Konnan on: was Jon Moxley better off in WWE than AEW?
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KONNAN reacts to BRET HART'S burial of JON MOXLEY ua-cam.com/video/XTnCLjltRDk/v-deo.html
Moxley is the worst in ring main event guy over the last 4 years. He blades himself on camera, he no sells everything and he puts no one over.
This is all I have to say about Jon Moxley: WWE thought so little of him that they announced 3 months in advance that he was leaving the company at a time when AEW was starting.
WWE knew that he sucked and wasn't worth the money he was asking for.
he could be fine under the right producers, but he quite clearly doesn't want to listen and is more interested in mutilating himself in front of smaller and smaller audiences.
Nah WWE unlike other wrestlers they release, they gave him a grand sendoff and it was under Vince regime. His final run in WWE after his return pre summer slam, suck coz of the booking and the direction.
But once he left WWE, he was also exposed for his limitations in the ring and character work. Some wrestlers works better under controlled environment Jon Moxley is one of them, Dean Ambrose still to this day is a bigger name.
@@ChrisJericho22 what sucked about it though? They pushed him as a top guy until the end.
3:14 skip rhe underdog thing
😂😂😂😂
Mox looked more healthy in WWE because they have standards.
WWE saved Mox from himself. AEW let's him run wild and it shows.
When the shield broke up Ambrose vs Rollins was the hottest thing going. From that, to this.
E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E is better off in WWE than AEW.
Except Ricochet & Hurt Business
@aniketsawant2240 no, I'm still right
@@aniketsawant2240ricochet was in a big program with Logan Paul and still couldn't make it work. I'd say Swerve but maybe pre AEW, now he'd definitely get a huge push if he were in WWE
Swerve?
You could argue Sting had a better run in All Inept.
Let's be honest, Mox is better off at AEW. I remember he was literally about to be jobbed out to Nia Jax before leaving WWE. 😂
Jon moxely took 1 mma class at the local ymac now he wants to be booked as some bad ass like brock lesnar.
He actually won a competition too.
AEW is where wrestlers go to have mid-life crisis's in public.
Jon Moxley went to AEW to live out his "i'm a tough guy" fantasy.
Adam Copeland went to AEW to prove "I can doing the crazy stuff younger guys do". He can't.
Chris Jericho went to AEW and literally got a wig and let him live out his rock star dreams... they play at state fairs or food festivals.
He got a wig 😭 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ReactwithRespect-i5i He does bro. Check out his photo of him and zoom in on the hardline. You can literally see the stitching in his head.
Yes! Jericho started losing his hair since 2007! , dude has a wig, hair pluhs, whatever 😂
Definitely was better in WWE. There's always money in another SHIELD reunion or match and feud of Moxley against Rollins or Reigns. Despite some of the bad ideas Vince had for him in his latter years with the company, he was never booked below the upper midcard, even if the company didn't see him on the same level as Rollins or Reigns. When he first started in AEW, he did a good job in reinventing himself, but after his first World Title run in AEW, it's been kind of downhill for him and the company at large.
Dean Ambrose got over and Jon Moxley is reaping the rewards
When The Shield debuted I was most hyped for Mosley...felt he had the biggest upside of the three.
Once they went their seperate ways though, it took about 3 months to realise he was the lesser of the three.
it's the endless pushing of Moxley that has made so any people aware of how clueless Tony Khan is. His first title run bombed.... so Tony Khan gave him THREE MORE title runs.
I've give Tony Khan credit for this: he was able to make Death Riders worse than Undisputed Kingdom and i never expected that.
He can't blame Vince McMahon anymore, as soon as he went over to AEW he was exposed. Now it's undeniable, Jon Moxley is not a top guy.
He's better off in WWE under triple H. At what point do they abandon the angle and give MJF the title back? Wheeler Yuta is supposed to be a scary guy at 160-170lbs? The girl is a complete joke as well.
Jon Moxley was called the Lunatic Fringe in WWE as a rib for his hair loss. I'm convinced of it.
Or it’s the name of a radio show he listened to growing up in cincy. Which was also called that, by his own admission
It was a slogan used by 102.7 FM station WEBN. In between songs or commercials, the clip would say “the lunatic fringe of American FM.” I grew up in CIN.
@@oddishhonor how would ANYONE know this?
@@gimmiebackmybike1831 because he’s said it himself in interviews.
@ thank you
Dean Ambrose > Jon Moxley. They protected him from his insanely bad ideas
Bobby Lashley defended titles at WrestleMania, had a long running angle with Brock Lesnar etc... Tony Khan signed him to make him a tag-team wrestler.
He's just got there, Swerve was a tag guy too at first and look at him now, a top guy.
@@newnamekian is he? He was given the AEW title for a short run but was never booked as the top guy at all.
Swerve is the only one in a better position in AEW over WWE. Everyone else is in the exact same spot or worse.
Of course he was better in WWE. They had a handle on him. Agents telling him what to do in matches,writers writing his promos. They all knew left to his own devices they would be getting what AEW is getting now. That's why he left. Let him say whatever nonsense he wants about terrible creative or they made him turn heel the day Roman announced his Lieukemia came back. He can't get his head out of GCW and they wouldn't let him do any of this cr*p Tony Khan lets him do.
Definitely. He had filters there to tell him what’s good and what’s bad. I don’t think he’s ever heard the word no since signing with aew. Absolutely nothing creatively to me at all.
There is more things for him to do in WWE right now that are far more interesting. Then anything he can do in AEW right now because we have seen it all. Like feud with The Bloodline, Seth Rollins, Cody Rhodes, Drew McIntyre, CM PUNK, Gunther, and Kevin Owen’s. Especially now under Triple H booking.
Drew McIntyre is basically doing Mox’s psycho gimmick, just better.
Brock Lesnar knew how talentless Moxley was as soon as he seen him.
I wish Brock would've had that garbage match with Mox and beat him with every weapon under the sun...u just know Brock wouldn't have held back 😂
He wrestles like he thinks he’s Mox Lesnar.
Moxley is 100% better off in aew. He's making $5 million a year to work one day a week (if that) and can do whatever he wants. His wife works there a day a week also. They get to stay home 6 days a week, spend money and raise their daughter. There's no way he was better off in wwe. Aew is the kind of place Scott hall and Kevin nash would dream of years ago. I wish I worked there tbh. Give me crazy money to work on a TV show once a week and I'll do whatever u want on the show. It doesn't matter if the things he does is bad. He's getting paid. Same with Mercedes mone. Is she terrible? Yes, but she's better off on aew. Everyone is if they like money and for less work. If that's what you're after as a wrestler then you'd love aew. Brock Lesnar should join. That would actually help the ratings.
Nobody misses Dean Ambrose!
Wrong
Everybody misses Dean Ambrose!
I definitely didn't like how they treated him before he left WWE. But had he would've stayed, I guaranteed we wouldn't be getting the Death Ratings Riders
1. all AEW did was expose why WWE let him go from the company.
2. the Easter Eggs in this thumbnail are instantly giving this video a thumbs up. Great work guys.
Moxley was better in WWE for career success, as they could put a leash on him and say "No".
He is better in AEW for writing the story he wants but that clearly does not align with the market.
Konnan just ended the Hurt Syndicate run because TK hears everything and Konnan just said it don’t look like TK writing. He ain’t going to like that 😂.
He was good as Dean Ambrose, but he doesn't have great ideas and he doesn't have a good direction for his career. He just can't let go of the goofy ass outlaw mudshow bullshit.
He sucked in both companies. Most overrated talent ever.
It's one of those "life's greatest mysteries" as to why people like him. Like how people think Big Bang Theory is funny. I don't get it.
I didn't watch a bunch of Big Bang Theory but I have to admit to enjoying it when I watched it.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL maybe I'm just an old fart
It's not what they are doing with Moxley....it's what moxley wants to do.
Moxley may be better off in WWE, but we're all better off with him in Aew.
Ha.
Jon Moxley was on ever popular in WWE because the IWC hated Roman Reigns so much. If you go back and look at his Dean Ambrose run, it really wasn't that good.
2013-2016, Dean was one of the more popular guys on the roster at that time. When the shield broke up, he had a lot of momentum in his favor as he made it his mission to make life hell for Seth. That first half of 2016 was him at his hottest. He cashed in that MITB and it was very well received. But after that shield triple threat, his run as the top guy on smackdown fell flat. Cena and AJ outshined him. He’s trying to get back to that level he was on in 2016, but he ain’t it.
@@Mrwonderful0212Jackie jones is Konnan burner account
@@Mrwonderful0212 yeah he was popular but he was never good. I remember his had his debut PPV match with Kane and it was so bad and it was entirely on Moxley.
@ popularity trumps in ring work always. Why is it that the audience rocked with Ambrose at that time compared to an Alberto Del Rio? (this was before the DV case by the way)
@@Mrwonderful0212 Ambrose was a wwe champion, that’s more prestigious than AEW champion. Therefore he had a good run in wwe.
Everything since Moxley formed the Blackpool Combat Club with Bryan Danielson has been bad in my opinion. Ambrose in WWE was great in the Shield and even after the breakup I found wacky Dean Ambrose way more entertaining than whatever Jon Moxley has been doing. His first WWE championship run, his feuds with Seth Rollins, AJ Styles and Kevin Owens, the reconciliation with Rollins leading to the first Shield reunion. It was a lot of fun, which is something I can't say about Jon Moxley now. The first two years in AEW and his run in New Japan as US champion before that were good but for 3:years or more he's been getting worse and worse.
I think they thought Shane Mcmahon was coming in and when that didn't happen they don't know what to do with that group.
WWE definitely. He was the only wrestler who wanted to go to Suplex City.
Moxley is DOING EXACTLY what Vince thought was stupid as hell
he's betterin AEW only because he's their prime player, but he's one dimensional. but in terms of more entertaining in WWE. He had more layers. Feels like he climbs over dollars for dimes, though.
His entrance music is more over than him
That 🎶 is corny. The Gunns, Swerve are the only ones with good 🎶 & Jericho when he had Judas. If you're eclectic Anna Jay, Orange Cassidy, Osprey & Adam Cole.
In WWE, he was in a group of badasses & then went solo.
In AEW, he started solo & then went into a group of badasses (and Wheeler Utah.)
Figure he's making double what he was in WWE & means less than half to the business...tough call.
Moxley was great in 2019 when aew first started. Horrible today
I like the Jon Moxley matches and character better than Dean Ambrose but he's been booked so poorly it couldn't be more disappointing
He makes a ton of money. Much more than in WWE and he is married to Renee. I think he is doing just fine 😅
HAS ANYONE EVER LISTENED TO THIS AND WATCHED CAPTIONS FOR DISCO😂😂😂😂? ITS HILARIOUS
he was my favorite in the shield
People also forget, Jon Moxley acts like a no selling, indomitable force, but he gets regularly choked out by random waiters and cashiers in jiu jitsu tournaments cause he’s not hard at all. He sucks
Jon Moxley is a bigger star today that youe ver were.
5 million people were watching nitro! 5 hundred thousand are watching aew!
I have never done a more complete 180 on a wrestler than Jon Moxley. His ideas suck, his work sucks, he looks like shit 90% of the time, and his promos are laughably bad; I will never forget the when MJF was working with Moxley he did an impression of him for about 7 seconds, and to me, as a fan, it completely and totally buried him. Fucking hilarious.
Max does the stupid walk and everything, look it up for a good laugh
He wasn't better off financially. Tony's legacy is overpaying that crew to a farcical degree.
I don't think he is making as much as disco thinks he is! I think it's 5 mil over 3 years.
I don't think disco is right about his contract. I think it's 5 mil over 3 years.
I'm not even going to listen to the discussion. Mox is not good in AEW but he is treated like Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin's love child there. He smashes over everyone, rarely ever loses and does whatever he wants.
In WWE he was talking to a fucking plant named Mitch, wearing Jimmy Wang Yang's gear and was the 3rd guy in the shield.
He is much better off in AEW.
With that being said, he is unbearable, regardless of promotion.
He was much cooler in the shield or back when he was in FCW.
Moxley only ever seemed like a good promo because Roman and Seth's promos were so bad. Moxley is the perfect example of being overrated.
They need to push Jimmy Utah
Mox eats cottage cheese with Cope and they both like it
Moxley was better Drunk
Hughezy you done Moxley bad here. He looks like Alex Jones
Moxley even in wwe, made my head and eyes bleed 😂😂, thank you tony money bags khan, on taking him and even better he took his wife as well, honestly ive never been happier seeing a interviewer leave, she was and is i here still dreadful, thats it Renee Moxley Good 😂😂😂
His two friends are main eventing pay per views in the largest promotion in the world in front of millions of viewers and he’s kidnapping the rock and roll express in empty arenas on a Saturday show with only 300k viewers and cutting ultimate warrior style promos but instead of being coked out he’s just drunk
He's way better in AEW he was getting buried in WWE and being put on lower cards!!
KEEP IT 💯
Jinder Mahal was a better champ
Unfortunately. I don’t see how he fits into the main event picture. Over this amount of time and his own history. Grumpy and on leave for substance abuse
you pop youre head into an aew dressing room, and see...... edge, christian, jericho, jeff jarrett, jake roberts, dustin rhodes, billy gunn. wtf. 😂😂
Does moxley control his own creative?
He would have been a bigger star, making more money, but he wouldn't have been able to do all the dumb $hit he likes
Dean Ambrose was better than Jon Moxley
60 year old Ricky Morton no sold on him when he was TIED UP. Such horseshit...
Moxley is really bad in the ring and his promos are annoying.
Yes,But i always thought he was overrated, he always made wrestling look bad.
I hated his offense,Ambrose seemed like a clumsy dude especially that rebound clothes line.
MoxBrose aint even mid to me,thats how bad he is.
When he stopped wrestling like a spaz when he on smackdown live I think he was better
Stone cold steve moxley was better in wwe been pused to the moon like reigns and rollins
He is better in aew$$$$ its all of that suffer!
Bogus punches....lame promos....Stone Cold cosplayer
He was bad in WWE. The njpw match before aew started was pretty good. Nothing has resembled that before, or after, that I've seen. He's horrendous more than ever now. I stopped watching and he's still embarrassing
No