Does Japan have a plastic problem?

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  • Опубліковано 22 вер 2022
  • In my videos about Japan I'll often get comments about the amount of plastic used. Does Japan have a plastic problem?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 550

  • @JustinKoenigSilica
    @JustinKoenigSilica Рік тому +934

    I'm a Chemist. Unless we break down the polymers back into their building blocks (monomers), all plastics can only be mechanically recycled a very limited number of times, before the mechanical properties significantly change. This is due to the chain length of the polymer decreasing with further and further recycling. Hope this clears up some misconceptions on plastics.

    • @Kelvin_Foo
      @Kelvin_Foo Рік тому +42

      I second this opinion, recycled plastics have challenges meeting the mechanical strength and moldability requirements that virgin plastics can easily meet, this is why blends are used instead of straight 100% recycled.

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 Рік тому +3

      How true is the process to take most plastics, and, through a not too complicated process, turn them back into certain grades of oil?

    • @JustinKoenigSilica
      @JustinKoenigSilica Рік тому +9

      @@j.lietka9406 not true. We can turn them either into simple chemicals (ethylene, carbon monoxide. And the like) or we can turn them back into their monomers (their building blocks), depending on the polymer. The latter is easy-ish for PET, not sure how much it is used industrially though.

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 Рік тому +2

      @@JustinKoenigSilica even tho there is supposedly a large or semi large plant in Australia that is taking waste plastics (some types I believe) and turning back into an oil product? Really?! Too good to be true?!

    • @greghelton4668
      @greghelton4668 Рік тому +1

      There is an Australian company that converts plastics back into crude-like oil. Not sure how much energy is required in the process.

  • @theresalwayssomethingtobui944
    @theresalwayssomethingtobui944 Рік тому +384

    At the moment, I work in plastic recyceling research and in the first 3,5 minutes you covered SO much knowledge students at our uni have to learn in 3 years - that's really great! Also the method you used to determine how much plastic/ g food is used is actually scientifically correct. Thanks for all the source material, I am in fact interested in studying if there's a difference in the way Japan and Europe treat their plastic waste. (seems not so much) So your video is motivating me to follow up on that question!

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer Рік тому +3

      @@princess-violet I can say after introducing deposits on all small plastic water and soda bottles last year. Here in the Netherlands you do notice it when collecting litter of the streets.
      (before 2021 only larger bottles did have deposits on them)
      So in that sense it did really work if it only reduces the trash dumped in the streets then even that is a win.

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 Рік тому

      I asked another person on the list of comments, can certain types of plastics be turned into a kind of crude oil? Or is that just hype? Thank you 🤓

    • @JasonGamingForever
      @JasonGamingForever Рік тому +2

      @@j.lietka9406 yes. For instance number 2 (US) plastic HDPE is High Density Poly Ethylene. Breaking the bonds that make it dense and removing some of the plastic additives like calcium through the process of gasification can make a material that is chemically similar to fuel. Though it is somewhat impure the main issue with it is the cost and the CO2 cost to convert it. Both are sky high.

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 Рік тому

      @@JasonGamingForever I kind of wondered about how much it costs to make! At least with a kind of oil or eventually fuel, it doesn't have to be recycled again. Can the CO2 be contained? Which is another problem! Thank you 🤓

  • @Lee-ic8ln
    @Lee-ic8ln Рік тому +196

    Here in the states, we have a huge plastic problem where over 90% of "recycled" plastic aren't recycled. The plastic industry lobbied hard to prevent one of our senators, Sheldon Whitehouse, from passing legislation that will limit their use.

    • @hydrazine884
      @hydrazine884 Рік тому +13

      Maybe it's where/when I grew up here in California or how I was raised, but it has always seemed kinda crazy to me how most people don't recycle. Like when out and about, people would just throw out an empty Coke bottle out instead of looking for a recycle bin (my family would usually hang on to it to recycle later for CRV). But I suppose if most "recycled" plastic isn't actually recycled, I guess it kinda (but not really) justifies people being lazy. Also, I guess some people haven't gotten into the habit of it since not every state, county, city, etc. has a recycling program.

    • @__aceofspades
      @__aceofspades Рік тому +19

      I moved into an area where my trash company routinely just picks up the recycling bin and dumps it with the regular trash. its AWFUL. Not only because it wont be separated and recycled in some form, but all the water used to clean the plastics before recycling also is now wasted.

    • @southcoastinventors6583
      @southcoastinventors6583 Рік тому +21

      Better off incinerating it or going back to glass and or combustible packaging. Recycling plastic is joke at this point. This video is just another nail in the coffin of the myth of plastic recycling.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 Рік тому +10

      I find it crazy that brands known for their glasses bottles recently switched to plastic despite the huge recycling push since the 90s (I'm looking at you Snapple and Sobe).

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer Рік тому +1

      ​@@hydrazine884 to be fare it is often a long proses to get people to change habits.
      You do see certain programs for schools and what not. and if a community would do that well. So schools, offices, shops, free time clubs and even a portion of the homes of students going to said school. Those kids can start a habit of at least throwing there trash in different bins.
      Here in the Netherlands for most it also took about a 30 years work to get to the level we are now. and there is still a long way to get better still.

  • @ZalyQQ
    @ZalyQQ Рік тому +32

    Great video, all wonderful points.
    Remember the 3 R's. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. There's a reason why recycle is the LAST on the list. Reducing usage and finding reusable solutions are MILES ahead of recycling.

  • @dominikseljan3043
    @dominikseljan3043 Рік тому +260

    Really well researched and communicated video Greg. You never disappoint with new and interesting topics!

  • @idasaks
    @idasaks Рік тому +88

    I am Norwegian and very happy with our bottle recycling system. It is very nice to collect a lot of bottles and get money back for them! I always keep my bottles until I can recycle them.

    • @tanjamoira3457
      @tanjamoira3457 Рік тому +12

      Same here in Germany! I think that the recycling system for plastic bottles and even glas jars is actually quite effective at keeping garbage off the streets. As a college student, it's quite nice to know that you can make a little money from the heaps of beer and soft drink bottles that tend to pile up in dorms :D And many homeless people and senior citizens tend to collect those bottles,which do end up in the regular garbage or get thrown out carelessly, to collect the return bonus. In a way, the system is quite ingenious. I always wonder how this could be transferred to other types of materials.

    • @Yo_Hahn
      @Yo_Hahn Рік тому

      In Norway sadly the bottles often laying around and no one cares. The deposid seems to low for the norwegian income.

    • @idasaks
      @idasaks Рік тому +1

      @@Yo_Hahn I don't experience that too often myself. Usually it is after Fridays and Saturdays when people have been drinking. In my experience there are people who go around and collect them afterwards 😊 Of course there will always be some people who won't bother, but at least thats not the case for most people 😄

    • @A-Wa
      @A-Wa Рік тому +1

      @@Yo_Hahn how high is the deposit? It’s 25ct in Germany for a PET bottle. Glas is cheaper

    • @peropero9564
      @peropero9564 Рік тому

      But even if you do that, the president of Coca-Cola said that Japan has exceeded 50 per cent material use for plastic bottle recycling, right?

  • @MrWage
    @MrWage Рік тому +72

    Great point on industry being a huge source of plastic. I've worked at a gas station in the US, the amount of plastic waste we generated every week before products were even stocked on the sales floor was astounding.

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- Рік тому +15

      So true, used to work at a department store where environmentally friendly paper packaged products on the shelf came wrapped in plastic for the store to remove

    • @_w_w_
      @_w_w_ Рік тому +11

      US is only "green" as a political talking point. I travel a lot to Asia for work. People think Japan has a plastic issue, but they fail to realize the details this video highlights. Japanese bags are sized to fit the purpose and made very very thin. The US may have less individual bags in a package product but the material is super thick. Us Americans are just silly - we complain about Starbucks straw but we failed to pay attention to the extra plastic used to make the sippy cup lid as replacement for straws...

    • @samsawesomeminecraft
      @samsawesomeminecraft Рік тому +1

      @@_w_w_ I think cups are awful for drinks like coffee and tea because they spill everywhere if you try to carry them more than half a mile due to shaking, squeezing, and related accidents. Bottles with screw-on lids (or maybe paper cups with tight-fitting paper lids??) are what we need. I have eaten soup out of 100% paper bowls with lids and it was fine, I don't see why we have to keep using plastic for these lids.

    • @BC33714
      @BC33714 Рік тому +1

      @@_w_w_ Just because it's much worse in the states does NOT mean Japan doesn't have an issue. I hear this "what about America" argument CONSTANTLY come up to justify issues in other countries. Just because x issue is worse in America does NOT justify other countries' problems. America is not some sort of "standard" to measure other countries' performances. That is such a low bar. I don't why it is difficult for people to wrap their heads around this.

    • @_w_w_
      @_w_w_ Рік тому +1

      @@BC33714 No one is saying Japan is perfect. When it comes to waste, the US is the worst offender. I work in an industry that allows me to compare start to end processes, and the American way generates way more waste and we recycle much less.

  • @mnap1595
    @mnap1595 Рік тому +48

    This was something I couldn't help but think about when watching your past videos. Sadly, even recyclable plastic is a problem, since there is a limit to the number of times plastic can be recycled before it ends up in a "last use" type product (e.g., carpeting, decking material, etc.), or just burned.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Рік тому +2

      I think the best "last use" would be insulation because that is helpful to the environment as well as using the plastic. The whold "it's flammable" thing is BS since almost every other component of the house is flammable as well.

    • @samsawesomeminecraft
      @samsawesomeminecraft Рік тому +2

      @@randomvideosn0where good idea, but there's a flaw in your reasoning: standard housing INSULATION is not flamable, as it's usually made of glass, rocks, or styrofoam (styrofoam doesn't burn well because it blocks the flow of combustion-related gasses). Housing insulation made of plastic would need to be made with closed cells filled with nonflammable gas in order to prevent fires, and the structure of plastic filled with bubbles isn't very effective as insulation.

    • @randomvideosn0where
      @randomvideosn0where Рік тому

      @@samsawesomeminecraft The wood structure, wood floor, wood walls, wood sheathing, etc all flammable so as long as the insulation isn't any more likely to catch fire who cares.

    • @peropero9564
      @peropero9564 Рік тому

      the president of Coca-Cola said that Japan has exceeded 50 per cent material use for plastic bottle recycling, right?

    • @strayiggytv
      @strayiggytv Рік тому +2

      @@randomvideosn0where the insulation is more likely to catch fire because electrical fires often start in the walls. Also plastic produces horrific chemical smoke when it burns. Even if everything in the house is "equally flammable" if the insulation is able to produce particularly toxic smoke then it's not quite equal is it? There are copious videos out there explaining why you can't just use plastic as insulation.

  • @__aceofspades
    @__aceofspades Рік тому +76

    Another great video, Greg. The thoroughness and cited sources make it come off as well researched. I'm of the same opinion as you, where plastic is a VERY nuanced discussion. I try to do my best with not creating waste, but there are times when I just throw a plastic container in the trash because the amount of hot water and soap I would need to clean it seems worse than the plastic itself. People always say glass is better, but like your video mentions, it costs more energy to make, transport and clean, than a feather light plastic bottle. Similar story with cotton bags/totes vs plastic, you'd need to use your cotton bag several thousand times for it cause less environmental harm than plastic bags.
    Its an extremely complicated situation. And while plastic is 'bad', its also a super material, cheap, light, waterproof, can be hard or soft, durable or delicate. My opinion is that plastic isnt truly the issue, but energy is. With enough energy alternative options like glass and aluminum make more sense, and plastics can easily be removed from the environment and properly processed. But obviously getting an abundance of energy would solve a ton of problems, and getting there through renewables isnt an easy feat.
    Unfortunately I dont think this video will do well on UA-cam. It starts with the misconceptions of Japans plastic use, but deviates into recycling and plastic as a whole. Its a 10/10 video about plastic and recycling, but I fear that the subject isn't a popular one, unless you're a channel like Kurzgesagt. But even if it doesnt do well, I hope you're able to be happy that you made a high quality educational video.

  • @user-wu1yj3jb1s
    @user-wu1yj3jb1s Рік тому +22

    Glad to see a video that accurately shows Japan's recycling system.
    Plastics are derived from crude oil, so they help in combustion.
    This way, less fuel is used for incineration.

    • @BastardOfTheNorth
      @BastardOfTheNorth Рік тому

      We should recycle them back into fuel,given the current situation

  • @findtherightbeat
    @findtherightbeat Рік тому +61

    Thanks for covering this topic, I've been wondering how Japan manages its plastic use since I come from the Philippines and pretty much think we have to learn how to manage the use of plastic.

    • @avariceseven9443
      @avariceseven9443 Рік тому +5

      Philippines is not as bad as Japan when it comes to our plastics. Our reason for using lots of plastic isn't for the freshness and whatnot but because they are the more economical option. Our candies and other foods comes with too much plastic because they are portioned in a way that even poor people can buy them. Used to think those "tinge" or sachet packaging were genius but now I think of them more as a necessity.
      We still use some of the more traditional packaging. Banana leaves and other similar packaging for food and produce. I see produce from the market shipped in biodegradable baskets with reused sacks.
      Locally, shops are using more paper bags, tote bags or they reuse cardboard boxes used to deliver shipments to the super market to pack large purchases. In some pharmacies, they reuse papers that comes with the medicines and make a sort of small paper bags for medicines.
      The problem with us though is that we are not as disciplined as Japanese are. The poorer people that are the target of these sachet and "tinge" packaging are the people who are less or uneducated. They throw these garbage everywhere causing drainage blockage and floods. The poor and less educated could not care what other people think of them if they throw their garbage everywhere, while in Japan it is deeply ingrained in their culture and traditions.
      We have a lot to learn from other countries and the government has to step up if we want anything substantial to come out of it. We don't need just plants to process these garbage, or companies to make recyclable or biodegradable plastics, we also need a shift in our mindset. Up until mid-college I wasn't really that mindful of my trash. I love science and my course was science related and even then I wasn't really into this environmental stuff. We need to bring back environmental consciousness in the classroom once again if we want more people to care.

    • @TakezoTM
      @TakezoTM Рік тому +3

      "PH sea level rising 3 times faster than world average" というニュースを見ましたが、フィリピンは異常気象の矢面に立たされていると思います。

  • @bizm
    @bizm Рік тому +6

    In Brazil they sell thicker 2L PET bottles that can be returned to be washed and refilled many times, nearly as much as glass bottles but less breakable and much lighter to transport. Reusing plastic items as-is is always a better option than recycling them.

  • @noazucar519
    @noazucar519 Рік тому +34

    Japanese people actually sort and clean their plastic though so it's easier to turn into a resource. I've found that Americans in general are bad at recycling, rarely clean their plastic, and most places collect mixed recyclables so a large percentage of it ends up in landfills anyways. (I've seen people in my complex dump in oily pizza boxes, computer chairs, whole lamps, and unrecyclable trash bags filled with bottles into the recycling bin. 😂)

    • @ImRezaF
      @ImRezaF 2 місяці тому

      It's due to Japan rely heavily with incinerators. Incinerators are picky when it come to trash. Throw the wrong trash and it will cause damage. That's why japanese waste sorting is stricter than others.

  • @ime172
    @ime172 Рік тому +6

    One thing to note: cellophane is a plastic. It is NOT a petroleum plastic and cannot be recycled. It seems to be that a lot of the plastic used in supermarkets in JP are cellophane and not a true petroleum plastic...

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +1

      Oh, interesting.

    • @ime172
      @ime172 Рік тому +3

      @@debesys6306 cellulose aka plant fiber, it is treated with sulfide. you could tell because it's crinkly and not stretchy -- it is biodegradable but not recyclable at all. It's a significantly different material than your typical petroleum polymer

  • @boredbeingbored894
    @boredbeingbored894 Рік тому +3

    0:33 I’m loving the city pop reference 😊

  • @etherdog
    @etherdog Рік тому +22

    Greg, you have pulled together a lot of pieces of the plastics lifecycle into a really great story! I've learned the various parts of it over the years, but nowhere as concise and well documented as you have achieved. Thanks! (It was a disconcerting to hear that you are living alone and I hope everybody is, or will be, ok.)

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +8

      I was only alone for a few weeks filming. We're all back together again!

  • @Sagwafu
    @Sagwafu Рік тому +13

    Unexpected Plastic Love!! Bless you, Greg. You always talk about esoteric subjects I'm curious about. Your channel is becoming very similar in flavor to Japanology and I adore it.

  • @Alicia-ag
    @Alicia-ag Рік тому +4

    Very interesting topic as usual, I'm looking forward to the next video. Have a nice rest of the week!! ♥️

  • @iramm
    @iramm Рік тому +9

    Here plastic soda bottles used to be thick plastic, and they were washed and reused multiple times, thanks to our deposit collection system. I still remember the time when they changed to thin bottles, my mom used to complain that it's too hard to pour out of a 1,5l bottle because it's too flimsy now.

  • @chasethevioletsun9996
    @chasethevioletsun9996 Рік тому +1

    One of your absolute best videos yet! Keep up the great work!

  • @steffahn
    @steffahn Рік тому +77

    Last time I was in Japan, reliably declining plastic bags in konbinis (with limited Japanese skills) was a surprisingly challenging task. Glad to hear itʼs easier now ^^

    • @Im-fq1mn
      @Im-fq1mn Рік тому +2

      How much disposable plastic does your country use?
      largest single-use plastic waste generating countries per capita worldwide 2019
      (Waste volume in kilograms per person)
      Singapore 76
      Australia 59
      Oman 56
      Netherlands 55
      Belgium 55
      Israel 55
      Hong Kong 55
      Switzerland 53
      United States 53
      UAE 52
      Chile 51
      South Korea 44
      United Kingdom 44
      Kuwait 40
      New Zealand 39
      Ireland 39
      Finland 38
      Japan 37

    • @youtubeisproCCP
      @youtubeisproCCP Рік тому +1

      @@Im-fq1mn I’m really surprised Australia is up there since i’m from Australia and now live in Japan. Wew lad

    • @Im-fq1mn
      @Im-fq1mn Рік тому +1

      It's cool to have an opinion on Japan's plastic problem.
      But if your country's disposable plastic consumption is higher than Japan's, then worry more about your home country than Japan.

    • @oaktree__
      @oaktree__ Рік тому

      Even in Canada it's sometimes difficult at convenience stores! They're supposed to charge 5 cents per bag (this is provincial legislation in Ontario) but many don't. I sometimes have to refuse more than once. I almost always have a reusable bag with me, the nylon ones that fold up small can fit in your bag or backpack so you don't have to use a plastic bag. Still, almost everyone has tons of old plastic bags under their sink... I tend to use those as garbage bags for household waste so I don't have to buy rolls of bags labelled as garbage bags. When (if) I ever run out, I'm going to try to get the compostable ones.

    • @user-lu5us5zk2x
      @user-lu5us5zk2x Рік тому +1

      @@Im-fq1mn ほんとそれ

  • @user-no2mz9hl4f
    @user-no2mz9hl4f Рік тому

    This treaty you mention gives me hope. I also appreciate how you discussed the topic from different vantage points. This issue isn’t always straightforward nor black and white, and you illustrated that brilliantly.

  • @jayinvanc
    @jayinvanc Рік тому +2

    What a fantastic episode. I've always wondered about this topic and how Japan manages the amount of plastic used daily. I'm glad you expanded to some other countries. Thank you!

  • @bibliocharylodis
    @bibliocharylodis Рік тому +9

    Interesting video!
    In Austria we have a plant that breaks plastic down and turns it back into crude oil from which any type of plastic can be created again - even medical grade plastic. At the moment 100 litres crude oil per houre are produced from 100 kg plastic waste that is not recycable and would have been incinerated. Seeing as a lot of things are finite resources, finding ways of getting the basic resources back after use, seems like a really good idea. :)

  • @Lafrono
    @Lafrono Рік тому +1

    Great video and an incredibly impotant topic. Looking forward to the next video in this series!

  • @derrickheng564
    @derrickheng564 Рік тому +10

    It is important to distinguish between "single use plastics" vs "long term use plastics" in general.
    Some long term use plastics are carbon sink like insulation for wiring, geotextiles for constructions, piping, water diversion, moisture barrier to prevent mould, pvc pipes, filters, thermal insulators are being deployed for essential and environmental reasons.

    • @Im-fq1mn
      @Im-fq1mn Рік тому

      largest single-use plastic waste generating countries per capita worldwide 2019
      Singapore 76
      Australia 59
      Oman 56
      Netherlands 55
      Belgium 55
      Israel 55
      Hong Kong 55
      Switzerland 53
      United States 53
      UAE 52
      Chile 51
      South Korea 44
      United Kingdom 44
      Kuwait 40
      New Zealand 39
      Ireland 39
      Finland 38
      Japan 37

    • @derrickheng564
      @derrickheng564 Рік тому

      In light of the reply, I feel like I need to say smth, in case the post was mis-interpreted:
      (a) The first post does not seek to compare one country with another. Waste is waste and excess waste is pollution.
      (b) Reducing unnecessary and avoidable waste is a good thing for current generation but future as well. We all want to leave something better for our kids, including the environment.
      (c) It re-inforced what Greg said near the end of his video, that is be sensible of the trade off AND this issue is not a binary dichotomy of plastic is bad and no-plastic is good.

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +5

      Yeah, I agree, there's definitely a difference between single-use and long-term use plastics. And even within single-use, it depends. My biggest takeaway from the video is that it's incredibly complex and the amount of knowledge you need to be able to do the "right" thing where you live is high and what the right thing is changes based on the timing of the markets sometimes. There are some general things that are basically always good (like 99% of the time I use my thermos water bottle instead of bottled water). The biggest changes I saw were when countries decided to put some new system or standard in place and people followed along.

    • @derrickheng564
      @derrickheng564 Рік тому

      @@LifeWhereImFrom Yup. agree it is complex and yes there are few simple things we can do to reduce single use plastics waste.
      One best way imho for reducing "single use" plastic or any single use waste for that matter is to measure how many times we put out the garbage for collection every month. Then try improve that metric every month. What get measure generally get done.
      And sarcasm alert - thanks for bringing that thermos up - Now I can't get that image of Greg [with a big grin] hugging all those thermos out from my mind, perhaps for the remaining of today 😵‍💫lol

  • @user-iv8jw1zy4n
    @user-iv8jw1zy4n Рік тому +4

    The cause of this over-packaging is poisoning crime. It wasn't like this in the old days.

  • @suzaynnschick158
    @suzaynnschick158 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for talking about it. This wasn't your most engaging video, but it's important and I'm always interested to hear how things are done in Japan.

  • @TheKnightXavier
    @TheKnightXavier Рік тому

    Really well researched and articulated video Greg, thanks for your time and effort!

  • @tommykay7427
    @tommykay7427 Рік тому +1

    Once again a brilliant documentary. Thanks!

  • @vasilikonstan
    @vasilikonstan Рік тому +1

    I love your videos! You are such a great narrator and the tone and pace of your videos soothes my soul ❤

  • @limelight58able
    @limelight58able Рік тому +1

    I already enjoy your videos, but that "Plastic Love" clip, compelled me to go listen to the song after I watched your video (I absolutely LOVE that song, by the way!)
    Great content, sir! 👍🏿

  • @flinnferret
    @flinnferret Рік тому

    Really interesting, as always! Thank you!

  • @oldguydave7355
    @oldguydave7355 Рік тому +2

    So well done, great video!

  • @dionthorn
    @dionthorn Рік тому

    Excellent documentary thanks for this.

  • @pydepyper
    @pydepyper Рік тому +10

    Greg this was a great and educational video! It made me think about how much plastic we use in the USA, and how even though I don't buy tones of stuff in plastic we throw away so much every week.

  • @vessiecakes
    @vessiecakes Рік тому +8

    In Northern Ireland most hard (PET) plastics can be recycled at home as long as they're fully cleaned out of food waste, but we have in recent years been branching out into soft plastic recycling (bread/food wrappers etc) but most soft plastic recycling facilities are only available at larger supermarkets/waste facilities which aren't often very accessible to residents in the inner cities/who dont have vehicular access 👎 we also have a "bag for life" concept where you pay up to £1 for a durable plastic bag that you should intend to reuse and when it wears out if you bring your old bag to the store they will replace it with a new one if you hand in the old one for the store to recycle

  • @Helioscore1
    @Helioscore1 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for another great video.

  • @bermei5187
    @bermei5187 Рік тому +2

    This is so much more information that what I expected to learn from this video.

  • @rosarioarquero-martin3461
    @rosarioarquero-martin3461 Рік тому +1

    Another great video and we'll researched. Thank you.

  • @dhebert81
    @dhebert81 Рік тому

    Awesome video! I worked for years in certain pacific province's ministry of environment on recycling and hazardous wastes files and it is super neat to see an inside peak at how Tokyo does it. Very similar waste to energy plants here.

  • @ForboJack
    @ForboJack Рік тому +2

    One of the best way to reduce plastic use in bottles is to provide good quality drinking water from the tap. Then people don't need to buy any water from the store.

  • @shanzaasghar2974
    @shanzaasghar2974 Рік тому

    Your way of explanation is Best. Keep up the Good Work Bro!

  • @0dyss3us51
    @0dyss3us51 Рік тому +6

    Thank you for this! The use of plastic shocked me when I first came to Japan. The real problem is when waste ends in nature, or by the CO2 it outlets when manufacturing.
    Luckily Japan in general have a good garbage collection. But I think there is room for improvement, and happy to see you and others put a spotlight on this! In my country he pay more for beverage bottles but get the money back when we recycle it in designated machines, this gives a monetary incentive and it is very effective. Also I rarely use plastic bags when I shop for grocceries but bring my own bag :) I think I would be shocked by the amount of bags I have saved over the years just by that.

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI Рік тому +5

    This video covers a thought I had as well when I was gifted some sweets from Japan. They were wrapped in more plastics than _local sweets_ - there was plastic just EVERYWHERE. To be fair: I didn't consider the plastic thickness. I also didn't consider the return/recycling rate or how the country treats plastic waste.

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +6

      I think they can definitely cut down on the amount used if they were really challenged to. I'd love to see a push from the government to make minimal packaging a good thing and use whatever levers they can to get companies to minimize usage when it's possible.

  • @alaingraham
    @alaingraham Рік тому +3

    In the uk we have a single logo which shows up if recyclable and a statement for each component(Body; can be recycled, Lid; check you local recycling centre, Label; currently cannot be recycled as examples of each of the statements). We also have plastic nets for large fruits like oranges, clear bags for fruit like apples, and smaller packs for premium fruit like cherries and grapes. Some fruits are even sold loose, like apples, bananas, pears and such.

  • @AiEdgar
    @AiEdgar Рік тому +7

    In the UK the plastic is ridiculous I went to Japan and is about the same but Japan has way better recycling and at energy reuse.

  • @jeddulanas9262
    @jeddulanas9262 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for researching this and making an attempt to site your sources. It makes your statements more credible. I know it's basic journalism but most UA-camrs don't do it so tons of lies and misinformation gets spread.

  • @oaktree__
    @oaktree__ Рік тому +4

    The clamshell packaging in Canada may have been heavier, but it's incredibly easy to avoid buying fruit packaged in clamshell plastic at the supermarket. The majority of fruit in a Canadian supermarket or convenience store is not packaged at all, so I don't find that clamshell experiment either terribly fair, or very indicative of anything about either country's plastic waste problems. And trust me, I'm annoyed every second of the day at how bad it is here in Canada! (And actually in Toronto, we have a serious issue with black plastic, a lot of which is marked as recyclable, but which our local recycling facilities *can't* recycle because of the lack of colour contrast between the plastic and the conveyer belt! Infuriating.)

    • @bmedve3427
      @bmedve3427 8 місяців тому

      Seriously, THAT is an issue? The colour of the material to be recycled and the colour of the conveyor belt? Don't get me wrong, I am new to this but that seems kind of crazy... I wonder if the belts' colour is easy enough to change? (I remember seeing a machine with camera sensors to sort out stones from brown lentils, so yeah...I have some idea of the process)

  • @haterzgonnahate8195
    @haterzgonnahate8195 Рік тому +1

    Another Great Video. I love your Videos.

  • @lindholmaren
    @lindholmaren Рік тому +4

    I've been wondering the exact same thing, in my experience in Japan and in other parts of Asia I've been in it felt like everything was individually wrapped, in a plastic package, in a plastic bag etc
    Really good video

  • @fredd3.14
    @fredd3.14 Рік тому +36

    when I went to Japan, I was shocked how much packaging there was for everything and was wondering why that is, or what happens to it. Thanks for the video

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 Рік тому +1

      Yeap, took us 3 days in Japan to start referring to it as Plasticland.

    • @fredd3.14
      @fredd3.14 Рік тому +2

      @Commenter dont get me twisted, I loved japan and hope to go back, one of the greatest trips of my life. I did watch the video, it was just apparent that everything was overpackaged compared to where I am from.

    • @BC33714
      @BC33714 10 місяців тому

      @factualcommenter Look, I get the whole "but such and such country is worse" whataboutism that you guys like to use to justify the plastic usage here. I just still don't see the point in producing all that plastic in the first place? At my local conbinis, they have individually plastic-wrapped single bananas. What is the point of that? Protection? Isn't that the point of the banana's peel?
      Like I get that we "recycle" it more than most other countries, but I can't help but see how much we could cut-back if we decided to stop wrapping the most unnecessary things in plastic. It's a crazy thought, but we wouldn't have such a high need to recycle if we used less in the first place. Just because other countries are worse does NOT mean that we shouldn't be doing better.

  • @magnusE7
    @magnusE7 Рік тому +2

    There was study in 80s between plastic bottles and glass bottles. They looked at transport and results was plastic is better.

  • @kumoitojp
    @kumoitojp Рік тому +2

    When I was a kid in Los Angeles back in the 1970s, there was broken glass from bottles everywhere I went. Always had to be careful when walking barefoot at rivers and beach.

  • @am3aichjam33
    @am3aichjam33 Рік тому

    A great documentary thank you, good luck.

  • @gadamis
    @gadamis Рік тому

    I really appreciate the nuance.

  • @Ereneru
    @Ereneru Рік тому +7

    since we get money by turning in bottles in Norway, it's always a fun way for the kids to pick them up and earn some pocket money ^-^
    It's not unusual that people throw the bottles away on the street, but since they are worth something, theres always someone who pickes them up.
    Just take them to the nearest store, and put them into the machine, and you get a little paper with a bar code that gives you money

  • @latui7350
    @latui7350 Рік тому

    This is such a great video!

  • @teraymarine148
    @teraymarine148 Рік тому

    Excellent episode

  • @MageThief
    @MageThief Рік тому

    Awesome video with an important topic Greg.

  • @Hnricky
    @Hnricky Рік тому +23

    In Regina, SK the city hall banned plastic bags, and I've notice a lot more people are using reusable bags now! Reusable bags are great and sturdy too. Great video Greg!!!

    • @lilypad2
      @lilypad2 Рік тому +2

      What's SK? Can't be South Korea, but I can't think of another country abbreviated to SK

    • @Entertainment-
      @Entertainment- Рік тому +4

      I see so many people using the reusable bags for single-use purposes. They have banned the sale of single use plastic but instead of carrying their bags and reusing them, many just buy a new “reusable” bag when they go shopping and later use it as a rubbish bag, it completely defeats the purpose and is more environmentally harmful than single-use plastic bags were.

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +10

      @@lilypad2 SK is for Saskatchewan, a province in Canada.

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +4

      @@Entertainment- Yeah, sometimes total bans can backfire. I personally like charging for bags. I always take reusable bags whenever I go shopping, but it's good to have a backup option that's not a bulkier reusable bag for that odd time I don't have one on me.

    • @blablup1214
      @blablup1214 Рік тому +3

      @@LifeWhereImFrom Yeah...we already collected 10 "reusable" cotton bags ....regarding CO2, this is the worse option....

  • @vendiracer5538
    @vendiracer5538 Рік тому

    Very well researched!! And just before October, 3Rs month (reduce, reuse, recycle), it's a good timing!!

  • @superslau
    @superslau Рік тому +3

    This is a great video. As a westerner living in Japan, the amount of plastic present on every day produce is concerning but it's a surprise that the sources show that Japan produces less plastic waste per capita than the UK. As for my family we have our milk delivered by a milkman in glass which then get returned and reused, and we simply don't buy drinks in bottles, and stick to tap water. I do seem to have started a small thermos bottle collection :) I'd love to hear what ideas you have for reducing plastic consumption in Japan.

  • @erikamarie2787
    @erikamarie2787 Рік тому +30

    Someone I know who lived in Japan told me a nugget of information about plastic use there. He said that the reason why Japan doesn't limit plastic use is because of limited resources; ecofriendly packaging (paper etc) typically uses up natural resources and land, something Japan can't spare/wants to avoid doing. Generating plastic (and dealing with them) in comparison is apparently a lesser evil. Not sure if this is true, am happy to be corrected!

    • @grantcivyt
      @grantcivyt Рік тому +7

      Paper is easily renewable. There are tree farms made specifically for the purpose.
      I'm not opposed to plastics use. If you trash plastic in a developed country, it's very difficult for it to make its way into the oceans.

    • @dbclass4075
      @dbclass4075 Рік тому +2

      @@grantcivyt Especially when the collection and recycling system of that country is robust.

    • @grantcivyt
      @grantcivyt Рік тому +5

      @@dbclass4075 I'm mainly talking about adequate trash disposal. Plastics recycling isn't very sensible, and it's actually been the cause of a lot of plastics ending up in the ocean. It's another incredible example of people making things worse when trying to do good.
      There hasn't been enough self-reflection about this imo.

    • @kazedcat
      @kazedcat Рік тому

      @@grantcivyt Tree farm in Japan? They probably buy all their Paper from Australia.

    • @grantcivyt
      @grantcivyt Рік тому +2

      @@kazedcat Oh I don't know if Japan has paper farms. I'm saying paper farms are a thing. They're renewable. Better still is paper is recyclable.

  • @pierretaka6085
    @pierretaka6085 Рік тому +56

    Single-use plastic waste per capita (2019)
    1. Singapore 76 kg
    2. Australia 59 kg
    3. Oman 56 kg
    4. Netherlands 55 kg
    5. Belgium 55 kg
    ...
    9. USA 53 kg
    12. South Korea 44 kg
    13. UK 44 kg
    18. Japan 37 kg
    19. France 36 kg
    35. Germany 22 kg
    Plastic Waste Makers Index
    The Minderoo Foundation

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Рік тому +4

      In this case a total usage va per capita would be more relevant.

    • @rjwaters3
      @rjwaters3 Рік тому +1

      @@adorabell4253 Per capita means "per person" though, doing a "total" would put countries like the us so far out in front as to make a visual representation for any other country if the US is included all but worthless.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Рік тому +1

      @@rjwaters3 Yes. Because with plastic waste it isn't the per capita amount that is important but the total amount. In the grand scheme of things, I mean. With the volume of plastic used by populous countries just omitting some plastic packaging, which not having a big effect on per capita numbers, will have a giant effect on the physical amount of plastic out there.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Рік тому +3

      @@adorabell4253 While a total usage figure would be useful in describing the scale of the global single-use plastics catastrophe, it's not useful at all when making comparisons between nations which is obviously the intent here.
      I take your point though. Ultimately it doesn't really matter which nation is the largest waste producer, we're all going to suffer from the negative environmental effects unless a global effort is made to deal with the issue.

    • @pierretaka6085
      @pierretaka6085 Рік тому +1

      "per capita" is "per capita"
      "total" is "total"
      both have meanings

  • @Chuck8541
    @Chuck8541 Рік тому +5

    Haha I literally laughed out loud at the Plastic Love bit. I’ve been on an 80s Japanese pop kick, for a while.
    Don’t you get copyright, or copy struck, or whatever it’s called, if you use that music? Let alone the video?

    • @LifeWhereImFrom
      @LifeWhereImFrom  Рік тому +3

      For copyright, as long as you keep bits under 10 seconds, you're generally safe on UA-cam. As a creator you can upload a video, wait for UA-cam to scan it for any copyright issues, and only publish if no flags pop-up.

  • @Raincoatc
    @Raincoatc Рік тому +2

    We have a similar 'thermal recycling' plant in my county in America. It generates a lot of the energy needs of the people and also saves space in the landfill!

  • @-PORK-CHOP-
    @-PORK-CHOP- Рік тому +1

    Amazing to see how things can change quickly, Australia rated very high on this list, in the last year or two we have banned single use plastics everywhere, we are now ranked 72 on the list from being in the top 5 just a short time ago.

  • @gi169
    @gi169 Рік тому

    Awesome Sir, your videos are very concise... Thank you...

    • @vonkeo3556
      @vonkeo3556 Рік тому

      So why can John Daub do this kind of informative vid? Instead, all he does is gimmicky stream to milking for money, use his kid to miking for money and running a kickstater scam and pocketing most if not all of the money he raised.

    • @gi169
      @gi169 Рік тому

      @@vonkeo3556 why don't you ask John Daub? My guess would be John is trying to make money for his family, but I really could not say. I think John Daub and his family are awesome.

    • @vonkeo3556
      @vonkeo3556 Рік тому

      @@gi169 In other words, his channel is about making money rather than "love" Japan. It can be of any subject matter as long as he can milk money of it?

    • @gi169
      @gi169 Рік тому

      @@vonkeo3556 Hmmm... I wonder why...

  • @Jhud69
    @Jhud69 Рік тому +4

    When I was in Japan the tour guide showed us the trash burning facilities which were close to residential areas sometimes - told us that it’s fine because their filtering is so advanced it doesn’t produce any fumes. Not too sure how true it is but sure interesting

    • @user-fc6dk4sz8e
      @user-fc6dk4sz8e Рік тому +1

      It’s possible, they have filters that collect the co2 so most of the smoke is water vapor. You can say it’s similar to catalytic converters in our cars to reduce emissions.

  • @chloegregory-pendley8636
    @chloegregory-pendley8636 Рік тому +2

    Those exact reverse vending machines are here in Michigan but we don't use them for small bottles, only big plastic 2 liter bottles, cans, and bottles. Interesting to see them across the world!

  • @sashavonkirsch4948
    @sashavonkirsch4948 Рік тому

    As usual amazing 🤩

  • @samsawesomeminecraft
    @samsawesomeminecraft Рік тому +2

    I think a great way of reducing the carbon emissions of thermally recycling plastic (including recycled bio-plastic and dry bio-waste) is to cook the plastic at a lower temperature and in a lack of oxygen, which causes the plastic to release fuel gasses (burned at the powerplant) and leave behind coal and tar in the reaction chamber, which can be buried in retired coal mines or mixed with crude oil and water as an input to advanced oil refining.

  • @StefanBacon
    @StefanBacon Рік тому +1

    I will confess, I clicked for that beautiful current-gen Fuso Canter rear loader packer truck in the thumbnail. I'll leave a like and comment though to say thanks for that b-roll

  • @xHideousFoxx
    @xHideousFoxx Рік тому

    i love that song! had to pause the video and go listen to it.

  • @munubi9845
    @munubi9845 Рік тому +2

    0:27 don't forget the anime "Plastic Memories"

  • @harutostuttgart
    @harutostuttgart 9 днів тому

    Thank you so much for this video. I am Japanese and I am studying environmental engineering in Germany but I am not fully aware of the current situation in Japan. I think these things are really important to know for Japanese as well and I am sure as Japanese most of the Japanese people dont know how plastic is deposed of or treated. I would love to make subtitle for this video in Japanese, so it will be easier to reach japanese, but only if you agree of course :)
    Thank you so much again for very informative video!

  • @cms9902
    @cms9902 Рік тому +1

    Same problem in the UK. The only plastic you can recycle easily is HDPE and LDPE. This has been going on for decades. Milk bottles, and carrier bags are most commonly used by consumer. Often made into Black waste sacks.

  • @SuveerMalhotra
    @SuveerMalhotra Рік тому

    What a well made video. 👍🏻

  • @gina.7141
    @gina.7141 Рік тому

    In our house we recycled plastics we used it like a mini bags, and also bottles as long as we clean it well, it can still be use again. Some department stores we only used tote bags for shopping.
    I'm from the Philippines

  • @Ichigoeki
    @Ichigoeki Рік тому +1

    I don't have any real numbers to back this up, but I think I produce about twice the amount of plastic waste living in Japan than I did back in Finland. Mind you, this is just the regular plastics from food, I use about 5 times more plastic bottles here due to how the water tastes like. Having a larger fridge and having foods be sold in larger bags at once would help, but I'm stuck with a 20 liter mini fridge and foodstuffs that are meant to only cover what is needed to create a single meal.

    • @user-bf9dk4xb1j
      @user-bf9dk4xb1j Рік тому

      You can’t drink tap water in Japan... what’s important is the weight of plastic, not the amount of plastic you use... yes if you’re living in a small apartment in Japan, it would be better to use a mini fridge, that’s why you can’t stock up for a week and stick with buying only small portions of food, which is fine because there’s a lot of marts and convenience stores, but yeah, uses a lot of plastic....

  • @davidduke3417
    @davidduke3417 Рік тому

    I love yo videos mane keep it up

  • @patrickdiaz5954
    @patrickdiaz5954 Рік тому

    I think you should do a colab with paolo from tokyo! both of your contents are very interesting and informative

  • @NanomachineExE
    @NanomachineExE Рік тому +2

    My question is, how much is gained from recycling these bottles (PET) specifically? The reason I ask this is because you feature footage of people using large machines like the tractor and the processing plants that process these bottles...how much fuel is used in processing this recycling? Is the juice worth the squeeze? Or are we spending more than we are getting back in the long term?

  • @davidnicholson6680
    @davidnicholson6680 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad that this excellent video gets into the complexities and often counter-intuitive facts of actually recycling plastics. Too many people treat plastic recycling as an across-the-board good idea, but plastic recycling often makes no environmental sense. As this video discusses, numerous studies have shown that the complexities of sorting, cleaning and reprocessing plastic materials are often more energy-intensive and environmentally damaging than simply burning the plastic and making new plastic. Also, plastic recycling makes no economic sense and only happens if recycling is heavily subsidized by taxes or enforcement. So we wind up subsidizing something that may in fact harm the environment. The only real solution here is for consumers to use less plastic by changing our preferences and behaviors.

  • @elizabethdavis1696
    @elizabethdavis1696 Рік тому +1

    Please do a video on Kyoto train station and all its amenities and stores

  • @taylorgay1641
    @taylorgay1641 Рік тому

    Thank you Greg for making this video. (Btw I'm wanikani level six, your level is really impressive)

  • @hillppari
    @hillppari Рік тому +4

    fun fact about plastic pollution in the sea is that most of it is from fishing industry and plastic fishing nets

    • @raifikarj6698
      @raifikarj6698 Рік тому +1

      By weight it was but by sheer number volume it was from runaway trash from river dumping

  • @a-chan.2908
    @a-chan.2908 Рік тому +3

    Many plastic packing is also caused by unusual humidity I think.☔☔🥵🥵🌨️🌨️
    Another reason could be the few poisoning incidents that caused public unrest decades ago.There are still arrests for lacing needles and such.

  • @bruteforce_programmer4942
    @bruteforce_programmer4942 Рік тому

    I always want to know, is it that bad to thermally recycle (i.e. burn) the used plastic, it looks like mechanical recycling will use a lot of energy as well.

  • @littlebigleonz
    @littlebigleonz Рік тому +1

    Japan is super humid. Snacks are gonna be inedible in a half of day if you don’t close the bag properly. Even breads get molds in a couple of days.

  • @petermaung2623
    @petermaung2623 Рік тому +4

    Excellent Sir! Very informative and educating short video! I thank you very much for that.
    Yes, recycling is a way to go, and keeping the environment, water & air clean are the most basic and common sense stuffs we can do, but most people don’t seem to care much here in America since so many cities and environments are so dirty. I do wish they teach kids here (like in Japanese schools there) more usable knowledge instead of politically motivated biases!!!

    • @Ren-kw8cg
      @Ren-kw8cg Рік тому +1

      I guess that depends greatly where you grew up or live now; when I was a kid, we learned a great deal about recycling and waste management, since it was so important to the local ecosystems. I remember multiple assemblies and science classes dedicated to the different aspects at all levels of education. Wish my experience was more widespread!

  • @averyhazen8466
    @averyhazen8466 10 місяців тому

    In my country (Canada), instead of pouring our resources into better recycling, we just ban inconsistently. Straws and forks? Nope. But individualized wrapped apples in the grocery store? Why not!
    I really liked to see countries like Japan and Norway working hard on actual solutions towards reducing plastic waste.
    Great video!!!

  • @goldenpeninsula
    @goldenpeninsula Рік тому

    Hi Greg, a very insightful video as always 👍🏻
    But a bit on the technical side: in those sections in which you speak in front of the camera it looks like you are lip syncing to your narration because all the room acoustics have been cut out. Maybe a pointed microphone would have been a better choice?

  • @e1buno
    @e1buno Рік тому +2

    In the grand scheme of things, the carbon footprint of plastic really isn't that much; energy is. Burning them doesn't look that bad from such a perspective. It's almost like rather than burning oil for energy directly, we at least use it once for something else useful before ultimately turning it into energy.

  • @CandycaneBeyond
    @CandycaneBeyond 9 місяців тому

    I actually miss the deposit return for glass bottles. It was so convenient to do that at the grocery store in the USA

  • @forestkane_
    @forestkane_ Рік тому

    def worth a sub for this much research ...

  • @NZPCKugelwilli
    @NZPCKugelwilli Рік тому +1

    Great Video. But why I am not seing this on NHK?

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 Рік тому +1

    It is a pity that "Cellophane" is rarely used. It's made out of plant sap, like aloe vera. Perhaps the outer can be PET, but the inner package should be made of Cellophane.

  • @siliinnorway
    @siliinnorway Рік тому +1

    The bottle recycling system we have in Norway is actually something we adopted from Sweden, but over the decades we have gotten better at it than them.