I was a Mormon missionary in the late 80s. We were prohibited from listening to music. I bought a pirated copy of "The World won't Listen" in Buenos Aires anyway. I was very depressed and lonely while a missionary and I would listen to the songs over and over while sitting on my roof in the slums surrounding Buenos Aires. This music kept me sane.
The first time I herd this music was about 83-84! I have been A BIG FAN since then! It’s the best anyone can Hear in this WORLD! AND ALWAYS WILL BE! Almost 50-years old now! AND I STILL LOVE ALL THE SONGS! AND ALWAYS WILL! This music is A gift To this WORLD! There will never be anything like it ever!
Now I'm 19 and it's been only 3 years since i discovered The Smiths and I'm very glad to find this precious treasure 😎Thank you for sharing this documentry with us
I discovered the Smith's in 85 or 86 at a Black Flag concert at a punk/indie club in Chattanooga TN. Someone had spray painted I AM HUMAN AND I NEED TO BE LOVED JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES - THE Smiths. I went out the next day and bought Meat Is Murder thinking it was going to be a hard core punk band. At first I was perplexed but after about 20 seconds into the Headmaster Ritual I realized I had struck musical gold. They immediately became my favorite band!
@@jimjustjim976 very good question. Actually my friends weren't overly impressed w Black Flag and were mostly very receptive to the Smiths. W my immediate friends at school the Smiths, the Cure, REM, early U2 were top shelf fare.
And the other thing is that it seems to be timeless. Elvis could only be 50's Merseybeat could only be mid 60's. Soft Rock/ Prog could only be late 60s-early 70's. Glam could only be early 70's Punk etc could only be late 70-early 80's I can hear all of those periods in The Smiths.
I think that's true which is odd in some ways. The songs are very specific to Lancashire (not just Manchester) in the 80s but, as in many arts (to be a bit artsy-farty) the universal is in the particular. I know when I first heard the Smiths I was delighted to hear so many familiar idioms ("you go about things the wrong way", "the devil will find work for idle hands" etc.etc.). Here we are 40 odd years later and they sound as fresh as ever, as you say, and a new generation appreciates them. They're a kind of other-end-of the-Mersey echo of the 60s. Northern yobos taking over the culture. Just as the Beatles individually shattered stereotypes so did the Smiths.
I am now 60 years old and have been listening to The Smiths since I was 20. To this day, whenever the chords of This Charming Man start, the hair on both my arms stands up. 🥰😍
Hearing How Soon Is Now changed my whole life. This guy I had never heard of was singing about me and my life. It made me feel I wasn't alone. There were others out there like me. The Smiths, along with Depeche Mode, got me through the darkness of teenage years and young adulthood.
Probably because Mike Joyce should have been fired a few times, he simply just wasn’t a good enough drummer, and Andy Rourke sadly battled with heroin addition, and was fired for a short term and then rehired, he’s a very good bassist. Let’s be honest though, Morrissey and Marr formed the smiths and why wouldn’t this documentary talk mostly about them.
@@daverawcliffe3212 well, The Smiths didn't need outstanding drumming, but I think drumming on The Queen is Dead was about right. Listen to the self-titled song, or the demos of Bigmouth, I Know It's Over, Never Had No One Ever, at least in my opinion he did great there
I discovered the smiths in 88 ... kroq radio playing Morrissey's suedehead...i was 14 ... 30 years later at 44 I listen with the same delight of adolescent angst
I discovered my moms cassettes in the mid 90's. The smiths, Morrissey, depeche mode, the cure, oingo boingo, siouxsie and the banshees....ive been hooked since then
51 years old and my kids have finally acknowledged after 20 years of protesting every time I put Meat is Murder or Hatful of Hollow on in the car, that the smiths might actually be pretty good
This documentary has reminded me that everything becomes so dramatic & iconic in retrospect. At the time, they were just writing songs, one at a time. They were writing what came into their minds in the moment. They were taking photos at places they grew up. It wasn’t so complicated. But I liked the part where the graphic designer talked about Morrissey’s specific instructions of the sleeve art. I saw Johnny Marr play at a small club in Omaha, Nebraska in 2013. Afterwards, a handful of people were in a small line to get autographs. It was on a narrow sidewalk between the venue and his tour bus. To walk by, I was inches from him. As I passed, I said, “Thank you very much. I loved it.” He said, “Thank you.”
Clarissa Garcia ....it was awesome ...it was at the Brixton Academy,South London. My brother lived in a squat near the venue , I often went to go visit him there. It was actually a benefit gig for ‘Artists Against Apartheid’ i remember I bought a yellow baseball cap with AAA on the front of it. You can see the concert on you tube....it’s filmed in black and white and not the best quality but it’s there...just type in something like ‘The Smiths Brixton Academy’. So glad I got to see them at least once....
Aotearoa how cool!!! it must have been an amazing experience (,: I wasn’t even born yet at the time, but it’s very nice to hear other’s memories! they were so awesome....
Marr is a genius, ever tried to play a smiths song on guitar almost impossible for a casual guitarist his riffs are like mathematical equations, total legend.
Well that is why he's not "a casual guitarist" as you put it but a rather skilled one. Yet the riffs aren't really rocket science but they take lot of effort and patience, then think he came up with those alone at the ages between 18-23, the guy had an incredible sense of vision and melody at young age.
duh..right?? Basically who or what band can even remotely come close to the diversity , the musical, and extreme uniqueness in the lyrics..Traits like compassion with passion expressed in every single song with poetry and such beauty bringing brightness and hope to us every time we listen..
I was perfect age for The Smiths. Born in 1970. I liked a couple of their songs but had friends that were obsessed. Have to admit at this point in my life that I just wasn't ready for them (unfortunately). I listen to them now as they were meant to be enjoyed and have to be satisfied that their music is timeless. Wish I was wiser as a young teen....(don't we all).
Anyone who says you don’t get value for money from your TV licence needs to watch this. It’s as good 30 mins of TV you’re ever likely to see and only the BBC could do something as brilliant as this. Well done Tim Samuels. CTID.
Honestly, don't bother Rossana, you'll be shocked and disappointed, maybe even sickened. I won't explain why, that would be 'racist' . I will say that i am very surprised that the Salford Lads Club isn't a mosque by now.
@@mr.shankly I do hear you... I've seen the Britain First vids on youtube... yet none have faltered my desire to visit... ...here in L.A. we suffer the same divide...
@@smilingontimeI just went for the first time because I love the history of England and London and the north, I live in southern Cal near LA and I’ll say it ! There are too many migrants now like LA that have destroyed London
I have wanted to visit England since I was a teen. The music, literature, comedy, history, etc. Made a pround impact on me and shaped the way I think and the kind of adult I became, for the better. Now I am 60, and I doubt I will ever go unless I win a lottery. But I do understand it has changed. I am from New Orleans, and people worldwide have this romantic image of the City, but all I can say is, it's not the same place I grew up in. So sadly, I understand about England. More is the pity. But I have my memories and feelings from childhood that shaped my life. Thank you England, for freeing my soul when I was 14 and heard Never Mind The Bollocks for the first time. Life changing!! Much love from New Orleans!!
I was in my parents' basement in late 1983 when I heard This Charming Man on a radio show called "Rock over London." It exploded my brain and I have not recovered as of this date...
Every song and it's lyrics were identified with anyone in the 80's (and beyond) could relate to this band. I certainly did. I was depressed, lonely and when I first was introduced to this band by a friend I just thought inside my head, YES! The song he played for me was 'I Know it's Over' and from then I was hooked!
The first song I ever heard from the smiths was in 1991, “this night has opened my eyes”... I was 5 years old.. 2018 and still recall hearing it for the first time ... amazing band #1 .. cheers ..
I grew up in Salford. I was a bit young at the time but my bro loved the smiths. And it's all I heard. As I got older. I moved to the states for a few yrs.one day I was in a record shop feeling a bit home sick. I saw a smiths album which I bought. it reminded me of home. That was 17 yrs ago. I'm a massive fan now
It is hard to hear these songs and not be transported back to the place and time of their creation. It's a wonderful mental trip that always leaves me woefully nostalgic.
The Smiths have always been my favorite band but I hadn't listened to them in long while. I'm so glad I found this documentary. I was fortunate enough to see them in concert many times and this film really took me back.
The Smith Fest would be my idea of hell if you had any empathy with Morriseys lyrics you would hate it too. Morrissey is a deep thinker and speaks for the socially awkward who at the party are sat in the corner if they even make it as generally we turn on our heels as we can't face it. People generally don't understand loneliness in a full room but I do and so does Morrisey.
For a group that only lasted 4 years there influence will last many lifetimes! The fact that Morrissey & Marr are still making music is food for my soul! Love.
Well this is a little nugget I've just come across. What a wonderful half hour of total Smiths Homage. I can't put my hand on it but The Smiths for me are one of, If not THE best band to come out of the 80's, Which is my late teens, Early twenties time. This band means so much to me now as it did back then, I will never see them reform but their music is so poignant it really hit a nerve and still does every time i listen to their stuff. They spoke to a generation that had no hope, Saw the heart ripped out of their neighbourhood by the uncaring Tories, Saw their parents in total despair as their jobs disappeared and saw the South get richer while they were left behind. A truly great band who spoke how people felt and even now in my 50's, listening to them I still well up and shed tears for a lost time and a lost generation of hope which was the 80's
I'm not sure the lone American fan included here wasn't a backhanded swipe at the rest of us, but the Jam got me through my miserable Missouri high school days, and then the Smiths helped me reach adulthood on more or less my own terms, and for that, I'm forever indebted...
Saw Johnny Marr Saturday night in Nashville at a small club. I was wonderful. They finished playing and said they loved Nashville and thanked everyone for coming out. There was such an intimate feel to the whole show. Good night
My favourite band in the 80s. As a twenty-something Canadian youth, I'd listen to CBC's Brave New Waves and CFNY's radio shows to catch the best of what the era had to offer. These radio stations were my education on what was good about the music of that era, and The Smiths my lessons on the everyday. Thanks for posting this doc.
The composer should have mentioned the sophisticated bass lines of Andy Rourke, especially in Barbarism. Marr and Rourke made their unique instrumental sound.
For Me The Smiths is Johnny Marr's guitar sound!!! That's what got me into them!!!! But with age I got Morrissey's lyrics!!! A quintessential English band!!!
Glad I was the right age. Punk and Two Tone had faded out, music was threatening to go back to commercial "Bubble gum for the Ears." Then they arrived, just as the Specials first arrived on Top of the Pops, the Smiths appeared and you knew something was happening. Just loved them. When it ended I forgot about music until the Manchester Scene started. There would have been no Manchester Scene without the Smiths.
An Ambient Cyborg haha yeah the ultimate Northern talking head... must have been busy pontificating about that Sex Pistols Manchester gig on a different channel instead
thanks for your comment -which I find very Interesting . this Wane Hemingway is an interesting character. He has a write up on Wikipedia. I didn't know he was famous /well known in the UK, but I guess that explains his appearance on the show, even though I watched this before. I just thought he had a stall and that was it, he just continued owning some type of basic store or something... Not for these people who just happened to be at the right place at the right time. I'm in Canada. Whats even more interesting is his father who is Native Canadian and his time in the UK as a wrestler....and that's how his mother met this bio father.
Couldn't agree more! After watching "The Smiths -- These Things Take Time (documentary)" it sickening what they did to Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke. And Morrissey flees to the US to get out of paying...love The Smiths music, don't like that story at all
The lady in purple needs to get a clue. There are many conservative people who absolutely love The Smiths. Their music spoke to many people on many different levels. In fact, he could offend anyone - including labor party principles - and yet we love it! I can feel his emotion without embracing his politics. The ability to understand that, well, I guess she just hasn't earned it yet.
What a great documentary, thank you Mark, I'm a long time Smiths fan, certainly had an impact on my teenage years in the mis 80's, and in my opinion for the better.
'Asleep' is so bloody sad and bleak, yet painfully beautiful. I'm sure it must have been to some degree autobiographical because it conveys such a terrible sense of the isolation, unhappiness and sheer desperation of someone no longer wanting to exist. So sad to think that there are people out there in this situation. As Charles Laughton says so astutely in the film Night of The Hunter, "It's a hard world for little things". If there's someone out there feeling this bad then just tell someone about it, anyone. In amongst all the people who don't care, you'll find ones who do -- people who WILL help you. Have hope. Still a lot of good people about in this strange old world.
I was a Mormon missionary in the late 80s. We were prohibited from listening to music. I bought a pirated copy of "The World won't Listen" in Buenos Aires anyway. I was very depressed and lonely while a missionary and I would listen to the songs over and over while sitting on my roof in the slums surrounding Buenos Aires. This music kept me sane.
Have to ask an obvious question...did you stray from Mormonism?
@@kgbeezr75 No longer a practicing Mormon.
@@Tchild2 pay lay ale...
My mum is a Mormon. Great great people, I've been to Utah...but JS wrote it himself
Buenos Aires huh, always thought The Smiths were unknown all over my country.
@Return of the grapes. They are the coolest people to talk to tho.
My mother got hooked on the Smith's. She does not speak or understand English. She fell in love with the sound.
Love from Manchester 👍
Best smiths doc ive seen. Short, thoughtful and concise. Good analyzation of the moods and sounds that made the Smiths unique.
The first time I herd this music was about 83-84!
I have been A BIG FAN
since then!
It’s the best anyone can
Hear in this WORLD!
AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
Almost 50-years old now!
AND I STILL LOVE ALL
THE SONGS!
AND ALWAYS WILL!
This music is A gift
To this WORLD!
There will never be anything like it ever!
Now I'm 19 and it's been only 3 years since i discovered The Smiths and I'm very glad to find this precious treasure 😎Thank you for sharing this documentry with us
Sameeeee
I discovered the Smith's in 85 or 86 at a Black Flag concert at a punk/indie club in Chattanooga TN. Someone had spray painted I AM HUMAN AND I NEED TO BE LOVED JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES - THE Smiths. I went out the next day and bought Meat Is Murder thinking it was going to be a hard core punk band. At first I was perplexed but after about 20 seconds into the Headmaster Ritual I realized I had struck musical gold. They immediately became my favorite band!
Beautiful story we must have similar tastw
Did u have to keep that quiet from your hardcore mates?
@@jimjustjim976 very good question. Actually my friends weren't overly impressed w Black Flag and were mostly very receptive to the Smiths. W my immediate friends at school the Smiths, the Cure, REM, early U2 were top
shelf fare.
Oh yah. Talking Heads of course!
@@bhdctnHi, I am 60 now. You and I would have been friends back then.
Their music hasn't aged at all.
It's still as fresh as in the 1st day.
And the other thing is that it seems to be timeless.
Elvis could only be 50's
Merseybeat could only be mid 60's.
Soft Rock/ Prog could only be late 60s-early 70's.
Glam could only be early 70's
Punk etc could only be late 70-early 80's
I can hear all of those periods in The Smiths.
@@chrisst8922I hear Britpop in the 90s & and I hear Emo in 2000s
I think that's true which is odd in some ways. The songs are very specific to Lancashire (not just Manchester) in the 80s but, as in many arts (to be a bit artsy-farty) the universal is in the particular. I know when I first heard the Smiths I was delighted to hear so many familiar idioms ("you go about things the wrong way", "the devil will find work for idle hands" etc.etc.). Here we are 40 odd years later and they sound as fresh as ever, as you say, and a new generation appreciates them. They're a kind of other-end-of the-Mersey echo of the 60s. Northern yobos taking over the culture. Just as the Beatles individually shattered stereotypes so did the Smiths.
It still hasn't aged. Like fine wine. Not your typical 80s band. They were beyond that.
The Smith's...were my comforting and helped me through some dark times...thank God for this great band!!!
Same here.
@chrishorn855
Totally agree.
The chorus of "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" is utterly glorious.
Andy Rourke's bass line totally makes it
I am now 60 years old and have been listening to The Smiths since I was 20. To this day, whenever the chords of This Charming Man start, the hair on both my arms stands up. 🥰😍
Hearing How Soon Is Now changed my whole life. This guy I had never heard of was singing about me and my life. It made me feel I wasn't alone. There were others out there like me. The Smiths, along with Depeche Mode, got me through the darkness of teenage years and young adulthood.
I wish this went on forever.
My Dad passing down The Smiths was probably the best thing he ever did
The Smiths had a drummer and a bassist, sadly you’d never know it by this episode.
Probably the most underrated Bassist of all time...
Probably because Mike Joyce should have been fired a few times, he simply just wasn’t a good enough drummer, and Andy Rourke sadly battled with heroin addition, and was fired for a short term and then rehired, he’s a very good bassist. Let’s be honest though, Morrissey and Marr formed the smiths and why wouldn’t this documentary talk mostly about them.
@@daverawcliffe3212 well, The Smiths didn't need outstanding drumming, but I think drumming on The Queen is Dead was about right. Listen to the self-titled song, or the demos of Bigmouth, I Know It's Over, Never Had No One Ever, at least in my opinion he did great there
@@daverawcliffe3212 moron
Yes but Morrissey and Marr were the geniuses.
I discovered the smiths in 88 ... kroq radio playing Morrissey's suedehead...i was 14
... 30 years later at 44 I listen with the same delight of adolescent angst
I discovered my moms cassettes in the mid 90's. The smiths, Morrissey, depeche mode, the cure, oingo boingo, siouxsie and the banshees....ive been hooked since then
I love the Smiths and I was lucky enough to visit the Salford Lads Club when I had a chance to travel to Manchester in 2016.
BTW, I am from Hong Kong.
Watching young Johnny play makes me giddy inside. What a beauty he is, inside and out!!❤
I'm a 48 year old American and my love affair with The Smiths has rubbed off on my daughters. 😊
lucky girls.
Nom nom nom........
I'm a 46 year old New Zealander and my daughter's love affair with the Smiths has rubbed off on me!!
51 years old and my kids have finally acknowledged after 20 years of protesting every time I put Meat is Murder or Hatful of Hollow on in the car, that the smiths might actually be pretty good
61 y/o. My 3 kids grew up hearing them. No choice.
This documentary has reminded me that everything becomes so dramatic & iconic in retrospect. At the time, they were just writing songs, one at a time. They were writing what came into their minds in the moment. They were taking photos at places they grew up. It wasn’t so complicated. But I liked the part where the graphic designer talked about Morrissey’s specific instructions of the sleeve art. I saw Johnny Marr play at a small club in Omaha, Nebraska in 2013. Afterwards, a handful of people were in a small line to get autographs. It was on a narrow sidewalk between the venue and his tour bus. To walk by, I was inches from him. As I passed, I said, “Thank you very much. I loved it.” He said, “Thank you.”
I had the pleasure of being at the last Smiths gig and the Brixton academy ♥️
how was it?
Clarissa Garcia ....it was awesome ...it was at the Brixton Academy,South London. My brother lived in a squat near the venue , I often went to go visit him there. It was actually a benefit gig for ‘Artists Against Apartheid’ i remember I bought a yellow baseball cap with AAA on the front of it. You can see the concert on you tube....it’s filmed in black and white and not the best quality but it’s there...just type in something like ‘The Smiths Brixton Academy’. So glad I got to see them at least once....
Aotearoa how cool!!! it must have been an amazing experience (,: I wasn’t even born yet at the time, but it’s very nice to hear other’s memories! they were so awesome....
Thank you for sharing your wonderful memory!!@@taurangasurf
Marr is a genius, ever tried to play a smiths song on guitar almost impossible for a casual guitarist his riffs are like mathematical equations, total legend.
Well that is why he's not "a casual guitarist" as you put it but a rather skilled one.
Yet the riffs aren't really rocket science but they take lot of effort and patience, then think he came up with those alone at the ages between 18-23, the guy had an incredible sense of vision and melody at young age.
They are easy songs to play for the most part. Nearly impossible to perfect.
Agreed.
@@ChainNonSmoker I think he's sayings it's hard for him to play them as a 'casual guitarist' you twonk
Yeah they are definitely not your simple 3 or 4 chord pop tunes of today.
Excellent to watch. For me, i've never heard any other band who could equal them. I've had a 30 year love affair with them.
manu ochenta I think he meant equal in skill, and musical/lyrical diversity.
James are up there with The Smiths. Mozza covered What's the World!
duh..right?? Basically who or what band can even remotely come close to the diversity , the musical, and extreme uniqueness in the lyrics..Traits like compassion with passion expressed in every single song with poetry and such beauty bringing brightness and hope to us every time we listen..
penny brown The cure & the smiths both hold a place in my heart
29 years here
I was perfect age for The Smiths. Born in 1970. I liked a couple of their songs but had friends that were obsessed. Have to admit at this point in my life that I just wasn't ready for them (unfortunately). I listen to them now as they were meant to be enjoyed and have to be satisfied that their music is timeless. Wish I was wiser as a young teen....(don't we all).
Yes, Yes we do.
I was only a child in the 80s but looking back the smiths have got to be the best band of that decade
Oh yeah, absolutely! Easily.
U2 are up there also
@@Pazuzu82
Watch South Park S11 E9 More Crap. It says it all.
Anyone who says you don’t get value for money from your TV licence needs to watch this. It’s as good 30 mins of TV you’re ever likely to see and only the BBC could do something as brilliant as this. Well done Tim Samuels. CTID.
Im just 15 but I have been listening to this group for 4 years by now)
Cheers
у тебя есть вк друк
I will visit England one day. Dreams do come true.
Honestly, don't bother Rossana, you'll be shocked and disappointed, maybe even sickened. I won't explain why, that would be 'racist' . I will say that i am very surprised that the Salford Lads Club isn't a mosque by now.
@@mr.shankly I do hear you... I've seen the Britain First vids on youtube... yet none have faltered my desire to visit...
...here in L.A. we suffer the same divide...
@@smilingontimeI just went for the first time because I love the history of England and London and the north, I live in southern Cal near LA and I’ll say it ! There are too many migrants now like LA that have destroyed London
I have wanted to visit England since I was a teen. The music, literature, comedy, history, etc. Made a pround impact on me and shaped the way I think and the kind of adult I became, for the better. Now I am 60, and I doubt I will ever go unless I win a lottery. But I do understand it has changed. I am from New Orleans, and people worldwide have this romantic image of the City, but all I can say is, it's not the same place I grew up in. So sadly, I understand about England. More is the pity. But I have my memories and feelings from childhood that shaped my life. Thank you England, for freeing my soul when I was 14 and heard Never Mind The Bollocks for the first time. Life changing!! Much love from New Orleans!!
Some hear lyrics, other hear riffs, I hear the bass line.
I was in my parents' basement in late 1983 when I heard This Charming Man on a radio show called "Rock over London." It exploded my brain and I have not recovered as of this date...
This band changed my roads in life thankfully
Every song and it's lyrics were identified with anyone in the 80's (and beyond) could relate to this band. I certainly did. I was depressed, lonely and when I first was introduced to this band by a friend I just thought inside my head, YES! The song he played for me was 'I Know it's Over' and from then I was hooked!
I've only been to a Morrissey concert. I've never seen The Smiths play. I love them so much.
great poet moz and marr amazing guitarist
The greatest band of all time,not even a conversation to be had.
The first song I ever heard from the smiths was in 1991, “this night has opened my eyes”... I was 5 years old.. 2018 and still recall hearing it for the first time ... amazing band #1 .. cheers ..
I grew up in Salford. I was a bit young at the time but my bro loved the smiths. And it's all I heard. As I got older. I moved to the states for a few yrs.one day I was in a record shop feeling a bit home sick. I saw a smiths album which I bought. it reminded me of home. That was 17 yrs ago. I'm a massive fan now
Cheers!
beautiful story thanks for sharing
Cool story
m d it was massive
It is hard to hear these songs and not be transported back to the place and time of their creation. It's a wonderful mental trip that always leaves me woefully nostalgic.
the cellulon triptometer Oh, you’re so right. [Teary eyed wistful episode ensues...]
Excellent documentary... well done Mark.
Best Smiths doc I have ever seen. Just wish it were longer!
The Smiths have always been my favorite band but I hadn't listened to them in long while. I'm so glad I found this documentary. I was fortunate enough to see them in concert many times and this film really took me back.
I grew up with this music I love the smiths I love Manchester
+SC info and Dublin, Dundee & humberside
SC info. What do you mean? London seems great to me.
Luis Lizard I'm Korean American guy and have been listening to the smiths since 1985. The Smiths has made me long to visit England.
The Smith Fest would be my idea of hell if you had any empathy with Morriseys lyrics you would hate it too. Morrissey is a deep thinker and speaks for the socially awkward who at the party are sat in the corner if they even make it as generally we turn on our heels as we can't face it. People generally don't understand loneliness in a full room but I do and so does Morrisey.
Me too. But I love São Paulo.
One of the most underrated bands ever😔
The Smiths were the second band I ever heard where I thought to myself: finally a songwriter who actually *reads* books.
Who were the first?? Just curious
@@mariahmeida7541 me too ??
Weller/The Jam?
Thank you so much for sharing and helping to keep The Smiths music alive.
Andy Rourke is an amazing bass guitarist. ✊
For a group that only lasted 4 years there influence will last many lifetimes! The fact that Morrissey & Marr are still making music is food for my soul! Love.
Well this is a little nugget I've just come across. What a wonderful half hour of total Smiths Homage. I can't put my hand on it but The Smiths for me are one of, If not THE best band to come out of the 80's, Which is my late teens, Early twenties time. This band means so much to me now as it did back then, I will never see them reform but their music is so poignant it really hit a nerve and still does every time i listen to their stuff. They spoke to a generation that had no hope, Saw the heart ripped out of their neighbourhood by the uncaring Tories, Saw their parents in total despair as their jobs disappeared and saw the South get richer while they were left behind.
A truly great band who spoke how people felt and even now in my 50's, listening to them I still well up and shed tears for a lost time and a lost generation of hope which was the 80's
Haven't you heard of 'Brotherhood Of Man'
I'm not sure the lone American fan included here wasn't a backhanded swipe at the rest of us, but the Jam got me through my miserable Missouri high school days, and then the Smiths helped me reach adulthood on more or less my own terms, and for that, I'm forever indebted...
US Smiths fans represent!
Hear hear!
I'm English your welcome
@@mojojojojuniper6122 were you in the smiths? If not why are you saying your welcome
Yes, these groups and their thought-provoking music helped raise me. I feel so fortunate.
Nice tribute. I glad I got to see them three times, twice in 83 including once at The Hacienda, and once in 84 in London.
I just watched this at a non-drunken hour and heaven knows I thoroughly enjoyed it. #quite
That was brilliant, some fresh insights, thank you. Your personal connection make it even better. Brilliant. Cheers
Saw Johnny Marr Saturday night in Nashville at a small club. I was wonderful. They finished playing and said they loved Nashville and thanked everyone for coming out. There was such an intimate feel to the whole show. Good night
My favourite band in the 80s. As a twenty-something Canadian youth, I'd listen to CBC's Brave New Waves and CFNY's radio shows to catch the best of what the era had to offer. These radio stations were my education on what was good about the music of that era, and The Smiths my lessons on the everyday. Thanks for posting this doc.
Daniel Day cfny. The spirit of the radio.
There will never be another band like them.
fozzerbluenose Beginning to look that way, sadly
Well captured, thank you! These guys were important in getting me through those insecure teenage years and never stopped loving their music since.
The composer should have mentioned the sophisticated bass lines of Andy Rourke, especially in Barbarism. Marr and Rourke made their unique instrumental sound.
Apparently Marr wrote those basslines
They replicated their old funky days when they played funk covers on that song. Marr did not write them.
Johnny Marr wrote them you silly fucker.
@@freedan79 Marr wrote the melodies; Rourke came up with the bass lines, many times during jam sessions. This is well known.
@@EndoftheTownProductions Am learning Bass and Smith songs are on my must learn bucket list.
For Me The Smiths is Johnny Marr's guitar sound!!! That's what got me into them!!!! But with age I got Morrissey's lyrics!!! A quintessential English band!!!
Not. All four Smiths come from Irish families and Johnny Marr has said that the tunes he composed were influenced by his Irish background.
@@freakybeaky1 English
Glad I was the right age.
Punk and Two Tone had faded out, music was threatening to go back to commercial "Bubble gum for the Ears."
Then they arrived, just as the Specials first arrived on Top of the Pops, the Smiths appeared and you knew something was happening.
Just loved them. When it ended I forgot about music until the Manchester Scene started. There would have been no Manchester Scene without the Smiths.
Oh weve got a regular mr music journalist over here, aaaarghh why dont you just shadap
I am a 21 year old American and I love love love Morrissey
Great docu, thanks for uploading! No Paul Morley though, must be some kind of miracle...
An Ambient Cyborg haha yeah the ultimate Northern talking head... must have been busy pontificating about that Sex Pistols Manchester gig on a different channel instead
Lol whenever they cant get johnny for an interview they get Noel to talk about him. Noel is Johnnys interview proxy
Noel was in the Anti - Smiths Oh hey Sis, Thick ignorant and laddish rock star crap!!!!!
@DANNY DIRE The Gal-UGH-ers eyebrows give it all away.....near neanderthal un-
evolved twats!
Wait until you hear about Morrissey's politics
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Love Noel’s comment at the end-- bloody truth
Noel's a real thick un!!!
LEGENDS, what a band there like a vintage claret just gets better every time I here CHARMING MAN!!! Take a bow never ever weather
This is an excellent portrait of a completely enigmatic and brilliant band. Well done.
Wonderful. Thank you.
Such a great band !!
If there is a Heaven, I’ll know for sure when I arrive and the Smiths are playing a reunion concert just for me.
Proud to say I've passed The smiths onto my kids, they love them
I saw them in Dundee 1983 I was 15 ,I moved to London 89 and worked for Wayne Hemingway !
thanks for your comment -which I find very Interesting
. this Wane Hemingway is an interesting character. He has a write up on Wikipedia. I didn't know he was famous /well known in the UK, but I guess that explains his appearance on the show, even though I watched this before.
I just thought he had a stall and that was it, he just continued owning some type of basic store or something... Not for these people who just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
I'm in Canada. Whats even more interesting is his father who is Native Canadian and his time in the UK as a wrestler....and that's how his mother met this bio father.
Zoch Buppet Wayne is that you 😂😂
Wonderful video!! Brilliant title! For "this one is different, because it's us!" 😄👏
The best Smiths' documentary ever!!!
Did the makers of this documentary not know The Smiths had 2 other members. Totally shocking to leave out the other 2.
C'mon the muscle of the band had virtually zero creative input, they were almost hired hands.
Couldn't agree more! After watching "The Smiths -- These Things Take Time (documentary)" it sickening what they did to Mike Joyce and Andy Rourke. And Morrissey flees to the US to get out of paying...love The Smiths music, don't like that story at all
Mark Heywood Mike Joyce, Andy Rourke.
Good point! Joyce and Rourke were very important in the band, no shadow of doubt.
Rick and Bruce?
“The dream is gone but the baby is real.”
I came late to The Smiths in '84. Constant ever since. Love MCR not least coz i was born there....
Noel Gallagher definitely modelled himself on Johnny Marr
The lady in purple needs to get a clue. There are many conservative people who absolutely love The Smiths. Their music spoke to many people on many different levels. In fact, he could offend anyone - including labor party principles - and yet we love it! I can feel his emotion without embracing his politics. The ability to understand that, well, I guess she just hasn't earned it yet.
Quite ironic too because the Labor party absolutely hate the white working class now
Brilliant, short and sweet. Thank you Mark Simon!
you're welcome mate!
Brilliant! Thanks for the upload. I'm in the states, so I had no way of viewing it online otherwise.
The best piece I've seen on The Smiths.
No worries, glad you enjoyed! I'm thinking of posting more Smiths, Roses & Joy Division stuff, so will try to get round to it soon!
and The Fall?
Loved it. Happy days...thanks for uploading
As q mais gosto também , Smiths, Joy division e Stones Roses ❤❤❤
at 4.26 it list my 2 fav groups 1. The Smiths and 2. Big Country. RIP Andy and Stuart
Manchester seemed like a tough town in the 80s, which no doubt shaped the sound of the The Smiths.
Timotheus H. Nakashona it’s a rough town now mate. Nothings changed ,still has some of the poorest areas in the uk
What a great documentary, thank you Mark, I'm a long time Smiths fan, certainly had an impact on my teenage years in the mis 80's, and in my opinion for the better.
Whaaaaaaaaaaat a band was that!!!!!Liké some new move in music,One of few most important groups in History!!!!Best tune:Queen is Dead
Thank you man!
Noel Gallagher's words were great.
Didn't even mention us Mexican kids in Southern California that were OBSESSED with The Smiths!
band of my life
Smiths and Morrissey!! A fantastic world...
Pure genius in the rearified realm of Beatles, Doors, great help in ones life.
'Asleep' is so bloody sad and bleak, yet painfully beautiful. I'm sure it must have been to some degree autobiographical because it conveys such a terrible sense of the isolation, unhappiness and sheer desperation of someone no longer wanting to exist.
So sad to think that there are people out there in this situation.
As Charles Laughton says so astutely in the film Night of The Hunter, "It's a hard world for little things".
If there's someone out there feeling this bad then just tell someone about it, anyone. In amongst all the people who don't care, you'll find ones who do -- people who WILL help you. Have hope.
Still a lot of good people about in this strange old world.
It's just about drinking cocoa in the morning
you werent in the know if you didnt listen to the Smiths in the 80's
I bought 'The Smiths' and 'Kill 'em All' at the same time
I'd bet Morrissey would hate the fan meetings at the end of the video.
He likes one aspect: they're all about him and his music. If it were revolving around any other artist, he'd probably hate it.
Absolutely. Those kids are just what The Smiths never were. They are an example of their hedonistic generation.
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You’re joking aren’t you? He’d bloody love it.
He'd probably hate the meat production footage more.
Bet not. Morrissey loves his fans still..
15:10, yes I was one of them !! Still veggie now. Cheers Mozzer.
'Are you saying that you can't be 'right wing' and like The Smiths?'
Cue 2019
I like em and their lyrics
Morrissey is obviously more right wing than left.
Beautiful...well done!
Goth.. But much more pop.. Or just good music 🎷 good band.
Nostalgic. Makes u recall when u firsts heard their songs. And
How it made u feel...
The Smiths beauty is an exceptional solitary experience
The sun shines out of they're behinds
There is a light ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The Smiths were fantastic 👣👣👣