Konnan on: why is Vince Russo denying the success WWE are having?
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KONNAN talks about if VINCE RUSSO is angry that TONY KHAN never offered him a job in AEW ua-cam.com/video/CvtdAZHRuik/v-deo.html
Appreciate the longer vids .. 29 ads in 6 mins ain't gone work
Russo has said numerous times he left WWE because he needed more time with his family and he was being overworked. The one time Vince gave him all the help he needed. He ran and made it an excuse of him being buried when he could’ve just been a team player but instead he pushed an entire year angle as if there’s not 15 people in the room that are already planning things.
Russo's WCW was a shitshow, but Russo's TNA era was a lot more fun than people give him credit for
2006-2008 was watchable as fuck; I didn't start watching it weekly until Angle jumped, but overall I liked it more than WWE during that time, and I watched RAW/TNA/Smackdown religiously every week
Pretty sure Dutch and Corny were heavily involved during this era, along with Scott D'Amore, so he can't be given full credit, but at least a bunch of people actually fucking had something to do, which is a big Russo principle
If you liked pre-Hogan Spike TNA gimmie a shell yeah
Also Russo booking TEW with newLegacy is peak comedy
"Bray's in the ring, the lights go out, they come back on, Bray's still in the ring. Then he hits a sister Abigail on a chicken neck"
Shell Yeah
Russo didn't kill WCW...but he def drove it into a wall at full-speed.
Do you blame the child for driving into the wall or do you blame the adult that gives the child the car keys and says “go ahead kid, take her for a spin.”
Vince Russo turned Mike Awesome into that 70s guy, I just can’t get over it
"The Fat Chick Thriller" 🙄
Poor Mike Awesome
@@TnCouponer yeah man he killed himself cause of that gimmick
Get over it
Didn’t he also ask if Jericho and Hunter had ever wrestled after just having main event evented WrestleMania?
Russo is even insufferable and long winded on 2x speed. He literally sounded like a normal speaking cadence, and it was just as obnoxious.
He said he doesn't wanna work with people who think they know everything and have no respect for anyone , he just described why none wants to work with him, the ego of this man, only HE can write a wrestling show, only HE has the knowledge, only HE should be given total control. If younger, cant possibly have a new current take, if same age , you cant possibly write a fresh show, you're in the bubble, if outside wrestling, you don't get it, if in , on and on, excuse, excuse. Why would anyone want to work with him, 2025 is NOT 1997, get over it
Could it be that Russo is annoyed that WWE is bigger now that his era? Yes TV ratings don't matter as much but WWE are selling more tickets, regardless of price, than they have in years.
@loooooooongstanding2141 Only reason russo kept getting a job was because he the 2 top stars in wrestling at the same damn time rock and Austin
No, he wants to gaslight WWE into thinking he knows what to do and he’s begging for a job. He’s done this for years. “Look how bad your product is, I’m the only guy who can help”
This has to be sarcasm. No one has watched pro rasslin since the silent era, for crying out loud. You’re joking ya?
@@jimbowlan5804meh. Both were benefactors of the NWO
@@CulEdzno one would want to work for the Fed in 2025
Cause Russo is jealous
you don't have to watch WWE to understand how good they're doing just like we don't have to watch AEW to know how badly they're doing.
Neither are doing any good. Anyone who watches pro rasslin in 2025 would never ever admit it to anyone they know who is normal & even remotely well adjusted, freeek
WWE on Netflix has already lost 50% of its viewership in 3 weeks. That's not a good sign.
probably alot more. netflix has done nothing to bring in any new viewers long term just like the 5m fox deal didnt.
Boss they were going to lose live viewership when you can watch later. They're still #9 globally and #5 in the US on netflix. They're fine.
Not liking WWE is one thing, I personally don't like Kendrick Lamar, but to deny WWE's (or Kendrick's) success is just silly.
Go play in traffic, you we!rd0 mark 🎯 🤤 🥴
Who cares really?
Vince Russo not liking something is not life changing.
@ “who cares really?” is in regards to pro rasslin in general
Obviously you do by commenting @@TheNinthHeart
@@TheNinthHeartyou care more then any person I’ve ever seen bud😂🤦🤡
Russo has Hogan levels of revisionous history. Russo laying out a year of TV was stripping everyone of titles and having constant tournaments
WWE is doing better than the doldrums of the PG/Cena era but it's easy to outdo your rock bottom.
They are making more money now than ever before. In business cuz that’s what pro wrestling is, a business, bottom line is this is the most successful and profitable era in history. Ppl have weird memories of the attitude era. It was 3 minute matches and 30 minutes of promos.
If it's so easy, why isn't AEW doing it?
@@jj204 can i get some stats on how a company is somehow doing better even though they were acquired by another company and now actually have less assets and resort to aggressive marketing like prime and all ?
I can't remember the guys name. Bin or Vin or whatever but he has to be the most ignorantly obnoxious person. As hard to listen to as Billi boy
Russo is the crazy ex, who pretends that she was the best thing ever to happen to you, and then pretends it was all your fault. Now, she can't take that you're getting remarried to someone much better. 😊
Ha.
Russo is super wealthy & lives in a gorgeous home in one of the few desirable places in murica, has a wife, children; grandkids etc. what in the world are you even talking about, you basement dwelling rabbit 🤤 🐇 🎯 🥴
@TheNinthHeart yeah ok. So, then he's a fraud? By the way, what kid of weirdo are you stalking Russo?
Ha.
well he DID run the best WWF era of all time - so maybe he was the best ex and wwe just haven't recovered since
@@suleymanshah-uv3ig yeah, but in that scenario, the ex wouldn't still be talking about it for weeks on end.
Ha.
@@TheNinthHeartdude you’re the most disturbed wrestling fan I’ve ever seen. You need to stop watching so much wrestling and get out more
Russo the best writer in the history of wrestling ??? Lol i kno thats your boy and all but thats taking it too far
Russo has a lot of nerve talking about how everyone in TNA knew more about wrestling than him considering how he got into wrestling. He might as well be Cornette talking about him.
Based on what I heard Russo came back to WWE and pitched a program between 2 guys who just headlined WM and he didn't even know it showing everyone he didn't he follow the product.
Disco is like if ALLLLLL the people that can do a Kermit the Frog impression DIED and this THIS is all we had. And he interrupted the good part.
Russo books for the simple minded
WWE is making more money than Tony Khan has to ask for this Daddy to help cover AEW's losses
That’s not true the amount tk loses on aew is way more than wwe profits 😂 the video game alone omg I can’t think of another video game that lost that much money & that’s just the video game.
@jayramos6942 that video game deserves it's own episode of Dark Side Of The Ring
@@philwalsh8975get some help, kid. take everyone’s advice. Meet a girl, hit the weights, get a clue, and for crying out loud: stop bleeding off of mommy’s retirement fund 🤤 🥴 🎯
“Dark side of the ring”. Wow. Cringe!
@@TheNinthHeart who?
It always blows my mind that Russo believes that everyone else will believe that he’s the smartest person in the room when he tells these stories😂😂😂
Corny does the same thing except he was never apart of anything successful where others give him credit or infamy like Russo. He just hopes we all nod along about the Midnight express like he had something amazing no one really remembers as well as Hulkamania.
@ yeah I don’t see the similarities really. I’ve never heard Corny talk as if he was the god of wrestling booking. Personally I’ve never heard him really pat himself on the back for his booking choices. His philosophy on wrestling, sure. But I’ve never heard him speak like he was ever gods gift to wrestling the way Russo does.
@@darthbigred22of course you bring up Jim even tho he had absolutely nothing to do with anything being discussed in this clip
@@darthbigred22 THEY ALL FCKING DO IT. The marks will ignore anything their favs do and will just project
@@BrendanFinnagin like how every post talks about aew wether you talk about aew or wwe ?
One, I wasn't writing tv for them . Two, they didn't like my writing. Lol
Why is a guy who constantly has said wres-a-lin killed/damaged him, etc constantly grifting in it still. You're a rite-er BRO, why not do something in that field...oh, cause for someone who brags about having a degree in it, you are horrible at it, on paper and on screen. Right guy/time/advocate for change, and did contribute, not taking that away. History showed he was in structured environment with other smart people/performers, left alone,. isn't a talented writer. Its not a talent to write low-brow, ocd, women bashing-name calling , t&a tv, sorry, a real writer can produce compelling television/words, not stunts , insider terms and confusing storylines. Watch his wcw shows, is a work, but a shoot, no a work-shoot, but lets go against script, we will make ratings, lets mark out for this swerve, all this was ON the damn tv show, He was the kid showed the cool lingo/hand gestures and rest of his life wants to use them to show, see, I was allowed in the club.
wwe has always appeared financially viable like all the fcking time
Russo is very bitter he would sell his soul for a job
Disco’s voice…. 😑
The product is not that good. The praise he gets is weird it almost feels fabricated. The shows are very mid and the stories are on the weaker side.
I've been saying it. He built his whole existence and persona on "I'm the guy who built the WWE in the attitude era. They haven't done anything since"
If they are good now then his importance is lessoned so he has to pretend that they are not good. When were was dogshit he could skate on it even if no one believed him. Now he just shows how delusional he is saying it's terrible still. There may be periods that it's boring but it's not terrible.
Does anyone ever watch Russo's stuff? No one cares about this.
Russo never has denied the success that WWE is currently having. No one has...hes critical of the underneath stuff that makes warching it boring. Things like last night....Creeds going for titles that was never built up to??? The charisma of the faction is off eating tacos and yells these two to win gold....thats not a story. Thats minimalistic booking from A to B.
If people, like his friends Konnan and Disco actually listened to his shows in context, these misinformed clips here wouldnt be a thing.
The WWE in 2024-25 is like a 9-7 or a 10-6 team winning the division when the other teams in that same division finished 3-13 or 5-11. It's important to note that they don't have real competition so their success is by default. It would be concerning if they weren't successful given how much of an open field they have. 1990s WWF success and 2025 WWE success looks and means two different things given the competition. WCW doesn't exist anymore, ECW doesn't exist anymore. So who is around to seriously challenge the WWE?
Thanks for answering my question crew.
If WWE was big like it was in the late 90s it'd be like Stranger Things or Avengers level big. You could even argue rap metal got big because WWF entrance themes.
Make sense?
It's not THAT big right now. A lot of you grew up in the doldrums of WWE so you think anything beyond Let's Go Cena/Cena Sucks must mean massive success. It's not it's just how far it had fallen which was our complaint then and now.
In fact you won't even need to debate it when it happens.
He outright refuses to acknowledge any advancements. I asked him about Sami and the bloodline stuff the other week and he said he hates him the same. Idk man thats stupid to me.
Too much indie garbage on the shows. A lot of jabroni’s nobody knows or cares about.
I still remember right after the Hall of Fame, Russo was so convinced people were praising him cause he was gonna get replaced soon after. I feel Russos issue with WWE is a combination of Russo thinking no one could outdo what he did cause he had huge ratings in 1998, and him having heat with HHH.
And also, anything Bin Hamin says, goes in one ear, out the other. He talks as if he knows anything bout anything in business with wrestling. We've known and has been revealed years ago about skewing attendance numbers. But like Disco said, you can't do that with internet numbers when it's easily researchable.
It's funny you brought up heat with Triple H cuz he recently slighted him on Jalen Brunson podcast
@blakefranklin882 ah I didn't know about that, but my reasoning for the heat is cause Russo had Chyna on his show, where she said that HHH hit her the night she confronted him about Stephanie, and he'd take shots at HHH after that. That's just my conspiracy, I'm sure they had heat in the WWF before
Hes trying to get viewers.
Russo's audience, of which I am a member, is made up of older fans from the Nitro/Attitude era who were never marks but loved that particular era of the business. We hate modern wrestling as a whole, which includes WWE and AEW. We also notice that when Vince was critical of AEW and Tony Khan no one batted an eye. Suddenly however, when he's not willing to shill for the WWE, appease their dimwitted mark fans, or just mindlessly put that product over, that's when a lot of people online turned against him.
Russo wants a job but he knows they are not fucking with him
Russo had a two year run and then several medicore years. He makes money now hating on everything. It's just the way it is.
Vince Russo sucks, he’s why I stopped watching wrestling as a child. His DQ SHMEEE Q argument with Jim Cornette after there were 7 DQ’s out of 8 matches on RAW. I turned to drugs, partying and chasing girls instead of watching wrestling. Maybe I should thank him but his writing still sucks.
Maybe Russo thinks he will fail yet again. Dunno why they don't bring that up.
The funniest part of all of this is Vince Russo is completely working Disco and everyone, apart from Disco himself, is falling for it.
So Disco knows he’s being worked?
Hahahah yea ok buddy
Russo would never tell Vince McMahon how to run his business or that his business is lacking in any way. Anyone who could was fired and by 2002 WWE was hotter then than in 98 so Russo saying WWE was subpar in anything after he embarrassed himself in WCW is a joke in itself. That’s why Cornette calls him an insufferable prick who’s been fired from everywhere he’s been.
Post-1982, WWE had two periods of true success: 1986-89, and 1997-99. Obviously. Everyone knows that
Don't worry Disco and Konnan, another year of brown nosing will get you a legends contract in no time!
My favorite part of the show is listening to Disco and Joe struggle with 4th grade level vocabulary.
Russo man. When the attitude era started I was like 8 9. Now I’m almost 40 with a 10 year old girl. Russo hasn’t been relevant since I was a kid. Bottom line. Best writer? Why.
Ok, but then there's a few things with WWE I like, few things in WWE I don't like as well. The issue I am having with WWE is I am seeing the holes in the booking are much bigger of a hole then I have seen in WWE prior. Examples you have Roman saying "I'll see you January 27th MNR" and he doesn't show up on MNR
Roman didn't say that though. What's wrong with you?
@jackiejones3296 go back and hear Roman say he had a surprised for Heyman on January 27th
Dude, he said that was the night to "celebrate him becoming the Chief" again. Which was the day the video game cover was revealed.
What is the deal with you marks being so upset about something they didn't even understand?
Because the product is very boring to watch. (It's a successful business though it's terrible at being entertaining.)
What's the point of claiming to be a "born again christian" and still being envious and jealous of people who are able to write a story line where a guy isn't selling a woman?
Because he’s not a part of it. Absolutely nothing to do with it
Post-1999, the Fed is irrelevant
i can say that old tna 2000s and mid wayy frickin better than todays wrestling
No there not they really aren’t
Streaming is the New Ratings nowadays.
The new ratings are on streaming and Social media, the Hits, LIKES, ON UA-cam, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter/X are the new ratings in today's streaming landscape...cable cable and regular television is dead nowadays. 2 million viewers on basic cable today is like 11 million nowadays.
And yet their numbers on Netflix are horrible.
@CoolCATs2814 No there not moron they get 5 million viewers each week.
That's huge 😂
@@CoolCATs2814 And also you have reading comprehension....The LIKES and HITS they get on Social Media are considered the new Landscapes ratings. The Hits and likes they get on UA-cam and Instagram and Facebook and all over social media is the new modern ratings because thats what everyone is watching nowadays...everyone is on their phones today.
Nobody is sitting around their television anymore.
Get with the times.
They are now mainstream again...they get mainstream attention now from mainstream podcasts and UA-camrs.
You have Joe Rogan, Shannon Sharp, Bravo, ESPN and they are now inviting WWE superstars on SNL ... that's letting you know they are mainstream.
Once you see them on SNL and mainstream talk shows and All the top podcasts then they've made it.
So Russo hates wrestling and talking about it.
Yet, he has to do it daily for hours on end for UA-cam views.
But, you wouldn't go back to WWE for million dollars?
Sounds like he needs that money.
Ha.
Russo ALWAYS has excuses.
Losing 90% of your audience isn't "Success", I don't care how much money the remaining 10% are spending. Nobody is watching wrestling anymore. You used to see hot chicks in the crowd, and wrestling shirts all over the Mall, school, and at work. You don't see any of that anymore. The people who say wrestling is in a booming period are very clearly people who are not going outside and leaving the house to see that for every 1,000 people you might see 1 WWE fan. Yeah yeah yeah "But that 1 fan will go to all of the shows and buy all the merchandise with his Inheritance money". Wrestling has devolved into a cult. To be blunt it may never ever experience the haydays of the past. 30 million people watching Hogan vs Andre is a feat that won't ever be duplicated again, as wrestling doesn't even have 3 million fans left looking at the numbers, let alone 30 million. On the WWE social media the *Only* things that get *ANY* sort of viewership is content from the past. With the exception of Roman reigns, has *any* Current Wrestling star produced something that has generated over 10 million views? No correct?
Numbers do not lie.
Outside of sports, what show is doing the type of numbers they would have done 20 plus years ago? The answer is nobody. The fucking news dont even do the numbers they use to b/c media is so fragmented. I cant tell the last time i watched traditional cable outside of wrestling.
Well Russo needs to accept what is "edgy" nowadays is different from the late 90s
Edgy now would be LA Knight throwing a hitler salute or Dominic going into a speech about reconquista of the US because blacks and whites are too lazy. Edgy now would be a pro BLM group getting the shit beat out of them by a pro US group. Edgy now would be doing the black national anthem with the face coming out to beat up the singer. . Edgy now would be have your tweener face deny or question the Holocaust after defeating CM Punk.
The Attitude era made normies who weren't hip or cool uncomfortable, which nowadays would be the left since really they've been driving the culture for 18 years or so
Attitude era shits all over the good and bad of the 90s and to be edgy now you'd have to do the same, slay all the sacred cows.
Which is why AOL walked away from WCW because of the perception wreslting had at the time. It's THAT edgy for back then.
Yes. There was a brief period for a handful of years that the WWF was a fad. But so were fidget spinners.
Building a stable business 25 years after your trendy period ended is a major accomplishment.
Those numbers of Speed getting that much views is no surprise, dude has travelled around the world n has a large fanbase. Ofcox u wudnt knw that if u were an old man who watches CNN n Fox news n thinks the world is jus the United States of America
is Disco stuck in some type of time loop in that he has to talk about the exact same stuff over and over again?
Pretty easy. Jealousy, and he just wants the clicks. People respond to negativity quicker then positivity. Look at Corny.
Bro doesn't like anything he isnt a part of. Its obvious as hell.
Vince, that's not even an opinion. That's just being stupid.
Vince who, dweeeb?
@@TheNinthHeartbro you have a lot of gaul to call someone else a dweeb. You’re the biggest mark I’ve ever seen
Russo eats cottage cheese with Disco and they both like it
5:15 lmao
Russo has said Wawa’s sucks since 99 since he left he’s been on this since forever it’s online not hard to find . He thinks everything sucks unless he wrote it he’s always been like that. This is why I stop following him and un sub cause he talks so much shit yet won’t leave wrestling cause he needs it
Russo was a great writer???😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I mean jus bc your charging now more than ever for tickets and took your product mainstream doesn't mean the booking is good jus means whoever is running the pr and marketing dept are the geniuses..if we are being honest the product has been mid booking wise since summerslam and aew has turned a new corner of awful in booking
No one said that. Did you listen to this clip before leaving a comment?
@HughezyEntertainment I'm jus making a statement in general not directed to this particular jus a point I keep hearing alot about the WWE creative right now that just bc they are making money the creative is great..when I jus don't see it when no champion atm is over...people all agree Rhodes and Gunther's reigns have been underwhelming..bronn has been stuck in a going nowhere feud with Sheamus..how many titles defense has shinsuke had or what storyline has he been in since winning the title.tiffany was made to look like a complete jabroni by Charlotte.. jus some observations is all
Russo failed up his whole life. DEI for Jerry Springer fandoys
The show does suck though. No no wrestling fan is gonna sit through 3 hours of it.
So by using Vinces logic any segment during the period of the attitude era he was there which was shit does he take responsibility for that or was that somebody eles fault because anything good he takes full credit for. And for the record as he actually been asked as there been proof of this ??? Because if not then I don't believe him he's a attention seeker who can't stand the fact that WWE is doing ok and why would after all this time would they want him back when there doing so well just doesn't make sense 😅
WWE is not doing better ratings than 98 and 99.
@RonWeassly Yep my bad I didn't realize what I put till you mentioned it cheers
Speed is absolutely massive. I don’t follow live streamers at all and I even know who he is. They are basically saying “since I don’t understand the appeal it is fake”
Baaaa-ro
Vince seems a little like Bizarro Konnan. "He's the hating not stating" to Konnan's "Stating not hating"
With the minor miracles Triple H has pulled, I’m almost surprised Russo hasn’t been brought back into the fold, to one extent or another.
Triple nose has never drawn a single cent (ever) nor has he ever been relevant in rasslin in any way shape or form. Guy was terra ryzin in dubya see dubya, for crying out loud 🤦🏻♂️😂
@@TheNinthHeartmy god you’re just the most regarded mark I’ve ever seen
WWE only did a show to 65 thousand people? How embarrassing.
Meanwhile WWE never even came close to that kind of attendance while Russo was working there.
No one watches pro rasslin anymore nor will they ever again. It’s the most cringe & embarrassing entertainment medium, you basement dwelling freekshows
@@jeremystubner2626 Yeah you can tell who was a teen or adult in the late 90s early 00s and who wasn't.
WWF in it's heyday was so big other forms of entertainment constantly talked about it. Not to mention every venue they did play and house shows was sold out for years. Plus their entrance theme music helped usher in rap/metal and that general early 00s rock sound which the late 90s didn't have.
Nowadays it's mostly a Blackrock level scam: top down makes their money and investors keep thinking back to the 80s and late 90s thinking surely they'll get that big again.
I hate to say it but both eras are tied to one man and since no one other than maybe the Rock is that big anymore it's probably won't be for a long time.
Let me explain in your terms how edgy it would be nowadays: Imagine if LA Knight walked in and hit a Hitler salute and said good riddance to all the mexicans. And then say Dominic came in and began some nonsense about Mexicans are going to take over the US because blacks and whites are lazy and don't work. That's about how edgy it was back then for the late 90s early 00s.
You guys are sensitive and woke, you're more like the new generation era fans who were crying when SCSA shot someone the bird or the Rock called someone gay.
So is WWE doing better than the PG/Cena era? Sure but it's not hard to beat rock bottom.
Only thing embarrassing is you dorks who think wwe is mainstream nobody cares about wrestling
Then why comment if you don’t care. They are making record profits. If that isn’t successful what is. Honestly. You don’t get it.
I guess you guys underestimate Speeds reach. Especially in Europe.
KEEP IT 💯
“Joe I’m good!” 😂😂😂😂😂
Triple H is doing a great job but I cannot understand his thinking in releasing AOP yet keeping Natalya around.
AOP couldn't get over. They even brought in a legendary manager to help. Nothing worked. Natalya is a locker room leader and she's there to put people over and give them credibility.
She's a Hall of Famer and the other two are going to be working indies for the rest of their careers with spot appesran8on MLW, TNA or HoG..
It’s easy to understand, Nattie actually was smart enough to get her hands into other different departments to actually be useful like training, being a lockeroom leader, and in makeup. She’ll retire in wwe unless she wants to leave, she’s got it made.
@@mx49dad Paul Ellering was with AOP in NXT Black and Gold. All the internet fans loved them. Once AOP got to the main roster, Vince dropped Ellering. Triple H brought him back, but didn’t do anything significant with him.
@@d.52555 Plus, she’s part of the Hart family. It’s the same thing with Tamina. They’ve both reached, “auntie,” status. Everyone backstage loves them.
Because they suck, while Natalya can actually wrestle.
you twoa re jsut shlls for wwe and you can't hidne ti anyomreo
Like the 3M lost viewers since the Raw debut on a platform 4x larger than USA network? Or is he talking about something else…
When has Russo denied WWE's financial success? He rightfully criticises the quality of their product. Why should anyone celebrate over them making sh*tload amount of money or selling out every city and always bragging about it when they're not satisfied with the content the company is putting out on TV?
Russo does denies WWE's success all the time.
@@Hedgehobbit * financial success *
@@Hedgehobbit no he doesn't, their commercial success. He criticises their mediocre product.
Russo was hired back in 2002 maybe 🤔 he just doesn't slurp up everything wwe does like you wwe tribialist do
That's what I call talent! I only have a teapot that can sing, and not always😻
If laughter prolonged life, this video would make me immortal💚