I am getting worried that more and more good old Mercs are getting destroyed. I never thought of it that way until I started watching this channel. Thanks for the message! I see SO many people here in SA tearing up the W123s for parts. I need to buy one again asap.
I always try to encourage everyone to love and take great care of these amazing machines. I’d love to be like that M539 Restorations guy. He restores a lot of old school BMWs to immaculate factory conditions and he has lots of public attention. Unfortunately my channel isn’t good enough I guess. But I’ll try to keep going. I just saved a W124 from the junkyard and currently sorting it out and fixing lots of things on it. Let’s encourage others to do the same.
You are doing pretty good, don't put yourself down! M539 Restorations has a unique formula that not many people can emulate. What matters is that work that goes into serious, committed repair and maintenance of older cars is elevated and appreciated. My repair channel for BMW E32's is tiny, barely 1.8k subscribers over three years. But when I get a comment from a guy in Iraq who managed to replace the fuel pump on his E32 using my video, that's all the reward I need. Doing good is good in itself, it doesn't need an extra cherry on top.
Pierre, Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video and for defending the STOCK Classic Mercedes Benz cars and their owners. As you rightly pointed out, there are a limited number of the cars available (around the world). The stock condition of a Classic Mercedes is it's signature, it's DNA, it's raison d'etre. You are therefore right again when you say that changing a classic Mercedes Benz is akin to converting it into an ordinary car! It is NOT an ordinary car!! We therefore must preserve them as they were designed and made. I've made and continue to make great sacrifices to restore my classic Mercedes Benz's so I really appreciate your recognition of us STOCK restorers. Bryan. Nairobi, Kenya.
I've been making a project of restoring my 1977 Mercedes 280E with an M110.984 engine. I wouldn't do it myself, but with the dearth of parts and information, I can understand why people would be inclined to put a modern engine in a classic Mercedes just because it's the easy way to do it. Again, not that I'm planning on doing that, but it's definitely been a challenge to get information on the m110. All that is my way of saying that this is my plea to you and anyone else out there to make more videos on Mercedes inline 6 gassers! 😊🙏🏻 Thanks as always for your channel!
Been slowly getting my 83 240d 4sp back to daily condition, and daily receiving opinions on how to slam it, swap it, what wheels etc. I needed to hear this and needed the encouragement to keep this car the way it was designed to be. Thanks...and yeah those soup people are idiots...
I've got a W115 240D that I've owned for a few months now. Even in the short time I've owned it, I've already had a few people try to tell me that it needs to be slammed or swapped. Absolutely not. It completely ruins the usability, practicality, ride quality, and general class level of the car. Remember, Mercedes-Benz had some of the best auto engineers in the world at the time. They designed the car exactly how it needs to be. With proper care and maintenance it'll be a reliable car that will take you anywhere you want to go, far or near.
I invested a modest amount in my 1993 2.8 w124 5 years ago. I daily drive this car and have enjoyed working on it. Life’s too short. Drive a classic, stock MB and you won’t regret it. I get compliments all the time (not needed but it’s nice to be recognized). Plus 1 for Vito’s encouragement and passion. Save them. There’s only so many built like this.
I try to keep my 1981 W126 (300SD) that I took delivery of on 4/1/1981 (not a joke) and something’s may be more difficult in years ahead. Sources on should be helpful so keep posting.
Thanks Pierre. Am halfway through new timing chain & ALL guides on my 1988 560SEC. Just got timing case cover back on, yes with engine still in car and managed not to stuff the head gaskets. I agree 100% with you. Love this channel, has helped me immensely already. Cheers from Australia.
Pierre, I just found your channel yesterday, I love it. I don’t even own a MB yet but I’m with you 100%. Currently shopping for a w123, I’ll keep you posted on what I find!
Jay Leno had a great set of videos about his W108s and they really gave me an appreciation for what they were. Wish I could afford one, or even be able to find one! They seem like excellent old touring sedans.
That’s awesome man. I bought a 72 280se 4.5 and it’s been in the shop for the past year. I’m having it done the right way. I can’t wait to drive it and keep it exactly like it’s been since 1972!
I have a W108 here in England, in my area there is not another example to be seen, people love this car. It's standard, as the good Lord in Stuttgart intended. It runs sweet on its twin Zeniths (not those Weber thingy's), no rattles, over engineered I know, but this is the benefit many decades later. My point is, why do you like any of the classic models?... don't change anything keep it original where possible. MB knew best, it'll never be a modern car, and that's the point.
I’m in full agreement. Cars are best kept original, especially if they are drivable in todays traffic and have good parts availability like Mercedes Benz. Mercedes are beautiful from an engineering standpoint as much or more than they are from the aesthetic aspect.
Couldnt agree with you more. As you know , mine 108 was sorted out by you and that car drives and handles better than any modern day toyota or honda or Kia. Its more pleasureable to drive than my W221. Love it.
Good talk. I don't understand it either. It is the same in the home renovation industry, taking a beautiful historic property and ruining the historic character by trying to "fix it". If you don't have the skills, hire those who specialize, if you don't have the money, buy a newer home that doesn't contain historic details NOT meant to be destroyed but preserved. Thank God for the established historic districts and properties we do have. You are correct, MB will never produce anything near the quality and beauty of these classics. Treat them with respect.
I like your angle. I’ve got a C124 300CE sitting here that I’m beginning work on. One of the things I used to get all the time was why my Daimler(Jaguar) 5.3 litre V12 wasn’t replaced with a Chev V8 because the original Coventry built engine was ‘such a boat anchor’…bang goes the originality when that sort of engine swap occurs…
Icon doesn't show other people projects. Its Icon project. Its what they do. But I understand that it would been pretty good car with just good restoration. And a lot cheaper for the customer.
I stumbled upon a cheap '65 w110 230 with all original perfect glass and near perfect interior. Some body rot. Manual, 4spd, on the column. I'm told the engine turns but haven't touched it. No title. I'd love to see it go to someone that will rehab it the right way if any of you in the comments are interested, or Pierre, if you know anyone!!! I also have a '91 W124 but that one isn't for sale :) I'm restoring that one myself
Okay , I'm a classic Mercedes owner/lover/Mechanic/daily driver so I dislike seeing these fine old cars modified for the same reasons . On the other hand, I personally have been to Icon's shop and looked closely and carefully at what they're doing and often they save some old relic that's mostly complete but completely dead so I'm not sure they're entirely wrong here . God knows, I can't afford to respray my car much less restore it and Icon's projects take far more $ than restorations . -Nate
I have always fealt a car is better the way it came from the factory. All margues have they're performance models get one those if you can afford it. Also with engines, a Ford in a Ford, a Chevy in a Chevy, etc etc, and especially a Mercedes in a Mercedes. Dang it not every car has to go from 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds. With you 100% on this!
Yep I hate this crap. Saw a W126 420SEL for sale for $1,500 while I was traveling a few months ago. I was excited until I discovered that the idiot who had it swapped an LS motor into it. Went away disgusted
What a great relief to hear such clear words from someone frome the US. I could not believe what I saw in that video. Exchanging the best engine in the world with the ugliest I have ever seen.....could not shake my head enough..... what comes next? Dont destroy our MB's to live your ego! Car is historically worthless from now. How dare you!
What do you think about a W108 with an OM 617? Also I have a friend here in Lansing Michigan who ran a MB repair shop from 1965-2016 who's every day driver is a '95Ford ranger pickup with a 220D engine and transmission. He also has a F150 with a OM617.
I HAVE VIDEO SUGGESTION!! Would you PLEASE make a video discussing why the mileage of an old Mercedes is NOT the end-all be-all of everything when looking for one to buy, and that CONDITION is actually much more important?? I hear people worshipping mileage numbers all the time like it really means something, and I find it a bit irritating! I have even gotten into a couple small arguments about it! I thought they actually called their cars "Derelict" as a style? I agree with you on all points Pierre!
I don't understand the mentality of people who think they with their limited automotive knowledge could possibly think they could better or surpass the ingenuity & sheer genius of the original Mercedes Designers, Engineers & Mechanics. In my opinion, a dilapidated Stock Benz is a far better and more valuable automobile than any franken-benz, chop-shop nightmare.... PERIOD!
Much needed rant. I get sick and tired of seeing these ridiculous modifications to classic Benzes. It is symptomatic of some of the most frightening aspects of our society.......the process of dumbing down and the philistine worship of visual ugliness. These cars are finite and if it doesn't suit you, don't destroy it....get another car.
While I understand restoring cars, I also really like resto-mods that improve a car and make it better than before. I have a 1992 W201 2.3 8v that if the engine ever lets go in it, I have zero intention of putting another slow and mediocre mpg engine back in. It would likely get something that has better power and economy, mated to a transmission that has more than 4 gears. Other than that, it would be built to be a driver that is better than the original, easier to find parts and cheaper to attain those parts. I almost feel like you wouldn't care about that though, as I have rarely seen you even acknowledge the W201, making me think you don't even like them. Maybe I've missed some of your content if you have, but it just feels like you don't respect the W201 for some reason. Yeah I get that there are much 'cooler' and rarer Mercedes out there than what was essentially an entry level car, but after working on them, I can definitely tell they were built to a higher standard than any other car I've worked on before (which is mostly Japanese and American cars with some VWs and the sort mixed in there), so it's definitely still got that Mercedes feel to it and makes me understand why people like Mercedes so much, especially classic Mercedes cars. When it comes down to it though, there are hack restoration jobs out there whether they are true to stock or resto-modded. Do people that restore cars to factory spec deserve more respect than they get? Absolutely. However, someone that does a good resto-mod shouldn't just be talked bad about, simply because they want a car that is better than it was and don't see the point in the novelty of having a car that is factory spec in comparison. Especially when restoring it to factory spec is objectively less enjoyable to drive than what a resto-modders vision for the car is. In my book, quality work is quality work, regardless of whether it is something I like or not.
You need to retitle this video & really push it. Perhaps a direct response video to Icon. The fact that there is only a finite number of these gems left is the BOTTOM LINE. Butchers are certainly a threat to what remains of classic Mercedes, let alone classic anything. I'll never understand why children with credit cards think they know more than Mercedes engineers from the golden era of one of the most important auto manufacturers on the planet.
Amigo a sociedade está ficando cada vez mais imbecil. Dias atras conversando com velho amigo mecânico junto de um médico chegaram a conclusão que a sabedoria da humanidade vem declinando . Eu concordo. A cada dia mais dificil profissional em todos setores. As pessoas estão cada vez mais fúteis . Menos focadas e muito menos observadoras. Trocar um motor mercedes por outro nada a ver. Assim dizemos aqui no Brasil. Matou o automovel
I haven't had the stomach to see that video on the 108 modified by ICON. In addition to Jonathan Wart being insufferable, the idea of them taking one and reengineering it with generic parts and a Chevy engine is just impossible to pass. I thought the restomodded Rolls Royce from a few years ago was blasphemy until I saw that. Perphaps it wasn’t their idea, probably was one of their stupid clients with more money than brain who commissioned the restomod on the Mercedes, but anyway, I agree you should keep those cars OEM because there is nothing wrong about them & also the character they possess is all due to their engineering. The moment you alter that, you end up with something that is no longer real, is just a shell of what it used to be.
NO SHIT! I am Benz Care auto Chattanooga Tn. and I say Just fix It RIGHT! Atrocity! if you can't fix it right sell it and get junk a chevy or ford to trash!
Great vid. I'm a Porsche guy, not a Merc guy, so I have an honest question for you. Where are you on installing later model Merc on an older Mercedes? In the Porsche world, it's totally acceptable to install, for example, later model Boxter calipers on a 944, and so on. Appreciate the feedback
For brake calipers it wouldn't make sense unless you're actually tracking the car and you're experiencing brake fade. For daily driving the limiting factor is your tires and not brake pads or calipers.
Well what do you think about things like what Mechatronic(I think that’s the name) does? They take M113s and 722 5speeds and put them in W108/9s. Mmm after typing that out I know the answer😅. Ok I just watched Icon’s video. It’s a damnass 6.3! They could’ve got a 280s for that crap. An absolute waste
I only had to watch a bit of the video to hear "I'd love to screw up one of those one day" in reference to the W100. Disgusting. He knows exactly what he's doing. What a lame company. I've always hated ICON. I know they've had a close relationship with Toyota, but that doesn't mean anything in my book. The older Land Cruisers are excellent vehicles as they stand. The LED lights and LS motors turn them into clown cars. Maybe if it were something like a clean, spirit-of-stock M113 swap, I could at least warm up to it. GM makes some real garbage, as I've discovered now that I've owned an American car for over a year.
although i can somewhat appreciate a little of what icon does, what they did to that merc was pretty lame. A. for the condition the car was originally in, and B. for as you say making the car like any other crappy restomod. The car looked like it needed suspension work and some upholstery work done, but otherwise a solid car. ripping out the 6.3 is a disgrace. I understand they are difficult to work on, but come on... jonathan ward uses the excuse of "if you are out in the middle of nowhere and something goes wrong you can go to wherever and fix it" but that is absurd. who in the year of our lord 2022 is driving that car out into nowhere in the first place, and second, if the car is in good mechanical standing, I am sure it would be fine to drive out into nowhere. furthermore, using the excuse of making it more reliable is like me grafting a casio f-91 onto a rolex because it is more reliable. owning any classic/vintage car is not purely about reliability, it is because a classic car offers something that a modern car does not, any potential reliability is a bonus.
@@n9zmn The channel's content used to be much better. The videos would actually show you how to do things. Now most of the videos are just Pierre talking and being angry at the world. The video productions became lazy about two years ago when they stopped even bothering to come up with a new thumbnail for each video. The last 120 videos have all used the same thumbnail photo, and the video titles are often lazy and full of spelling and grammar errors. If you sort all of the videos by the number of views, nothing that has been posted in the last year is in the top 150 most viewed videos on the channel. These days they rarely top 2000 views. If only five percent of your subscribers are watching the videos, it's pretty clear there's a problem.
We’ll said Pierre! The fantastic work of restoration and dedication needs to be documented and shared with the world!
Agree...more power to you and many thanks
The key word with classic cars should be "preservation" This is what should be at the heart of this passion/enthusiasm
I am getting worried that more and more good old Mercs are getting destroyed. I never thought of it that way until I started watching this channel. Thanks for the message! I see SO many people here in SA tearing up the W123s for parts. I need to buy one again asap.
I always try to encourage everyone to love and take great care of these amazing machines. I’d love to be like that M539 Restorations guy. He restores a lot of old school BMWs to immaculate factory conditions and he has lots of public attention. Unfortunately my channel isn’t good enough I guess. But I’ll try to keep going. I just saved a W124 from the junkyard and currently sorting it out and fixing lots of things on it. Let’s encourage others to do the same.
Great. Pierre and Vito's together. Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
You are doing pretty good, don't put yourself down! M539 Restorations has a unique formula that not many people can emulate. What matters is that work that goes into serious, committed repair and maintenance of older cars is elevated and appreciated.
My repair channel for BMW E32's is tiny, barely 1.8k subscribers over three years. But when I get a comment from a guy in Iraq who managed to replace the fuel pump on his E32 using my video, that's all the reward I need. Doing good is good in itself, it doesn't need an extra cherry on top.
Pierre,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video and for defending the STOCK Classic Mercedes Benz cars and their owners. As you rightly pointed out, there are a limited number of the cars available (around the world). The stock condition of a Classic Mercedes is it's signature, it's DNA, it's raison d'etre. You are therefore right again when you say that changing a classic Mercedes Benz is akin to converting it into an ordinary car! It is NOT an ordinary car!! We therefore must preserve them as they were designed and made.
I've made and continue to make great sacrifices to restore my classic Mercedes Benz's so I really appreciate your recognition of us STOCK restorers.
Bryan.
Nairobi, Kenya.
I've been making a project of restoring my 1977 Mercedes 280E with an M110.984 engine. I wouldn't do it myself, but with the dearth of parts and information, I can understand why people would be inclined to put a modern engine in a classic Mercedes just because it's the easy way to do it. Again, not that I'm planning on doing that, but it's definitely been a challenge to get information on the m110.
All that is my way of saying that this is my plea to you and anyone else out there to make more videos on Mercedes inline 6 gassers! 😊🙏🏻
Thanks as always for your channel!
Been slowly getting my 83 240d 4sp back to daily condition, and daily receiving opinions on how to slam it, swap it, what wheels etc. I needed to hear this and needed the encouragement to keep this car the way it was designed to be. Thanks...and yeah those soup people are idiots...
agreed. im doing the same with my 82 240D i daily drive it and maintain it
I've got a W115 240D that I've owned for a few months now. Even in the short time I've owned it, I've already had a few people try to tell me that it needs to be slammed or swapped. Absolutely not. It completely ruins the usability, practicality, ride quality, and general class level of the car. Remember, Mercedes-Benz had some of the best auto engineers in the world at the time. They designed the car exactly how it needs to be. With proper care and maintenance it'll be a reliable car that will take you anywhere you want to go, far or near.
@@elliottp.8340 There are a lot of idiots out there. Thankfully, there are plenty of other cheaper vehicles for them to ruin with modifications.
I invested a modest amount in my 1993 2.8 w124 5 years ago. I daily drive this car and have enjoyed working on it. Life’s too short. Drive a classic, stock MB and you won’t regret it. I get compliments all the time (not needed but it’s nice to be recognized). Plus 1 for Vito’s encouragement and passion. Save them. There’s only so many built like this.
I try to keep my 1981 W126 (300SD) that I took delivery of on 4/1/1981 (not a joke) and something’s may be more difficult in years ahead. Sources on
should be helpful so keep posting.
Thanks Pierre. Am halfway through new timing chain & ALL guides on my 1988 560SEC. Just got timing case cover back on, yes with engine still in car and managed not to stuff the head gaskets. I agree 100% with you. Love this channel, has helped me immensely already. Cheers from Australia.
Pierre, I just found your channel yesterday, I love it. I don’t even own a MB yet but I’m with you 100%. Currently shopping for a w123, I’ll keep you posted on what I find!
Jay Leno had a great set of videos about his W108s and they really gave me an appreciation for what they were. Wish I could afford one, or even be able to find one! They seem like excellent old touring sedans.
Absolutely 💯
The heart of any car is the engine period.
Bless you for your willingness to speak your thoughts!!!
So many just remain silent and shake their heads!
I have 2 W201 2.6 cars - love the as ORIGINAL. KEEP the ORIGINAL. Well said mate.
Keep up the good fight Pierre! Enjoy your videos and passion for the classic Mercedes! Best wishes from 🇬🇧🏴 UK
That’s awesome man. I bought a 72 280se 4.5 and it’s been in the shop for the past year. I’m having it done the right way. I can’t wait to drive it and keep it exactly like it’s been since 1972!
I find the best advice here ...
Word up brother!
Agree 100%.
Restomods and LS swaps are idiot and poor man's restoration without having to admit it.
thanks
I have a W108 here in England, in my area there is not another example to be seen, people love this car. It's standard, as the good Lord in Stuttgart intended. It runs sweet on its twin Zeniths (not those Weber thingy's), no rattles, over engineered I know, but this is the benefit many decades later. My point is, why do you like any of the classic models?... don't change anything keep it original where possible. MB knew best, it'll never be a modern car, and that's the point.
I’m in full agreement. Cars are best kept original, especially if they are drivable in todays traffic and have good parts availability like Mercedes Benz. Mercedes are beautiful from an engineering standpoint as much or more than they are from the aesthetic aspect.
Couldnt agree with you more. As you know , mine 108 was sorted out by you and that car drives and handles better than any modern day toyota or honda or Kia. Its more pleasureable to drive than my W221. Love it.
Nothing against people who customize their classic Benz’s but I must say I do understand and agree with what you are saying.
If you wanna scratch that LS swap itch then there's plenty of 70's & 80's Camaros and Firebirds out there to wrench on. The LS fits just fine in them.
The 70's & 80 GM muscle cars have better resale value, then the 4 doors MB, of the 60's and 70's.
I'm a GM guy just behind being a Mercedes and Toyota guy, yet I agree
Good talk. I don't understand it either. It is the same in the home renovation industry, taking a beautiful historic property and ruining the historic character by trying to "fix it". If you don't have the skills, hire those who specialize, if you don't have the money, buy a newer home that doesn't contain historic details NOT meant to be destroyed but preserved. Thank God for the established historic districts and properties we do have.
You are correct, MB will never produce anything near the quality and beauty of these classics. Treat them with respect.
This could be an introduction to many conversations.
I like your angle. I’ve got a C124 300CE sitting here that I’m beginning work on. One of the things I used to get all the time was why my Daimler(Jaguar) 5.3 litre V12 wasn’t replaced with a Chev V8 because the original Coventry built engine was ‘such a boat anchor’…bang goes the originality when that sort of engine swap occurs…
Agree 100%
It’s funny to see a video of someone putting a 617 into a jeep. It’s done quite often
Icon doesn't show other people projects. Its Icon project. Its what they do. But I understand that it would been pretty good car with just good restoration. And a lot cheaper for the customer.
Here here!
Bien dicho Pierre!
I stumbled upon a cheap '65 w110 230 with all original perfect glass and near perfect interior. Some body rot. Manual, 4spd, on the column. I'm told the engine turns but haven't touched it. No title. I'd love to see it go to someone that will rehab it the right way if any of you in the comments are interested, or Pierre, if you know anyone!!!
I also have a '91 W124 but that one isn't for sale :) I'm restoring that one myself
Okay , I'm a classic Mercedes owner/lover/Mechanic/daily driver so I dislike seeing these fine old cars modified for the same reasons .
On the other hand, I personally have been to Icon's shop and looked closely and carefully at what they're doing and often they save some old relic that's mostly complete but completely dead so I'm not sure they're entirely wrong here .
God knows, I can't afford to respray my car much less restore it and Icon's projects take far more $ than restorations .
-Nate
Agreed. I like original. Regardless of the car brand. Same with radios and clocks-fix the original
I have always fealt a car is better the way it came from the factory.
All margues have they're performance models get one those if you can afford it.
Also with engines, a Ford in a Ford, a Chevy in a Chevy, etc etc, and especially a Mercedes in a Mercedes.
Dang it not every car has to go from 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds.
With you 100% on this!
Yep I hate this crap. Saw a W126 420SEL for sale for $1,500 while I was traveling a few months ago. I was excited until I discovered that the idiot who had it swapped an LS motor into it. Went away disgusted
What a great relief to hear such clear words from someone frome the US. I could not believe what I saw in that video. Exchanging the best engine in the world with the ugliest I have ever seen.....could not shake my head enough..... what comes next? Dont destroy our MB's to live your ego! Car is historically worthless from now. How dare you!
I like original and modded cars but if I'm going to mod a 108/109 or any other model I'm sticking with a Benz engine.
Rule number one for keeping your "secret" UA-cam channel secret is don't tell people about it.
What do you think about a W108 with an OM 617? Also I have a friend here in Lansing Michigan who ran a MB repair shop from 1965-2016 who's every day driver is a '95Ford ranger pickup with a 220D engine and transmission. He also has a F150 with a OM617.
All My Benz cars are 1980's---2 82's and a 1988 420 SEL
I HAVE VIDEO SUGGESTION!! Would you PLEASE make a video discussing why the mileage of an old Mercedes is NOT the end-all be-all of everything when looking for one to buy, and that CONDITION is actually much more important?? I hear people worshipping mileage numbers all the time like it really means something, and I find it a bit irritating! I have even gotten into a couple small arguments about it!
I thought they actually called their cars "Derelict" as a style? I agree with you on all points Pierre!
I don't understand the mentality of people who think they with their limited automotive knowledge could possibly think they could better or surpass the ingenuity & sheer genius of the original Mercedes Designers, Engineers & Mechanics.
In my opinion, a dilapidated Stock Benz is a far better and more valuable automobile than any franken-benz, chop-shop nightmare.... PERIOD!
These cars are desirable because they are great cars. Remember all the Jags that had Chebby engines jammed into them in the 80s? No one want them now.
Much needed rant. I get sick and tired of seeing these ridiculous modifications to classic Benzes. It is symptomatic of some of the most frightening aspects of our society.......the process of dumbing down and the philistine worship of visual ugliness. These cars are finite and if it doesn't suit you, don't destroy it....get another car.
WhistlinDiesel has entered the chat 😂
Lord help us all if he ever does 😂
Dear God please no
I did enjoy WD’s test of a newer G Class where it held up very well to desert jumping and other shenanigans
While I understand restoring cars, I also really like resto-mods that improve a car and make it better than before. I have a 1992 W201 2.3 8v that if the engine ever lets go in it, I have zero intention of putting another slow and mediocre mpg engine back in. It would likely get something that has better power and economy, mated to a transmission that has more than 4 gears. Other than that, it would be built to be a driver that is better than the original, easier to find parts and cheaper to attain those parts. I almost feel like you wouldn't care about that though, as I have rarely seen you even acknowledge the W201, making me think you don't even like them. Maybe I've missed some of your content if you have, but it just feels like you don't respect the W201 for some reason. Yeah I get that there are much 'cooler' and rarer Mercedes out there than what was essentially an entry level car, but after working on them, I can definitely tell they were built to a higher standard than any other car I've worked on before (which is mostly Japanese and American cars with some VWs and the sort mixed in there), so it's definitely still got that Mercedes feel to it and makes me understand why people like Mercedes so much, especially classic Mercedes cars.
When it comes down to it though, there are hack restoration jobs out there whether they are true to stock or resto-modded. Do people that restore cars to factory spec deserve more respect than they get? Absolutely. However, someone that does a good resto-mod shouldn't just be talked bad about, simply because they want a car that is better than it was and don't see the point in the novelty of having a car that is factory spec in comparison. Especially when restoring it to factory spec is objectively less enjoyable to drive than what a resto-modders vision for the car is. In my book, quality work is quality work, regardless of whether it is something I like or not.
You need to retitle this video & really push it. Perhaps a direct response video to Icon. The fact that there is only a finite number of these gems left is the BOTTOM LINE. Butchers are certainly a threat to what remains of classic Mercedes, let alone classic anything. I'll never understand why children with credit cards think they know more than Mercedes engineers from the golden era of one of the most important auto manufacturers on the planet.
Amigo a sociedade está ficando cada vez mais imbecil. Dias atras conversando com velho amigo mecânico junto de um médico chegaram a conclusão que a sabedoria da humanidade vem declinando . Eu concordo. A cada dia mais dificil profissional em todos setores. As pessoas estão cada vez mais fúteis . Menos focadas e muito menos observadoras. Trocar um motor mercedes por outro nada a ver. Assim dizemos aqui no Brasil. Matou o automovel
I haven't had the stomach to see that video on the 108 modified by ICON. In addition to Jonathan Wart being insufferable, the idea of them taking one and reengineering it with generic parts and a Chevy engine is just impossible to pass. I thought the restomodded Rolls Royce from a few years ago was blasphemy until I saw that. Perphaps it wasn’t their idea, probably was one of their stupid clients with more money than brain who commissioned the restomod on the Mercedes, but anyway, I agree you should keep those cars OEM because there is nothing wrong about them & also the character they possess is all due to their engineering. The moment you alter that, you end up with something that is no longer real, is just a shell of what it used to be.
NO SHIT! I am Benz Care auto Chattanooga Tn. and I say Just fix It RIGHT! Atrocity! if you can't fix it right sell it and get junk a chevy or ford to trash!
Great vid. I'm a Porsche guy, not a Merc guy, so I have an honest question for you. Where are you on installing later model Merc on an older Mercedes? In the Porsche world, it's totally acceptable to install, for example, later model Boxter calipers on a 944, and so on. Appreciate the feedback
For brake calipers it wouldn't make sense unless you're actually tracking the car and you're experiencing brake fade. For daily driving the limiting factor is your tires and not brake pads or calipers.
Well what do you think about things like what Mechatronic(I think that’s the name) does? They take M113s and 722 5speeds and put them in W108/9s. Mmm after typing that out I know the answer😅.
Ok I just watched Icon’s video. It’s a damnass 6.3! They could’ve got a 280s for that crap. An absolute waste
The car they ruined was a 6.3
They do it for money that's all
I only had to watch a bit of the video to hear "I'd love to screw up one of those one day" in reference to the W100. Disgusting. He knows exactly what he's doing. What a lame company. I've always hated ICON. I know they've had a close relationship with Toyota, but that doesn't mean anything in my book. The older Land Cruisers are excellent vehicles as they stand. The LED lights and LS motors turn them into clown cars. Maybe if it were something like a clean, spirit-of-stock M113 swap, I could at least warm up to it. GM makes some real garbage, as I've discovered now that I've owned an American car for over a year.
although i can somewhat appreciate a little of what icon does, what they did to that merc was pretty lame. A. for the condition the car was originally in, and B. for as you say making the car like any other crappy restomod. The car looked like it needed suspension work and some upholstery work done, but otherwise a solid car. ripping out the 6.3 is a disgrace. I understand they are difficult to work on, but come on... jonathan ward uses the excuse of "if you are out in the middle of nowhere and something goes wrong you can go to wherever and fix it" but that is absurd. who in the year of our lord 2022 is driving that car out into nowhere in the first place, and second, if the car is in good mechanical standing, I am sure it would be fine to drive out into nowhere. furthermore, using the excuse of making it more reliable is like me grafting a casio f-91 onto a rolex because it is more reliable. owning any classic/vintage car is not purely about reliability, it is because a classic car offers something that a modern car does not, any potential reliability is a bonus.
Nothing wrong, with a LS engine in a vintage MB. It going to be more common in the years to come.
A few months ago you were practically begging for more views and subscribers. Just sayin'.
That’s because he’s getting dramatic and clickbaity. Content is weak.
@@n9zmn The channel's content used to be much better. The videos would actually show you how to do things.
Now most of the videos are just Pierre talking and being angry at the world.
The video productions became lazy about two years ago when they stopped even bothering to come up with a new thumbnail for each video. The last 120 videos have all used the same thumbnail photo, and the video titles are often lazy and full of spelling and grammar errors.
If you sort all of the videos by the number of views, nothing that has been posted in the last year is in the top 150 most viewed videos on the channel. These days they rarely top 2000 views. If only five percent of your subscribers are watching the videos, it's pretty clear there's a problem.
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