John Bercow Defects to Labour: Why the Former Speaker Abandoned the Conservatives - TLDR Now
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It was announced in an Observer interview today that former Speaker of the House of Commons and former Conservative MP John Bercow had defected to join Labour. In this video we'll explain what lead to the swap, why Bercow doesn't like the current Conservative government & what this means for the Tories rough week.
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TLDR News' "rough audio" is still better than GB News' broadcast audio.
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Audio sounded fine to me
Ah John Bercow, the original reason why I started following this channel.
ORDAH
Yea honestly same haha
Indeed
Same
Same, and got the OOORDAAAH sweatshirt
Today I learned that there is a "back bencher of the year" award.
and me !
today I got depressed as I found out that there is a BA.....
Who knew?
Lol I thought the same thing
Me too. It's like the super substitute award for football if there was one.
"your'e just taking revenge!"
"revenge for what?"
"nothing we've done nothing wrong of course! Just generic revenge"
?
@@laurentmauduit7143 The fact that they call it "revenge" implies that they have done something to piss him off. They're implicating themselves
@@divine1448Exactly. They are telling on themselves .
What revenge? He's setting himself up for further humiliation.
Can't wait to see it
Excellent
Labour should elect him as leader immediately, he would be far more interesing and inspirational than Tip Toe Starmer who is as exciting as a wet dish cloth
I'm not from the UK but if I were and he were in charge of the Labour party, they'd get my vote in a general election 😂
Bercow is so pro-EU, he'd be perfect for as Labour leader.
Yeah he woul be the perfect candidate
@@DW-dd4iw I dont think saying you are pro eu will win you the PM seat right now
starmer is definitely a wet dish cloth. there again, a wet dish cloth is more useful
Bercow: defects
Media: goes nuts
Bercow: *"OOORRRDDDAAAHHHH!"*
Hehehehhehehhee
We need him to bring ordah
Who gives a crap, might as well join the rest of the clowns 🤡😂😂🍷🍷🏴
When the Speaker is on his feet, the Honourable Gentleman resumes his seat. 😎
I came down here looking for this, and I was not disappointed.
I bet John Bercow's campaign is comprised of him yelling "order"
I'd vote for him.
Wish he was in my constituency
@@Falcrist Aye I'm a Scot. N only vote accordingly. But yes Bercow. Whether tory or not. Is head and shoulders over the rest of them.
Yes:
ORDER … Me a seat in the House of Lords.
@@pippipster6767 That's already been denied to him. N he has said They are welcome to it. N getting one Through Labour🤔. Highly unlikely. Considering its Tory control for a long time to come yet. So close but off by a mile. Bercow could be dead n gone. Before Tory control in England ends. The other nations will break away. N if England's Tories try n stop them. That will just hasten the end of the present imposed English tory rule./control.
Bercow should have called his autobiography “ORDAH”.
I bet he thought about this but than decided to keep it for his next one.
@@steffenschiller3189 that’s deep, labour is gonna start steam rolling the tories now with the blessing of bercow
@@anthony2384 Labour is going to win teh next election now because of Bercow.
The open hostility he received from his former party may have nudged him over.
He was a remainer and didn’t remain neutral and A-Political as is normal with the Speaker. He allowed amendments against certain bills which he should not have done. The Labour speaker Betty Boothroyd was the best one we have ever had, she was a true parliamentarian. Bercow even had an anti Brexit slogan on the rear window of his car. It’s unusual for a rat to join a sinking ship, he has just bought a ticket for the Titanic.
well it didn't help that he was stabbing them in the back at every opportunity?
Well received hostily. Too bad the hostily was mostly passive aggressive~
@@billydonaldson6483 you forgot that was his wife's car my guy, thats a terrible argument. Bercow is by far the best speaker parliament has had, he actually did his job
@@BassBanj0 I agree. His job was to sabotage Brexit for the globalists and rootless transnationals, and he did it well for a few years. Good riddance to that snake and traitor, and glad he joined Labor, as he certainly belongs there.
This is the least surprising news I have heard all year.
It's made my day :)
Yup. You could have predicted this 10 years ago.
I certainly did not see this coming. The man was a Tory for goodness sake. MP for Buckingham
Well defecting *from* the Tories isn't at all surprising, but *to* Labour is much more so. I would have expected the Lib Dems to have been his destination of choice, but maybe that's because I'm used to thinking of Labour with Corbyn at the helm; perhaps Sir Keir Starmer is more to his liking.
@@davidjames4915 In that case, Bercow is one of the few people in the country who like that plain, overcooked chicken breast of a man
There has been talk about him defecting about 10 or more years ago
The question is : Did he leave his party or did his party leave him? I think that he is being true to his own values.
@@duprattcarol Like 3/4 of the Conservative Party, he was never a conservative.
I read defecating insted of defecting.
@@geoffreycharles6330 That little goblin defecates every time he opens his mouth
Exactly, he left the party in ideology at least 10 years ago.
I didn't realise what authority the Speaker had until Bercow left. His navigation of Brexit-related parliamentary discussions may have looked like time-wasting frustration, but as the figure who literally speaks on behalf of parliament he had to ensure *our representatives* (backbenchers, not just ministers) had some input, despite Theresa May's time-wasting efforts to circumvent parliament.
Correct. All hate you in the middle. ^^
His importance is absolutely huge, especially in making sure the Government wasnt running amok or abusing their power, which it seemed like they repeatedly tried to do.
That man had a really, really tough job.
@@jonsmith5058 so hows the whole not running amok gone over this last 15 months?
Appears to me that the government can simply bypass the democratic process at the drop of a hat, if there's "an emergency"
But having said that Gina Miller and the courts also appear to have been able to bypass democracy because the plebs voted the wrong way.
Seems to me, that presently the 3 key areas that make up our democratic process, has completely collapsed.
@@andrewcheadle948 well isnt that the point Andrew?
The Government wanted to do all this bypassing for Brexit, Bercow stopped them.
They tried again with Covid, the current speaker did not stop them.
Now granted covid was an actual emergency unlike Brexit.
But it shows what could have happened had Bercow not done his job.
That being said, I think alot of covid stuff needs more scrutiny.
Here in NL where I live now, the lockdown was taken to court because the Gov didnt follow proper procedure, it won and made the gov do it properly. Lockdown was technically invalid for about 5 hours.
It was just an important note to ensure procedure didnt slip.
The UK needs this, Starmer is too pathetic and I imagine clueless as he’s such a virgin MP, the speaker doesnt have Bercows balls.
AKA, trying to sabotage Brexit.
I'm surprised you didn't mention his wife, who is a labour member. She definitely had some influence on his decision.
I am not saying she brought him to labour, but when a couple has different political affiliations, it is inevitable that someone's affiliation will change after many years.
I don't think John Bercow listens to his wife, or any woman for that matter.
I wouldn't pay any attention to her opinion! Look who she married!
I think the last few decades reality has shown a "left wing bias" and it ia ahowing on honest autentic people. and with that I dont mean that left wing ideas are automatically the right choice. but the last few decades the left wing parties have constantly taken the more based in reality stance, for example climate change, like tldr here mentions: the adoption act. and that trickle down economics is horrible for the economy and the average worker ( from the reagan and thatcher years).
I find it hard to believe that his wife would have persuaded him one way or an other, he's the kind of man who doesn't know his own mind, lets face it his own Prime Ministers David Cameron, Theresa May or Boris Johson couldn't persuade move him so I doubt very much that his wife would have much of an input.
@@billywoodward584 I agree with your whole post except for the part about him apparently "Not knowing his own mind" - I'm pretty certain he does know his own mind given that he doesn't seem all to afraid to speak out against the Tories, even when he was officially part of the party.
The single least conservative politician in parliament leaves the tories. Who could have foreseen this?
You assume that conservatism is anything to do with the current shower of bastards in the conservative party.
@@archvaldor Sadly Conservatives are the only sane right leaning party in UK. Wish we had more...
@@archvaldor The left goes further left and the right eventually follows the old left.
The Conservative party deliberately abandoned sanity specifically to ensure that there wouldn't be other rival parties to their right, lurching into extremism to absorb the Brexit party. The closest thing Britain has left to a rational right wing part is the Lib Dems.
The conservatives only conserve Blair’s cultural revolution.
There is no option for people who want to reverse it.
Good for him, although not a total surprise; I used to assume he was Labour until about 3 years ago and was surprised to learn he was actually Tory. Plus he's been taking shots at the current state of the Conservative party for a while
I was also surprised to learn that Bercow was a Tory, given his integrity and how he seemed determined to hold various Tory PMs and ministers to account I had assumed he was a Labour MP.
In the days of Johnson and his cabal of cretinous crookery and the brazen Brexit batshittery he is sorely missed as Speaker.
It seems to me the Conservative party in the UK has run out of a real, positive vision for society in favor of crass plutocracy, so it's understandable that some are leaving it behind.
@@Magnulus76 The right globally has no vision as pretty much all its' ideological talking points have been discredited and disproven - unfettered free market economics, nationalism, deregulation , privatisation of commonwealth and tax cuts for the very wealthy have all failed to deliver on the promises made for them to the general public pretty much everywhere around the world that they've been imposed.
All they have left is lib trolling, flag humping and demonisation of the other with more & more people getting wise to that and abandoning them. I hope that the trend of younger people being more liberal than their parents continues and we may yet see some political sanity in this country and finally shake off Thatcher's veil for good.
@@vinh7251 That's a very limited understanding of conservatism. What you're talking about is a particular version that came about in the 1980s. Conservatism has existed in Britain for 300 years. There's an awful lot of ideas in the cupboard. Read Sir Robert Peel, Disraeli, Burke etc...
@@khar12d8 I'll agree that the current strain arose then, as Billy Bragg opined in Take down the Union Jack - "When did it fall apart? Sometime in the 80's when the great and the good gave way to the greedy and the mean." I had some regard for a few of the olde school tories integrity even when I disagreed with them politically but the current crop just like being cruel to poor people and blaming foreigners for all the damage that they do.
I've read some of the authors that you mentioned with a bit of Gibbon, Adam Smith and a couple others thrown into the mix and I'm still not convinced that conservatism has much to offer to ordinary people in the the west in the modern world. It's my understanding that modern British conservatism arose from the collapse of the Whigs and the backlash to the French revolution and has been a reactionary force for "conserving" the elevated status of the landowners and aristocracy from then until the present day.
Their claims of support for personal liberty and small government evaporate when they clash with hereditary privilege, the rights of the renter class being greater than the working class or landing big government contracts with their chums & donors and as such are just bluster and bullshit. If you start from a position of "rich people shouldn't pay taxes or be answerable to the electorate" then you end up with the policies we see being enacted today, at least that would be honest but wouldn't be much of a vote winner I suspect. Given the gullibility of the British public I wouldn't totally discount it though.
In the words of John Kenneth Galbraith "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.". That's it, the end, there is no more. When all the crap and lies are stripped away that is all that modern conservatism is and has.
It's been rumoured that he was left leaning for a while now. I have a fair amount of respect for him. I would be interested to see if he wants to be the leader of the party.
... that would actually be a brilliant idea. Soft left centralist, well known, has an actual personality. He might have an issue pulling back brexiters.
But he could get me as a lib dem to vote for him.
@@tmarritt I think he'd be good at pulling people together. Strong personality and clearly competent. Well liked by the general public. If I were Starmer, I'd be a little concerned. Bercow could have his eyes set on being PM.
Yes please!Watch him destroy boris in the house!Boris is no match for him.He is much smarter than boris! and a jolly good fellow!
Bercow for president!
@@tmarritt labour are centre-left
Bercow might be just the man Labour needs. He's got charisma, he's recognised, and he's liked, he'd make a far better leader of the opposition than Starmer.
And probably friends with those of voting and counting machines.
Well one out of three correct anyway.
@@gojo2194 we don’t use voting machines in the UK
Y… you realise what most people think of Bercow, right? Especially on the left. The man is, at best, a meme. Labour needs him as much as they need Rees-Mogg.
Yet another nail in Labours coffin.
Oh how I miss the “Ordah!” In the House.
You're not alone, mate
Lindsay is a much better speaker though.
@@drdrght what my dog left on the sidewalk this morning is a better speaker than the current one.
@@drdrght Woefully ineffective in the teeth of a PM and Gove who routinely fail to adhere to parliamentary standards.
@@drdrght 🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh, you’re serious!
My family is Labour and we live in the place mentioned to have changed to Lib Dem’s. My family deliberately voted for Lib Dem when they appeared to have a chance of winning.
Our family friends, who often vote Green, also did the same because at the end often day those seats being held by the Conservatives for so long because the Labour vote is split between two sections just isn’t right. I’m glad it worked.
The LibDems are the most underrepresented party in the House of Commons. Last election they got 11% of the votes but only 1,7% of the seats. That's almost 10% of the voting electorate who got no (likeminded) representation. FPTP is a scam.
@@NLTops Greens are more under represented I think. This just shows you cannot seriously run multiple opposition parties ina fptp system and they need to OFFICIALLY ally to beat the Conservatives
@@atomiccritter6492 Depends how you look at it. Last election the Greens got 2,7% of the vote but got 0,2% of the seats. Basically, they got 1 seat instead of 17. For LibDems that's 11% and 1,7%, 11 seats instead of 71.
So proportionally, the Greens lose more (16 out of their 17 seats under PR), but in absolute numbers the LibDems lose more (60 out of their 71 seats under PR).
I called the LibDems the most under represented because they represent a bigger portion of the electorate. It stands out a lot due to their voter share of over 10%. In my country, if a political party gets 0,66% of the vote, they get 1 seat (out of a total of 150). So it's just ludicrous to me that 11% of a country's voters can have certain political views and be almost completely sidelined, and that many Brits think that's fair.
@@NLTops you are making assumptions on a form of PR which is not defined but I agree on the main thrust that smaller parties are under represented in the current fptp system
@@atomiccritter6492 On a form of PR which is not defined? I'm drawing a comparison based on what their seat distribution would be, given their vote tally, under the system my own country (the Netherlands) operates. Our "form of PR" is very clearly defined. Some might even call it a full-fledged political system...
And it's not just small party voters that are disenfranchised. The same can be said for anyone whose vote doesn't result in a representative. The vote of a labour voter living in a tory safe seat constituency is just as powerless as a LibDem or Greens voter in the same constituency. Their vote is equally inconsequential. If you tally up all the votes that led to a candidate and subtract it from the total number of votes, you'll see how many percent of the votes actually mattered (in a given election).
Under PR this number is always extremely high. But even in PR there are some voter groups that don't amount to exactly 1 seat. But only in FPTP can the number of votes that impact the election outcome actually be lower than 50%.
Brings to mind a wise old saying….
“A fleeing monk never praises his monastery “
um, why would he leave if he didn't have grudge with the monastery? :tinking: this saying kind of states the obvious :D
Sure is a wise saying that uses the word fleeing, not leaving. As leaving gives a peaceful parting to mind, while fleeing gives me a picture of escaping into the night to avoid being killed. So yeah, I liked the saying,
@@lordmartinak I'm not sure that is fair. In my opinion, politics should not be about parties at all, but about representatives and their ideas. If one representative finds his beliefs to no long match his party, I say its fair to leave.
Just because parties make us feel group mentality does not mean that representatives should be judged by group mentality.
@@nielskorpel8860 I agree that people should have the right to change their mind (ehm brexit ehm) ... I'm just stating that the saying in question is completely worthless :D
Take a drink every time TLDR plug their Brexit colouring book.
You're going to get absolutely hammered - Jack
@Abby well it *IS* their jobs .....🤦♂️
TLDR is free to us but it isn't free to TLDR they need funds and give us the exceptional quality reporting that they do, don't begrudge them the opportunity to plug their merch to support their channel to provide us with first class reporting.
Honestly, if it saves us from having something like a Nord VPN or Raid sponsorship I'm fine with it.
@@TLDRnews I didn't say it had to be alcoholic. 😜
Probably because Bojo's hair had way too little *O R D E R*
I'm happy for Mr Orda, his personality will give a boost to Labour!
Ah, its so nice to hear about Bercow again. Missed the bugger and I'm not even into politics
@lemon grab That and some the stuff he said had me on my arse 🤣.
This makes a lot of sense. John has always been one of the few conservatives with an ounch of sanity. Labour should give him a warm welcome.
I always watched all debates when he was speaker never watched after, and never cared about UK politics after that, I was only in for the fun he brought, he made everything fun
As Bernard Manning would have said, he was as funny as a fart in a space suit
That’s true. I stopped watching UK Commons debate after his resignation. He had a unique personality and charisma! Lindsey Hoyle is much more classical.
I forgot how much Bercow exuded "secondary school teacher on a monday morning" energy when he was the speaker.
On another note, one explanation I've heard for southern blue seats flipping red or yellow in the south is urban flight due to COVID, left wing urban voters are now moving further into the suburbs and changing the local political balance. Chesham and Amersham fits this theory pretty well, being a border constituency with London. Unfortunately for Labour, I doubt that these gains will make up for the "red wall" losses in the north.
well if the voters move to Lib Dems it doesnt benefit Labour at all
That is likely not without influence, but the shift in Chesham and Amersham was so large that it could not be explained by only that. Interviews on the ground have been shown that a lot of the vote was a switch from the Conservatives to the LibDems as a reaction to the unwillingness of the Conservatives to continue to prioritize the wishes and values of the local constituency in the south as well as a some tactical voting by the local Labour (maybe former) votes as the second largest local move was from Labour to the LibDems.
@@theicebeardk I think you have a good point in this case, though I think COVID has sped up a trend that was already occurring, and it has happened elsewhere. We'll have to see in the next GE how much of an affect it has had overall, since council elections tend to fluctuate a bit more. Any kind of urban flight should create a permanent shift in the political balance.
From what I've heard it's the new "progressive alliance" people from all other lefty parties banding together and voting for a singular one, as let's face it they're all the same nowadays anyway, that's why labour was extinguished there not even getting as many votes as they have members, it's the only chance for these people to dislodge Tory rule as they can't do it on their own merits.
@@matthewwiederspan3025 You've also got the Democrats losing their grip on the white working class vote, which is also happening in the UK with Labour.
Can I just say thank you so much for shortening your shout-out / advert at the beginning of the video to just a few seconds, I've always skipped the first minute on these videos but this new way is so much more bearable! Thank you for listening TLDR!!!
Thanks, glad you like it! Were currently trialing the new format and will be explaining it & other changes in a full video coming out next week - Jack
I don't think any conservative would say Bercow leaving is a bad week.
Equally,imagine the dismay most Labourites will feel...
@@MrJohnnywill You are completely right, they'll take this as the party going to the far right and attracting the bad people from WWII. Haha.
Now he is liked by the British people. More then Johnson.🤔he has more charm as well as being funny. He is a big loss to the Tories. Maybe the biggest mistake they've made. And that's saying a lot.
Have you ever considered writing fantasy stories? Judging by your comment, you'd be quiet good.
@@VloggingCastles Never considered finiahing school. Ever considered learning to spell?
I’ve been waiting for this to happen. In fact I was surprised to learn he was Tory in the first place. Certainly his devotion to honour over party politics makes him seriously out of step with Johnson and his cronies.
Once upon a time not every Tory was incompetent and playing some school drama personality in parliament.
Saying that this is damaging to the Tories implies that there are Britons outside of the comments section of this video who were unaware that he joined Labour long before leaving the Speakership.
lol true
That is not true. He is not allowed to be a member of a party while the is the speaker. This was made clear in the video and is the reason he left the Tory party in the first place. I suggest therefore that you are lying. You must be a Tory
@@tonyb9735
-> -> My point. -> ->
Your head.
Oh, I very much believe Bercow. Frankly, the Tories gave him no choice.
I think so too, I wasn't really interested in politics at the time but when I heard that the _CONSERVATIVE_ Party didn't follow _TRADITION_ and give the speaker, _who is in a neutral position_ a peerage.
Idk how they can claim to be the Conservative Party when they themselves decide to ignore tradition when they don't like to.
Imagine being staying with your party despite having a deffering opinion and being silenced and you don't want to betray them only for them to end up backstabbing you.
@@olsenfernandes3634 LOL there are no rules in Britain which are not made to be broken. The peerage is a reward for service not a right. Bercow constantly over reached in his position to his own preferred ends
@@olsenfernandes3634
Except he demonstrated a clear anti-nationalist bias whilst he was in the seat so the justification for refusing his peerage is he didn’t do the job impartially.
@@tpower1912 To me it appeared that he was the safety-check on power that he ought to be. Wasn't Johnson the one that attempted to pass bills by gaming the prorogation dates? Wasn't he pushing multiple meaningful votes over short period hoping that one finally passes?
The parliamentary system was stretched to its limits, but it seemed to hold much thanks to Bercow's commitment to upholding the rules.
@@Bushflare Can you give examples of anti-nationalism bias though?
It was clear he frustrated Brexit, I won't contend that, but his reasons are totally valid and something someone who was truly impartial would say. He was 100% correct that parliament needs to be involved. At no point did he block something that was being done correctly following established procedure.
There is a difference between having personal bias and acting impartial in a professional capacity, I saw no evidence of unprofessional behaviour from him.
Please cite examples.
Welcome to the Labour Party John. We need more centrists and moderates
I actually met bercow in person and asked him about why he was conservative despite having, relatively, quite left leaning views. He said that the party does not matter as much as the issues you want to tackle and the methods you choose to do so... what a lad.
perhaps but here is the thing people vote for parties, individuals contribute to popularity of the party but by and large the person matters less than the affiliation he or she holds
pushing progressive legislation from a conservative party harms the integrity of that party, and Bercow really should have left years ago, but then he would have likely passed more or less into obscurity and he knows it
He “pretended” to be a conservative to get elected, as the conservatives are the most popular party, then he would go and betray their trust. Kind of like his wife does with him.
@@istoppedcaring6209 here is the thing people vote for parties --- I dont think so. Its names and the individuals and "characters". They certainly dont vote on policies
@@atomiccritter6492 yes they do, when was the last time you voted for an individual you liked from a party you don't generally support?, people don't do that, they don't vote against their interests because they like a person in a party with completely different policies more, not if they don't support the policies of the other party more
@@istoppedcaring6209 I almost guarantee that if you did a quick bit of street polling of the general public VERY VERY few people would be able to name ANY policies of ANY party. Yes I would LOVE that the public voted on policies and issues but youre naive to think to think that its happening to any degree
I don't know if this is so much Bercow sliding to the left as it is the Conservative party moving further to the right. That's happened here in the United States too. Just look at some of the more centrist Republicans like John McCain and how he started to disagree with his own party near the end.
Every party in the US is right. The question is only how far right.
@Don Trump They are centrist anywhere else in the world.
@Don Trump i know you are a troll with that name but time to do some travelling outside if the US when the pandemic allows for it. You will be surprised.
Tories moving further right, really? Boris has gone full woke especially with the climate agenda and allowing unfettered illegal immigration while we've been locked down.
He's as big a traitor as Corbin and Captain Hindsight FFS.
@Don Trump @TorianTammas isn't wrong. Even the more progressive Democrats would be considered centrist or center-left in most modern democracies. As AOC said during the Presidential campaign, "In most democracies Biden and I wouldn't even be in the same party."
He was the only Tory I respected as he was a fair speaker, good man
To be fair to the Tories, there were a number of decent people (Ken Clarke, Dom Grieve, Rory Stewart, David Gaulk, Justine Greening, Oli Letwin, Phil Hammond - and those who formed the Tiggers), but they got ousted by Johnson or were conscientiously forced to leave.
@@martynjones8560 I like Rory Stewart also :)
Welcome to the family Bercow
Yay for starting the video quickly without any subscription prompts
In all seriousness, this was a great format of video. Got to the point, had a few sight gags and the narration was good as always.
I was always very fond of Bercow especially now that he disaproves Boris. Also I like how you went straight into the video.
Someone has to be fond of him, certainly his wife isn’t. He is a pompous shape shifting politician who loves the sound of his own voice
I was waiting for this video
Bercow looked across the aisle and seeing Corbyn, Lammy, Abbott et al felt he would be more comfortable in their company.
You dwell in the past.
But even their company would have been *far* preferable to this lot in the government and the Conservative pary.
@@olmostgudinaf8100 it's about time the conservatives turfed out all these fake conservatives and had an actual conservative party.
I saw a post about how you were struggling with views and I just wanted to say that even if ig doesn't reach many people, to those these videos do reach it is really informative and helpful so please keep it up
I didn't know I could respect this man any more than I already did.
You clearly don't have any 'self respect' then!
So Labour now have Starmer,Abbott and Bercow on their team.Sounds like a winning combination to me,what could possibly go wrong?
Answer = Johnson
How is Abbott a winning combination, she is an absolute car crash, especially when she does any interview on TV.
@@Harihar_Patel look up sarcasm in the dictionary might help you understand andy's comment
@@temslink2000 I'm glad most people got it!
Bercow!! It's so good see you again!
He was the best part of Brexit
Great video!
As a Dutch person Bercow has been in talkshows multiple times and from what he said there I'm very surprised he was a conservative in the past, because his ideas do feel more like labour.
Unless he has played a very long game it's not a revenge based action.
You had me at Bercow.
Awesome stuff TLDR UK!
Good piece
I always knew John was Labour, he certainly didn’t come across as a conservative. Mind you, either for many others in that party
conservatives badly needed that mass exedous of traitorous sycophants waiting for an opportunity to betray them.
I would never have expected that he would have converted to Labour, the Lib Dems probably, but not Labour.
In any other country, perhaps. In the UK's broken political system, he had to choose the only viable alternative.
@Don Trump Is everything muddled up in your head or just politics?
@Patrick Ellis everyone involved with the Rotherham scandal should be hanged.
Its ludicrous to suggest the Conservatives have "lost" him, or that its a blow to the government. He was believed to be about to defect before he became Speaker. Indeed Labour backed him as Speaker precisely because they wished to infuriate Conservatives, by appointing him when it was the Conservatives turn. He did not rejoin the Conservatives after leaving the Speakers chair, and clearly wasn't wanted, as he is so despised by most Conservatives. His joining Labour has been met with hilarity on the Conservative side, some even consider it helps them politically in reminding those voters who deserted Labour over Brexit, why they did so.
@@thecaretaker407 You can't loose what they didn't have in the first place, believe me a typical response is, Bercow is Labour is rather like saying the Pope is Catholic. He is admired almost entirely by people who would never vote Conservstive. In politics the people who count are the people who support you and the people who might. You don't worry about those who will hate you whatever you do, Bercow appeals to them. As for being worried, I think that is Starmer having such a self promoting loose cannon in his ranks.
Speakers usually go directly to the House of Lords to prevent any new career. The fact that a second career for Speakers undermines their objectivity.
how so?
@@atomiccritter6492 If the Speaker wants a future job they may seek to curry favour with those who could offer them a future job.
@@adampowell5376 not really as they would not be a blt to predict who is in power. Weirdly you think being in the House Of lords is not a job...
Timberlake attempted to bring sexy back, let’s hope Bercow can bring ORDEEER back✌️
I thought he was labour, he fought hard enough for them.
No.
You should try and secure an interview with him i think hed be up for it
Also, I do like the way you've split your promo. Although, I just realized that the "complaints" video still isn't actually public yet ^_^
Tories must've been objecting too often from a sedatary position, ah well at least we might finally get some Ordaaaa in labour's ranks now
Following his one man blocking of Brexit I always thought he was Labour.
Thinking is clearly not your forte.
@@damarekonayaro5781 written by a true Remoaner
Great to hear some good news from the UK
Shocker
Yet another nail in Labours coffin. Why would anyone want this turncoat in their party.
Someone who is willing to change their point of view on new information is somebody to be hated it seems. Guess that's why many people have a distaste for scientists.
@@nekroneko I mean look at how the US Republicans treat Dr Fauci
@@nekroneko Well, people seem to hate someone who's smarter than them :V
@@konkey-dong
Calling Fauci a scientist is an exaggeration. He has been a bureaucrat for more than 30 years, hasn’t he?
They call it revenge but... what about not nominating him for the House of Lords? Wasn't that revenge?
This is why the Tories are stupid they should have made him.a Lord asap.
Imagine in the future if he somehow ended up as the Labour leader. That would result in some bloody awesome PMQ's XD
he very probably will.
but i think you'll be surprised how much less effective he is without the final say.
he was a bully, he did abuse his power, he's a typical leftist.
Obligatory like on this video. Props for listening to the community and reducing the time the promotional intro takes!
Finally a channel who actually listens to feedback when they ask it!
Bercow has said much the same thing as many of us have said for months and years. Things that trigger the extremists that exhibit those very traits.
Bercow; the man, the myth, the legend.
The anti democratic NOT lord.
@Zockblatt Shickleblender Found the Brexit Boys.
This is not a loss for the Tories really.
It's like an early Xmas present for them.
Called it
I am so glad to know that the Ordeeer! Ordah! stuff is back on this channel thanks to Bercow's decision.
This just in: Bercow switches from blue neoliberalism to red neoliberalism
To be fair his other option was orange neoliberalism.
@@FakeSchrodingersCat True, and let’s be glad he didn’t go for orange. An upset like that would have shaken western democracy to its very core.
Bercow is amazingly intelligent and a great orator ...x
When is the 8Values Video coming online? I´m really interested in what the outcome of the survey was!
Very much a fan of Bercow, he is exactly what Labour lack right now.
Didn’t see all this,its a good week in politics,I always liked John Bercow now he’s left Boris he’s even better
@@Tux00 A politician that has opinions? My god what has the world come to? Whats next politicians being political?
@@XMysticHerox
To be fair, Bercow’s job was to be the only politician in the chamber who wasn’t opinionated.
@@Bushflare No his job was to be unbiased within the chamber not to hold no opinions.
@@XMysticHerox
Those two terms are functionally identical in the context and you know it. Technicalities are no way to conduct an argument.
@@Bushflare Not at all. By that logic noone is suited for the position. Everyone has opinions and all politicians are going to voice them. I´d rather have someone honest about it.
If you think those are equivalent you don´t understand what bias is.
He is a traitor big time not listening to the people
Loving the new intro
Love Bercow
Finally! A man who can bring order to the Labour party
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yooo that's some funny shit right there
Bercow may, indeed, have “slid to the left” but Labour met him on the road Starmer is taking them down, back to where Tony Blair dumped them well right of centre.
Hardly surprising. I wonder why there has not been a inquiry into his obvious anti brexit stance and his manipulation of parliamentary procedure against the government which should be deemed as a breach of his office as Speaker of the House
Why don't we have us a purge then!
Is there any Bercow's "order, order" compilation?
Who does this tells us most about bercow, labour or the conservatives
It tells us that Bercow has principles, and that Johnson does not. Not sure it tells us anything about Labour.
For many years Bercow seemed to side against the Conservative's. He became a tool of the Labour party knowing he should not take sides. Or be pompous vein and spiteful with his remarks. At last he is out things can get back to sensible normal.
I start to like this guy. He is not afraid to call out Bozo gang.
Berrow defecting is good news for the Conservative Party.
"And he truly was a Conservative." Was Bercow ever truly anything?
@@Bushflare well yes! He's very good at that. I suppose it's something to put on his CV
Labour's new leader???
Honestly, I'm not surprised.
Starmer - I'm having trouble dealing with Johnson's BS.
Bercow - Hold my beer. 🍺😉
would love to see him run for labour leadership and be the prime minister!
Although this would probably never happen but would love if it ever happens
Well he was offered a peerage but he didn’t accept so why would his motive be revenge?
He just said "Ordaaaaaaah" and voila!
When will TLDR do a interview with Bercow?
He might not be every ones cup of tea but whatever your persuasion he’s a character that gets people talking. Tell me something that’s exciting about Kier Starmer 🤔
Bercow was a brilliant speaker of the House during the early brexit years, he was indeed standing up for Parliament. He was providing good drama, but beyond that, he may be one of those rare politicians who do have principles.
Lol i never knew he was a tory to begin with
FEEDBACK: I liked the lack of video, I much prefer the disembodied voice and your merch plug at the END!