Becasue Jews believe they have manifest destiny like every religious zealot in history taking over and killing in the name of their god . Not just targeting Jews just look at the crusades it’s a sad mentality
Because that’s not what Hamas wants - and they’re the elected leaders. Their entire mission is to destroy Jews, they openly say it. If Palestine truly wanted peace and equality, they wouldn’t have rejected multiple treaties for peace and land division over the years.
You don't understand what's going on over there. Sure you all love the people on the Palestine side who send bombs on balloons that kill children. It's not peace that Palestine wants.
Since 1947 there have been 5 attempts at peace and equality between Israelis and Palestinians and all have been rejected by Palestinians. Kinda feels like Palestinians don't want peace
You are WRONG. How can you think killing THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Palestinians is somehow good for the region? Hamas is NOT all Palestinians! JEwish Overreaction, beyond any reasonable excuse.
@@juniorbayano4938are u mentally stable? Have u ever communicated with someone from 🇵🇸? I have with teenage and people 20 y old. During our conversation they told me how everything is jew people fault and how they hate them for what they did. A lot of people living in Gaza are brainwashed and have a hatred. Hatred cause violence and plows hatred. My opinion - both of the sides are wrong, but everyone wants to somebody in this situation be right…
The irony is that the Israelis are not even the Semitic people. The Semitic people are the people of Shem/Sem, one of the sons of Noah. The children of Shem are the brown Asians. The white Israelis (and Palestinians) are children of Japheth. So they are not Semitic or not the people of Shem.
I mean in UK universities everyone specialises in one subject so it could be the case she’s like a physics student who hasn’t done any history whatsoever since 14
@@krishvids608so she’s incapable of educating herself on the most devastating war in human history? I cannot believe you just made that excuse on her behalf 😂. And you gave the example of her being 14 the last time she studied history, let’s say she’s 22 now that means she’s had almost a DECADE to learn I mean she has google, she has libraries, she has friends and family so really you should keep your mouth closed okay my friend.
@@rubyshah4543 It's not that Israelis don't WANT to live in Gaza, they CAN'T. Read the book "From Time Immemorial" to find out how many Jews lived in Arab and Muslim countries before 1948, and how many live in those countries now. Palestinians can travel and work in Israel. Israelis are FORBIDDEN to enter Area A of the PA controlled West Bank. Apartheid Israel? No. Apartheid Gaza, yes!
@@sabeersid4645 given what happens when Islam becomes the dominant religion in a country? I'm inclined to say I'd prefer Israel to another theocratic authoritarian state that executes gays and tortures/taxes anyone of another faith
@@sabeersid4645 At this point, what Israel has is Israeli land, it’s been in Israeli hands for over 50 years, and 1-2 generations of Israelis have been born and raised there. Like sucks to suck for the Palestinian but we aren’t going to just deport every jew back to Europe at this point, they are going to have to be satisfied with the West Bank and Gaza.
Except what about the millions of Palestinians living in Palestine? They’re not allowed in Israel, and their living conditions are horrific. And the perpetrators ARE the Israeli government. They’re the ones pouring cement over their water supplies and throwing humanitarian aid into the ocean.
@user-pf3ey1cg1t when Muslims went from mecca to medina half of medina was Jews and they lived peacefully until Jews broke thier agreement. When Muslims expanded they lived with christians
There are things such as crocodile tears, I'm not saying i don't sympathize with the children suffering in Palestine, but I believe Hamas is hiding behind the normal citizebs
Bruh such an idiotic statement ppl like you know think this conflict started on October 7th " if palestine didn't attack they wouldn't be crying." Firstly u used palestine instead of gaza which already shows your lack of understanding about the situation, so let me clarify there are 2 palestines Gaza and the west bank These 2 are both ruled by separate government, fatah for west Bank and khamas for gaza , we don't need to say " If palestine didn't attack they wouldn't be crying " bec the west bank has already showed us what would happen , like 90% of the west bank has been captured and illegally settled, and in the muslim areas ppl live under constant oppression , THEY DONT EVEN GET ENOUGH WATER FOR A WEEK Now did the west bank attack isreal ? No they were peaceful but isreal still attacked them , now I'd like you to plz explain how the innocent ppl of west bank are wrong and if u can that justifies hamaz's attack
@@UGALEE1 It’s in the idea of tolerance. One day Muslims can knock ✊ them doors and say pay tax for living convert to Islam or die. It’s happening in our eyes
"You can have a state where you can get equal rights for Jews and Muslim" And HAMAS like "Choose one, Israel gone we live, or We gone Israel live" Such hypocrisy
No Israel are fascist invaders! Palestine is fighting against their invaders! That's historical fact like a man is a man and a woman is a woman! The Jews turned into Nazis!
Nah, that is her point. He's highlighting that she's not being honest with the audience. What moron thinks that Jews would live peaceful under Hamas rule. These people are out of their minds
for real man this guy legit just talks fast and interrupts people to make it seem like he's right. would love to see him debate someone whos not in college
@@tusharsing5368 no he’s not he just talks really fast and controls the situation this is why majority of right wing influencers only debate kids bc they know they can’t beat actual leftist in actual debates
The usual "Apatheid" complaint against jews is your better point? Not one factual or historical argument that I have seen from pro-Palestine groups other than emotional manipulation
@@SUD7117 Nobody wants to put up with these chomos, what part of that don't u get? Invite these Israeli low lives into your house if you love them so much.
She wanted all in the area to live together regardless of faith or ethnicity. He calls her genocidal. He can talk as fast as he likes - you cant gloss over that one.
@@Rain649 "A part of the world who constantly at war" hmmm let's see: Iraqi war was against USA a foreign country Afghanistan war same thing Lybia war against nato the army of Europe a foreign continent Palestine vs Israel war started just after the émigration of European/American jews to it and was backed up by them Every single war that happened in there was because Europe/USA aka the Democratic west
I agree her intent is actually pure and she would like to see all living together in and in unity, but unfortunately Jews will be completely WIPED or slaughtered in israel the SECOND They attempt a 1 state solution and open up their borders to any palestinian. The Jews chose life in this situation..
If you are an arab with Israeli citizenship, you have equal rights in israel. If you are an Israeli jew and just so happen to work in Gaza, I wonder what would happen?
Because they dont understand the positions of the people involed in the in this conflict. Hamas Is the most extreme stands on the Muslim religion. Not only do they want the full eradication of jews from the region but also gays, lesbians and all others who are not muslim.
There is a large Muslim Arab population in Isreal, all of whom have equal rights and a better quality of life then they would in any Arab Muslim country, the same cannot be said of jews living in Muslim countries. It's hilarious that you think it's simply that Ben shapiro doesn't want Muslims and jews to live together peacefully when the only state in the middle east where they do live peacefully is within the borders of Isreal.
Then you are calling for your own sui.. ide. How foolish. Sahih al-Bukhari 2926 "Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." Sahih Muslim 1767 a It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah say: "I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.""(he wants to expel people from their own homes and country) Sunan an-Nasa'i 3974 "The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight the people until they say La ilaha illallah, and whoever says it, his life and his wealth are safe from me, except for a right that is due, and his reckoning will be with Allah." Sahih al-Bukhari 2977(muhammad says "I have been made victorious with terror") so thats why islam considered to be ter.. st belief. 5: 51 "O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust." Sahih al-Bukhari 4557(the best of mankind are those who put chains on neck to embrace islam)
@@kevinforget549it hurts to see, and what makes it even worse is that its come to a point where one side has to be fully wiped out for this *if we’re calling it war* to end.
@@user-zf3yr8vc5e Not invading other countries, thereby causing a never-ending cycle of violence where each side wants to get revenge for the last battle. If the west hadn't invaded Palestine, 9/11 wouldn't have happened, if 9/11 didn't happen the Iraq war wouldn't have happened, if the Iraq war didn't happen ISIS wouldn't have existed, if ISIS didn't exist millions of lives would've been saved from terror attacks, and so on and so forth.
@@Jehrb So he’s ‘stating a fact’ that he doesn’t want peace? What does he wanna do then, kill every Palestinian like they’re already trying to do?? How is he so great for saying that when he’s supporting genocide. He throws around the term anti semitic when he’s chatting bs rather than ‘facts’ bcs Palestinians are literally Semitic themselves. So trust me he don’t know what he’s talking about, he’s the one being delusional. Yk what’s funnier, she’s not being delusional because Christian’s, Muslims and Jewish ppl all actually lived in peace on the land until Zionism and how they illegally built up on land. So the idea isn’t so random to mention
My men you are not in the position of understanding of what’s happening, funny thing is that Jerusalem has Muslims Christian’s and Jews presented and in Israel you can choose to have any religion or not having one at all. From other point, have you seen a lot of not Muslim people in Arab states, specifically Palestine? And if yes - do you think that they have equal rights?
@@beydonce763he is literally accusing of her of genocidal intent. He only argues against kids hes ridiculous, she literally calling for peace and hes there accusing of her this
@@beydonce763its funny how he clqims to be jewish but ignores the rules of the torah. Maybe if hed shut his mouth and acc listened to her then hed know hes wrong as she has mentioned nothing of her supporting any part of any genocidal as she said she isnt calling for any destruction of jews. He literally makes no sense. Him tryna talk fast is him tryna cover up the fact hes wrong. He makes no sense here at all. Hes the hugest clown ever. Id love to see him talk against bassem yousuf lmfao
No, you clearly didnt watch the whole argument, and when youre saying "he only argues with kids" everyone who were in building could have argue with him. stop with the bullshit@@g3_lden
@@ILoveAllah50 brother I'm muslim too and im talking about Ben shapiro 💀, also advice from an Egyptian myself who knows the political background of bassem youssef: don't idolise him, he's a secularist and was part of the media war that overthrew a democratically elected islamic government by spewing lies, respect his position, not him
Israel fought against 7 Muslim countries at the same time? If they didn't get any help, Jews would have gone through a second genocide. Israel and Palestine has been quite chill for a while until Hamas decided to send some missiles. I'm not defending on killing innocent civilians, but just think for a second. Before you comment, I just want to clear out that my comments intention was to bring some objective views on the table. I'm not taking any sides. Many people commenting seem very biased and that's very understandable considering that innocent people die. But in history, you should always try to look at things from an objective point of view because every side thinks they're doing the right thing and the other side is evil. It's all about the view.
Ben is never a reasonable one, hes just rhetorically gifted and you get easily tricked into his bullshit. He never says anything actually, and if he does its historically incorrect
@@ardez8674 they decided to create a JEWISH state within a Muslim country where they came as refugees based on biblical claims. Their intents are genocidal and not the other way around
@@ardez8674reading your comment, you clearly don't know the full history of what has happened in the middle east. Please first check the complete timeline after ww1 when the Brits were still there
Not just lying, but he's so desperate to catch her in a "gotcha" moment. He keeps trying to put words in her mouth and twist everything she is saying because he has no valid points to offer. All of Palestine is occupied. How is it "genocidal" to say that? That's like calling someone genocidal because they stated that Americans are on Native American land or Mexicans are on native Aztec land. You know what is genocidal? Bombing Gaza without any concern for the lives of innocent people, including children.
He isn't lying, just distorting facts to fit his narrative. "Zero" jews live in the Gaza strip for the very obvious reason that it's the worlds largest open air prison and everyone in there resents Israel for it, not to mention the lack of jobs and total dependency on imported goods and materials through Israeli checkpoints (or through Hamas controlled black market).
@@dadaeverydays3968he's talking over the explanation of the women, she's educated and lets him talk. It's actually "she gets interrupted during the explanation"
True. But in Christian countries, Muslims are not safe either. Just, read good books of history. Good ones, and get a very good calculator at your side, and check the numbers. Add all the time, and press (=) at the end. You will find out that for each Christian murdered by a Muslim, you will find out 1,000 Muslims murdered by Christians. And then, rewrite what your comment.
@@cheeznipz8891 how? Please explain this to me; of course, using the definition of *genocide* under United Nations & ICC regulations created as due to the atrocities committed during WWII as your baseline.
She said she wants the entire land that Israel rests on. Don’t twist the context. Me saying I want all of your land and sure you can stay too, is neither democracy nor equality.
@@TheSpideyman1Israel had it's chance. They chose to become judeo-fascists engaging in a massive land grab for the master race. Time to replace the occupation government under a one-state solution with "israel" being relegated to a series of provinces under a single government for all of Palestine.
Imagine saying you want a democracy.. How's that going under Gaza.. Where the leaders live in a cozy million dollar mansion and palestinians have to suffer from hunger and poverty..
Well this girl is suggesting that Israelis should peacefully live under a Palestinian government that has openly said they want to exterminate the Jewish people... so she's not too bright either...
Put him with actual scholars and they will all agree and side with Israel. Isrsel or Eretz Yisrael (the land of Israel) was renamed by the Romans as Syria-Palaestina, so the original people of Palestine were Jews.
@@almightyatomic if we are going back to the era of romans then Spain was an islamic country as well so should a the Muslims start colonizing Spain? Palestine existed even in the books of Shakespeare he wrote during his time. It exists in the bible as well. Jews can go back to Germany where they came from
Oh really because every time anybody has debated him they have lost. What is there to be debated anyway Hamas want Israel wiped off the face of the earth and that is the only thing that will satisfy them so the only question is who will be able to drive the other out of the region and it seems to be the Israeli to have the upper hand at this point so I think the Palestinians have shot themselves in the foot on this one because Gaza will soon be Israel
@@almightyatomicand the USA wasnt always called the USA we should now evacuate everyone and give back the land of the US to the natives?😂😂😂 You people are so stupid its funny
@@DontKnow-hr5my I did and anyone with brains would understand that it would lead into gnocide. You would need to have IQ less than 90 to think that group of people who have literally yelled for EXTERMINATION of group of people for 75-years wouldn't just kill all jws if they ever got into power in that region. It literally even was on their website. They aren't there for peace, they are just failed nazies.
Do you really believe Arabs would want a state for Jews and Arabs while HAMAS and many other Muslim countries openly promote complete genocide and exile for Jews?
He must feel really powerful debating against college kids instead of debating people at his level! Oxford isn’t embarrassing, Shapiro is just a coward. He was called upon to debate plenty of scholars at is level, but he’s just a pu$$y
You don’t see the irony and hypocrisy is you talking about a “victim” card do you? That’s tragic that’s what both sides are going to do, just like in any conflict the difference is one side is a terrorist organization and has been classified as such by more than just the “mean scary Jews” they literally say their intent is to cleanse Jews from this planet but look you wanna go live under sharia law? This is the problem with idiots like you, you have no fucking clue what you’re even defending, you just do it because it’s what your echo chamber tells you to do, you know why they literally only every talk about Palestinians in terms of civilians?(whom are given ample warning when there’s going to be middle/artillery strikes) they do it to shift away from Hamas who Israel is actually fighting you know the Hamas that hides behind innocent civilians(which is a common terrorist tactic so when they get attacked back and there is inevitably casualties, they play the VICTIM). I’d Implore you to actually educate yourself on a topic before taking a stance on it, you just look like a follower who needs so badly to be accepted you’d say whatever your peers want you to say, do you have any original thoughts for yourself or is your life all talking points?
Jewish used to live in peace with Arabs for centuries until the Zions came from Europe and the whole place ruined… don’t let this fool get you, and don’t be a sheep.
Yup this guys an actor and gets paid millions of dollars to be an actor. Someone who gets paid massive amounts of money to speak surely there can’t an agenda there
@@iluvmantu y’all do understand is not about Jews against Palestinians ? Palestinians are a different thing from hamas and they don’t support the terrorist group of Hamas since it terrorizes them as well, that is why Israel must win otherwise Palestine and Israel are both dead, Palestine is dead no matter what, Hamas will make sure of it.
@@user-jw2fy5nw6t They don't. I get that you don't know shit, but it's so annoying when you guys support religious wars and violence where you will never be in danger.
That's the art of debate, he doesn't want to get framed as stoobid.. so for instance instead of answering complex question he ask the most basic question to justify his point and run
First of all this isnt a debate but a Q&A. The questioner will have a chance to ask a question and the remaining time will be given to the presenter to answer it. A back and forth conversation shouldn't even be happening, so what you said is actually the opposite of what happened here. If she wants to speak unimpeded then she should have her own event.
How exactly? She's saying that all of Israel is actually occupied Palestinian territory, which means she's calling for the state of Israel to be subsumed into a Palestinian state and for the Israelis to lose their right to self determination.
@@francois853 Because the Jewish community who currently occupy Israel were given the land by the United Nations in 1948. Jews hadn't owned Israel for 3400 years prior to that. They were pushed out of the land by the Assyrians, who in turn had the land taken from them by the Arab Muslims. The Arab Muslims became the modern Palestinians. Israel was taken from those who had lived there for centuries, against their will, and given back to the Jews, who have subsequently treated anyone but Jews like complete shit since. They literally just became a Jewish Ethnostate who put Palestinians in a country sized Ghetto, which is bitterly and depressingly sad and ironic considering what Nazi Germany did to the Jews that led to this mess. Literally all these problems could have been solved in the UN in 1948 just said - no, you can't have Israel back. You can instead have some land in America, we have plenty of it. But god forbid the Human race make a collectively good decision in moments of humanitarian crisis.
❤️God promised that land to Abraham whose son is Ishmael and Ishaac, whose descendents are the arabs and the jews. 📖Proofs from Bible and Torah 🖌Suggested watch: "Arabs and Israel-Conflict or Conciliation?" by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat 💜All live together in harmony 💙Peace🌿
@@darkrain491 there were jews there before 1948, and although a majority arabs, not that many and they were also partly immigrants. What was said was essentially that muslims could have Jordan and jews could have Israel, much like India was partitioned. I think it's fine. Jews have been persecuted and pushed out of two dozen arab countries and Israel is 0.2% of that land mass, which is a smaller proportion than their numbers versus the arab muslim numbers. The palestinians will just have to move over and join their muslim arab brothers in the arab world. It's not ideal, but the world isn't ideal.
Which seems to be muslims lately. Lots of antisemetic comments. Not many people commenting on the fact israel has missiles fired at it every single day by terrorists for decades now.
Trans people? Blacks? Gays? Women? Are you really saying all the people youre not allowed to criticise (non whites) are 'in control'? What a poor argument.
This is pretty misleading? Cause we cant criticize Palastine, or Israel. It's always a debate. The problem here, is that the whole debate is misleading. It's not about israel, and its not about the palastinians. It's about Hamas, who wont let palastinians know peace.
The palestinians are just as bad. Look up the videos of people asking if they are okay with Hamas hiding behind their chidlren. They are fine with it. The videos of people asking if they want jews dead, yes they want jews all dead. The videos of them asking palestinians if they want israel gone, yes they do. They do no accept a 2 state solution. It has been offered 5 times. The last offer included israel offering to basically build them an entire city at Israels expense. Denied. They just want the jews dead man. @@natakug1
Why would ANYONE want equal rights for all citizens? Since the beginning of time, all people have NEVER had equal rights, why would any intelligent individual ever think that will be different. Wake-up people. People who treat women like property and second-class citizens, don't d ______.
I mean it is logical, is it not? In Israel, there are many Muslims. In Gaza, there are no jews. Would Gaza extend over to the golan heights, there would also be no more jews.
No one seems to understand what it's supposed to happen, which is a lowering of the Flag of israel and a timed mass exodus back to their forefathers homeland in Spain and Germany, where they came from in forty eight.... Any child can understand this but evidently their thirst for power blurs their vision..
@@oplars6487maybe because nobody wants to live in the place nicknamed the literal LIVING PRISON OF LAND. They already had it bad before this and it just got worse for them now
So genocide means renaming a country and taking it back and allowing for Jews to live with Muslims Palestinians and Christian Palestinians in peace but genocide is not ethnic cleansing?? The girl is not advocating for the destruction of Jews or Israelis though I do understand such a peaceful world where the Palestinians peacefully take their land back would end with lots of blood shed but in an ideal world that is what she and I believe. But this world is not so simple and peaceful and so she is not stupid enough to advocate for something like that since she knows it will not be peaceful but she advocates for a ceasefire and perhaps even human rights to protect the Palestinian people.
Which facts would those be exactly? She's basically claiming that Israel is part of Palestine when the state of Israel predates the State of Palestine by 40 years.
@@francois853 some facts ben wouldn't like? Israel funded Hamas to split the Palestinian people. Jews don't have a birthright to expel people from Palestine, they aren't the chosen people. The entire world is seeing how much Israel lies and commits crimes towards humanity.
Palestine was named palestines by the Roman’s to lick the Jews that resides within ISRAEL, the county Jacob made , by trying to rename it something to reflect the Phillistines. Hamas and Hasbullah are TERRORISTS. If they weren’t genocidal towards Jews there would be some in Palestine, there are more Palestinians alive in Israel than Jews in Palestine under Hamas rule for damn sure
Palestinians living in Israel and following Israeli law have the exact same rights and privileges as every other citizen. It's only the people who refuse to accept the Israeli government who are restricted in their activities, and that is a direct result of their terrorist activities.
Israel is not a real state to begin with lil Ben. Let me ask lil Ben a few question’s now. How many years has this fake state of Israel been around huh? Is it true that Israel is a race of people without a country yes or no??? Is it not true that after ww2 a small portion of Palestine was designated for the Jewish community yes or no? Now is it not true that the Jewish community now is taking all of Palestine 🇵🇸 huh???? Simple question to answer???? Can the people of the world have these questions answered now huh lil ben lol 😂 😅😂😂 if you really want to understand better read the book holy wars by Karen Armstrong
you are tick as fuck. Ok she wants a land where both jews and palastinians live... now who do the arab nations including palastine kill on site? oh yeah jews. So yes it would literally be a genocide and every pro palastinian would have a different view but i digress. She wants a fantasy land where religions dont exist and everyone loves each other and there is no greed. (its never gonna happen).
@@sirjacobsofunitedkingdom6845that's a shit ton of civilian casualties then🤣, if they civilians just because Hamas uses them as human shields, why are Palestinians in the West Bank, a region Hamas doesn't control, still dying to Israeli attacks? They just kill Palestinians because they want to eradicate them and get them to fully leave their land.
This Jewish guy being a “lawyer” one can imagine how the mindset of Israel’s security forces works. Answer couldn’t be more clear than what the world has witnessed since 7 Oct.
I think a lot of people forgot Ben is Jewish lol. His minds never going to change on this one. Personally I think we should kick both the Jews/Muslims out and Israel/Palestine and give it to the Christian’s 🤷♂️
Nah, he's pretty spot on. Hating Jews is baked in to Islam. There couldn't be a peacful "Palestine" to replace "Israel". Check out how the Palestinian Islamists indoctrinate children with their TV shows.
@@AkexAlvarezliterally all of his arguments are bs the only reason most people follow him is bc he was a meme, then he was the funny sounding guy who said stupid shit, then he started acting like he knew what he was yalking about so people just believe him as a refutable source, he literallh said the barbie movie making a joke about saying barbie is ugky now and how using margot robby was a bad example, he got nad and said "then why did you even write it in" bc bro cannot understand a ioke or any sort of nuance, he is legitimately stupid, the only thing he knows how to do is consistently talk over people so they cant get their point out so he sounds right.
Ask him for policy to be free from the river to the sea does not mean the dismantle of a Jewish presence in Palestine. It’s only means that the Palestinians have the right to rule over their own land and for those who live on Palestine that have to carry Palestinian passport by permission of the government of Palestine. Many Jews that came to Palestine have passports from other countries if you don’t want to stay in Palestine, you are free to go back from wherever you came from but Palestinians have no luxury of another passport and they should not be forced to leave their land
Ben is so good at mischaracterizing the arguments of others. This person wants equal rights for Jews and Palestinians, he takes that to mean eliminating Jews.
Well, from what we’ve seen from Hamas’ official posts, they seek the complete annihilation of the jews, which is what’s causing the israel counter offensive in the first place. It’s the Jews in Israel who actually practice what they preach; they coexist with the Muslims and Christians in their country. Perhaps the Muslim lady receives her information from biased Islamic sources, which is fair since I’ve learned about this conflict by watching these viral Ben clips, and longer form explanations from multiple center or right leaning sources
Arabs and other pro-Palestine militant groups started wars against Israel which they will obviously lose and lost most of their lands. There is no wrong here. If Arabs accepted a two state solution in 1947, there wouldn't have been any conflict like this
Struggling? He’s a literal professional debater who’s shut down idiots left and right, also there’s more depth to this she is accusing Israel of promoting apartheid. Ben pointed out that if Israel is guilty of apartheid then why are there zero Jews in either Gaza or the West Bank.
@@RealAntonCastillo "He’s a literal professional debater" nope, he is not. He may look like a pro debater, because he "debates" only with students. Have a look at his interview with Piers Morgan or other intelligent, educated people who see thorugh his BS talking, then you can really see his experience in real debating: nothing pro about it.
@@johnscaramis2515 Ok let me rephrase It’s like 2 am so I’m tired😂, he’s a world known politician and debater that travels around the world to talk and debate, nonetheless no one is always 100% right or 100% smart at times so I’ll give you that one where he had an issue with another debater/ him interrupting at times because he expects the person to answer his question simply
She’s calling for peace and equality. How tf do you disagree with that??
Becasue Jews believe they have manifest destiny like every religious zealot in history taking over and killing in the name of their god . Not just targeting Jews just look at the crusades it’s a sad mentality
Because that’s not what Hamas wants - and they’re the elected leaders.
Their entire mission is to destroy Jews, they openly say it.
If Palestine truly wanted peace and equality, they wouldn’t have rejected multiple treaties for peace and land division over the years.
You don't understand what's going on over there. Sure you all love the people on the Palestine side who send bombs on balloons that kill children. It's not peace that Palestine wants.
Exactly like I’m baffled at the comments saying they agree with this clown man
Since 1947 there have been 5 attempts at peace and equality between Israelis and Palestinians and all have been rejected by Palestinians. Kinda feels like Palestinians don't want peace
“Arguing with a genius is hard, but arguing with an idiot is impossible.” -Albert Einstein
Who's the dumb here?
Literally the Genocidal girl in there omg thats amazing how we have people like her mindeset walking around
"It would be my greatest sadness to see Zionists do to Palestinian Arabs much of what Nazis did to Jews" -Albert Einstein
And thats how Ben Shapiro built his career
That's why every discussion with Ben Shapiro is fruitless. Idiots refuse to accept critique.
“The further society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those who say it” - George Orwell
Ah yes, the author of 1984. Well said Orwell
Indeed 😂
You mean the clear communist author, who’s thinking Shapiro hates? Don’t you see the irony?
Muslim and Christian
Christ is king
Jew think jesus is poses by satan
She’s lying and she knows she’s lying
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What Lie? Apartheid? Truth. River to the sea meaning kill all Jews? LIE.
You are WRONG. How can you think killing THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Palestinians is somehow good for the region? Hamas is NOT all Palestinians! JEwish Overreaction, beyond any reasonable excuse.
@@MachinecoNY90% Palestinians support Hamas….
“You can never win an argument with a dumb person”
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Dude is too cowardly to mention which one is dumb
That's the thing he is just dumb he thinks he is always right 😂
This is why people with sense don't bother problem solving with Ben Shapiro.
@@juniorbayano4938are u mentally stable? Have u ever communicated with someone from 🇵🇸? I have with teenage and people 20 y old. During our conversation they told me how everything is jew people fault and how they hate them for what they did. A lot of people living in Gaza are brainwashed and have a hatred. Hatred cause violence and plows hatred. My opinion - both of the sides are wrong, but everyone wants to somebody in this situation be right…
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This idea that if you criticize Israel you're anti-Semitic is getting old.
They love to play this card cuz it's easy as hell
What are you doing?
The irony is that the Israelis are not even the Semitic people. The Semitic people are the people of Shem/Sem, one of the sons of Noah. The children of Shem are the brown Asians. The white Israelis (and Palestinians) are children of Japheth. So they are not Semitic or not the people of Shem.
@@wavemaker2077the f are you talking about, noah didn't exist, everyone knows that
The idea of speaking the truth is racist or whatever the fuck these idiots blame it on now days is moronic
Same woman who insisted Brits didn’t bomb German civilians in WWII. Oxford, you had one job. Education.
They DID educate!
They just didnt educate them in the truth. It's those little details where they worm their agenda in!
Yeah Churchill was evil... and?
I mean in UK universities everyone specialises in one subject so it could be the case she’s like a physics student who hasn’t done any history whatsoever since 14
@@krishvids608so she’s incapable of educating herself on the most devastating war in human history? I cannot believe you just made that excuse on her behalf 😂. And you gave the example of her being 14 the last time she studied history, let’s say she’s 22 now that means she’s had almost a DECADE to learn I mean she has google, she has libraries, she has friends and family so really you should keep your mouth closed okay my friend.
@@BillyMurray-hw2vzevil? Fighting against Germany during WW2 is evil?
Israel: 20% Arab. Gaza: 0 Jews.
Yeah but the 20% of Arabs have 0 rights and who tf wants to live in Gaza. It's literally hell there so no jews live there
Because Israël control all gaza's exit points ?
Спроси у евреев куда делись остальные 80 процентов на этих землях
Why would Israeli's live in an open air prison out choice? Whilst the Palestinians have no choice. ridiculous argument to make. Next
@@rubyshah4543 It's not that Israelis don't WANT to live in Gaza, they CAN'T. Read the book "From Time Immemorial" to find out how many Jews lived in Arab and Muslim countries before 1948, and how many live in those countries now. Palestinians can travel and work in Israel. Israelis are FORBIDDEN to enter Area A of the PA controlled West Bank. Apartheid Israel? No. Apartheid Gaza, yes!
She:- free palastine
He:- they want us dead
He's right. Let Palestine take over your country instead. Israel, a Jewish state, always had a right to exist independent of Arabs.
@@phun1901 They have no right to coexist in Palestine because they have no business there.
Free Palestine from what ? She talked about Palestine occupied by Israel but the problem is that Palestine isn’t occupied
@@sabeersid4645 given what happens when Islam becomes the dominant religion in a country? I'm inclined to say I'd prefer Israel to another theocratic authoritarian state that executes gays and tortures/taxes anyone of another faith
@@sabeersid4645 At this point, what Israel has is Israeli land, it’s been in Israeli hands for over 50 years, and 1-2 generations of Israelis have been born and raised there. Like sucks to suck for the Palestinian but we aren’t going to just deport every jew back to Europe at this point, they are going to have to be satisfied with the West Bank and Gaza.
She proved hes not listening.
L Israel L Indian looking crap
wrong go to school pls
@jessezeier4923 Ben Shitiro twisting her words cuz he sucks x
@@jessezeier4923 ok. 🤷
@jessezeier4923 literally she said she wants her people to have their country to be free n he turned it into so you wanna kill all jews.
She was literally describing Israel, Jews and Arabs, living together, having rights....
but thats not realistic dawg people hate each other especially israel and palestine
And look at that you are either a child or a teenager
Except what about the millions of Palestinians living in Palestine? They’re not allowed in Israel, and their living conditions are horrific. And the perpetrators ARE the Israeli government. They’re the ones pouring cement over their water supplies and throwing humanitarian aid into the ocean.
@user-pf3ey1cg1t when Muslims went from mecca to medina half of medina was Jews and they lived peacefully until Jews broke thier agreement. When Muslims expanded they lived with christians
@nunz5998, ur argument pls ur desperate u attacked the person, not the argument NEXT
If Palestine did not attack Isreal , they would not be crying now..
Exactly
True
There are things such as crocodile tears, I'm not saying i don't sympathize with the children suffering in Palestine, but I believe Hamas is hiding behind the normal citizebs
crying wolves
Bruh such an idiotic statement ppl like you know think this conflict started on October 7th
" if palestine didn't attack they wouldn't be crying."
Firstly u used palestine instead of gaza which already shows your lack of understanding about the situation, so let me clarify there are 2 palestines Gaza and the west bank
These 2 are both ruled by separate government, fatah for west Bank and khamas for gaza , we don't need to say " If palestine didn't attack they wouldn't be crying " bec the west bank has already showed us what would happen , like 90% of the west bank has been captured and illegally settled, and in the muslim areas ppl live under constant oppression , THEY DONT EVEN GET ENOUGH WATER FOR A WEEK
Now did the west bank attack isreal ? No they were peaceful but isreal still attacked them , now I'd like you to plz explain how the innocent ppl of west bank are wrong and if u can that justifies hamaz's attack
Remember when universities were full of intelligent people? I miss those days.
Same
This is what activist professors and affirmative action gets you.
@@UGALEE1 It’s in the idea of tolerance.
One day Muslims can knock ✊ them doors and say pay tax for living convert to Islam or die.
It’s happening in our eyes
People always talk big about things now we just see how it really is i don't think that much changed
And you think Ben gave an appropriate answer?? Seriously??
“No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot” -Mark Twain
Mark Twain could always take 10 words and get to the point where it take most men a book
@@user-im2uv2bt1b I completely agree
It's really that simple
Another quote, this could be Twain too, but I'm not sure..."The person who argues with an idiot is a bigger idiot"
You’re talking about him right?
"You can have a state where you can get equal rights for Jews and Muslim" And HAMAS like "Choose one, Israel gone we live, or We gone Israel live" Such hypocrisy
Why did hamas even come into existence? Did they just decide to be comically evil villains
Israel isn't apartheid, there are Muslims in both Israel's government and military. She's a liar.
No Israel are fascist invaders! Palestine is fighting against their invaders! That's historical fact like a man is a man and a woman is a woman! The Jews turned into Nazis!
If I was Israel I wouldn't have Muslims in there
Yes there are Muslims living in Israel and in the IDF!
all regimes have tokens, south africa had blacks as tokens as well
They are Palestinians. 😅😂. And will be demographic majority eventually.
"Ben Shapiro stops woman making her full point in order to gaslight the audience into misunderstanding what she's saying"
Nah, that is her point. He's highlighting that she's not being honest with the audience. What moron thinks that Jews would live peaceful under Hamas rule. These people are out of their minds
for real man this guy legit just talks fast and interrupts people to make it seem like he's right. would love to see him debate someone whos not in college
Typical jew tactic
Mf he is right and if u can't understand u are foolish
@@tusharsing5368 no he’s not he just talks really fast and controls the situation this is why majority of right wing influencers only debate kids bc they know they can’t beat actual leftist in actual debates
If supporting Palestine means I am antisemitic, then does supporting Israel make me islamophobic?
no silly it just means you are againsts terrorists haha!
Well at that point just support both
every other religion is having problem with just one religion thus we can say tha all religions are Islamophobic 😂😂 what a joke 😂😂
Yes..
No, just means you're against genocidal jihad.
*"Pardon me...was it Harvard your graduated from?"*
He's twisting words, the girl has a better point than he does
I'm sure that will work out so well for the Jews.
The Jews are the only ones wanting a two state solution
The usual "Apatheid" complaint against jews is your better point?
Not one factual or historical argument that I have seen from pro-Palestine groups other than emotional manipulation
@@SUD7117
Nobody wants to put up with these chomos, what part of that don't u get? Invite these Israeli low lives into your house if you love them so much.
@@SUD7117 the ones emotionaly manipulation the people are the jews and in this conversation it gets very obvious.
She wanted all in the area to live together regardless of faith or ethnicity. He calls her genocidal. He can talk as fast as he likes - you cant gloss over that one.
Her wants are just naive delusions and wishful thinking.
Imagine living together with Muslims ...
Lol...
She wants that in a part of the world that is constantly at war and just had a major terrorist attack.
@@Rain649
"A part of the world who constantly at war" hmmm let's see:
Iraqi war was against USA a foreign country
Afghanistan war same thing
Lybia war against nato the army of Europe a foreign continent
Palestine vs Israel war started just after the émigration of European/American jews to it and was backed up by them
Every single war that happened in there was because Europe/USA aka the Democratic west
@@Rain649
And let's not forget about the WW1 and the WW2 events where 20 million people died
I agree her intent is actually pure and she would like to see all living together in and in unity, but unfortunately Jews will be completely WIPED or slaughtered in israel the SECOND They attempt a 1 state solution and open up their borders to any palestinian. The Jews chose life in this situation..
Why the hell is she bringing Apartheid into it? She doesn't even say it right.
A Muslim from England is amazing
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A wannabe muslim 😂
Stuppid people are same either in England, online man or women.
Lol yes
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can beat 40 scholars with one fact, but you can't beat one idiot with 40 facts
Not a scholar yet….. still a student….
Quote by Imam ash-Shafi'i
Still a kid
She's a student not even a scholar. U can't have an opinion if u havent watched the whole debate
@@jonmcb168what’s the difference genuine question
She is legit talking to a brick wall
Like Jews do al the time?
Don't use 'Jews' when referring to Israelis or Zionists, Israel does not represent Judaism or all Jews
His constant narcissistic little voice he has is so insufferable to listen to
@@caffelatte7002 just as not all Palestinians are or support Hamas.
No she is the brick wall.
he doesn't want a debate, he just loves the sound of his own voice
This is the same woman who said that the Brits didn't bomb German civilians in WWII. And she's from Oxford. Talk about stupidity.
I believe that all the people who think the girl are right talk and have the same attitude, history is free please search.
If one doesn't think Israel to exist what is there left to debate?
Can't win the debate with them because they will never accept that they are wrong.
VIdeos like this are a good example of how a lot of Jews actually think.
the devil wont accept he is wrong
You talking about jews, Right?
just like debating with Hitler after he killed 6 millions of Jews.
😂 like you people accepts when you are wrong
Twisting words is bulling. The girl does not want to kill anyone all she wants is equal rights.
They are not mutually exclusive
That may be all she wants. It is NOT what Hamas wants.
If you are an arab with Israeli citizenship, you have equal rights in israel.
If you are an Israeli jew and just so happen to work in Gaza, I wonder what would happen?
@@joyceperry3729so why are the Arabs in Israel getting arrested if the post about Palestine
Because they dont understand the positions of the people involed in the in this conflict. Hamas Is the most extreme stands on the Muslim religion. Not only do they want the full eradication of jews from the region but also gays, lesbians and all others who are not muslim.
Wow... this woman contradicts herself constantly.
Israel isnt apartheid. All citizens already have equal rights
He just showed he can't handle the idea of jews and muslims living in peace in the same country.
1.5 millions Israelis are Arabs.
Mainly because muslims already cause so many questions
Israel has more Muslims them Palestine has jews
Neither can the other side
There is a large Muslim Arab population in Isreal, all of whom have equal rights and a better quality of life then they would in any Arab Muslim country, the same cannot be said of jews living in Muslim countries.
It's hilarious that you think it's simply that Ben shapiro doesn't want Muslims and jews to live together peacefully when the only state in the middle east where they do live peacefully is within the borders of Isreal.
As a Jew, I stand with Palestine, but not Hamas. I pray for peace with all my neighbors.
Bro Hamas is just a propaganda Israel uses for genocidal purpose
You're a real Jew. Hamas are not Palestinians and Zionists are not Jews. People are waking up.
Then you are calling for your own sui.. ide. How foolish.
Sahih al-Bukhari 2926
"Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Sahih Muslim 1767 a
It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah say:
"I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.""(he wants to expel people from their own homes and country)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3974
"The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight the people until they say La ilaha illallah, and whoever says it, his life and his wealth are safe from me, except for a right that is due, and his reckoning will be with Allah."
Sahih al-Bukhari 2977(muhammad says "I have been made victorious with terror") so thats why islam considered to be ter.. st belief.
5: 51
"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
Sahih al-Bukhari 4557(the best of mankind are those who put chains on neck to embrace islam)
true. killing people is never a good way to resolve things and its unfortunate to see negotiations degrade to all out war.
@@kevinforget549it hurts to see, and what makes it even worse is that its come to a point where one side has to be fully wiped out for this *if we’re calling it war* to end.
You know there's something wrong with you when you don't even want peace for your own people...
Define your concept of “peace” for me.
@@user-zf3yr8vc5e Not invading other countries, thereby causing a never-ending cycle of violence where each side wants to get revenge for the last battle.
If the west hadn't invaded Palestine, 9/11 wouldn't have happened, if 9/11 didn't happen the Iraq war wouldn't have happened, if the Iraq war didn't happen ISIS wouldn't have existed, if ISIS didn't exist millions of lives would've been saved from terror attacks, and so on and so forth.
Its becoming increasingly difficult to debate with Hamastians!😮
Yup coz they stand with the truth and they hav facts Ben has excuses, his entire career was build upon BS
It’s becoming difficult to deal with Ben because he don’t even know what TF he on abt 😂
@@ArianaZ6the girl is being delusional and he's just stating a fact
@@Jehrb So he’s ‘stating a fact’ that he doesn’t want peace? What does he wanna do then, kill every Palestinian like they’re already trying to do?? How is he so great for saying that when he’s supporting genocide.
He throws around the term anti semitic when he’s chatting bs rather than ‘facts’ bcs Palestinians are literally Semitic themselves. So trust me he don’t know what he’s talking about, he’s the one being delusional.
Yk what’s funnier, she’s not being delusional because Christian’s, Muslims and Jewish ppl all actually lived in peace on the land until Zionism and how they illegally built up on land. So the idea isn’t so random to mention
@@Jehrb he is literally twisting the girl's words. She said that the whole of Palestine is occupied and he replied with "u want Jews dead ok"
Ben tried to call her a terrorist for aiming for equal rights across religions...
she is not calling for equal, she wants no jewish state which is the problem.
No he didn't...
@@Sub.zero.111he did
it's not about that it's about territory
My men you are not in the position of understanding of what’s happening, funny thing is that Jerusalem has Muslims Christian’s and Jews presented and in Israel you can choose to have any religion or not having one at all. From other point, have you seen a lot of not Muslim people in Arab states, specifically Palestine? And if yes - do you think that they have equal rights?
She proved everything and he’s not listening
bro what he disaproved everything she said, you guys just wont listen to an actual facts
@@beydonce763he is literally accusing of her of genocidal intent. He only argues against kids hes ridiculous, she literally calling for peace and hes there accusing of her this
@@beydonce763its funny how he clqims to be jewish but ignores the rules of the torah. Maybe if hed shut his mouth and acc listened to her then hed know hes wrong as she has mentioned nothing of her supporting any part of any genocidal as she said she isnt calling for any destruction of jews. He literally makes no sense. Him tryna talk fast is him tryna cover up the fact hes wrong. He makes no sense here at all. Hes the hugest clown ever. Id love to see him talk against bassem yousuf lmfao
No, you clearly didnt watch the whole argument, and when youre saying "he only argues with kids" everyone who were in building could have argue with him. stop with the bullshit@@g3_lden
@@g3_ldenpeace will never work out
still waiting to see ben shapiro debate someone with actual knowledge like bassem yousef
Never heard him say anything that was not one sided and unfactual to a large degree
Fr
@@user-zf3yr8vc5enever heard anyone actually prove what he said is one sided
@@OwnM3Z0that’s cuz he doesn’t debate someone with knowledge cuz he’s a huge biased clown
@@ILoveAllah50 brother I'm muslim too and im talking about Ben shapiro 💀, also advice from an Egyptian myself who knows the political background of bassem youssef: don't idolise him, he's a secularist and was part of the media war that overthrew a democratically elected islamic government by spewing lies, respect his position, not him
ben is usually the reasonable one but this time he’s the one yammering slogans without listening to anything
Israel fought against 7 Muslim countries at the same time? If they didn't get any help, Jews would have gone through a second genocide. Israel and Palestine has been quite chill for a while until Hamas decided to send some missiles. I'm not defending on killing innocent civilians, but just think for a second.
Before you comment, I just want to clear out that my comments intention was to bring some objective views on the table. I'm not taking any sides. Many people commenting seem very biased and that's very understandable considering that innocent people die. But in history, you should always try to look at things from an objective point of view because every side thinks they're doing the right thing and the other side is evil. It's all about the view.
Ben is never a reasonable one, hes just rhetorically gifted and you get easily tricked into his bullshit. He never says anything actually, and if he does its historically incorrect
@@ardez8674 they decided to create a JEWISH state within a Muslim country where they came as refugees based on biblical claims. Their intents are genocidal and not the other way around
@@ardez8674reading your comment, you clearly don't know the full history of what has happened in the middle east. Please first check the complete timeline after ww1 when the Brits were still there
@@Asfar001ify It was suggested to make two states mut Palestinians didn't accept it
Ben knows what he's doing: lying
Not just lying, but he's so desperate to catch her in a "gotcha" moment. He keeps trying to put words in her mouth and twist everything she is saying because he has no valid points to offer. All of Palestine is occupied. How is it "genocidal" to say that? That's like calling someone genocidal because they stated that Americans are on Native American land or Mexicans are on native Aztec land. You know what is genocidal? Bombing Gaza without any concern for the lives of innocent people, including children.
He is not lying at all.
He isn't lying, just distorting facts to fit his narrative.
"Zero" jews live in the Gaza strip for the very obvious reason that it's the worlds largest open air prison and everyone in there resents Israel for it, not to mention the lack of jobs and total dependency on imported goods and materials through Israeli checkpoints (or through Hamas controlled black market).
he asked a honeest question, the students couldnt explain which part of palestine is occupied or invaded 😁😁😁😁
@@dadaeverydays3968he's talking over the explanation of the women, she's educated and lets him talk. It's actually "she gets interrupted during the explanation"
In Muslim's countries, other religious people are not safe.😢😢
True. But in Christian countries, Muslims are not safe either.
Just, read good books of history. Good ones, and get a very good calculator at your side, and check the numbers. Add all the time, and press (=) at the end. You will find out that for each Christian murdered by a Muslim, you will find out 1,000 Muslims murdered by Christians. And then, rewrite what your comment.
You never win an argument with idiots that sees only 1 side.
true. the fact that she can't condemn hamas tells you everything you need to know.
Is he really saying the palestinians are genociding the jews 🤦
Yes, Based on the answer the girl gave to him.
You want to kickout the Israelis and place them where?
They are
@@cheeznipz8891how ?
Yes.
@@cheeznipz8891 how? Please explain this to me; of course, using the definition of *genocide* under United Nations & ICC regulations created as due to the atrocities committed during WWII as your baseline.
America & the American people stand with Israel 🇮🇱
Oh really? Then can you explain about the 1 million Americans people who support Palestine?
Ihr seid das Elend dieser Welt
War is not about who is right, it is about who is left.
thats a Call of duty quote
The two are not mutually exclusive.
A very ignorant and stupid quote
Wow that is some cringe itachi BS
Yeah man, to be right you need only be the winner
Indigenous ? Jewish people have been there for over 3,500 years
He literally called her a genocidal person for simply saying she wants democracy and equality amongst the two nations.
There is no equality as long as Hamas controls Gaza. Get a clue.
She said she wants the entire land that Israel rests on. Don’t twist the context. Me saying I want all of your land and sure you can stay too, is neither democracy nor equality.
@@TheSpideyman1Israel had it's chance. They chose to become judeo-fascists engaging in a massive land grab for the master race. Time to replace the occupation government under a one-state solution with "israel" being relegated to a series of provinces under a single government for all of Palestine.
@@TheSpideyman1she did not say that, unless you think that what she calls Palestine equals all of Israel, so your comment has left me confused
Imagine saying you want a democracy.. How's that going under Gaza.. Where the leaders live in a cozy million dollar mansion and palestinians have to suffer from hunger and poverty..
Imagine watching this and thinking Shapiro is the smart one😂
my honest reaction 😂😂
Well this girl is suggesting that Israelis should peacefully live under a Palestinian government that has openly said they want to exterminate the Jewish people... so she's not too bright either...
He destroyed her... How did she even get into university with her lack of common sense...
I know, he’s lost so much credibility it’s laughable and I used to argue for him back in 2018
@@JM-yn8mbcopium is one hell of a drug man
God bless that young lady we hear you.
The entire US government is occupied by the printers
My respect for him has lost 100%
Unfortunately, i have to agree with you despite all the other positions i agree with him on.
He is right though, unlike israel Hamas hates Jews and advocated for holocaust
boo hoo
I think it’s obvious you don’t truly understand his comment in its entirety and what he is referencing.
You're wrong, that's fine
Put him with actual scholars and all the hypocrisy will come out.
Put him with actual scholars and they will all agree and side with Israel. Isrsel or Eretz Yisrael (the land of Israel) was renamed by the Romans as Syria-Palaestina, so the original people of Palestine were Jews.
@@almightyatomic if we are going back to the era of romans then Spain was an islamic country as well so should a the Muslims start colonizing Spain? Palestine existed even in the books of Shakespeare he wrote during his time. It exists in the bible as well. Jews can go back to Germany where they came from
Oh really because every time anybody has debated him they have lost. What is there to be debated anyway Hamas want Israel wiped off the face of the earth and that is the only thing that will satisfy them so the only question is who will be able to drive the other out of the region and it seems to be the Israeli to have the upper hand at this point so I think the Palestinians have shot themselves in the foot on this one because Gaza will soon be Israel
@@almightyatomicand the USA wasnt always called the USA we should now evacuate everyone and give back the land of the US to the natives?😂😂😂
You people are so stupid its funny
@almightyatomic you 100% wrong that land has been occupied by many tribes including Jews, but it never belonged to the Jews.
Ben really let her have it.
The Palestinians were kicked out of Jordan for a very good reason.
palestinians militias*
Another person who knows the truth and the facts. Try also Egypt, Kuwait, Lebanon and Iran too.
And until now, Egypt won't still open their doors to people of Gaza. Muslim helping Muslim might not be Egypt's intent.
And until now, Egypt won't still open their doors to people of Gaza. Muslim helping Muslim might not be Egypt's intent.
Shapiro proves there is no negotiating with a zionist.
Take the advice of your username.
He is a Zionist tho?
Sucks when things dont go your way, right?
Palestinians have proved there is no negotiating with terrorists.
@@artofsam nice one saying the entirety of palestine is hamas
The girl actually gave a very good answer, the guy sees only black and white
Good answer? Since when gnocida was good answer?
Did... did you even listen to what she said?@@Tespri
@@DontKnow-hr5my I did and anyone with brains would understand that it would lead into gnocide. You would need to have IQ less than 90 to think that group of people who have literally yelled for EXTERMINATION of group of people for 75-years wouldn't just kill all jws if they ever got into power in that region. It literally even was on their website. They aren't there for peace, they are just failed nazies.
Do you really believe Arabs would want a state for Jews and Arabs while HAMAS and many other Muslim countries openly promote complete genocide and exile for Jews?
@@DontKnow-hr5my There are no Israeli in Palestine. None. Not even one Israeli. What do you mean? 😂😂😂
ONLY IN AMERICA CAN YOU EXPRESS YOUR SELF LIKE THIS .
Debating with teenager students and dodging real debaters like Mr Hijab or Mr Frikenstein 😂
The full debate was an absolute embarrassment for oxford University
Agreed
Yep. You pay thousands of dollars for an education and you end up like her. Total waste of money in my opinion ...
Link tp the full debate? Can't seem to find it
He must feel really powerful debating against college kids instead of debating people at his level! Oxford isn’t embarrassing, Shapiro is just a coward. He was called upon to debate plenty of scholars at is level, but he’s just a pu$$y
@@baskling7626 ua-cam.com/video/-1NFirxhXWE/v-deo.htmlsi=TrS0QiSHwl-22Mzo
Ben Shapiro has an amazing ability to not hear a single point made by anyone that's not him.
Cause he isb a jew they think they got reason poor idio0ts i know them I worked for them before
True
What point? Non Factual points?
@@Sparkchaser91lol he is smarter than you
i highly doubt that @@GMC.Sonoma.4.3
Remember if they feel the need to talk over you. They are wrong and they know it.
Why is Ben so blatantly twisting her words?
Your brain is twisted
as much as he probably won’t admit it he definitely gets very passionate about this topic
With true words
@@luisrios3857101%
That's what he does. He knows he is on the wrong side of history. He should stand against Md Hijab.
This 'victim' card got worn out. Someone must tell him.
Go tell her first.
You don’t see the irony and hypocrisy is you talking about a “victim” card do you? That’s tragic that’s what both sides are going to do, just like in any conflict the difference is one side is a terrorist organization and has been classified as such by more than just the “mean scary Jews” they literally say their intent is to cleanse Jews from this planet but look you wanna go live under sharia law? This is the problem with idiots like you, you have no fucking clue what you’re even defending, you just do it because it’s what your echo chamber tells you to do, you know why they literally only every talk about Palestinians in terms of civilians?(whom are given ample warning when there’s going to be middle/artillery strikes) they do it to shift away from Hamas who Israel is actually fighting you know the Hamas that hides behind innocent civilians(which is a common terrorist tactic so when they get attacked back and there is inevitably casualties, they play the VICTIM). I’d
Implore you to actually educate yourself on a topic before taking a stance on it, you just look like a follower who needs so badly to be accepted you’d say whatever your peers want you to say, do you have any original thoughts for yourself or is your life all talking points?
she should be told first.
Nice try hasbara trolls
Jewish used to live in peace with Arabs for centuries until the Zions came from Europe and the whole place ruined… don’t let this fool get you, and don’t be a sheep.
She said live together… he said genocide, goes to show where their minds are.
Argue with a college student but not a grown woman? Ok DW
Imagine committing genocide while whining about a genocide that isn’t even happening
Yup this guys an actor and gets paid millions of dollars to be an actor. Someone who gets paid massive amounts of money to speak surely there can’t an agenda there
You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means
Hasn't the Palestine people's population like tripled over the past 30 years?
Kinda the reverse of a genocide if you ask me. 🤷♂️
Yeah jews.
@@iluvmantu y’all do understand is not about Jews against Palestinians ? Palestinians are a different thing from hamas and they don’t support the terrorist group of Hamas since it terrorizes them as well, that is why Israel must win otherwise Palestine and Israel are both dead, Palestine is dead no matter what, Hamas will make sure of it.
Ben Shapiro does a good job of putting words in people's mouths that they didn't say
literally
Master of the straw man argument
chutzpah !
You are more than welcome to debate Ben, tough guy.
@@user-jw2fy5nw6t They don't. I get that you don't know shit, but it's so annoying when you guys support religious wars and violence where you will never be in danger.
Argue with Jew about free Palestine and he will be in your side all the time…
You don’t need to be a muslim to support Palestine you just need to be a human to support Palestine ❤
And your handle and comment implies that virtue signal only signals for some not all
Clean water and salty water don’t come from the same hose
Man is an idiot if he thinks that Palestine is humanitarian
You're the reason why shampoo bottles have warnings on them
@@926paaja what is your problem kid?
@@Cosmic_Radiation68 I didn’t get it?
Ben does this all the time.
Speak fast, don't let them finish their sentences.
That's the art of debate, he doesn't want to get framed as stoobid.. so for instance instead of answering complex question he ask the most basic question to justify his point and run
Ladan lol
Because he does his homework and knows the bs they’re about to say before they say it 🤷♀️ why waste time?
First of all this isnt a debate but a Q&A. The questioner will have a chance to ask a question and the remaining time will be given to the presenter to answer it. A back and forth conversation shouldn't even be happening, so what you said is actually the opposite of what happened here. If she wants to speak unimpeded then she should have her own event.
@@Peppy_3000 imagine listening to the propaganda, couldn't be me
Ben is being so intellectually dishonest here and he absolutely knows it.
How exactly? She's saying that all of Israel is actually occupied Palestinian territory, which means she's calling for the state of Israel to be subsumed into a Palestinian state and for the Israelis to lose their right to self determination.
Such a hypocrite, he is getting payed for every mean statement he spits
@@francois853 Because the Jewish community who currently occupy Israel were given the land by the United Nations in 1948.
Jews hadn't owned Israel for 3400 years prior to that. They were pushed out of the land by the Assyrians, who in turn had the land taken from them by the Arab Muslims. The Arab Muslims became the modern Palestinians.
Israel was taken from those who had lived there for centuries, against their will, and given back to the Jews, who have subsequently treated anyone but Jews like complete shit since.
They literally just became a Jewish Ethnostate who put Palestinians in a country sized Ghetto, which is bitterly and depressingly sad and ironic considering what Nazi Germany did to the Jews that led to this mess.
Literally all these problems could have been solved in the UN in 1948 just said - no, you can't have Israel back. You can instead have some land in America, we have plenty of it.
But god forbid the Human race make a collectively good decision in moments of humanitarian crisis.
❤️God promised that land to Abraham whose son is Ishmael and Ishaac, whose descendents are the arabs and the jews.
📖Proofs from Bible and Torah
🖌Suggested watch: "Arabs and Israel-Conflict or Conciliation?" by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat
💜All live together in harmony
💙Peace🌿
@@darkrain491 there were jews there before 1948, and although a majority arabs, not that many and they were also partly immigrants.
What was said was essentially that muslims could have Jordan and jews could have Israel, much like India was partitioned. I think it's fine.
Jews have been persecuted and pushed out of two dozen arab countries and Israel is 0.2% of that land mass, which is a smaller proportion than their numbers versus the arab muslim numbers. The palestinians will just have to move over and join their muslim arab brothers in the arab world. It's not ideal, but the world isn't ideal.
Benny just keeps taking Ls. He’s no longer arguing with intent, just emotions
That was offered to you many times and declined. No more deals. Time for Palestine to be no more
If you ever want to know who's in charge, find out who you aren't allowed to criticize.
Which seems to be muslims lately. Lots of antisemetic comments. Not many people commenting on the fact israel has missiles fired at it every single day by terrorists for decades now.
Trans people? Blacks? Gays? Women?
Are you really saying all the people youre not allowed to criticise (non whites) are 'in control'?
What a poor argument.
What the f are you talking about?
Because the only country you are not allowed to criticise publicly is the USA.
This is pretty misleading? Cause we cant criticize Palastine, or Israel. It's always a debate.
The problem here, is that the whole debate is misleading. It's not about israel, and its not about the palastinians. It's about Hamas, who wont let palastinians know peace.
The palestinians are just as bad. Look up the videos of people asking if they are okay with Hamas hiding behind their chidlren. They are fine with it. The videos of people asking if they want jews dead, yes they want jews all dead. The videos of them asking palestinians if they want israel gone, yes they do.
They do no accept a 2 state solution.
It has been offered 5 times.
The last offer included israel offering to basically build them an entire city at Israels expense.
Denied.
They just want the jews dead man.
@@natakug1
You can’t fix that type of ignorance
Islam means rabbies , it spread if u talk to them
Why would ANYONE want equal rights for all citizens? Since the beginning of time, all people have NEVER had equal rights, why would any intelligent individual ever think that will be different. Wake-up people. People who treat women like property and second-class citizens, don't d ______.
She stated everything factually and accurately, and yet Ben somehow got that she wants a genocide? Now who’s afraid of facts and logic
I mean it is logical, is it not? In Israel, there are many Muslims. In Gaza, there are no jews. Would Gaza extend over to the golan heights, there would also be no more jews.
No one seems to understand what it's supposed to happen, which is a lowering of the Flag of israel and a timed mass exodus back to their forefathers homeland in Spain and Germany, where they came from in forty eight.... Any child can understand this but evidently their thirst for power blurs their vision..
she was doing TAQQIYAH
@@oplars6487maybe because nobody wants to live in the place nicknamed the literal LIVING PRISON OF LAND. They already had it bad before this and it just got worse for them now
Its not her fault that when you think of a Muslim, the first stereotype is "Terrorist"
Weakest one is the one who interrupts
😂🍲
Huh.. no wonder my mother does it a lot XD
The weakest ignorant one is always the loudest
He knows
?
So genocide means renaming a country and taking it back and allowing for Jews to live with Muslims Palestinians and Christian Palestinians in peace but genocide is not ethnic cleansing?? The girl is not advocating for the destruction of Jews or Israelis though I do understand such a peaceful world where the Palestinians peacefully take their land back would end with lots of blood shed but in an ideal world that is what she and I believe. But this world is not so simple and peaceful and so she is not stupid enough to advocate for something like that since she knows it will not be peaceful but she advocates for a ceasefire and perhaps even human rights to protect the Palestinian people.
"the terrorists that run my country are all for equal rights"
Lol
"Facts don't care about your feelings" untill they are the facts you don't like
Which facts would those be exactly? She's basically claiming that Israel is part of Palestine when the state of Israel predates the State of Palestine by 40 years.
@@francois853 some facts ben wouldn't like?
Israel funded Hamas to split the Palestinian people.
Jews don't have a birthright to expel people from Palestine, they aren't the chosen people.
The entire world is seeing how much Israel lies and commits crimes towards humanity.
@@francois853About 4000 years,I thought.
Palestine was named palestines by the Roman’s to lick the Jews that resides within ISRAEL, the county Jacob made , by trying to rename it something to reflect the Phillistines. Hamas and Hasbullah are TERRORISTS. If they weren’t genocidal towards Jews there would be some in Palestine, there are more Palestinians alive in Israel than Jews in Palestine under Hamas rule for damn sure
@@francois853number one, when Israelis asked for palestine, it was asked after the land was promised to the natives
Free Palestine from Hamas.
From israel
Wtf
*from Israhell
Free Palestine from nazi Israelis
Free palastine from the jews
Palestinians living in Israel and following Israeli law have the exact same rights and privileges as every other citizen. It's only the people who refuse to accept the Israeli government who are restricted in their activities, and that is a direct result of their terrorist activities.
That's not what I hear from Israeli citizens. I heard they need special identification cards.
Israel is not a real state to begin with lil Ben. Let me ask lil Ben a few question’s now. How many years has this fake state of Israel been around huh? Is it true that Israel is a race of people without a country yes or no??? Is it not true that after ww2 a small portion of Palestine was designated for the Jewish community yes or no? Now is it not true that the Jewish community now is taking all of Palestine 🇵🇸 huh???? Simple question to answer???? Can the people of the world have these questions answered now huh lil ben lol 😂 😅😂😂 if you really want to understand better read the book holy wars by Karen Armstrong
Amen. A voice of truth, crying in the wilderness
@@adsffdaaf4170
In Amerika 🇺🇸 or other countries you don’t have special identification card ?
Wake up
they do NOT have the same rights and privileges at all. do your research before you spew lies.
My ancestors 50000000 years back owned the asia, europe. So everyone who lives within this area should get out, bcz i wanna live alone😂
Shapiro still sounds like an over-caffeinated hamster
Bros sounds robotic
Amen to that 😂
He is how every autistic male talks
That's the way intelligent, logical, rational people speak. Something tells me you are a liberal fanatic. Correct?
@@louis5555gmailsomething tells me you have never listened to an intelligent individual
bros trying to gaslight her into thinking she supports a genocide while supporting a genocide
you are tick as fuck.
Ok she wants a land where both jews and palastinians live... now who do the arab nations including palastine kill on site? oh yeah jews. So yes it would literally be a genocide and every pro palastinian would have a different view but i digress. She wants a fantasy land where religions dont exist and everyone loves each other and there is no greed. (its never gonna happen).
Not genocide its civilian casualties buddy
@@sirjacobsofunitedkingdom6845 completely different heres my proof:
@@sirjacobsofunitedkingdom6845that's a shit ton of civilian casualties then🤣, if they civilians just because Hamas uses them as human shields, why are Palestinians in the West Bank, a region Hamas doesn't control, still dying to Israeli attacks? They just kill Palestinians because they want to eradicate them and get them to fully leave their land.
@@sirjacobsofunitedkingdom6845 you’re delusional if you think 15,000 innocent civilians killed is collateral damage
Everybody in America thinks it’s gonna be like America everywhere else. It won’t work out like that.
This Jewish guy being a “lawyer” one can imagine how the mindset of Israel’s security forces works. Answer couldn’t be more clear than what the world has witnessed since 7 Oct.
Ben is blind with this one. He closed his ears on this matter.
I think a lot of people forgot Ben is Jewish lol. His minds never going to change on this one.
Personally I think we should kick both the Jews/Muslims out and Israel/Palestine and give it to the Christian’s 🤷♂️
They are the most stubborn
Nah, he's pretty spot on. Hating Jews is baked in to Islam. There couldn't be a peacful "Palestine" to replace "Israel". Check out how the Palestinian Islamists indoctrinate children with their TV shows.
Make his other arguments look a sketchy 😂😂😂😂😂
@@AkexAlvarezliterally all of his arguments are bs the only reason most people follow him is bc he was a meme, then he was the funny sounding guy who said stupid shit, then he started acting like he knew what he was yalking about so people just believe him as a refutable source, he literallh said the barbie movie making a joke about saying barbie is ugky now and how using margot robby was a bad example, he got nad and said "then why did you even write it in" bc bro cannot understand a ioke or any sort of nuance, he is legitimately stupid, the only thing he knows how to do is consistently talk over people so they cant get their point out so he sounds right.
He just admitted that Palestine is occupied 😂
He did?
@@taylorwilliams6583yep
It was Judea before it was renamed so "Palestine" is just made up and the "Palestinians" aren't a real people. "Palestinians" are the occupiers moron
He didn’t
Your IQ must be 1 digit
There is no such a state as Palestine.
Ask him for policy to be free from the river to the sea does not mean the dismantle of a Jewish presence in Palestine. It’s only means that the Palestinians have the right to rule over their own land and for those who live on Palestine that have to carry Palestinian passport by permission of the government of Palestine. Many Jews that came to Palestine have passports from other countries if you don’t want to stay in Palestine, you are free to go back from wherever you came from but Palestinians have no luxury of another passport and they should not be forced to leave their land
At this point hes useless
Ben is so good at mischaracterizing the arguments of others. This person wants equal rights for Jews and Palestinians, he takes that to mean eliminating Jews.
Well, from what we’ve seen from Hamas’ official posts, they seek the complete annihilation of the jews, which is what’s causing the israel counter offensive in the first place. It’s the Jews in Israel who actually practice what they preach; they coexist with the Muslims and Christians in their country.
Perhaps the Muslim lady receives her information from biased Islamic sources, which is fair since I’ve learned about this conflict by watching these viral Ben clips, and longer form explanations from multiple center or right leaning sources
there are Arab Israelis fighting in the IDF... Aren't there Palestinians living in Israel? Are there any Israelis living in Gaza?
yea hipocrisy at it best
Typical Zionist response apparently. They want to eliminate everyone so they gaslight everyone else
She wants to Israel to be called Palestine and be controlled by arabs which obviously not gonna let Jews live by their side so where is he wrong
People forget that palestine celebrated 9/11.
And Oct 7th too.
She said it right ,you pushed away the Palestinians.
I didn't know Ben was that strong and powerful.
israelis won their occupuation un somwthingmlike right?
Arabs and other pro-Palestine militant groups started wars against Israel which they will obviously lose and lost most of their lands. There is no wrong here.
If Arabs accepted a two state solution in 1947, there wouldn't have been any conflict like this
He's an orthodox jew. He wants Palestinians support like he wants skinheads support.
And Egypt and Lebanon. They kicked them out too
Shapiro is a comic genius. I can’t watch him for more than a minute without laughing at him. He’s the funniest character I’ve ever seen.
Fighting for a country to exist that she would never live in.
Bro is struggling. Literally his best argument is to not let you talk
🎯💯🎓 Facts! Pure facts.
Struggling? He’s a literal professional debater who’s shut down idiots left and right, also there’s more depth to this she is accusing Israel of promoting apartheid. Ben pointed out that if Israel is guilty of apartheid then why are there zero Jews in either Gaza or the West Bank.
@@RealAntonCastilloThere are zero Jews in those areas because the Jews are the ones who pushed the Palestinians into those areas.
@@RealAntonCastillo "He’s a literal professional debater" nope, he is not. He may look like a pro debater, because he "debates" only with students.
Have a look at his interview with Piers Morgan or other intelligent, educated people who see thorugh his BS talking, then you can really see his experience in real debating: nothing pro about it.
@@johnscaramis2515 Ok let me rephrase It’s like 2 am so I’m tired😂, he’s a world known politician and debater that travels around the world to talk and debate, nonetheless no one is always 100% right or 100% smart at times so I’ll give you that one where he had an issue with another debater/ him interrupting at times because he expects the person to answer his question simply
You can't trust a group of people you aren't allowed to judge or question.
I love this ❤
Exactly, you can't trust muslim.
Better add blacks to that as well the first time you call them out for anything you're a racist, bigot, nazi, etc.
So... You can't trust to black people, gay people and all that "woke" people?
What group?