In Australia, during the covid internment period, international travellers arriving back to Australia had mandatory hotel detention. They paid enormous amounts of $$ for that detention. When the internment requirements were lifted due to shifting covid policies, governments were left paying for contracts with hotels where there were no travellers staying for about a year after. We the people caused an uproar asking why tax payer dollars were still paying for contracts that should have had a sunset clause in them. Turns out, the politicians and spouses owned or had shares or financial interests in those hotels. I'll bet my left foot that's exactly what's happening in the UK and USA. The hotels will be owned or run by political interests and political allies. That's why they'll be housed in hotels to suck dry the teet of the tax payer in the same way that politicians create wars to fund the vested interests in the military-industrial complex.
The 4 star hotels for migrants in NYC and the Mayor in control of who gets these contracts. He and other Dems were the welcome wagon greeting the migrants at Port Authority bus terminal.
The explosion of unasked for hotels in the United States is incredible. I live in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest and our metro area has added about 15 hotels the last 15 years or so. There is one downtown area that doesn't have a gas station within a few miles of it but somehow added 2 more hotels to the 2 it already had. It's been fairly obvious for some time that these were put in place for a reason.
@@HugoTheGOAT01The quote is, “History is written by the winner.” Also, Murray is correct on this idiot talking to Tucker. Guy doesn’t know his own head from his ass.
Dean West: Couldn't agree more. The irony is that he recommends Victor Davis Hanson's rebuttle of Cooper. But I just watched it and VDH looks and sounds like Murray in this interview, he doesn't want to be there. Hard to watch.
What's your offer then? What's "the way out"? It's so easy to criticize we all our have grievances with this beast. What's your first step as a leader???
Governments, as Ann Coulter points out, are about the voters at elections, then about their donors at all other times. The government works for the rich. People who do not understand that, are the people who do not understand why things are like they are. People don't want immigration but they get it for the sake of cheap labor for the rich, for instance.
100%I am in NZ and will never vote when both parties i suspect controlled by 1 entity (U.S).,good will overcome evil eventually ,most likely through violence judgn historicaly. Take everything from a man and you have no control over him.
Murray speaks facts from his British imperialist pov and interest. He does not get to tell Americans what our interests are based on a foreign country's history and interests. We had no reason to be in WW1 or WW2.
@@jmo8525 Exactly.The Douglas Murray fan club needs to take a look at how on big issues he is often wrong.This was the man who predicted a Ukraine victory in 2022.Now the reality has sunk in he is saying "they will have to accept the loss of land".My friend anyone with a brain could have worked out that Russia cannot be beaten by Ukraine.
@@jmo8525if you’re of that opinion then you don’t get to comment on the actions and decisions of our leaders here in Europe. The fact is that you involved yourself way too late because you eventually realised what the implications of a fallen Europe actually were
Yep. Disgusting that Tucker Carlson let that idiot on, and had no pushback. Tucker blames the West for everything. Which is especially hilarious because he helped off a million people with his WMD lie.
None of us in today's world can understand a country in "total war" where the entire population are in some sort of war industry and on the brink of starvation. We cannot comprehend it at all. Having said that.... we might find out soon, thanks to the wisdom of our leaders....
Churchill literally threw out a peace offering from Germans that would have saved the British empire in 1940. Instead he flushed his own people down the toilet. Do your own research on his motivations....
Churchill is usually attacked as a colonist who preyed on darker skinned peoples, this is the first time I've ever heard someone complaining that he was being mean to Nazis.
look up the bombing of the city of dresden. He targeted civilian population centers where civilians were fleeing the Russians. what he ordered was a genocide of civilians, with zero military purpose.
Im from Hull and after London it was Hull that was bombed the most. My friends dad was to young to go to war but not young enough to not help out at home. He pulled people out of bombed buildings, he helped retrieve dead people from piles of rubble, there are still bomb shelters in peoples back gardens in some parts of the city and we still have bombed buildings still standing some what. When you go to the beaches right up the east coast there are still war bunkers all the way up the coast. For me at my age it was my grandads generation that lived it, but we heard the stories we know the life they lived to survive but after that generation is gone there is no direct link to what they did and what they went through. Kids today probably havent even heard of WW2 a lot of them and thats not even a joke, there was levels of respect and decency among the people that went through all this that allowed for the world to be as free as it is today and barely anyone respects it.
"as free as it is today" You can't cut hair in the US without a license, without permission from the state The EU literally has TV licenses What freedom are you referring to?
@@TheMakersRage But maybe you should be a little more humble about an endlessly complex conflict than you should be about a simple physical reality. Especially when the people in power benefit from lying about it.
Even with the claimed complexity it is painfully obvious to most people who started and kept the second world war going, it's not as complicated as you want to make it out to be@@secretname4190
The thing that people miss about this is that Churchill - like MLK Jr, Malcolm X, Gandhi etc is that they are not just people, with flaws and attitudes of their time, they are SYMBOLS. They represent something larger than themselves. For Brits Churchill is an icon of our grandparents fight against fascism and got them through terrifying and profoundly difficult times. The point of going after Churchill is not about him it’s about destroying what he represents. US. A sense of Britishness and pride in our country. They’re not after him, they’re after US - and he’s just in the way.,
Now replace the word "Churchill" with the word "Stalin" - and you'll get a tiny glimpse of how Russians felt for the last 80(!) years of the West tirelessly painting him as nothing more than a ruthless, bloodthirsty dictator.
The guy isn't 'going after Churchill', he's trying to find the truth. The people who want to destroy you are your own government with your deranged prime minister while most of you do nothing. It seems you only fight against fascism when it's outside your country. You, as a society, have been showing no pride in this glorious, gorgeous country of yours, I'm not sure you even deserve it. I don't know what your brave grandparents would say about you now.
Maybe he didn't want to waste time on the bs that 'historian' talked about. I saw every minute of it, and it was painful. Why Tucker just goes along with things that are demonstrably wrong is crazy.
His statements of critique from experts and historians whose analysis was detailed and refuted wasn't sufficient? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 He was laughing at the gullibility and breathtaking ignorance of his host and his inability to exit his partisan echo chamber. Pure Tribalism.
Murray is not a historian. Every point brought up in that Tucker interview was wildly incorrect. Pff the top of my head. Cyclones made Indians starve, not Churchill xD
You're right. No one is above critique. But that includes the critics too, doesn't it? Isn't it entirely fair to debate their methods, motives, and conclusions?
No its not fair to criticize someone FOR being critical. Calling a man ignorant because he’s being honest is trying to shut down honest discourse and replace it with discourse that perpetually takes into account a certain narrative in order to not offend someone. We all know who’s offended by everything and ashamed of nothing. Tucker decided to cut the crap, we should all try it sometime, pbd is crap infused all day
The pill has allowed us to prioritise fun and luxuries over having children. In my youth I thought that was good, but now I've had to come to the conclusion that the Pope was right. The pill has jeopardised the well-being of our civilisation.
The pill was invented by a white woman to remove the black population. There's a hint. The pill was popularised by radical, hateful feminists, along with abortion, such as Simone. There's another hint. Since the 1960s, birth rate has been rapidly dropping in most Western nations. There's another hint. And there's some evidence that the pill also changes female biology negatively and messes up their natural cycles and such. It's simple logic: if you stop having children, you have jeopardised survival itself. Simple maths tells you that. It's the most anti-human, unnatural thing in history, alongside transgenderism, abortion, actual sexism (i.e. refusal to interact with the opposite sex), child murder, A.I., anti-family, and suicide (for the most part -- you can look at such things through a Darwinian lens, but the fundamental reality does not change). Maybe there are a few other things on that list, also. Interesting, such things are popular and pushed since the 1960s, and didn't really exist before that time.
Douglas Murray is a war mongering neocon. I don't think you understand how deep the civil war on the right is. In 4 years, Douglas Murray will be propping up democrats because they'll be the only ones advocating for the wars he wants.
Tucker would never do it because Murray is far more educated on history and would conclusively undermine key aspects of Tucker's worldview/narrative. Similarly, Tucker won't interview Ben Shapiro.
@@prometheusrex1why bother with Shapiro though? He’s shown himself as a complete shill who only attacks low hanging fruit issues. Supports more forever Wars and puts a certain country above the USA in terms of its best interest.
With Tucker Carlson, it's about giving anyone he interviews their say and viewpoint. It's called being unbiased and letting people talk. Something you two should practice.
He glorified him as the best popular historian of our time...unbiased? . He did not question the facts. This is not an interview but a propaganda podcast of an ignorant interviewer.
wtf, that guy misrepresented historical facts with his antisemetic bs and sounded like one of Göbbel's goons. Carlson legitimized his bs conspiracy by not commenting or correcting him.
Also tucker said he simply was going to interview the most ‘banned’ people to discover what they had to say .... a great idea , let people listen and then debunk/decide for themselves.
The best counter to Churchill criticism, is to get someone who is indoctrinated on Churchill.. 😂 and you know he was indoctrinated when he mentioned public schools!! 😂😂
@@jaymanson3736 Meh. I haven't seen it. On the other hand, Murray has painted himself into a corner with his pro Israel stance. His support has shrunk to a small fraction of whatever it was.
@@jaymanson3736 Murray thinks that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. This happened 23 years ago; why would anyone trust this quisling on matters that occurred between 80 and 110 years ago? FYI, because PBD doesn't fact-check b'st'rds like Murray, I will: in 1937, the UK Parliament described Germany as 'the only Bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe'. Two years later, Churchill assisted Stalin is destroying the only bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe. And here we are! Another FYI: Yes, Germany invaded Poland in order to liberate the Germans who were being persecuted by the Poles in the German territory that had been annexed after WWI but Russia _also_ invaded Poland just a couple of weeks later. When Russia went into Poland however, they rounded up 30,000 Poles, the cream of Polish society, took them to the forest and machine-gunned them into pits. This became known as the Katyn Forest Massacre and Douglas Murray would have that episode air-brushed out of history in order to pander to his globalist masters. Churchill was made PM in 1939 for the sole purpose of engaging in the genocide of the Germans and Murray, a great fan of the genocide currently taking place in Gaza _and_ the Holodomor 3.0 taking place in the Ukraine never saw a genocide he didn't like. He is a monster and a liar. Patrick Bet David isn't far behind him either! Is he gay too? Is it a fan-boy thing?
The “facts” we learned as children are hard to overcome. We owe it to ourselves to challenge our beliefs. Especially on the subjects we are passionate enough about to take a stand on
Some of Tucker's guests are "out there," but I enjoy hearing ALL opinions, no matter how "out there" they are because it helps refine my own thoughts on the issues. Why censor someone because you disagree with them? Instead, hear them and debate them!
@@carefulconsumer8682 the problem is Tucker pushes those views as facts to a gullible audience (not accusing you of being gullible). Tucker prefaces most discussions as "you've been lied to". Tucker touted Cooper as one of the best and most honest historians.
misstating historical facts is not an opinion and leaving this fake historical antisemetic narrative uncommented is prrof to Carlsons moral depreavation... as if being a Putin shill wasn't enogh, now he let's literal fascists speak and doesn't even correct them when they blatently misrepresent histroical facts.
His "pompous attitude" was partly in response to PBD's constant BOORISH rudeness and arrogant attacks, very different from previous guests. I think he was trying to COMPETE with Murray's far superior intellect and failing.
@@ZeldaZorch205Aw is widdle doggy a victim? oh that's too bad for the boy. Did he cry? Get him a cookie please and warm milk. Pat was really really mean to lil doggy? so sorry! FOH pompous boi
Douglas is not being pompous at all!! He is passionate about his country's history and well educated on the subject of WWII. His grandparents lived in London at the time of the Blitz. Do you know what the blitz was in London?...
Owned by “The Focus” hated communism then strangely loved it, loved Hitler then strangely hated him, cost us the empire and led us to where we are today.
Just look at Europe today. Something happened around WWII. Look who has the most power today and what they are doing to the west. Listen to speeches from AH and think.
Murray thinks that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. This happened 23 years ago; why would anyone trust this quisling on matters that occurred between 80 and 110 years ago? FYI, because PBD doesn't fact-check b'st'rds like Murray, I will: in 1937, the UK Parliament described Germany as 'the only Bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe'. Two years later, Churchill assisted Stalin is destroying the only bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe. And here we are! Another FYI: Yes, Germany invaded Poland in order to liberate the Germans who were being persecuted by the Poles in the German territory that had been annexed after WWI but Russia _also_ invaded Poland just a couple of weeks later. When Russia went into Poland however, they rounded up 30,000 Poles, the cream of Polish society, took them to the forest and machine-gunned them into pits. This became known as the Katyn Forest Massacre and Douglas Murray would have that episode air-brushed out of history in order to pander to his globalist masters. Churchill was made PM in 1939 for the sole purpose of engaging in the genocide of the Germans and Murray, a great fan of the genocide currently taking place in Gaza _and_ the Holodomor 3.0 taking place in the Ukraine never saw a genocide he didn't like. He is a monster and a liar. Patrick Bet David isn't far behind him either! Is he gay too? Is it a fan-boy thing?
lol Foreal. People like this guy pretend that because Churchill wasn’t in office that it doesn’t matter. He was the main opposition and his war party is the reason chamberlain declared war in the first place, due to the pressure. He also does not acknowledge that Britain bombed Berlin before “the blitz” and also omits Germany asking for peace both after Poland and france
Is reading decent history on Churchill (or the war) too much to ask? You know, with cited evidence and acknowledgement of alternative theories? Or maybe you’re too lazy for that so you would prefer to regurgitate the talking points of Herr Goebbels?
Churchill was not in power until May 10, 1940, the DAY Hitler invaded France. So, how did Church 'make Hitler invade France'? Which is Cooper's claim. England was MAKING MEAL DEALS with Hitler as late as early 1940. It doesn't matter to what degree Churchill actually wanted war with Nazism. England literally gave Hitler a navy in the 1930s. We let him grow, quite literally. He also invaded and stole various pieces of land in 1938. He refused to accept the terms of WWI. He created a vast standing army. He created deeply anti-Semitic laws in 1935. He refused to properly engage, on the global stage. He made a pact with Stalin. What more do you want? Hitler was planning to invade England as early as 1939; hence, he had a list on the British leaders to arrest/murder. Just as he had a book on Polish leaders to kill since 1937, long before the invasion, and Churchill became a key voice. Explain that timeline and intention? Look into the the Gestapo's foreign intelligence. It began compiling the Sonderfahnungliste GB - the 'special search' list for Great Britain long before May 10, 1940. And Special Prosecution Book - Poland (Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen), which was a list of 61,000 Polish leaders and thinkers to kill in aiding the intended future invasion and population replacement since 1937 -- 2 years before the invasion! You might also look into Hitler's clear plan to invade and repopulate ALL OF EUROPE since the 1933, when he first came to power. This was to be the Greater Germanic Reich. He openly makes it very clear that he's the Third Reich. It's in the name. It's throughout his 1925 book. The Third Empire or Realm. The first was Holy Roman Empire. The second was the German Empire. He wanted to take the 'old' German borders back. He wanted Poland, Netherlands, Austria, Denmark, northern France, western Russia -- all of it. I quote: 'As early as the autumn of 1933, Adolf Hitler envisioned annexing such territories as Bohemia, western Poland, and Austria to Germany and the formation of satellite or puppet states without independent economies or policies of their own.' See this link, too:web.archive.org/web/20210521204954/www.obersalzberg.de/en/exhibition/zweiter-weltkrieg/occupied-europe/utopie-grossgermanisches-reich/. And here's another thing: when did it become a bad thing to go to war with Nazism? What is your argument against this? Do you also support Hamas by any chance? Maybe Mao or Lenin while you're at it? Let me make this crystal clear for you. Hitler, Hamas, all the Muslim terrorists in England, all the communist murderers. They should have all been assassinated instantly, and war against them is justified and the right of the state and its free people. I have news for you: if you support Hitler/anti-British Empire during WWII, then you're a Neo-Nazi and on the 'wrong side of history' -- quite literally. The next 70 years won't remember your stance or pro-Nazism, in the same way that we have treated Nazism as such over the last 70 years. Just looking at Hitler's own written words and actions tells you that. Regardless, in the future, you'll have moved onto some other theory or cult or talking point -- possibly converted to Islam when it replaces your population and government circa 2080. I also find it highly likely that without the British Empire -- which you seem to hate -- you wouldn't be here today. Certainly, not nearly as well. No train, no clean water systems, no car, no peace in India (burning wives alive, lack of education, etc.), no worker rights, no modern democracy. If you remove the Jews while you're at it, then no Marvel Comics, no Hollywood, no modern science. Indeed, the British ended slavery and were one of the very few to do by the 20th century, let alone the 19th. Most nations still had slavery in the 20th century, and many Arab and African nations still do in the 21st century. The British Empire is mostly to credit for ending global slavery, ritual killings, and otherwise anti-Christian matters -- and British trade and capitalism has created most of the world's early wealth and well-being, as well. British Raj is a clear example. Gandhi himself literally called the British Empire the greatest and softest empire in history, and was deeply thankful for it, despite clearly supporting an independent India by this time (1947). Of course, today he'd likely be pro-British Empire against the Islamic flood entering India via the north, mostly since the 1960s (50 million in roughly 1964 vs. 200 million in 2024). Some of them are also illegals (more so, since 1971, according to government policy and report).
Ya all not listening to Darryl Cooper correctly! He stated that Churchill had multiple opportunities to end the war before it blew out to what it became! Britain were done and dusted. Germany and Russia invaded Poland so why did British only declare war on Germany? It’s a pretty good question??
My mother told me something amazing. One day a young staffer where she worked asked her if Japan attacked Pearl Harbour because we dropped atomic bombs on Japan. They also asked if Germany and Japan were on the same side in WWII. And this happened fifty years ago. Unbelievable
@@ursulajennette7988 A small college town. I remember the middle school experimenting with "open classrooms" with moving partitions. They were already having classes in inter-personal relations.
Murray is an elitist neocon war monger and Victor Hanson is still claiming he has “long covid”. These are the type of people that have no problem convincing themselves of nonsense.
@@voutolliC22 the guy is advocating for a multifront war with nuclear powers while our countries are falling apart from within. That’s not what I would consider wise.
Darryl Cooper does amazing work. The amount of effort he puts into researching a subject/issue some might say is over kill but he puts in the work. Love listening to his findings and opinions
What are Cooper's sources? What has he published? He's an obscurity who peddles inflammatory nonsense for attention. And credulous fools like Tucker and Candace Owens eagerly lap up his words.
So you are unable to go back 80 years and read the vast and detailed chronicles of the second world war? Why is your knowledge of history so frail and shallow that you depend on faceless elites or grifting podcasters to educate you?
Good job Douglas addressing the points of Coopers argument and not just claiming anti-semitism with regard to Cooper’s claims. Been seeing so many people online being hysterical about Cooper’s claims, way to be consistent by addressing the points of the matter. Well done.
Except Murray can't refute Cooper's claims because Cooper represents American history and interests and Douglas represents what Britain's history and interests were. Two totally different things.
The past couple years have really exposed who is actually the elitists and war mongering neocons. Just because a guy may be right about one thing doesn’t mean they’re right about everything.
Really rich to call Cooper ignorant when he hasn't even listened to the interview. Churchill, when he was first lord of the admiralty, baited Germany into invading Norway. Then the defense of Norway became a humiliating failure. Churchill failed upwards every time. I don't think Murray even knows that.
Darryl Cooper isn’t factually accurate in his assessments- a lot of that podcast with Tucker was about Darryl’s perspective, speculation, and feelings (astonishing so many of you missed those verbal cues). He’s not providing a new perspective based on facts, he’s going on a revisionist’s rampage and to what end, who tf knows. I expect this kind of faux intellectualism from the left, not the right. I support questioning everything, but this is a rewriting of someone’s character based on feelings and speculation. It’s like watching an adolescent rage against his parents because in his infinite preteen wisdom he’s somehow realized something about history that the adults in the room don’t know or understand. It’s very silly to side with Darryl, here.
Say you have never read a history book without saying you have never read a history book...... Have you seen the movie 300? They lost. Conservative brain rot is real.
Disappointing performance from Murray. If an argument is wrong, explain why it is wrong -- there's no need for histrionics, drama, and personal attacks.
Maybe you should read a couple of his books. Mr. Murray is far from arrogant, he has spent many, many years in war zones and is a historian in his own right.
This is chronologically correct - Britain and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. The guarantee of Poland was done with the intention of instigating war with Germany. This is why the British did not also declare war on the USSR despite Polish pleas for help.
Are you seriously saying Hitler and the Nazis were OK guys. They were the worst regime you can imagine. The Russians initially were in bed with Hitler until they realised he might not be so good for them either. It took a long time for the USA to get involved in a war that would ultimately have come to American shores. Have you any idea what the world would have been like under Nazi rule? Russia and China both killed millions of their own people for political dogma. Do you support them too?
@@JMBBrasil He still didn't listen to what was said and the context in which it was said. That makes a huge difference. Even if you are an expert. You have to know the context before having such a strong opinion
@@yalechuk6714 The interview was idiotic. The guy isn’t a historian, he’s a podcaster. He made so many ignorant mistakes and didn’t seem to even know the accurate timeline. The guy actually refused a debate with a historian, you know why? Cause he obviously knew he would lose.
@@NorthSon The bottom line is, American interests aren't British interests and WW2 as well as WW1 were not American interest wars but the British govt. and their intelligence agencies were determined to get the U.S. to fight their wars. They succeeded but they can't control the narrative forever.
Brits are a proud people and won't critique either their Crown or folk hero, Churchill. Truth is Churchill didn't want peace even when Hitler offered to negotiate it in 1940. Nazis were fighting the USSR like a heavy weight bout and didn't want the action with UK. IOW, WW2 could have been prevented but Churchill would rather use it to repair his notoriously negative reputation. So he sucked in the US to fight his war. And as the saying goes, the winners get to write the history books. But make no mistakes, Churchill was basically the original version of Dick Cheney aka neocon war-monger.
I'm Irish and was raised to hate Churchill, but your whole chronology is wrong. Britain (with its colonies) continued to fight against Germany in 1940, when Germany were in an alliance with the USSR. To seek terms would've been disastrous for Britain and for Europe. Also, it was german U boats sinking American trade ships in the Atlantic (as well as Pearl Harbour) that brought the US into war. True Churchill loved a scrap, but to blame him for the whole of WW2 is a bit much. Only someone desperate to forgive Nazi aggression could form that conclusion
9:13 don’t trust a word this man says here’s a comprehensive short summary. The Bengal Famine of 1943, which led to the deaths of an estimated 2-3 million people, was influenced by multiple factors, including colonial policies under British rule. While Winston Churchill was Prime Minister at the time and his government made decisions that worsened the situation, it’s debated how directly responsible he was for causing the famine. Several key factors contributed to the famine: 1. War-related Disruptions: During World War II, British India faced shortages due to the war effort. The Japanese occupation of Burma cut off rice imports, which Bengal relied on. Additionally, resources and grain were diverted to support the war effort, including British troops stationed in the region. 2. British Policy Decisions: The British government did not prioritize relief efforts for Bengal, and some decisions, such as hoarding grain for war stockpiles, contributed to the crisis. Churchill’s administration refused to divert food supplies from other parts of the empire to Bengal, even though relief was requested. 3. Churchill’s Attitude: Churchill’s personal views on India were controversial. He made callous remarks about Indians, reportedly saying the famine was their fault for “breeding like rabbits.” This attitude reflects a general indifference, if not active hostility, toward the suffering in Bengal. However, there is debate over the extent to which his personal views and policies directly caused or worsened the famine. In summary, while Churchill’s government made decisions that exacerbated the Bengal Famine, it was not solely caused by him. The famine was the result of a combination of factors, including war, economic mismanagement, and indifference from the British leadership, with Churchill’s role being a significant but not singular factor in the tragedy.
Yes, it is almost like when you are in the middle of a global conflict, diverting resources away from strategically important areas to strategically unimportant area is not a wise decision. And considering what the Japanese would have done if they got to India (Nanking, Unit 731, Anyone....) - A little bit of gratitude would not be remiss.
I watched the Tucker Carlson interview with that “historian”. That guy was absolutely wrong, Churchill was the greatest national leader of WW2. He wasn’t perfect of course, but I would believe Douglass Murray and Victor Davis Hansen any day of the week over pseudo-historians.
Theres a surge in rewriting Churchill as a villain by people like Tucker because if our national heroes are war time leaders, then its harder to justify Tuckers stance on pacifism
You miss the point.Churchill left Britain with nothing fighting a war he could never win.He left his country as a mere satellite of America which made Britain pay back every penny.
@@sonnyirish3678 I think he and Britain were dealt a bad hand and they played the best they could with what they had. I give the UK and Churchill credit for fighting the war as well as they could. I’m glad we’re allies.
@@UnconventionalMetal You are too generous. Britain signed the Anglo German Naval treaty 1935.Britain looked out for its own interests until it made a terrible deal with Poland by giving Poland a guarantee. Britain blundered into a war it could not win.Its record from 1939 is diabolical.When the Germans were tied up in the east the British and French hid behind the Maginot line.Once the Germans rolled into Norway they ran.Then when they moved into the low countries,the day Churchill took over, they collapsed like a pack of playing cards. They then took off for Dunkirk without telling the French or the Belgians.There attempt to cause trouble for Hitler in Balkans was another disaster.Trying to hold on to Crete after being evicted from Greece was another crushing defeat.Meanwhile their attempt to warn the Japanese off in 1941 ended up with two battleships being sunk in 20 minutes by the Japanese air force.The folly of believing itself to be a global power was crowned by the surrender of 120 000 troops to the Japanese in Singapore.The secrets of the defence of Singapore had been sent on a ship called the SS Automedon, which the Germans captured and passed on to the Japanese.Mr Churchill and Britain had no real prospects of winning the war and was therefore totally dependent on the USSR and the USA.Britain,instead of keeping out after Poland fell,ended up giving everything it had away.Some victory.
Douglas Murray is an educator. Always speaks factually and his Knowledge is incomparable. Positive comments are being deleted as soon as they are posted.
Douglas Murray is not an educator on U.S. history, interests or opinions. This isn't his country and he doesn't get to lecture us on what our American interests are based on his British imperial history and interests are.
I never met Mr Churchill: but my parents loved him , I know this because they were deeply moved by his death ! He was a great Man ,he held Britain together through a war that changed destiny's ! It's shocking and actual cheap to attack someone when they've passed away .
Douglas Murray does not represent American interests or our history. His intellect is based on his foreign country's foreign interests. He isn't American and doesn't get to tell us what our interests are.
Churchill is a complicated figure. But yet an important figure of his time. The British Empire was not doing anything abroad that the other European weren't doing.
The British did stuff noone else did just look at tipping over the chessboard in ww1. Or post ottoman partition or post WW2 eastern Europe partition. Churchill was a scumbag
He’s not complicated at all. He was born in the 1800’s into English nobility who happened to be in the ruling class of the largest empire in history. He thought and acted exactly how anybody would expect him to act and think based on his era & family position. To all of the accurate modern criticisms of his character we need to stop tip toeing around the truth, which is that we don’t care. We don’t care if he was this or that. He wasn’t complicated, he was exactly how you would expect him to be and we still don’t care. We see him as a hero who gave a nation reassurance and confidence in our darkest hour as we stood alone against a global threat. He stood, he led, he won. It’s that simple. We do not care about the flaws, we accept him warts nd all. “But do you know he said this?!!!!”. Yes, and we don’t care 😌
Churchill is a modern day George W Bush...in almost every aspect of the human souls they sacrificed for a gain of selfish ego driven gaul. I actually believe the real quote that was rewritten by our "saviors" years ago is " You die quick enough to see yourself as the hero or are remembered long enough to become the villain".
What? He was the First Lord of the Admiralty at the outset of both wars, and not even in politics at the time. He was (rightly) one of the many critics of Chamberlain's appeasement policy, but certainly wasn't in a position to start a war.
@@TerryBramow The Eastern European Zionists DEMANDED a country right there in the Middle East. If they don't like their surroundings that they created, that is their problem alone.
Churchill was right in 1936. Whether he was still right in 1940 - 41, who knows. Patrick J Buchanon wrote a fascinating book on this issue ('Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War'). WW2 cost Britain its independence, prosperity and (latterly) social cohesion. However, given where we were in the summer of 1940 and the way the Germans were treating Poles and Jews, what would it have meant to walk away? I don't much like how the world has developed, but I cannot honestly see that alternate world being any better. These are questions that deserve much more than knee jerk responses and we can never rerun the program anyway
Been calling PBD trying to talk shit about Tucker since their interview. PBD kept trying to power move Tucker, and Tucker wasn’t having any of it, out of your league PBD sketchmeister
I see so much (from the left) about criticizing someone for giving [whoever] a platform, that it's dangerous to allow them to spread their ideas. I just truly do not understand why people keep needing to be taught the same lessons, and this one isn't even a complicated. It is ignorant to write people off as "wrong" or "evil" without at least trying to understand their position. Even if you're completely certain they will never win you over, it's still important to understand why they think what they do, and how they got themselves there. Not to mention the million and one ways how "censorship for your safety" can be weaponized by governments. I'm sick of this notion from liberals today and their absolute refusal to engage with anyone on it or asses their positions ever. It's simply this presumption of "I'm better and smarter so it's different this time around". No, it isn't, in fact it's worse than ever before. The irony of liberal elitism and their ideological supremacist views would be comical if it weren't so tragic.
Conservatives are by and large not even right wing anymore. Most are disaffected liberals. Who end up using the same pejoratives and subversion that the “crazy leftists” do. We are an unwitting monoculture. That’s why our political cycles produce the same results.
The problem is, he allowed him to come on his platform and literally spew absolute historical falsehoods without any sort of pushback, Tucker was literally head over heels for this guy and the BS he was spewing
This was extraordinarily well said (From the "far right") Edit: I'm gonna log in from my other account just so I can hit like again. Ive literally never done before. This was a homerun comment)
@Lmeza-2121 did you watch the Daryll Cooper interview? First off Churchill may be the chief reason for WW2 because he was the war politician in the liberal party that paved the way for WW1 simply to save the British Naval supremacy so that they could continue having colonies all over the world. He along with a few British politicians pushed WW1 from a local conflict into a World War just to use France and the United States to destroy Germany and then starved Germany and ruined the country creating the powder keg that Hitler lit. Without Churchill and the few warmongers in WW1 the whole chain never happens
It is hilarious watching Douglas realize he is being interviewed by someone that has no clue what they are talking about about 10 min in 😂
Let's move on to another question...JEWS! I'm sure Murray was like eff me, when is this thing over with?
Reminds me of some interviews Hitch did in his day, like the one with Hannity.
Exactly, Murray knows this guy is an idiot.
I like PBD and his curiousity, but he's really miles below Douglas on intellect and has a hard time following.....
Murray with his head in his hands when pbd is talking about Lenin and "puppet masters" says it all really.
Douglas being very patient
My first impression of PBD: moron.
Second impression: hmm, maybe a few good points . . .
Final: moron.
In Australia, during the covid internment period, international travellers arriving back to Australia had mandatory hotel detention. They paid enormous amounts of $$ for that detention. When the internment requirements were lifted due to shifting covid policies, governments were left paying for contracts with hotels where there were no travellers staying for about a year after. We the people caused an uproar asking why tax payer dollars were still paying for contracts that should have had a sunset clause in them. Turns out, the politicians and spouses owned or had shares or financial interests in those hotels. I'll bet my left foot that's exactly what's happening in the UK and USA. The hotels will be owned or run by political interests and political allies. That's why they'll be housed in hotels to suck dry the teet of the tax payer in the same way that politicians create wars to fund the vested interests in the military-industrial complex.
The 4 star hotels for migrants in NYC and the Mayor in control of who gets these contracts. He and other Dems were the welcome wagon greeting the migrants at Port Authority bus terminal.
Thanks for the thread to follow.
The explosion of unasked for hotels in the United States is incredible. I live in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest and our metro area has added about 15 hotels the last 15 years or so. There is one downtown area that doesn't have a gas station within a few miles of it but somehow added 2 more hotels to the 2 it already had. It's been fairly obvious for some time that these were put in place for a reason.
Australia has WAP too and scrapped it smh
Would like to give 10 thumbs up
Some people don’t like objective truth. They like their truth .
No there is simply the truth
@@JohnnyRingo-c5vThose who win the war control what’s true.
@@HugoTheGOAT01The quote is, “History is written by the winner.”
Also, Murray is correct on this idiot talking to Tucker.
Guy doesn’t know his own head from his ass.
Same with Nazi XD
@@erenjaeger1738 two things can be real at the same time lol
This is a hard interview to listen to Douglas Murray does not want to be there and you can tell
Because the queer is wrong.
@@PrussianBlu3 he's brought and paid for by Israel.
because the man who is interviewing him is way below the intelligence level the Douglas Murray is used to engaging in
Because the Nazi larper is ignorant AF, Douglas is better than that
Dean West: Couldn't agree more. The irony is that he recommends Victor Davis Hanson's rebuttle of Cooper. But I just watched it and VDH looks and sounds like Murray in this interview, he doesn't want to be there. Hard to watch.
Douglas Murray is a great asset.
To British interests, yes. Not to American interests.
GREAT Globalist* Asset 👍🏻
A great Israeli asset.
Yes a great asset for Jews.
Government is the problem. Too big, too costly, and doesn't represent us the voter.
Yup
What's your offer then? What's "the way out"? It's so easy to criticize we all our have grievances with this beast. What's your first step as a leader???
@@reggosse3901 stfu you’re the problem,
Governments, as Ann Coulter points out, are about the voters at elections, then about their donors at all other times. The government works for the rich. People who do not understand that, are the people who do not understand why things are like they are. People don't want immigration but they get it for the sake of cheap labor for the rich, for instance.
100%I am in NZ and will never vote when both parties i suspect controlled by 1 entity (U.S).,good will overcome evil eventually ,most likely through violence judgn historicaly.
Take everything from a man and you have no control over him.
Mismatch. DM is an intellect. This is not his platform. PBD is a bro-cast.
It's also a mismatch in that neither represents an American viewpoint based on American history.
@@jmo8525 Fair.
Douglas Murray is an extremely intelligent man who speaks facts that most people can't cope with
Yeah,he supported the gulf war.Massive mistake.
he's reaffirming the mainstream consensus. nothing brave about it
Murray speaks facts from his British imperialist pov and interest. He does not get to tell Americans what our interests are based on a foreign country's history and interests. We had no reason to be in WW1 or WW2.
@@jmo8525 Exactly.The Douglas Murray fan club needs to take a look at how on big issues he is often wrong.This was the man who predicted a Ukraine victory in 2022.Now the reality has sunk in he is saying "they will have to accept the loss of land".My friend anyone with a brain could have worked out that Russia cannot be beaten by Ukraine.
@@jmo8525if you’re of that opinion then you don’t get to comment on the actions and decisions of our leaders here in Europe. The fact is that you involved yourself way too late because you eventually realised what the implications of a fallen Europe actually were
If you can't put your bias aside to accept some facts you fail at being an adult
So Hitler is better than Churchill then according for you?????
Is Hitler less evil than Churchill according to you?????
Yep. Disgusting that Tucker Carlson let that idiot on, and had no pushback.
Tucker blames the West for everything. Which is especially hilarious because he helped off a million people with his WMD lie.
Like how people can't accept churchill knew nazi were the enemy of Europe?
Story of Douglas’ life.
None of us in today's world can understand a country in "total war" where the entire population are in some sort of war industry and on the brink of starvation. We cannot comprehend it at all. Having said that.... we might find out soon, thanks to the wisdom of our leaders....
Well said
Absolutely
Churchill literally threw out a peace offering from Germans that would have saved the British empire in 1940. Instead he flushed his own people down the toilet. Do your own research on his motivations....
The point is... as this historian pointed out... that the UK did not need to be put into a "total war"!!! That was a CHOICE by Churchill and his ilk.
thanks to the idiocracy of our fake leaders*
There, fixed it for you.
Churchill is usually attacked as a colonist who preyed on darker skinned peoples, this is the first time I've ever heard someone complaining that he was being mean to Nazis.
look up the bombing of the city of dresden. He targeted civilian population centers where civilians were fleeing the Russians. what he ordered was a genocide of civilians, with zero military purpose.
For goodness sake who is pushing this narrative? Britain, Churchill, told Hitler: if you invade Poland we will go to war. On a matter of principle.
Those poor Nazis! They just wanted some living space.
And you think the two things you said are different?
Didn’t he joke about gassing POW with Stalin. Seems pretty evil to me
Im from Hull and after London it was Hull that was bombed the most. My friends dad was to young to go to war but not young enough to not help out at home. He pulled people out of bombed buildings, he helped retrieve dead people from piles of rubble, there are still bomb shelters in peoples back gardens in some parts of the city and we still have bombed buildings still standing some what. When you go to the beaches right up the east coast there are still war bunkers all the way up the coast. For me at my age it was my grandads generation that lived it, but we heard the stories we know the life they lived to survive but after that generation is gone there is no direct link to what they did and what they went through. Kids today probably havent even heard of WW2 a lot of them and thats not even a joke, there was levels of respect and decency among the people that went through all this that allowed for the world to be as free as it is today and barely anyone respects it.
This is what happens when conservatives fail to conserve anything for decades.
I'm 72. You are right, and we are living through the uncivilizing of the West.
churchill isnt a good example
"as free as it is today"
You can't cut hair in the US without a license, without permission from the state
The EU literally has TV licenses
What freedom are you referring to?
The world is less free today likely than it was decades ago.
“…Astonishing piece of ignorance.”
“Did you watch it? “
“No.”
There are books about the flat Earth that I haven't read. I'm confident in calling them astonishingly ignorant.
@@TheMakersRage But maybe you should be a little more humble about an endlessly complex conflict than you should be about a simple physical reality. Especially when the people in power benefit from lying about it.
@@secretname4190 You mean about Hitler being the good guy?😂
@@TheMakersRage I’m not astonished at how dumb this is.
Even with the claimed complexity it is painfully obvious to most people who started and kept the second world war going, it's not as complicated as you want to make it out to be@@secretname4190
Daryl Cooper is not a historian. He’s a podcaster.
The thing that people miss about this is that Churchill - like MLK Jr, Malcolm X, Gandhi etc is that they are not just people, with flaws and attitudes of their time, they are SYMBOLS. They represent something larger than themselves. For Brits Churchill is an icon of our grandparents fight against fascism and got them through terrifying and profoundly difficult times. The point of going after Churchill is not about him it’s about destroying what he represents. US. A sense of Britishness and pride in our country. They’re not after him, they’re after US - and he’s just in the way.,
Now replace the word "Churchill" with the word "Stalin" - and you'll get a tiny glimpse of how Russians felt for the last 80(!) years of the West tirelessly painting him as nothing more than a ruthless, bloodthirsty dictator.
He‘s not just in the way. He is their mediator to get their way
The guy isn't 'going after Churchill', he's trying to find the truth. The people who want to destroy you are your own government with your deranged prime minister while most of you do nothing. It seems you only fight against fascism when it's outside your country. You, as a society, have been showing no pride in this glorious, gorgeous country of yours, I'm not sure you even deserve it. I don't know what your brave grandparents would say about you now.
Churchill was a a racist
Yeah, well… sometimes the symbol isn’t as great as you think
He watched every summary of the Tucker Carlson interview he could possibly find BUT he couldn't just WATCH THE ACTUAL INTERVIEW???? WTAF
Maybe he didn't want to waste time on the bs that 'historian' talked about. I saw every minute of it, and it was painful. Why Tucker just goes along with things that are demonstrably wrong is crazy.
His statements of critique from experts and historians whose analysis was detailed and refuted wasn't sufficient? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was laughing at the gullibility and breathtaking ignorance of his host and his inability to exit his partisan echo chamber.
Pure Tribalism.
@@MrMvidz Tucker used to be an anglophile.
Speed.
@@T0mat0S0upbefore Kremlin gave more money
So many people who have an opinion on the Carlson interview and yet they haven’t even watched it. Mind boggling
I’m surprised that Murray didn’t watch the whole interview and yet still had opinions on it. He’s usually pretty thorough and sharp.
@@lpbl2004 Blinded by emotion would be my guess.
Murray is not a historian. Every point brought up in that Tucker interview was wildly incorrect. Pff the top of my head. Cyclones made Indians starve, not Churchill xD
@@dannythedeitycongrats, you sound like a British Labour voter xD
trash historian already said on Twitter that Hitler in France was better than the Paris Olympics. Save your time.
no one is above critic. only those afraid of the truth attack those who ask questions.
You're right. No one is above critique. But that includes the critics too, doesn't it? Isn't it entirely fair to debate their methods, motives, and conclusions?
Isn’t the critic a bit of a hitler supporter ?
Unless you are a Comucrat of course...
No its not fair to criticize someone FOR being critical.
Calling a man ignorant because he’s being honest is trying to shut down honest discourse and replace it with discourse that perpetually takes into account a certain narrative in order to not offend someone.
We all know who’s offended by everything and ashamed of nothing.
Tucker decided to cut the crap, we should all try it sometime, pbd is crap infused all day
Like Islam?
The pill has allowed us to prioritise fun and luxuries over having children. In my youth I thought that was good, but now I've had to come to the conclusion that the Pope was right. The pill has jeopardised the well-being of our civilisation.
Did you ever think it would help if women were actually paid to have children?
Well I don't think boys like Douglas Murray are going to be having any children
The pill was invented by a white woman to remove the black population. There's a hint. The pill was popularised by radical, hateful feminists, along with abortion, such as Simone. There's another hint. Since the 1960s, birth rate has been rapidly dropping in most Western nations. There's another hint. And there's some evidence that the pill also changes female biology negatively and messes up their natural cycles and such.
It's simple logic: if you stop having children, you have jeopardised survival itself. Simple maths tells you that. It's the most anti-human, unnatural thing in history, alongside transgenderism, abortion, actual sexism (i.e. refusal to interact with the opposite sex), child murder, A.I., anti-family, and suicide (for the most part -- you can look at such things through a Darwinian lens, but the fundamental reality does not change). Maybe there are a few other things on that list, also.
Interesting, such things are popular and pushed since the 1960s, and didn't really exist before that time.
Love how Murray holds the line here. Truth matters and the revisionist no matter what side need standing up to always.
Nah bad history needs to be corrected
Would love to see a Douglas Murray + Tucker Carlson podcast
Why? Tucker is a tomato can propagandist.
Douglas Murray is a war mongering neocon. I don't think you understand how deep the civil war on the right is.
In 4 years, Douglas Murray will be propping up democrats because they'll be the only ones advocating for the wars he wants.
Tucker would get destroyed.
Tucker would never do it because Murray is far more educated on history and would conclusively undermine key aspects of Tucker's worldview/narrative. Similarly, Tucker won't interview Ben Shapiro.
@@prometheusrex1why bother with Shapiro though? He’s shown himself as a complete shill who only attacks low hanging fruit issues. Supports more forever Wars and puts a certain country above the USA in terms of its best interest.
This guy makes lifestyle choices that creates the population problem he's pointing out, he's very patriotic.... And he's also Israel first
"I did not watch the whole thing, but what I did was I read every summary I could have of it,"
That’s enough for people that know as much as Douglas does. You can be sure of that.
With Tucker Carlson, it's about giving anyone he interviews their say and viewpoint. It's called being unbiased and letting people talk. Something you two should practice.
He glorified him as the best popular historian of our time...unbiased? . He did not question the facts. This is not an interview but a propaganda podcast of an ignorant interviewer.
😂 ok mate
wtf, that guy misrepresented historical facts with his antisemetic bs and sounded like one of Göbbel's goons. Carlson legitimized his bs conspiracy by not commenting or correcting him.
Douglas Murray's brain was melting
he still getting jew money
Also tucker said he simply was going to interview the most ‘banned’ people to discover what they had to say .... a great idea , let people listen and then debunk/decide for themselves.
The best counter to Churchill criticism, is to get someone who is indoctrinated on Churchill.. 😂 and you know he was indoctrinated when he mentioned public schools!! 😂😂
One of the few sensible and informed people in the UK who is willing to tell the truth and point out the many elephants in the room.
This is so true. If it wasn’t for Churchill we would all be screwed right now
Yeeeahhhh the west isn't screwed? London has 60percent non European population, lol....
If you are British then yes, that may be true. Not true for Americans though.
@ bullshit. Yanks benefited the most from him
Well he sure stopped foreigners invading only for foreigners to invade over the next few decades anyway.
Even back in the 1970's there was. a concerted effort to persuade children to not grow up and be parents. It must be worse now, it's diabolical.
Where do I see the rest of the Douglas Murray interview?I'm disappointed it ended before it ended!
1:27 "Things that cannot go on won't." Stein's "Law." A tautology. Phenomenal. How profound, Douglas.
What will be, will be..
But when you say it in that accent....
@@africkinamerican Mind: blown.
Bit like this interview
He doesn't want to get into it about Tucker because he knows that calling him something he shouldn't would be a bad, bad move. 😂
Tucker does snd says some really stupid things sometimes… and that interview with that Churchill hated was one of those times. SMH.
@@jaymanson3736 Meh. I haven't seen it. On the other hand, Murray has painted himself into a corner with his pro Israel stance. His support has shrunk to a small fraction of whatever it was.
@@jaymanson3736 Murray thinks that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. This happened 23 years ago; why would anyone trust this quisling on matters that occurred between 80 and 110 years ago?
FYI, because PBD doesn't fact-check b'st'rds like Murray, I will: in 1937, the UK Parliament described Germany as 'the only Bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe'. Two years later, Churchill assisted Stalin is destroying the only bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe. And here we are!
Another FYI: Yes, Germany invaded Poland in order to liberate the Germans who were being persecuted by the Poles in the German territory that had been annexed after WWI but Russia _also_ invaded Poland just a couple of weeks later. When Russia went into Poland however, they rounded up 30,000 Poles, the cream of Polish society, took them to the forest and machine-gunned them into pits. This became known as the Katyn Forest Massacre and Douglas Murray would have that episode air-brushed out of history in order to pander to his globalist masters.
Churchill was made PM in 1939 for the sole purpose of engaging in the genocide of the Germans and Murray, a great fan of the genocide currently taking place in Gaza _and_ the Holodomor 3.0 taking place in the Ukraine never saw a genocide he didn't like. He is a monster and a liar.
Patrick Bet David isn't far behind him either! Is he gay too? Is it a fan-boy thing?
You're reinforcing your own belief.
He has a lot of support and he has no problem calling out tucker if he wanted to.
@@oh_rhythm juice support. Nobody cares
The “facts” we learned as children are hard to overcome. We owe it to ourselves to challenge our beliefs. Especially on the subjects we are passionate enough about to take a stand on
Darryl Cooper's trolling has succeeded beyond his wildest fantasies.
Some of Tucker's guests are "out there," but I enjoy hearing ALL opinions, no matter how "out there" they are because it helps refine my own thoughts on the issues. Why censor someone because you disagree with them? Instead, hear them and debate them!
@@carefulconsumer8682 the problem is Tucker pushes those views as facts to a gullible audience (not accusing you of being gullible).
Tucker prefaces most discussions as "you've been lied to".
Tucker touted Cooper as one of the best and most honest historians.
@@michaelmi7903 I want to hear everyone. Let me decide, not media hacks.
misstating historical facts is not an opinion and leaving this fake historical antisemetic narrative uncommented is prrof to Carlsons moral depreavation... as if being a Putin shill wasn't enogh, now he let's literal fascists speak and doesn't even correct them when they blatently misrepresent histroical facts.
Murray is spot on.
Cut off into commercial just before aipac started 😂
Pat nearly breaking out the 'temple knights' running shit with knights of Zion argument lol
PBD is to Douglas Murray as a pigeon dropping is to an eagle
Not entirely sure how Douglas Murray lasted 2 hours with this charlatan
I think Douglas needed a Snickers bar. I've respected him for a long time, but his pompous attitude toward "PBD the Great" was a little too much.
His "pompous attitude" was partly in response to PBD's constant BOORISH rudeness and arrogant attacks, very different from previous guests. I think he was trying to COMPETE with Murray's far superior intellect and failing.
@@ZeldaZorch205Aw is widdle doggy a victim? oh that's too bad for the boy. Did he cry? Get him a cookie please and warm milk. Pat was really really mean to lil doggy? so sorry! FOH pompous boi
Douglas is not being pompous at all!! He is passionate about his country's history
and well educated on the subject of WWII. His grandparents lived in London
at the time of the Blitz.
Do you know what the blitz was in London?...
@@patriciafitch2432 The blitz? I love that song!
😂😂😂@@goatman9499
Owned by “The Focus” hated communism then strangely loved it, loved Hitler then strangely hated him, cost us the empire and led us to where we are today.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE how Douglas Murray shuts PBD down lol
Right. PBD begins to realize that he's totally out of his depth and Tucker and his "historian" buddy were completely irresponsible and wrong.
Lol DM Is just a racist bigot
Just look at Europe today. Something happened around WWII. Look who has the most power today and what they are doing to the west. Listen to speeches from AH and think.
Murray is so clear and concise and correct! So refreshing! Thanks PBD & Team 💪🏾👏🏾💪🏾👏🏾💪🏾👏🏾💪🏾
Murray represents a foreign country, its foreign history and its foreign interests. Murray does not represent American interests and our history.
There is no other side to Hitler and the Nazi’s. Churchill picked up the mess Chamberlain left.
Murray thinks that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. This happened 23 years ago; why would anyone trust this quisling on matters that occurred between 80 and 110 years ago?
FYI, because PBD doesn't fact-check b'st'rds like Murray, I will: in 1937, the UK Parliament described Germany as 'the only Bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe'. Two years later, Churchill assisted Stalin is destroying the only bulwark against the Bolshevization of Europe. And here we are!
Another FYI: Yes, Germany invaded Poland in order to liberate the Germans who were being persecuted by the Poles in the German territory that had been annexed after WWI but Russia _also_ invaded Poland just a couple of weeks later. When Russia went into Poland however, they rounded up 30,000 Poles, the cream of Polish society, took them to the forest and machine-gunned them into pits. This became known as the Katyn Forest Massacre and Douglas Murray would have that episode air-brushed out of history in order to pander to his globalist masters.
Churchill was made PM in 1939 for the sole purpose of engaging in the genocide of the Germans and Murray, a great fan of the genocide currently taking place in Gaza _and_ the Holodomor 3.0 taking place in the Ukraine never saw a genocide he didn't like. He is a monster and a liar.
Patrick Bet David isn't far behind him either! Is he gay too? Is it a fan-boy thing?
And made it worse.Churchill was in the cabinet in 1940.
There's always another side you'd think the simple fact Britain allied with fucking Stalin would be enough to show you that.
Murray: just read this "obvious positive propaganda book" on Churchill
lol Foreal. People like this guy pretend that because Churchill wasn’t in office that it doesn’t matter. He was the main opposition and his war party is the reason chamberlain declared war in the first place, due to the pressure.
He also does not acknowledge that Britain bombed Berlin before “the blitz” and also omits Germany asking for peace both after Poland and france
Is reading decent history on Churchill (or the war) too much to ask? You know, with cited evidence and acknowledgement of alternative theories?
Or maybe you’re too lazy for that so you would prefer to regurgitate the talking points of Herr Goebbels?
Churchill was not in power until May 10, 1940, the DAY Hitler invaded France. So, how did Church 'make Hitler invade France'? Which is Cooper's claim. England was MAKING MEAL DEALS with Hitler as late as early 1940. It doesn't matter to what degree Churchill actually wanted war with Nazism. England literally gave Hitler a navy in the 1930s. We let him grow, quite literally. He also invaded and stole various pieces of land in 1938. He refused to accept the terms of WWI. He created a vast standing army. He created deeply anti-Semitic laws in 1935. He refused to properly engage, on the global stage. He made a pact with Stalin. What more do you want?
Hitler was planning to invade England as early as 1939; hence, he had a list on the British leaders to arrest/murder. Just as he had a book on Polish leaders to kill since 1937, long before the invasion, and Churchill became a key voice. Explain that timeline and intention? Look into the the Gestapo's foreign intelligence. It began compiling the Sonderfahnungliste GB - the 'special search' list for Great Britain long before May 10, 1940. And Special Prosecution Book - Poland (Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen), which was a list of 61,000 Polish leaders and thinkers to kill in aiding the intended future invasion and population replacement since 1937 -- 2 years before the invasion! You might also look into Hitler's clear plan to invade and repopulate ALL OF EUROPE since the 1933, when he first came to power. This was to be the Greater Germanic Reich. He openly makes it very clear that he's the Third Reich. It's in the name. It's throughout his 1925 book. The Third Empire or Realm. The first was Holy Roman Empire. The second was the German Empire. He wanted to take the 'old' German borders back. He wanted Poland, Netherlands, Austria, Denmark, northern France, western Russia -- all of it. I quote: 'As early as the autumn of 1933, Adolf Hitler envisioned annexing such territories as Bohemia, western Poland, and Austria to Germany and the formation of satellite or puppet states without independent economies or policies of their own.' See this link, too:web.archive.org/web/20210521204954/www.obersalzberg.de/en/exhibition/zweiter-weltkrieg/occupied-europe/utopie-grossgermanisches-reich/.
And here's another thing: when did it become a bad thing to go to war with Nazism? What is your argument against this?
Do you also support Hamas by any chance? Maybe Mao or Lenin while you're at it? Let me make this crystal clear for you. Hitler, Hamas, all the Muslim terrorists in England, all the communist murderers. They should have all been assassinated instantly, and war against them is justified and the right of the state and its free people.
I have news for you: if you support Hitler/anti-British Empire during WWII, then you're a Neo-Nazi and on the 'wrong side of history' -- quite literally. The next 70 years won't remember your stance or pro-Nazism, in the same way that we have treated Nazism as such over the last 70 years. Just looking at Hitler's own written words and actions tells you that. Regardless, in the future, you'll have moved onto some other theory or cult or talking point -- possibly converted to Islam when it replaces your population and government circa 2080.
I also find it highly likely that without the British Empire -- which you seem to hate -- you wouldn't be here today. Certainly, not nearly as well. No train, no clean water systems, no car, no peace in India (burning wives alive, lack of education, etc.), no worker rights, no modern democracy. If you remove the Jews while you're at it, then no Marvel Comics, no Hollywood, no modern science. Indeed, the British ended slavery and were one of the very few to do by the 20th century, let alone the 19th. Most nations still had slavery in the 20th century, and many Arab and African nations still do in the 21st century. The British Empire is mostly to credit for ending global slavery, ritual killings, and otherwise anti-Christian matters -- and British trade and capitalism has created most of the world's early wealth and well-being, as well. British Raj is a clear example. Gandhi himself literally called the British Empire the greatest and softest empire in history, and was deeply thankful for it, despite clearly supporting an independent India by this time (1947). Of course, today he'd likely be pro-British Empire against the Islamic flood entering India via the north, mostly since the 1960s (50 million in roughly 1964 vs. 200 million in 2024). Some of them are also illegals (more so, since 1971, according to government policy and report).
Ya all not listening to Darryl Cooper correctly! He stated that Churchill had multiple opportunities to end the war before it blew out to what it became! Britain were done and dusted. Germany and Russia invaded Poland so why did British only declare war on Germany? It’s a pretty good question??
Murray is right❤
no
My mother told me something amazing. One day a young staffer where she worked asked her if Japan attacked Pearl Harbour because we dropped atomic bombs on Japan. They also asked if Germany and Japan were on the same side in WWII. And this happened fifty years ago. Unbelievable
Wow,where did that person go to school??I graduated 50 years ago,and knew all of this,it was still taught in school ..
There have always been profoundly uninformed ppl. Which is no excuse, to be clear.
@@ursulajennette7988 A small college town. I remember the middle school experimenting with "open classrooms" with moving partitions. They were already having classes in inter-personal relations.
FDR let Pearl Harbor happen after Embargoing Japan
“Astonishing Ignorance” is a very good description of Douglas Murray.
Your comment exactly describes you
As a very good description of this Douglas guy i would replace "astonishing ignorance" for pure evil.
Murray is an elitist neocon war monger and Victor Hanson is still claiming he has “long covid”. These are the type of people that have no problem convincing themselves of nonsense.
i mean he's clearly smarter than "tucker" lmao that's not even a name
@@voutolliC22 the guy is advocating for a multifront war with nuclear powers while our countries are falling apart from within. That’s not what I would consider wise.
Darryl Cooper does amazing work. The amount of effort he puts into researching a subject/issue some might say is over kill but he puts in the work. Love listening to his findings and opinions
He is a réversionist that twist everything to get his 15 MN of fame.
@@synewparadigm have you heard of him before this?
What are Cooper's sources? What has he published? He's an obscurity who peddles inflammatory nonsense for attention. And credulous fools like Tucker and Candace Owens eagerly lap up his words.
If we hadnt been lied to by these same ppl... none of thisbwould be an issue. U literally cant trust anyone anymore.
So you are unable to go back 80 years and read the vast and detailed chronicles of the second world war? Why is your knowledge of history so frail and shallow that you depend on faceless elites or grifting podcasters to educate you?
Sure you can. If it getting mainstream approval and promotion its a lie.
British immigrant living in New York complaining about other immigrants coming in......😂😂
Illegals and antagonistic ones.
Did he swim across the Rio Grande in the middle of the night..?
If Americans say something correct, and a non-American agrees with them, is he not correct?
Good job Douglas addressing the points of Coopers argument and not just claiming anti-semitism with regard to Cooper’s claims. Been seeing so many people online being hysterical about Cooper’s claims, way to be consistent by addressing the points of the matter. Well done.
Except Murray can't refute Cooper's claims because Cooper represents American history and interests and Douglas represents what Britain's history and interests were. Two totally different things.
I'm enjoying seeing open discussion on topics like this it's actually refreshing to hear different points of view without the world melting down
Now Douglas sounds like CNN trying to discredit "conspiracy theories" which later turn out to be absolutely spot on.
The past couple years have really exposed who is actually the elitists and war mongering neocons. Just because a guy may be right about one thing doesn’t mean they’re right about everything.
Really rich to call Cooper ignorant when he hasn't even listened to the interview. Churchill, when he was first lord of the admiralty, baited Germany into invading Norway. Then the defense of Norway became a humiliating failure. Churchill failed upwards every time. I don't think Murray even knows that.
Darryl Cooper isn’t factually accurate in his assessments- a lot of that podcast with Tucker was about Darryl’s perspective, speculation, and feelings (astonishing so many of you missed those verbal cues). He’s not providing a new perspective based on facts, he’s going on a revisionist’s rampage and to what end, who tf knows. I expect this kind of faux intellectualism from the left, not the right. I support questioning everything, but this is a rewriting of someone’s character based on feelings and speculation. It’s like watching an adolescent rage against his parents because in his infinite preteen wisdom he’s somehow realized something about history that the adults in the room don’t know or understand. It’s very silly to side with Darryl, here.
@@HeidiWillToWin Cope. Hitler never wanted war with Britain. Churchill wanted war with Hitler since 1933.
@@secretname4190 😂😂 Absolute revisionist garbage. “cOpE”- what a TikTok brain comment/retort.
According to my history book the good guys have always won.
How amazing is that?
Say you have never read a history book without saying you have never read a history book......
Have you seen the movie 300? They lost.
Conservative brain rot is real.
Thanks for outing yourself PBD. I hope it is reflected in future revenue.
Disappointing performance from Murray. If an argument is wrong, explain why it is wrong -- there's no need for histrionics, drama, and personal attacks.
Some times - you have to resist the temptation to educate people who clearly aren't interested in a debate
Douglas has the mindset of an arrogant British colonialist. The way he speaks with such arrogance.
He seemed very restrained given that the interview was continually manoeuvering to blame Jews for everything.
Add to that, he’s gay
Spot on
I guess you speak the butchered version of the English language
Maybe you should read a couple of his books. Mr. Murray is far from arrogant, he has spent many, many years in war zones and is a historian in his own right.
Love Tucker Carlson. He’s for free speech (unlike Zionists).
Tucker wants free speech so he can push ANTI-WEST lies and propaganda!
Why did Douglas even decide to speak with this grifter?
Why are you watching?
@@vickyCA1643 I came to watch Douglas, not the grifter. But the douche just kept interrupting.
PBD a grifter? Put the crack pipe down. You've had enough.
I love how Douglas sighs and puts his head in his hands when the nut-job conspiracies get thrown at him 😂
PBD exposing this adorable innocent guy🎉🎉🎉
thank you!!!
Britain wasn’t at war with Germany until they(Britain) decided to get involved
The greatest geopolitical mistake a country could make.
You're 100% correct Brits worship Churchill like a demi-god. They can't accept any criticism of him.
This is chronologically correct - Britain and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. The guarantee of Poland was done with the intention of instigating war with Germany. This is why the British did not also declare war on the USSR despite Polish pleas for help.
Are you seriously saying Hitler and the Nazis were OK guys. They were the worst regime you can imagine. The Russians initially were in bed with Hitler until they realised he might not be so good for them either. It took a long time for the USA to get involved in a war that would ultimately have come to American shores. Have you any idea what the world would have been like under Nazi rule? Russia and China both killed millions of their own people for political dogma. Do you support them too?
This guy didn't even listen to what was said and the context in which it was said
You don’t know Douglas do you? He knows more than most people about these issues.
@@JMBBrasil He still didn't listen to what was said and the context in which it was said. That makes a huge difference. Even if you are an expert. You have to know the context before having such a strong opinion
Condemnation prior to investigation. Well he read the bullet points..OK. Proving Darryl's point.
This historian know better than his critics. His critics are just arrogant.
Tucker is not always right about everything.
Tucker isn't right about anything to do with the middle east or geopolitics. He's decent on internal american politics. That is all.
...anything.
No one is.
He at least talks about things that aren’t in the mainstream
Nobody's perfect but he's damn close
I’ve never seen PBD so quiet.
Because PBD doesn't know enough of American history to comment.
Douglas is always brilliant and spot on
No, he isn't. He's a manipulative pseudo intellectual with extremely immature and dishonest talking points
I was so confused with that tucker interview and his point on Churchill. Churchill is considered a hero to many.
Did you watch the interview or you're repeating the nonsense flying around ?
A lot in Briatin depise him.He left the country with nothing fighting a war he could never win
@@yalechuk6714 The interview was idiotic. The guy isn’t a historian, he’s a podcaster. He made so many ignorant mistakes and didn’t seem to even know the accurate timeline.
The guy actually refused a debate with a historian, you know why? Cause he obviously knew he would lose.
@@NorthSon The bottom line is, American interests aren't British interests and WW2 as well as WW1 were not American interest wars but the British govt. and their intelligence agencies were determined to get the U.S. to fight their wars. They succeeded but they can't control the narrative forever.
@@NorthSon Plenty of historians just parrot mainstream narratives and don't actually do their job.
Brits are a proud people and won't critique either their Crown or folk hero, Churchill.
Truth is Churchill didn't want peace even when Hitler offered to negotiate it in 1940. Nazis were fighting the USSR like a heavy weight bout and didn't want the action with UK.
IOW, WW2 could have been prevented but Churchill would rather use it to repair his notoriously negative reputation. So he sucked in the US to fight his war. And as the saying goes, the winners get to write the history books.
But make no mistakes, Churchill was basically the original version of Dick Cheney aka neocon war-monger.
I'm Irish and was raised to hate Churchill, but your whole chronology is wrong. Britain (with its colonies) continued to fight against Germany in 1940, when Germany were in an alliance with the USSR. To seek terms would've been disastrous for Britain and for Europe. Also, it was german U boats sinking American trade ships in the Atlantic (as well as Pearl Harbour) that brought the US into war. True Churchill loved a scrap, but to blame him for the whole of WW2 is a bit much. Only someone desperate to forgive Nazi aggression could form that conclusion
9:13 don’t trust a word this man says here’s a comprehensive short summary.
The Bengal Famine of 1943, which led to the deaths of an estimated 2-3 million people, was influenced by multiple factors, including colonial policies under British rule. While Winston Churchill was Prime Minister at the time and his government made decisions that worsened the situation, it’s debated how directly responsible he was for causing the famine.
Several key factors contributed to the famine:
1. War-related Disruptions: During World War II, British India faced shortages due to the war effort. The Japanese occupation of Burma cut off rice imports, which Bengal relied on. Additionally, resources and grain were diverted to support the war effort, including British troops stationed in the region.
2. British Policy Decisions: The British government did not prioritize relief efforts for Bengal, and some decisions, such as hoarding grain for war stockpiles, contributed to the crisis. Churchill’s administration refused to divert food supplies from other parts of the empire to Bengal, even though relief was requested.
3. Churchill’s Attitude: Churchill’s personal views on India were controversial. He made callous remarks about Indians, reportedly saying the famine was their fault for “breeding like rabbits.” This attitude reflects a general indifference, if not active hostility, toward the suffering in Bengal. However, there is debate over the extent to which his personal views and policies directly caused or worsened the famine.
In summary, while Churchill’s government made decisions that exacerbated the Bengal Famine, it was not solely caused by him. The famine was the result of a combination of factors, including war, economic mismanagement, and indifference from the British leadership, with Churchill’s role being a significant but not singular factor in the tragedy.
Thanks chatgpt... What a disgrace you lot are
Yes, it is almost like when you are in the middle of a global conflict, diverting resources away from strategically important areas to strategically unimportant area is not a wise decision.
And considering what the Japanese would have done if they got to India (Nanking, Unit 731, Anyone....) - A little bit of gratitude would not be remiss.
Churchill had a chance for peace during the "Phoney War',but no !
Bosnia is only 1.35. We are an outlier when it comes to "Muslim nations high birth rates ".
Not really. Turkey is at 1.5 despite all the migrating. Iran is 1.6, Tunisia is 1.5. Lebanon is 1.7.
I watched the Tucker Carlson interview with that “historian”. That guy was absolutely wrong, Churchill was the greatest national leader of WW2. He wasn’t perfect of course, but I would believe Douglass Murray and Victor Davis Hansen any day of the week over pseudo-historians.
Theres a surge in rewriting Churchill as a villain by people like Tucker because if our national heroes are war time leaders, then its harder to justify Tuckers stance on pacifism
You miss the point.Churchill left Britain with nothing fighting a war he could never win.He left his country as a mere satellite of America which made Britain pay back every penny.
@@sonnyirish3678 I think he and Britain were dealt a bad hand and they played the best they could with what they had. I give the UK and Churchill credit for fighting the war as well as they could. I’m glad we’re allies.
@@UnconventionalMetal You are too generous. Britain signed the Anglo German Naval treaty 1935.Britain looked out for its own interests until it made a terrible deal with Poland by giving Poland a guarantee.
Britain blundered into a war it could not win.Its record from 1939 is diabolical.When the Germans were tied up in the east the British and French hid behind the Maginot line.Once the Germans rolled into Norway they ran.Then when they moved into the low countries,the day Churchill took over, they collapsed like a pack of playing cards.
They then took off for Dunkirk without telling the French or the Belgians.There attempt to cause trouble for Hitler in Balkans was another disaster.Trying to hold on to Crete after being evicted from Greece was another crushing defeat.Meanwhile their attempt to warn the Japanese off in 1941 ended up with two battleships being sunk in 20 minutes by the Japanese air force.The folly of believing itself to be a global power was crowned by the surrender of 120 000 troops to the Japanese in Singapore.The secrets of the defence of Singapore had been sent on a ship called the SS Automedon, which the Germans captured and passed on to the Japanese.Mr Churchill and Britain had no real prospects of winning the war and was therefore totally dependent on the USSR and the USA.Britain,instead of keeping out after Poland fell,ended up giving everything it had away.Some victory.
@@sonnyirish3678 I agree it definitely lost a lot of its territory during and after the war. It payed a high price.
Churchill critic was on point.
Douglas Murray is an educator. Always speaks factually and his Knowledge is incomparable. Positive comments are being deleted as soon as they are posted.
Douglas Murray is not an educator on U.S. history, interests or opinions. This isn't his country and he doesn't get to lecture us on what our American interests are based on his British imperial history and interests are.
I love Douglas Murray, but hes been wrong IMHO about a couple things recently.. that doesnt diminish his work.. but hes dead wrong
I never met Mr Churchill:
but my parents loved him , I know this because they were deeply moved by his
death !
He was a great Man ,he held Britain together through a war that changed destiny's !
It's shocking and actual cheap to attack someone when they've passed away .
@st4167 so he lied to the public while destroying England, gullible parents
He was the man who left Britain with nothing.
My Mentor Douglas Murray...
I hope you're British.
Doughlas Murray is the intellect of our time ...his ANALYSIS is Spot on 😅
Does that include his support for the gulf war of 2003?
@@sonnyirish3678 What is your beef with the gulf war?
Douglas Murray does not represent American interests or our history. His intellect is based on his foreign country's foreign interests. He isn't American and doesn't get to tell us what our interests are.
Dude formed opinions from bullet points?! He didn't even listen to it!
Churchill is a complicated figure. But yet an important figure of his time. The British Empire was not doing anything abroad that the other European weren't doing.
The British did stuff noone else did just look at tipping over the chessboard in ww1. Or post ottoman partition or post WW2 eastern Europe partition. Churchill was a scumbag
True and people need to be judged through the lens of their own time. However, an honest appraisal shows a war that really didn’t need to be fought.
He’s not complicated at all. He was born in the 1800’s into English nobility who happened to be in the ruling class of the largest empire in history. He thought and acted exactly how anybody would expect him to act and think based on his era & family position. To all of the accurate modern criticisms of his character we need to stop tip toeing around the truth, which is that we don’t care. We don’t care if he was this or that. He wasn’t complicated, he was exactly how you would expect him to be and we still don’t care. We see him as a hero who gave a nation reassurance and confidence in our darkest hour as we stood alone against a global threat. He stood, he led, he won. It’s that simple. We do not care about the flaws, we accept him warts nd all.
“But do you know he said this?!!!!”.
Yes, and we don’t care 😌
Churchill is a modern day George W Bush...in almost every aspect of the human souls they sacrificed for a gain of selfish ego driven gaul. I actually believe the real quote that was rewritten by our "saviors" years ago is " You die quick enough to see yourself as the hero or are remembered long enough to become the villain".
@@CB-dl1vg thank you!
You can tell that this guy thinks PBD is pretty dumb by how he reacts to some questions. He regrets being there. But everyone has a book to push.
I didn’t like him. That quote like his watch, sucked
Douglas Murray: Shabbos Goy
Pro max
Churchill was instrumental in the beginning of World War I and World War II he was a warmonger who lost them the empire
What? He was the First Lord of the Admiralty at the outset of both wars, and not even in politics at the time. He was (rightly) one of the many critics of Chamberlain's appeasement policy, but certainly wasn't in a position to start a war.
We can never understand what our Great Grandparents went through. No matter how many books we read
Israel knows what hell is with the tunnels of hell that many have been in and died in 😮
@@TerryBramow The Eastern European Zionists DEMANDED a country right there in the Middle East. If they don't like their surroundings that they created, that is their problem alone.
Churchill was right in 1936. Whether he was still right in 1940 - 41, who knows. Patrick J Buchanon wrote a fascinating book on this issue ('Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War'). WW2 cost Britain its independence, prosperity and (latterly) social cohesion. However, given where we were in the summer of 1940 and the way the Germans were treating Poles and Jews, what would it have meant to walk away? I don't much like how the world has developed, but I cannot honestly see that alternate world being any better. These are questions that deserve much more than knee jerk responses and we can never rerun the program anyway
"I didn't watch but I read all summery" - sounds like someone who will know
Been calling PBD trying to talk shit about Tucker since their interview. PBD kept trying to power move Tucker, and Tucker wasn’t having any of it, out of your league PBD sketchmeister
The mental gymnastics that Douglas Murray does to defend Churchill and the official narrative of WW2 is baffling.
I see so much (from the left) about criticizing someone for giving [whoever] a platform, that it's dangerous to allow them to spread their ideas.
I just truly do not understand why people keep needing to be taught the same lessons, and this one isn't even a complicated. It is ignorant to write people off as "wrong" or "evil" without at least trying to understand their position. Even if you're completely certain they will never win you over, it's still important to understand why they think what they do, and how they got themselves there. Not to mention the million and one ways how "censorship for your safety" can be weaponized by governments.
I'm sick of this notion from liberals today and their absolute refusal to engage with anyone on it or asses their positions ever. It's simply this presumption of "I'm better and smarter so it's different this time around". No, it isn't, in fact it's worse than ever before. The irony of liberal elitism and their ideological supremacist views would be comical if it weren't so tragic.
Conservatives are by and large not even right wing anymore. Most are disaffected liberals. Who end up using the same pejoratives and subversion that the “crazy leftists” do.
We are an unwitting monoculture. That’s why our political cycles produce the same results.
When did he say anything about censorship?
The problem is, he allowed him to come on his platform and literally spew absolute historical falsehoods without any sort of pushback, Tucker was literally head over heels for this guy and the BS he was spewing
This was extraordinarily well said
(From the "far right")
Edit: I'm gonna log in from my other account just so I can hit like again. Ive literally never done before. This was a homerun comment)
Trump thinking and antics is what lead to Nazi Germany
You're telling me a homosexual posing as a conservative wants an overly simplistic view of WW2. Shocking.
EXACTLY
ad hominem is attack is expected from a hitler sympathizer lol. Nothing in substance to say.
"overly simplistic" = saying Churchill wasn't the chief villain in ww2...
@Lmeza-2121 did you watch the Daryll Cooper interview? First off Churchill may be the chief reason for WW2 because he was the war politician in the liberal party that paved the way for WW1 simply to save the British Naval supremacy so that they could continue having colonies all over the world. He along with a few British politicians pushed WW1 from a local conflict into a World War just to use France and the United States to destroy Germany and then starved Germany and ruined the country creating the powder keg that Hitler lit. Without Churchill and the few warmongers in WW1 the whole chain never happens
Is this meant as a joke, implying conservatives are so intellectually deficient that they know reason on the basis of identity?
Js need called out at every turn. Endless lies and deceptions...
being totally ignorant of jewish history in the christian and muslim worlds makes u an expert on 'zionism'
An insightful conversation again. Thank you.