Top 7 Toyota MR2 Myths You Might Still Believe
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"Aftermarket Snorkels"
This myth is not the way you think it is and it does start to frustrate me at times:
The MR2 is not designed for air to be sucked up from under the engine to exit the engine lid.
This has, already, been proven so I am unsure why it still perpetuates.
The engine lid is designed for aesthetics, not function. It does not require air blowing over it, only the radiator does, which is in the front.
There is ~always~ turbulence in the engine bay because there is no path for the air to follow. For smooth transfer of fluid, the fluid requires an entrance, a path and an exit.
The vehicle is designed, strictly, to catch air in from the side scoops, the majority of which is evacuated under the vehicle to the back. Due to a square design at the rear end, the air then swirls upward causing more turbulence. This is why if you have an oil leak, the swirling upward air causes your rear bumper and tail lights to slowly be spattered with oil
A scoop does not add or detract from performance. It, simply, has no perceptible effect.
Note that the engine lid has a rain guard with only two openings. Meant for rain to drain and land in specific areas, avoiding important components. (Originally meant to not wet the alternator, but said alternator location was later moved to be directly under the opening, causing early failing).
These opening are not meant to evacuate air and do not do so.
Places that sell fans carefully word their product to say that it "cools the engine bay", not the engine itself. If I were to put the engine in a wind tunnel, alone, with no coolant, and blast the wind at full, the engine would still overheat.
The only way to cool the engine is with coolant, which requires that the radiator be blasted with air, nothing else.
I, personally, believe that this myth is the most "number 1" myth of the MR2.
It is not designed for air to come from underneath and out the lid.
People also mention snap oversteer: This is not an MR2 problem. This is a midengine problem.
Any vehicle with the majority of its weight behind the center will behave this way.
Ahh. My inspiration. Just bought my mr2 a month ago :)
Congrats!
That's awesome!!! Hope you are enjoying it.
I’m in negotiations right now can’t wait to see what happens.
great stuff from one of the most famous 2's on the planet, mine is off getting the same shade of red put on it at the moment! another misconception is upgrading the discs and calipers, absolutely no need unless you're planning entering le mans or something
Good point and much appreciated!
I've owned my sw20 for 16 years. When I was modifying my motor the engine builder I was speaking to explained how they were made at the same time, with the same technology as the 2jz, as such I've left my bottom end untouched and it's been making 500hp for over 5 years
The snorkel was originally made to have a sealed air box around the intake air filter. But those air boxes are very rare.
Yup, the Tom's ones did. But now the MR2 community is filled with cheap knock off parts
Dude this is the cleanest mr2 I've ever seen
Thanks!
As a retired Toyota mechanic I was horrified when I saw the first snorkel kit installed and immediately connected them with those non-functional hood scoops from the late 70's just another fashion over function marketing scam... ya know there's one born every minute.
VERY useful! I’m going to look at a turbo mr2 tomorrow. Will be using your buyers guide
Hope it works out for you!
Did u get the car?
Wonderful video sir, I can't wait to get one of these, I have always loved this generation MR2. Selling yours?
dope video, what front lip are you running?
I agree with everything bar the snorkels. yep they don't give more HP but they help to reduce laminar air flow in the engine bay which, in my case, decreased engine bay temp around 3 or 4 degrees celsius. I wish I could remember the complete figures but it was around 8 years ago I got a pair for really cheap. BTW you have a great looking MR2 there! Mine has been my daily driver for over 10 years now so she is looking a bit rough.
I've owned 4. A pristine '85 when I was 19. A black '91. A sweet '91 with a V6 swap (probably the sweetest one) and I currently own an 830hp kswapped '93. That thing is 😱. Almost to the point that I regret building it. Feels like driving a space shuttle booster with 2 seats on the street. But it gets attention like you wouldn't believe and makes you feel like a rock star.
I'm 36 and I've never heard anyone pronounce Celica like you do and now I'm questioning everything.
Maybe it's a Canadian thing but it always sounds weird to me when people pronounce it the other way. We also buy milk in bags though so who knows
I think rather than just a Canadian thing, it’s a rest of the world thing, only ever heard Americans call it a ‘Sell i ka’
Long live the 2, I’ve now got a second generation loving them too👍🤪
One other point.
Don’t forget, Yamaha virtually hand built all the 3sgte motors and the Rev2 onwards had the improved head gasket, so more boost in standard trim, with your bleed valve and fcd. 🌬💨
It's how we say it in NZ. And if you hear Japanese say it it sounds like this as well.
He's pronouncing it correctly... we all say it wrong... Even in Japan they pronounce it that way... It comes from the word celestial...
Where did you get that hood lid in the back? Been trying to find one of those thanks!
Nice Mr2, I really like your rims. Where do you buy your rims?
Snap oversteer is mostly drivers error. Having so much weight in the rear just makes it more violent. Pair that with a steering rack that isnt as quick as a lot of other sports cars, PLUS being stock from factory with such tiny tires and no staggered (if im not mistaken) setup....yea a bit dangerous for the first owners who bought them brand new back then🤣. Suspension wasn't stiff enough either for it either back then in the early 90's (then the little imperfections with the Suspension geometry).
It is staggered 195s in the front and 205s in the rear (I believe)
@@alexs6485 93+ had 195 front 225 rear
just bought mine yesterday. JDM RHD version, gonna be interesting
3S-GTE is in the JTCC Castrol Supra and Mk1 MR2 follows closely to a FiAT.
there’s no way you can just hope for the best. There has to be a way to master the corners bro. Any advice besides hope for the best and have quick hands? 😹
Let go of throttle in a sharp turn or feather it to maintain current speed. Whatever speed you have chosen is committed once in the pull of the turn.
Hitting the breaks will take weight off the rear wheels risking oversteer. If oversteer occurs, immediately hit the clutch pedal to release the wheels from the engine while trying to correct with the steering wheel. Make this a reflex action: "If spinning out, immediately hold down clutch pedal until it is over). This will cause the vehicle to want to correct. Hitting the gas pedal will do the opposite, it will spin the rear wheels harder and make the vehicle want to turn more sideways. (this is how "drifers add more "sideways" during a drift, they hit the gas pedal to spin those wheels)
Advanced: If the vehicle is almost corrected, gentle gas pedal pressure will expediate correcting. (This only applies to transmissions that have no LSD)
When cornering with this vehicle, pretend you are racing with a limousine that has cinder blocks in the trunk. Keep that idea in your head to help train the way you behave.
@@user-or1xh1vc8n whoa thanks bro great comment
@@Idhrennielful No problem
Nice ride! Well put on the fact that all cars have their limits, at least 90s cars. Didn't need all the beeps and flashing lights back then, you needed to have the reflex and get to know your car. Imagine a Hellcat with just 90s ABS lol.
"Hellcat with no computers? That's insane."
-Kevin Hart
Great video! Your mr2 looks amazing. What are the specs on your wheels?
Thanks, they're 18x7.5 +22 and 18x9 +35
Great video, For the practical section you missed the storage bins behind the seats but other than that it was spot on.
Good call! One of mine is covered up by a subwoofer so I forgot about it
@Canadian Gearhead like your stared in the video you can definitely tell it's a Toyota, way over engineered, quality parts that last a long time, and tons of fore thought in the design, Toyota in the 90's was really at the top of there game.
Thanks for making the video, and it's awesome to see a passionate owner.
Friggin mint bud!! (insert horrible Alberta accent here) Seriously, those MR2s were a lot of fun. Every 16yo should have one.
if we could still find them for cheap lmao. i’ve been looking and the lowest is a little under 10k that i’ve seen
@@natesenft5376 you can get fixer uppers for under $1000, but something as clean as his car is big money
@@KrashKan yeah i can’t find anything under 8000 even shitty condition ones
@@natesenft5376 damn. i bought my mr2 for $600 and just got it running this past weekend. best thing to do is look around you for cars that are sitting in people's driveways/yards that could be saved.
@@KrashKan Hm, yeah that’s a good idea. I live in southwest ohio. I don’t know if that makes a difference.
Cleanest mr2 I’ve seen , nice job!
Thanks Paul!
Beyond clean Sir!
Thanks!
Paintwork looks amazing 👌is it an original paint colour or did you change it?
Thanks, it's the original Crimson red
That is the same engine they used in the Tercell ( parts for it are the same too) the only difference, is the 16 valve head and the turbo they slap on there.. They have a lot of problems, oil leaks everywhere.
I bought a 1991 MR2 2 weeks ago and car delivered a couple of days ago . It has a carbon fiber fan shroud with a fan for engine bay. It pretty much looks like yours. Problem I noticed water entering to engine bay after Rain !!! Is it normal? Need advice 😪
Yeah most aftermarket fan shrouds replace the factory rain drainage tray so unfortunately that's normal
if you were to start your next project what car would it be?
I've always wanted a Supra but prices just aren't reasonable any more. I'd probably switch it up and do a 70's Mopar for something different
Mind sharing your wheels setup?
18x7.5 and 18x9 Volk SF Challenge
Dream car there.hope 1 day i can buy 1.nice video btw.
Thanks for watching!
Always btw new subscriber.
idk where you’re hearing 30-40mpg 😂
20-30, If you push it!
Had one for 6 years, non turbo. 33mpg no matter how I drove it. Guy next door copied my purchase, but with a Turbo. Same mpg - I drove them back to back!
I get 47mpg hw and 35combined on myh 90' non-turbo. How do you guys drive your car lol?
Sorry that's for UK mpg. For American I get 40mpg hw and 30 combined.
Incredible car bro. I own 2 mr2s. I love the aftermarket world of building these cars. But... can you drive it🤔🤔🤔 is the question. Mr2 owners, we have a piece of history here. Enjoy!!!!!
where can i get your intake manifold?:?? pls tell me its still available....
yup air flow goes from under veh thru the hood. correct
a ton of these misconceptions shouldnt really apply to it. drive like its a FF and youll get into trouble.... it isnt used are a "hauler" its a sports veh. same way you wouldnt use a dodge caravan and say that it doesnt handle like your lotus. general populace are dumb
also very nice build.
It's from KU Engineering a long time ago
What wheels are those?
Volk GTS
I wish people would not say firewall as it is a bulkhead.
Its frustrating how the first and second gen have such a big trunk, but the 3rd gen has none.
Yes you can drift an MR2
The nits who say the engines suck probably pick the Tom's Castrol Supra whenever they play Gran Turismo...
0m01s "I've been missing the mr2 lately and since obviously i'm not gonna be able to drive it anytime soon"
3m30s "they are quite livable day to day"
Good mileage, toyota reliability... I told my wife the same crap, but you and I both know they are basically a motorcycle that takes up half the garage.
The video is about MR2s in general, not my 400hp car with rubber bands for tires. Of course I'm not driving it in the middle of winter.
They are faster than NSX and Ferrari BUT not with you at the driver's seat and needs to be in RHD plus only in Tsukuba.
This 7 myth are for US only. Other part of the world, it makes gud daily and u go and get a Honda if u want a K20/K24.
K swap and LS swap is not done in south east asia coz of engine tax and our exchange rate to USD is a joke. That is why we are over pricing every used parts to be sent to USA/UK.
my '93 n/a mr2 is not fuel efficient💀 i gotta fuel up every like 4-5 days
you lost me at 800 hp fairly reliably.
Lol yeah. 350 maybe
And it's true Ferrari copy Toyota for his car and Ferrari call Honda and ask Honda how do they make the cars anyways I love your car
i think they were rated for 25-30 not 35-40
You're right, the EPA rated a 93 turbo at 28 MPG on the highway. I'm sure tuned cars like mine can easily hit mid 30s but I was forgetting how rich these run from the factory
Yes he pronounces Celica the correct way, as we do in UK
How often do people ask you if its a Ferrari? I used to own a Ferrari 355, and with this kit, it sure looks like one. But I must say, I think this MR2 is actually better looking than my Ferrari
It insane how unloved the mr2 was, up until recently. Im guessing it was because in the 90's and 2000's all enthusiasts generally seemed to only care about was 0-60 times and HP numbers. But now that cars like the Hellcat exist, enthusiast are looking for driving feel and handling, first most. Reason why the miata has shot up in popularity too.
Probably numbers mattered a lot but to have fun in a fast car, you are breaking the speed limit. To have fun in say a Miata, it's more handling than power
Nice poo barge mate!