that came out cheaper. Did order a set of PZ2 bit with it as we here in Europe use PZ a lot more then PH bits. Their saying 4 day shipping and I don’t think that’s bad at all coming in all the way from Japan. But one thing my friend. Me following your account is getting expansive 😂 keep up the good work.
I guess there are worse addictions to have. And at least this addiction should help me make money. Unlike some other more unhealthy ones lol. Well that’s what I tell my wife anyway.
Funny how much alike people can be from countries on the other side of a ocean. Still really don’t understand why your channel ain’t biggen then it is. Seem to me like your doing it right.
@@robholland5925 appreciate that. I’m surprised how big it is. I didn’t really start it expecting it to do well at all. I had zero experience filming and editing. I figured I will post a couple videos and see what happens. I really like talking with people who are like me, it’s what keeps me going. I work by myself a lot… or with people who aren’t as tool happy as me. This gives me a chance to talk about tools with people that like them the same as me.
So about 4-5 years ago I bought a Chinese made vessel knock off from Amazon. Then I when ahead and got a vessel... It was not as good as the Chinese knock off. Then just last year I got a new Chinese knock off from I believe the same company. The new one only lasted 3 months and I went ahead and got a Craftsman electrical screwdriver. I thought it would be more powerful because it was a 4v but no. I ended just using my Chinese knock off and it's still hanging strong. I don't know why it's better but for some reason that old screwdriver is a champ and it only cost me $31 bucks on Amazon.
That’s why it’s always good to give things a shot. You never know sometimes. I have a friend who has bought something similar. It looks more like an Annex Screwdriver than a Vessel and he really likes it. I mainly like the Vessel because it’s also typically what I’m using fur dedicated screwdrivers. That makes it feel the same in my hand. It also has been performing well for me.
Worth looking at the hitachi/hikoki. Had couple years, bit bigger but comes with two replacable batteries so dont get caught short. Plenty of torque. 2 spead. Want the vessel but the non replacable battery after a couple of years is a no go for me. Dont like binning tools
Yeah that’s the one thing I’m not a big fan of either on tools. I don’t like anything that I use (lights especially) to be use and charge only. If I’m using it I don’t want to have to stop in the middle and wait for it to charge. Being able to swap out batteries is always my preference. Thanks for the suggestion 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance since found out the vessel does use a tabbed 18350 cell not a lipo or something exotic so if handy with a solder iron not impossible to swap out at the end of life. The Hitachi also has a multi setting clutch if think may over tighten delicate stuff.
The Bosch GO electric screwdriver is quite popular over here for electrical work. The only problem I have with electric screwdrivers is that the majority of the socket face plates we use have slotted screws, that don't lend themselves to an electric screwdriver too well.
Ours is the same… mostly slotted. (Big debate here if the slot goes vertical or horizontal 😂) I haven’t seen the Bosch option at all. I have seen the Dewalt one where all you have to do is twist your wrist a direction and it will go either forward or reverse, and the Milwaukee M4. I have seen neither in person, but they looked big enough that at that point my M12 tools weren’t much bigger.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have the Dewalt that also bends into a pistol grip. I don't keep it in the tool box in the garage. I keep it in a drawer in the kitchen. It has the most power out of the cordless screwdrivers. I grab this for a lot for tasks around the house. Carrying it around for a job I think you have the better option. In one place the Dewalt all day. Power and long battery life.
@@scotts4125 I was real close to getting one of those awhile back… I would like to try one out and hold it in my hand. Appreciate your thoughts on it 👍
Nothing should be used on a slotted screw but a trash can 😂😂 Noted for next time. That kind of thing is why I leaned away from the high speed. I haven’t used it so I have no idea, but I didn’t want something so fast that keeping it in a fastener was hard to do. Appreciate the feedback 👍
I have the low torque one and I like mine. I use a 1/2” Nut driver a lot so put a socket on it. & yes I have to finish by hand BUT it is saving my wrists
👍… appreciate you sharing your thoughts. It’s either finish it all by hand with a regular screwdriver… or use one of these for the bulk of it and finish a little. I think for certain tasks it will definitely be worth having. Thanks again
Just looking at the Amazon reviews, people seem happier with the slower, low torque version. Which speed do you find yourself using, what is the exact RPMs? Great video, thanks for making it!
I have pretty much left mine on the 400 which is the highest on this one… the lowest setting is 280 which is what the higher torque’s speed is on Amazon US… it’s not a bad speed. Not crazy fast but still better than by hand. The high speeds torque is pretty low, much lower than the lowest setting on this one… I’m not sure I would like it
Appreciate that… I had never even really thought about getting an electric screwdriver that much before. This one just kept staring at me every time I searched Vessel 😂… So this one is my first… maybe I will try out more in the future.
I'm starting to suspect that there are more Morgan's screwdrivers that screws in the world. Maybe it's your goal? It's not the tool I need. Mosty I just use Makita drill drivers. At lower positions of my wishlist there's a Wera Kraftform Turbo - it mechanically quadruples the speed. Very informative video, BTW.
I think screwdrivers are my favorite tools to try out 😂… at least they “usually” aren’t that expensive. I have thought about that WERA before too… I believe I saw it on Millis Construction. Would be nice to get the speed without having to charge the screwdriver. That’s what I’m going to have to figure out if I can get used to more than anything with this one.
I wonder if because of the motor gaining more torque as rpm increases rather than getting lower. If would be you could do some more gearing and have the rpm a lot higher while dropping the torque a little bit
Mine has 3 settings to with different speeds/torque… but they sell options that are either High Speed/low torque or Low speed/high torque I personally would use this tool for drilling, unless maybe a very small pilot hole
Any good alternative, I looking for something like this, an electric screwdriver that has screwdriver shape, on the small side, with speed regulation, with no wabble and magnetic bits that hold screws... I am sking for too much?
I haven’t found any that have a screwdriver shape like this one… that’s why I like it the best. The only other one I bought was a SKIL version that was on sale for Black Friday. It’s good for the price and not crazy big. I made a video for it if you want to see it ua-cam.com/video/rzW4Rw307bs/v-deo.htmlsi=_igGWEkDdkx016u- I don’t like it as much because of the shape, but it’s not bad.
Interesting ; is the amount of runtime actually useful ? I can see it very nice for terminal strips . On low torque , at least it isn’t going to mess up threads !
The only thing I found online was approximate 40 minutes of runtime.. I am sure it is going to vary based on which speed setting you are on and the load you are putting on it. I have only charged mine twice so far, but it wasn’t necessarily dead either time. I haven’t used it for 40 minutes straight. Hopefully some others who have had it longer will chime in. Good Question 👍
You can put whatever bit you want in it if it has the 1/4 shank on it. It just comes with that one bit that I used. It’s removable, not permanent. I actually have been using mine with a Dewalt magnetic bit holder with whatever bit I want.
Which one is better for automotive? Especially dealing with screws threaded into plastic inserts which would have a little more resistance than a screw in metal. Any trade off on getting the 3 speed vs a high speed or high torque?
I don’t have the other two… but the high speed has a lower torque than the lowest setting on this. I would think you would have to hand break/finish everything with it. (I don’t have it so can’t say for sure) The three speed just gives you options if you do delicate work and regular…
Hello from France. I like your vidéo with this New électric screwdriver. I have a question: do you Know Where to find for this tool, for exemple PZ, PH or other in vde for use in electrcity? Thank you for answerd me.
I don’t think Vessel sells an Electric Version that is VDE. They have VDE screwdrivers, just not one that is powered. Wiha has a SpeedEII that is a powered screwdriver and insulated. I don’t have it, but I’ve seen other videos of people using it.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Thank you to answered me. I have Wiha SpeedEii, good product, but battery work no longer, and the screwdriver vde with Wiha, is specific for wiha, and no 1/4 (6,35mm). I don’t find vde screwdriver in any brand. On Amazon France, , on vessel product, they show on picture mouthpiece vde, but they don’t sell them.
@@Lolo-eh6fo the bit that comes with this one has a yellow shaft, but it’s not insulated. It is just a normal bit that so happens to be colored yellow.
Hows the fit in the mp1? I have the mp2 and couldnt pull the trigger on the other 2. But this 3rd option I could justify if it plays well with others in the pouch.
👍… I haven’t seen that one. To be honest it never really crossed my mind to get one, but I kept seeing the Dewalt Gyro one and thought it was neat. I felt like at that size though I would just use my M12 stuff. Then I saw these and thought I might like it to just have an option at the regular screwdriver size. I’m not sure I will use it every day yet… but I know I will for sure use for certain things.
I don’t do entire houses or anything, but I’ve done 25 or so and it didn’t die on me. It seems to be pretty decent so far. I’ve used it here and there since I got it for specific things and only charged it 3 times… but like I said, most of my jobs I’ve used it on haven’t been “all day” jobs. (Ceiling fan blades, door knobs, etc) If I do have those I will normally just carry my installation driver. Maybe some others will chime in as well.
Yeas American bits wiggle. I believe it is 13mm but not 100% sure on that. I made a video about fixing it - Vessel Electric Screwdriver - Simple Fix to make it work with ALL your Bits #tools #electrical ua-cam.com/video/tAWCLWNcgVA/v-deo.html
I want one but not sure if I’d use the first two settings going by your video :/ I want the hi speed for the rpms an some say battery is approximately 4hours if not more so now Im indecisive once again Anyone do hvac work that owns one please chime in some advice…
Mine last for several days of just normal type, every now and then use.. but I have used it a lot in one day too and it’s made it the entire day. I usually charge it after that type of day, so I’m unsure how much more it had in the tank. I think it matters how much torque your screws need. The more it takes, seems like that’s what eats the battery. So plastic electric boxes in my case, take more than metal since the metal are tapped.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Thanks for the response. I'm an electrician (maintenance currently) and picked up the 3 speed version. I put in a piece of 1/4" all-thread so that I can use standard US bits. I'm trying to decide what tasks it's good for. It seems great for trim out, as you said. I have used it to remove old panel covers while a coworker held the cover. Great for that as well.
@@justinkase1360 I have used it for quite a few things. Some things you have to manually start or finish, but everything in between its great. I use on door knobs installs a lot, but my favorite thing is removing old slotted fixture screws that are 20” long 😂
The bits have some play in/out, but when you are pressing into the fastener it stays solid (in my opinion). I didn’t even notice it until people mentioned it. Some people have done different things to get rid of that play in the comments
The gearbox broke on me...I applied too much torque on electrical work. It still works, but one tooth of the gearbox broke and sometimes it slipps, when I want to tighten from hand. Good tool, but for soft work only.
Appreciate the info 👍…. I didn’t mention but this one allows a little more torque by hand than the other two options. According to the chart… I don’t really know if it’s true, but your advice lets me know not to go to town with it 😂
If you mean the 1U like this one amzn.to/44eUMGz It has only one setting. This one (P1) has 3 settings with different speeds and torque. The other ones are either faster speed with lower torque, or lower speeds with higher torque. They only have the one setting.
@@MORGANSMaintenance thank you, I just found the P1 on the US Amazon site, $42, shipping of $20 was waved (said it was free international shipping). Looks like it is coming from Japan
Does it remember the speed/torque setting after it's been off overnight? Or do you have to select the speed each time you start to use it? I've used the Dremel and it has by far the best speed and torque of any I've used but the go button and lack of a locking bit holder make me want to throw it against the wall. I use a Craftsman now. So far it's been the best balance of features but I think the specs on this one look better. I may order one of these. I'm getting arthritis and don't want to stop working with my hands for a living. This makes a big difference on my knuckles by the end of the day.
I know it remembers its setting from the time it turns itself off and you turn it back on… As far as overnight or days later I am not 100% sure, but it has been on the same “solid light” setting every time I’ve used it without changing. So unless that is the default setting it goes back to after many hours, I assume it is staying at that setting. I just changed it to the slow blink and I will check it tomorrow and see. I am the same way these days. I think about using things differently to help me work longer in life (mostly because I enjoy doing it). There are things that I don’t like using impacts/drills for, but I also don’t like twisting a screwdriver all day for… especially over my head. Getting old… or worn out stinks 😂
It took me awhile to figure out how to change it (language barrier)… I assumed that was just a light for the charge/power info. I will probably always have it on the solid setting, maybe if I don’t change it often I won’t get that issue… but time will tell. Thanks for the heads up buddy 👍
I also use the Hazet 810R. The bit holder is amazing and the one way bearing makes it useable on machine screws. And when I add the Rack-A-Tiers 72101 for wire nuts my hands feel 1000% better at the end of a long day wiring overhead.
I would think so.. I would want to get this adjustable one so you have more control and not over tighten… this one on the highest torque setting can be pretty stout on weaker components…. That or the Low Speed version, the torque on that one should be similar to one of the lower settings on this one. That’s just my suggestion, I have only used mine on field type work so far.
@@runngunrc1991 I really like my Wiha precision screwdrivers the most out of the ones I have… the dedicated versions. It’s one of the few Wiha tools I have, but I like them. I use the Klein for my tool bags, just because they are multi bit versions and it saves space. I don’t have many “just bits” when you start getting into the smaller sizes.
It makes you create an entire separate account. You can’t use your USA account info… you can for buying things in the UK, but for some reason not Japan. 🤷♂️ Someone mentioned that they do have them on eBay too… if you don’t want to create an account.
No, my friend bought it… then he asked me to order him one of these after seeing mine. I asked him to bring it to me and let me see it, so I may get to try it out
@@MORGANSMaintenancevery close! It's been a journey! I appreciate your channel so much, especially your truck videos. Probably the best work truck videos on UA-cam. I am building my engine on my truck, then the decked goes in, and the packout boxes will start arriving. I've used your truck (mine is an 05 F250) as my inspiration!
That bit that comes with it isn’t insulated… it’s just yellow. It would be cool to have an insulated end. Only thing I know you could do it use one of those Apex insulated adapters maybe, but those are not friendly for getting into spaces. amzn.to/3OPzQQJ They carry them at Lowes
@@MORGANSMaintenance I was gonna say if that's insulated it's scuffed seen as if you slipped your fingies would touch the metal at the bottom of the shaft
I already own this, but this solidified we have the EXACT same taste in tools. I have never seen a channel that owned all the same tools that I own, it's crazy, subbed!
There is really only one “Great Taste” and we have it 😂
This is my fist video of his _(that I've watched,)_ and I'm already getting the feeling that we're 3 of a kind in that respect.
@@binaryglitch64 Tool Addicts think alike 😂
did we just become best friends?
I bought one 2 months ago, the one with the blue switch, anodized red, best thing i ever owned, just got the 3 speed today, i love it! Every electrician needs one of these.
I agree. I didn’t think I would use it much, but I use it all the time. I like it because it feels like a regular screwdriver. If I’m going to use a big electric screwdriver I’d just use my M12 tools
The micro-USB charing on the high-speed model is enough reason to choose the low-speed higher-torque version.
👍👍.. I don’t have to charge mine often, but usb-c is better
Good design for a wrist-saver that fits in with tools on the belt pouch. Thanks for the info!
That’s what I liked about it… that it is really just a screwdriver that can be a powered one… I wasn’t looking for a bigger tool, my M12 stuff can do all that.
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Nice, the slowest speed is far quicker than my wrist. This little beast is perfect. Thanks for presenting!
Your welcome… personally I feel the same way. I’d rather have more torque and automatic 👍
I just got mine yesterday. Can't wait to try this out on the job. It beats carrying around even my 12v impact.
Just a side note, it uses Japanese style bits that has a longer 13mm anvil which is longer than the American standard. It's worth it to order Japanese bits as well. You'll get a much better fit in the holder.
Yeah I didn’t pay much attention to that till people started mentioning it. Thanks for the heads up.
I did a bunch of electrical work one day, and it’s all I used. Works great for me so far.
Just bought one on Amazon. Its on special. There are a few different types. This looks great. Thanks for your help.
👍👍.. I really like mine. It’s not a M12 drill or anything, but it feels just like using a screwdriver and can save some time & effort
I just ordered one. The speed setting sold me. Should be a good addition to my smaller belt pouch for doing elec. in tight and/or delicate spaces.
I have the same selectable 3 speed version
I've had it for a. Couple months & love it!. It has worked well in several different circumstances . Hope you like it as well!
Yeah… I feel like the speed is what I was kind of looking for without the torque loss.
I feel this is probably the better option over the low speed for sure… I would have to try the high speed and see if the speed would be something that I would prefer.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it with more time with it than me 👍
I used the Apex bits in my Vessel electric Screwdriver it's great for driving screws in PCs without causing damage
Thanks for the tip 👍👍
Great vid mate. Got 1. For the Japanese language guide on the box, used Samsung Bixby vision and translated the image. But your guide is more clear especially with relation to the 3 speed and the slow/fast light effects. thanks
Appreciate that… that was a good idea, some others mentioned using Google Translate, now I know for the next time 😂
Appreciate it 👍👍
I've also been looking at these at Amazon Japan and they advertise short drill bits, I think they only offer two sizes 3 & 4mm, for these for doing things like mounting strike plates. Thanks for the review, I definitely plan on picking one up.
You are welcome 👍👍
great for starting drywall screws, and screwing down yokes & face plates. I turned about 30 electricians green with envy 👍
Yeah I already know one guy that next time I work with him and he sees it… he is going to want one…
It is a new option for me to figure out what all it works best for… since this is my first of this type of screwdriver. It’s been all drills or screwdrivers for me, but there are many things I can see it being good for.
With it being a nice manual screwdriver too, I think I am more likely to have it in my hand.
I also keep it on its medium setting: no point using up battery with the higher torque.
@@wim0104 I may give that a go too 👍
I was researching these again and your video popped up at the top of the list. I couldn’t remember which one was the jack of all. I really want to get this soon. You were talking about not using this for screws on fixtures, but I started thinking that “most” call for about 17-19 lb.in. And I actually use a torque screwdriver to set my fixtures (although that has always seemed to loose to me, I still give it a little extra). I think whenever I get this I’ll have to run an experiment because if this actually sets them to spec it’ll be one less thing to carry around for simple outlets and switches (lugs are a different story.)
Anyway, this video was just as informative the second time around 😂😂😂
Also if you’re carrying around your new Olight Baton 4, you’ve got a cable that’ll charge this up if you’re running low and don’t feel like going back to your truck to charge it😂😂😂
Keep up the good work my friend.
The power bank for the screwdriver is yet another great use for that cable 👍👍
You can use this on anything and if it doesn’t have enough torque to start or finish just use your wrist. That’s what I like about this one, it still feels like a regular vessel screwdriver even in manual mode.
@@MORGANSMaintenance you turned me on to the Vessel brand…I do like the way they fit in your hand. I’ve found a few on the random cheap on Amazon. I got a hold of one of the 8” ceramic ball 5/16” flat blades for $7 shipped from Japan on the US site. Only for about a day and went back to $21.
@@brianhall9019 those ceramic ball tang thru have become my daily drivers for phillips and slotted. I like the weight and grip
@@MORGANSMaintenance I also noticed that the P1 ups the manual Nm from 10 for the other two versions up to 12 Nm. Manually torque a screwdriver to almost 11 lb.ft. Isn’t a really easy task for most
@@brianhall9019 yeah I saw that too… I’ve not just killed mine manually, but I’ve never felt like it was going to break
I was looking at this driver a few days ago, but couldn't find many good English reviews. Thank you
Hope I helped… it was hard for me to figure out all the details of it due to all the info being in Japanese.
Appreciate you watching 👍
Now you can start learning Japanese. It's easy! ((cough))
Using el cheapo screwdrivers from local store, this is perfect, will buy soon. Thanks
👍👍. Hope you like it
My experience with cordless screwdrivers goes as far as the Bosch 4v and I hated that tool. This tool is just the best and it changes everything including the way I see cordless screwdrivers. I started buying those vessel ratcheting screwdrivers and I just found out that the bit extension that came with my set is the exact fit as the ratcheting's, so I can pop the long bit from the ratcheting and insert on the cordless screw driver. Best of both worlds.
I don’t have much experience with them, but I liked how this one basically is just like using a screwdriver (size and shape) it’s not bulky like most of them.
I like it so far… thanks for the tip on the extension 👍
Great video as always. Was looking at the other versions of this screwdriver. Glad to see there is a 3rd and better option. Very informative and descriptive. I love it when I see a new Morgan’s Maintenance video in my inbox.
Yeah for me this is the right fit. I for sure think it’s a better option than the Low Speed… (for me). I am not sure how fast the high speed really is, but this is the type of speed I was looking for.
Appreciate the support my friend 👍
I picked this up after seeing your video. The one thing that I didn’t like was the amount of play when i tried it with non Japanese bits. I solved it by compressing aluminum foil into bit holder until it was thick enough to keep a wera rapidaptor from moving. It lengthens the tool a little bit overall, but the bit removal is now even easier and I can use any of the 25mm bits from my wera toolcheck 😊 I don’t think I’ll ever take the rapidaptor off of this driver. Thanks for the video!
Your welcome 👍.
You are the second one who noticed that.. I didn’t even pay attention to it much until someone brought it up to me, but I had really mostly used the phillips bit that came with it for the most part.
Thanks for the “fix” option
Did it ruin it for using the Vessel bits (I have several) or is the foil removable?
@@unmesh59 don’t do it if you plan to use the vessel bits. It’s definitely removable if you pick it out but not something you’re going to want to do regularly.
@@georgehayesviolin Understood.
I don't have a Rapidaptor but I do have a Wera magnetic bit holder that I tried in my manual Vessel 220W Ball Screwdriver (which came with changeable double ended bits) and it fit snugly.
Should this give me hope for using Wera bits in the 3-speed electric Vessel screwdriver?
Hi again. Hope your having a great weekend. Going over this video again as I have a use case coming up that made me consider it again. (Big fuse board change). I looked on the Dutch amazon and the USA amazon. Finally made a account on the Japan Amazon. As that came out cheaper. Did order a set of PZ2 bit with it as we here in Europe use PZ a lot more then PH bits. Their saying 4 day shipping and I don’t think that’s bad at all coming in all the way from Japan. But one thing my friend. Me following your account is getting expansive 😂 keep up the good work.
I know… I am passing on my tool addiction to others, one tool at a time 😂
You have a great weekend too 👍
I guess there are worse addictions to have. And at least this addiction should help me make money. Unlike some other more unhealthy ones lol. Well that’s what I tell my wife anyway.
@@robholland5925 same here… I don’t spend much money on anything else most people buy. So I tell my wife, I’m saving money 😂
Funny how much alike people can be from countries on the other side of a ocean. Still really don’t understand why your channel ain’t biggen then it is. Seem to me like your doing it right.
@@robholland5925 appreciate that. I’m surprised how big it is. I didn’t really start it expecting it to do well at all. I had zero experience filming and editing.
I figured I will post a couple videos and see what happens. I really like talking with people who are like me, it’s what keeps me going. I work by myself a lot… or with people who aren’t as tool happy as me. This gives me a chance to talk about tools with people that like them the same as me.
So about 4-5 years ago I bought a Chinese made vessel knock off from Amazon. Then I when ahead and got a vessel... It was not as good as the Chinese knock off. Then just last year I got a new Chinese knock off from I believe the same company. The new one only lasted 3 months and I went ahead and got a Craftsman electrical screwdriver. I thought it would be more powerful because it was a 4v but no. I ended just using my Chinese knock off and it's still hanging strong. I don't know why it's better but for some reason that old screwdriver is a champ and it only cost me $31 bucks on Amazon.
That’s why it’s always good to give things a shot. You never know sometimes.
I have a friend who has bought something similar. It looks more like an Annex Screwdriver than a Vessel and he really likes it.
I mainly like the Vessel because it’s also typically what I’m using fur dedicated screwdrivers. That makes it feel the same in my hand. It also has been performing well for me.
Worth looking at the hitachi/hikoki. Had couple years, bit bigger but comes with two replacable batteries so dont get caught short. Plenty of torque. 2 spead. Want the vessel but the non replacable battery after a couple of years is a no go for me. Dont like binning tools
Yeah that’s the one thing I’m not a big fan of either on tools. I don’t like anything that I use (lights especially) to be use and charge only.
If I’m using it I don’t want to have to stop in the middle and wait for it to charge. Being able to swap out batteries is always my preference.
Thanks for the suggestion 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance since found out the vessel does use a tabbed 18350 cell not a lipo or something exotic so if handy with a solder iron not impossible to swap out at the end of life.
The Hitachi also has a multi setting clutch if think may over tighten delicate stuff.
Really glad I found this video and this model!
👍👍 Glad I could help
The Bosch GO electric screwdriver is quite popular over here for electrical work. The only problem I have with electric screwdrivers is that the majority of the socket face plates we use have slotted screws, that don't lend themselves to an electric screwdriver too well.
Ours is the same… mostly slotted. (Big debate here if the slot goes vertical or horizontal 😂)
I haven’t seen the Bosch option at all. I have seen the Dewalt one where all you have to do is twist your wrist a direction and it will go either forward or reverse, and the Milwaukee M4.
I have seen neither in person, but they looked big enough that at that point my M12 tools weren’t much bigger.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have the Dewalt that also bends into a pistol grip. I don't keep it in the tool box in the garage. I keep it in a drawer in the kitchen. It has the most power out of the cordless screwdrivers. I grab this for a lot for tasks around the house. Carrying it around for a job I think you have the better option. In one place the Dewalt all day. Power and long battery life.
@@scotts4125 I was real close to getting one of those awhile back… I would like to try one out and hold it in my hand.
Appreciate your thoughts on it 👍
I would have liked to see it used on a slotted screw. But still really appreciate this and your other reviews!
Nothing should be used on a slotted screw but a trash can 😂😂
Noted for next time. That kind of thing is why I leaned away from the high speed. I haven’t used it so I have no idea, but I didn’t want something so fast that keeping it in a fastener was hard to do.
Appreciate the feedback 👍
I might have to try this out
I like it because it’s pretty much the same size as a regular screwdriver. If I’m going to use a big screwdriver, I’ll just use my M12 Surge.
I have the low torque one and I like mine. I use a 1/2” Nut driver a lot so put a socket on it. & yes I have to finish by hand BUT it is saving my wrists
👍… appreciate you sharing your thoughts. It’s either finish it all by hand with a regular screwdriver… or use one of these for the bulk of it and finish a little.
I think for certain tasks it will definitely be worth having.
Thanks again
Just looking at the Amazon reviews, people seem happier with the slower, low torque version. Which speed do you find yourself using, what is the exact RPMs? Great video, thanks for making it!
I have pretty much left mine on the 400 which is the highest on this one… the lowest setting is 280 which is what the higher torque’s speed is on Amazon US… it’s not a bad speed. Not crazy fast but still better than by hand.
The high speeds torque is pretty low, much lower than the lowest setting on this one… I’m not sure I would like it
@@MORGANSMaintenance I have the craftsman 4v and recently had it in a DeWalt gyroscopic driver review. It’s 300 RPM’s. The gyro is 430 RPMs.
@@projectpinehills I will check that out 👍… I’ve almost bought that Dewalt Gyro multiple times, it looks neat
@@MORGANSMaintenance The only knock on it is the size. I do really like the 4v craftsman.
Great video and a great choice! Would love to see how it compares to the worx 3 speed as far as power and speed.
Appreciate that… I had never even really thought about getting an electric screwdriver that much before. This one just kept staring at me every time I searched Vessel 😂…
So this one is my first… maybe I will try out more in the future.
US Amazon ones use the standard 9mm bit ends where as the Japanese version takes the 13mm.
👍👍. Thanks. I’m wasn’t sure, that’s good to know
I just ordered one just like this. After shipping and cashback etc. cost me about 37 USD.
Nice… that’s a good deal 👍
I'm starting to suspect that there are more Morgan's screwdrivers that screws in the world. Maybe it's your goal?
It's not the tool I need. Mosty I just use Makita drill drivers. At lower positions of my wishlist there's a Wera Kraftform Turbo - it mechanically quadruples the speed.
Very informative video, BTW.
I think screwdrivers are my favorite tools to try out 😂… at least they “usually” aren’t that expensive.
I have thought about that WERA before too… I believe I saw it on Millis Construction. Would be nice to get the speed without having to charge the screwdriver. That’s what I’m going to have to figure out if I can get used to more than anything with this one.
I wonder if because of the motor gaining more torque as rpm increases rather than getting lower. If would be you could do some more gearing and have the rpm a lot higher while dropping the torque a little bit
Mine has 3 settings to with different speeds/torque… but they sell options that are either High Speed/low torque or Low speed/high torque
I personally would use this tool for drilling, unless maybe a very small pilot hole
also, I'm so friggin tired of USB-B/micro. P1 using type C really makes it over the top the best choice here, imo.
Several people mentioned that they didn’t like that on the other ones before I bought mine. 👍👍
I already have a type C in my bag, in my car, and in my pocket half the time lol, it just makes sense.
Spot on 👍🏼
Appreciate it 👍
Any good alternative, I looking for something like this, an electric screwdriver that has screwdriver shape, on the small side, with speed regulation, with no wabble and magnetic bits that hold screws... I am sking for too much?
I haven’t found any that have a screwdriver shape like this one… that’s why I like it the best.
The only other one I bought was a SKIL version that was on sale for Black Friday. It’s good for the price and not crazy big. I made a video for it if you want to see it ua-cam.com/video/rzW4Rw307bs/v-deo.htmlsi=_igGWEkDdkx016u-
I don’t like it as much because of the shape, but it’s not bad.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I will watch it. Thanks for the reply!
Interesting ; is the amount of runtime actually useful ? I can see it very nice for terminal strips . On low torque , at least it isn’t going to mess up threads !
The only thing I found online was approximate 40 minutes of runtime..
I am sure it is going to vary based on which speed setting you are on and the load you are putting on it.
I have only charged mine twice so far, but it wasn’t necessarily dead either time. I haven’t used it for 40 minutes straight.
Hopefully some others who have had it longer will chime in. Good Question 👍
High Speed, high torque you could do after by hand.
👍 True
I can think of several uses for it but not with a PH2 tip. Do they make one that takes a 1/4" hex bit?
You can put whatever bit you want in it if it has the 1/4 shank on it. It just comes with that one bit that I used. It’s removable, not permanent.
I actually have been using mine with a Dewalt magnetic bit holder with whatever bit I want.
Which one is better for automotive? Especially dealing with screws threaded into plastic inserts which would have a little more resistance than a screw in metal. Any trade off on getting the 3 speed vs a high speed or high torque?
I don’t have the other two… but the high speed has a lower torque than the lowest setting on this. I would think you would have to hand break/finish everything with it. (I don’t have it so can’t say for sure)
The three speed just gives you options if you do delicate work and regular…
Them wera ball grips 🤤
Yeah, there are an online places in the US you can get them now. Hopefully before long they will be easier to get
@MORGANSMaintenance my searches have not yielded any results.
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Hello from France. I like your vidéo with this New électric screwdriver. I have a question: do you Know Where to find for this tool, for exemple PZ, PH or other in vde for use in electrcity? Thank you for answerd me.
I don’t think Vessel sells an Electric Version that is VDE. They have VDE screwdrivers, just not one that is powered.
Wiha has a SpeedEII that is a powered screwdriver and insulated. I don’t have it, but I’ve seen other videos of people using it.
@@MORGANSMaintenance
Thank you to answered me. I have Wiha SpeedEii, good product, but battery work no longer, and the screwdriver vde with Wiha, is specific for wiha, and no 1/4 (6,35mm). I don’t find vde screwdriver in any brand. On Amazon France, , on vessel product, they show on picture mouthpiece vde, but they don’t sell them.
@@Lolo-eh6fo the bit that comes with this one has a yellow shaft, but it’s not insulated. It is just a normal bit that so happens to be colored yellow.
Hows the fit in the mp1? I have the mp2 and couldnt pull the trigger on the other 2. But this 3rd option I could justify if it plays well with others in the pouch.
It fits in the side slots that are open on the bottom really well. That one or the main biggest one.
I have the Dremel electric screwdriver
👍… I haven’t seen that one.
To be honest it never really crossed my mind to get one, but I kept seeing the Dewalt Gyro one and thought it was neat. I felt like at that size though I would just use my M12 stuff.
Then I saw these and thought I might like it to just have an option at the regular screwdriver size. I’m not sure I will use it every day yet… but I know I will for sure use for certain things.
I just bought this tool and it didn't come with the driver bit. WTH?
They have a lot of versions. Did you get it from Amazon Japan?
What’s the battery life for using High/Low speed doing say all this boxes all day.
I don’t do entire houses or anything, but I’ve done 25 or so and it didn’t die on me.
It seems to be pretty decent so far. I’ve used it here and there since I got it for specific things and only charged it 3 times… but like I said, most of my jobs I’ve used it on haven’t been “all day” jobs. (Ceiling fan blades, door knobs, etc) If I do have those I will normally just carry my installation driver.
Maybe some others will chime in as well.
@@MORGANSMaintenance thanks
Bit size to lock… is it 11mm? Does American bits wiggle?
Yeas American bits wiggle. I believe it is 13mm but not 100% sure on that.
I made a video about fixing it - Vessel Electric Screwdriver - Simple Fix to make it work with ALL your Bits #tools #electrical
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I want one but not sure if I’d use the first two settings going by your video :/ I want the hi speed for the rpms an some say battery is approximately 4hours if not more so now Im indecisive once again
Anyone do hvac work that owns one please chime in some advice…
Hopefully someone can help you out… I have not seen the high speed in person to be able to tell how much faster it really is.
@@MORGANSMaintenance yea hopefully but I may just order this one due to your video you have the best unboxing by far thanks! Liked!
How did you buy it from AMZ Japan? It's requiring me to create a new account. Doesn't recognize my AMZ us account
It is a separate account for some reason.. Amazon UK is not… but Japan is 🤷♂️
How long will it last? I mainly want it because it's the size of a normal screwdriver....
Mine last for several days of just normal type, every now and then use.. but I have used it a lot in one day too and it’s made it the entire day. I usually charge it after that type of day, so I’m unsure how much more it had in the tank.
I think it matters how much torque your screws need. The more it takes, seems like that’s what eats the battery. So plastic electric boxes in my case, take more than metal since the metal are tapped.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Thanks for the response. I'm an electrician (maintenance currently) and picked up the 3 speed version. I put in a piece of 1/4" all-thread so that I can use standard US bits. I'm trying to decide what tasks it's good for. It seems great for trim out, as you said. I have used it to remove old panel covers while a coworker held the cover. Great for that as well.
@@justinkase1360 I have used it for quite a few things. Some things you have to manually start or finish, but everything in between its great. I use on door knobs installs a lot, but my favorite thing is removing old slotted fixture screws that are 20” long 😂
These screwdrivers are going to be in the ER more often than they will be in the tool box.
Just depends on what you use them for… if you don’t over work then I think they are good. I really like mine so far…. But time will tell
How's the play using american 1/4 inch bits?
The bits have some play in/out, but when you are pressing into the fastener it stays solid (in my opinion). I didn’t even notice it until people mentioned it.
Some people have done different things to get rid of that play in the comments
The gearbox broke on me...I applied too much torque on electrical work. It still works, but one tooth of the gearbox broke and sometimes it slipps, when I want to tighten from hand.
Good tool, but for soft work only.
Appreciate the info 👍…. I didn’t mention but this one allows a little more torque by hand than the other two options.
According to the chart… I don’t really know if it’s true, but your advice lets me know not to go to town with it 😂
@@MORGANSMaintenance It is the USB-Type C option with 3 speeds.
@@Raphael_Hofmann 👍
what's the difference between the P1 and the U1?
If you mean the 1U like this one amzn.to/44eUMGz
It has only one setting. This one (P1) has 3 settings with different speeds and torque.
The other ones are either faster speed with lower torque, or lower speeds with higher torque. They only have the one setting.
@@MORGANSMaintenance thank you, I just found the P1 on the US Amazon site, $42, shipping of $20 was waved (said it was free international shipping). Looks like it is coming from Japan
@markusr1308 👍👍. They may be selling on US now.. they weren’t when I bought mine.
I really like mine
Does it drill ? could we see it drilling with different drill bits and sizes
I wouldn’t think so. I am out of town this weekend, but I will try that when I get back home and see.
Maybe someone else will answer before then.
@MORGAN'S Maintenance you get hex shank drills, and I think hex shank drill chuck, think I bought one for my stanley yankee
Yeah I have some hex shank drill bits that should fit in it. I think that it will likely stop because of too much torque, but I will see.
I made a video today, hope it helps
Vessel 220USB P1 - Will it Drill? #tools #maintenance #vessel #screwdriver
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Can i get this 3 speed version on Amazon Canada?
When I bought mine it was only on Amazon Japan (or eBay), but I’m not sure now… it’s been a little while.
Does it remember the speed/torque setting after it's been off overnight? Or do you have to select the speed each time you start to use it?
I've used the Dremel and it has by far the best speed and torque of any I've used but the go button and lack of a locking bit holder make me want to throw it against the wall.
I use a Craftsman now. So far it's been the best balance of features but I think the specs on this one look better. I may order one of these. I'm getting arthritis and don't want to stop working with my hands for a living. This makes a big difference on my knuckles by the end of the day.
I know it remembers its setting from the time it turns itself off and you turn it back on…
As far as overnight or days later I am not 100% sure, but it has been on the same “solid light” setting every time I’ve used it without changing.
So unless that is the default setting it goes back to after many hours, I assume it is staying at that setting. I just changed it to the slow blink and I will check it tomorrow and see.
I am the same way these days. I think about using things differently to help me work longer in life (mostly because I enjoy doing it). There are things that I don’t like using impacts/drills for, but I also don’t like twisting a screwdriver all day for… especially over my head.
Getting old… or worn out stinks 😂
the user's setting is sticky
It took me awhile to figure out how to change it (language barrier)… I assumed that was just a light for the charge/power info.
I will probably always have it on the solid setting, maybe if I don’t change it often I won’t get that issue… but time will tell.
Thanks for the heads up buddy 👍
I also use the Hazet 810R. The bit holder is amazing and the one way bearing makes it useable on machine screws. And when I add the Rack-A-Tiers 72101 for wire nuts my hands feel 1000% better at the end of a long day wiring overhead.
I will have to check those out… Rack-a-Tiers makes some neat stuff 👍
Would these be good with precision bits ?Working on Terminals.
I would think so.. I would want to get this adjustable one so you have more control and not over tighten… this one on the highest torque setting can be pretty stout on weaker components…. That or the Low Speed version, the torque on that one should be similar to one of the lower settings on this one.
That’s just my suggestion, I have only used mine on field type work so far.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Appreciate the feedback. Any recommendations for precision screwdrivers an bits.?Thank you in advance.
@@runngunrc1991 I really like my Wiha precision screwdrivers the most out of the ones I have… the dedicated versions. It’s one of the few Wiha tools I have, but I like them.
I use the Klein for my tool bags, just because they are multi bit versions and it saves space.
I don’t have many “just bits” when you start getting into the smaller sizes.
Opened an amazon Japan account but it says it won't ship to US, what do I do?
It says the same thing for me. They must have low stock.. you may have to check back. The do have some on eBay right now.
Just bought it on ebay, thanks
What type of battery does it use and has anyone tried to replace one?
It’s a 3.6V Lithium-Ion is all the packaging says… I haven’t tried the replacing, so hopefully someone else will answer and be able to help out.
18350 and easily replaceable
I cannot sign into Amazon Japan at all.
It makes you create an entire separate account. You can’t use your USA account info… you can for buying things in the UK, but for some reason not Japan. 🤷♂️
Someone mentioned that they do have them on eBay too… if you don’t want to create an account.
When i bought my vessel stuff i used google lens to read the box
Yeah that’s a good idea… I never think about using the translator on my phone
Have you tried the Craftsman one?
No, my friend bought it… then he asked me to order him one of these after seeing mine.
I asked him to bring it to me and let me see it, so I may get to try it out
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm very tempted to grab it at my Ace Hardware. And for nothing else then to have another tool to review on my channel
@@MaddawgEDC 👍… you are getting close to the 1000 subs 💪
@@MORGANSMaintenancevery close! It's been a journey!
I appreciate your channel so much, especially your truck videos. Probably the best work truck videos on UA-cam. I am building my engine on my truck, then the decked goes in, and the packout boxes will start arriving. I've used your truck (mine is an 05 F250) as my inspiration!
@@MaddawgEDC 👍… I will have a part 3 hopefully coming soon
I got mine on ebay 46 $
👍👍.. nice
I would surely buy this with an insulated end so I do blow that thing out live.
That bit that comes with it isn’t insulated… it’s just yellow. It would be cool to have an insulated end. Only thing I know you could do it use one of those Apex insulated adapters maybe, but those are not friendly for getting into spaces.
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They carry them at Lowes
@@MORGANSMaintenance I was gonna say if that's insulated it's scuffed seen as if you slipped your fingies would touch the metal at the bottom of the shaft
Yeah their marketing goes to great lengths to say it’s not… I can see why some people might think it would be.
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@@JeffreyTronzo-k5r have no idea what that means 🤷♂️