There doesn't appear to be anything to stop you from reverse-engineering the simple packaging of the ingredients and quantities if you know what you're doing. That could be a good thing or a bad thing.
The target audience for this product is for the person who doesn't have the time to learn all the skills but has money to blow. My old man's been home brewing for almost a decade and he can make some seriously kickass beer for $40-60 for 10 gallons and serve it from a two tap system. He had to make mistakes though learning the process. Maybe this gimmicky machine can bring the brewing hobby to a wider audience?
Quaaraaq I don't think it's a ripoff. They can't really sell it for any cheaper, maybe if tons of people used it, they could. Plus the target audience should be of the rich.
As an avid homebrewer, I think I'm offended by this. First, it's not going to properly ferment in a matter of "a few days". I would love to see their rationale for that claim. Second, this negates the entire purpose of homebrewing. Homebrewing is a hobby. If you don't like brewing, then go to the store and buy beer. This takes out the entire process of actually being a homebrewer. It also takes away one of the MAIN purposes of homebrewing - experimentation and personalization. Anyone who tells me they're a homebrewer and then show me they use this, I would be forced to laugh at them and mock them for all eternity.
Yeah, I thought the 'few days' claim was weird too - they didn't mention any magical tech that would speed that process up. A bit disingenuous to compare it to 'bathtub brewing' rather than the cheap plastic tub brewing kits you can find anywhere for much cheaper and which produce much more beer... That said, the machine taking care of the sterilisation rather than pissing about cleaning everything out would be nice...
Temperature is such a big factor in extracting flavor notes from the yeast. Take Belgium yeast, depending on the temperature, you can get a number of different flavors.
Gatekeeping is when someone who either knows more about a subject or is more passionate disagrees with you. At least that's the definition used by every single person that uses that word.
Yes, when heard about this machine on This Is Only a Test, I was confused which segment of the market it was trying to fill to a large extent to be sustainable. While Nespresso machines gave users no fuss *fresh* coffee, the pico pack beer is still days of waiting and only works with their pico packs.
Agreed. We fellow home brewers will laugh as this machine weeds out the "yuppie brewers" from the craft brewers/hobbyists... those of us who actually enjoy the process.
I don't brew beer but how useful would this machine be from a hardware perspective? Like if you bought the machine and hacked it into a better machine?
You mean to make it something other than a beer "brewing" machine? I don't really know what that could be (though apparently, according to the video, it can be used for sous vide - if I heard correctly).
Not at all, really to be honest. At least I can't see any way it could be a boon for home brewers. The only "machines" that could help with the process are things like "Raspberry Pis" for temp control, inventory maintenance, and other metering systems but as part of the actual direct brewing process, that's literally a matter of boiling, stirring, filling, waiting, transfer, wait, transfer, wait. Drink. In my humble opinion, anything that tries to hasten that process is detrimental to it. There's a reason we still brew the same way beer was brewed millennia ago. Sure, we may use different vessels and often times secondary ingredients and different heat sources... but the process itself remains exactly the same for a reason. I don't know if I answered your question or not. I get verbose sometimes and yet say nothing. ;)
if you do some simple home work you would find traditional home brewing (5 gallon batches) is cheaper and you can find direct recipes from thousands of global craft brewerys or make your own. the pico systems are for the people that want to say they home brew beer but just want to push a button.
I brew at home for $30 CAD (including yeast, hops, and grain) can make 5 gallons (19L) of beer, which is 4 times the amount this can make for the same cost. the total cost of my equipment is currently ~ $200. you can buy starter kits (caper, fermenter, sanitizer, airlock, auto siphon, tubing, and a extract kit for your first beer) for $80-$150 at your local brew shop
Electric valve is mainly used to cut the flow of media ,distribut and change flow direction in the pipeline .Ball is widely used in a new type of valve in the recent years,it has the following advantages : 1 Fluid resistance , the drag coefficient equal to the same length of pipe. 2 Simple structure, small size and light weight . 3 Tight , reliable. At present the sealing material are mainly PTFE, so it 's good sealing , and has also been widely used in the vacuum. 4.Easy to operate, opening and closing rapidly, It can be fully open to fully closed as long as the rotation 90 °, and easy to the remote control. 5.Easy to be maintained, simple ball valve, seals are generally active,and easy to replace demolished. 6.When the valve are fully open or fully closed, the ball & seat sealing surface are isolated from medium, it will not cause the valve sealing surface be eroded as medi
This is fascinating from a brewer testing standpoint. Depending on the variety of malts and hops available on their website, having beer to test with that quick of a turn around is a great option for a brewery to do test batches without investing in large orders of ingredients. From a home brewer standpoint, it's a nice convenient way to brew, but holy wow that's expensive! You can get quite the brewing set up for a home brewer for $800 and then a lot more ingredients for the money on the ingredients. Having a nice Kegerator and asking your local craft beer store to order you a keg (which is easy and cheap) is a cheaper, easier option in my opinion. If you want to be a "home brewer", just join a local home brew club and you can have the full experience. I feel like this has more of a place as a test batch/small batch system in a real brewery or restaurant than a home.
Look up Williams Warn beer kit - 27L carbonated brew kit temperature controlled, all brewed in 7 days for beer (9 for larger or cider), not stuck with propriety brew packs and you can do your own craft beer - SOOO much better than any store bought beer, best tasting I have ever had. Can bottle it or keg the beer too.
This is great for someone with disposable income and a huge fan of beer. As someone who only drinks socially it would be hard for me to justify this machine. Personally I find the store bought stuff adequate. Alternatively there could be a commercial variant which would allow grocery stories to craft specific beers made to order at the store. This way the average consumer could purchase their beer of choice without having to make a huge investment. Inevitably you really only end up drinking a couple of brands anyways so with this machine or a commercial variant it is hard to see a large market for this. I love the concept either way though.
What if you want to use ur own blend of hops and grains? This is just like those espresso pads, or senseo. You're stuck buying their expensive overpriced shit and you can't do fucking anything creative yourself. Might as well just buy a beer in the store then, especially if you live in Belgium like me.
As an avid homebrewer I really can't see the point in this machine. Brewing isn't difficult and doesn't have to be expensive, the beauty of brewing at home is learning the process and experimenting with techniques and flavours. People who are interested in this will see the price and just buy beer of the shelf, people who already brew will continue to brew manually. Also a beer that is "ready to drink" in a few days will be horrible, brewing is a biological and chemical processes that takes time.
I've seen these at other tech shows for years, and none of them take off. It's a decent concept, but the people that get into doing this at home don't *want* to automate the process, they want to learn/do the actual process. The people that aren't into this are going to keep buying beer at the store. So at first glance it seems like a decent idea, the reality of the situation is that it's a super niche market.
It's a Keurig for beer. It's expensive and the product being not as good as the version that took a lot more time and effort, but you get a level of super convenience that appeals to people.
That's exactly what I came here to say - a Keurig for beer. I must admit to being intrigued by the larger machines available at places like MoreBeer, but I just feel they lack "soul", not to mention being absurdly expensive. This is just a smaller and cheaper variant of them, and as many have noted, you can get the same (or better) results and larger quantities just learning to brew on your own, for a much lower starting cost. Besides, where's the fun in just pushing a button and walking away? Brew Day around here is kind of a party, with friends coming over to help out, relaxing as the kettle comes to boil, enjoying a few beers while doing the process, etc. It's not just about producing beer; it's about the hobby of designing the brew, making it happen, and nursing it along until it's truly ready - I'd seriously have a problem with drinking a beer as young as a week - that's just primary fermentation time!!
My problem with these automatic brewing machines is the only people that usually buy these are people who think they want to brew but really dont. Theyll spend a ton of money on this thing, use it once, say they brew beer and then not use it again. A huge part of brewing is doint it the tradtional way, hanging out with friends, and being proud of what youve done when its ready.
there is a nice metric equivalent to the pint it is called "half a Liter" you imperal system people should love it because it has a fraction just like your screw sizes
Might as well just brew a batch of beer. So many steps for an "easy" system. Plus you have to by their beer kits. Almost there, but still needs streamlining.
There are larger "automated" systems available that let you use your own ingredients, but they cost several grand. Brewing is easy; once you get the hang of it the process becomes quite simple. You can get all kinds of gadgets and do-dads to aid in reducing the time factor, like high BTU burners, pumps, and plate chillers (I'm a huge fan of plate chillers), but in the end anyone can do this with very minimal start-up costs. If you want to go real "old school", you can even do it with common household items you already probably have, right in your kitchen, and spend money on nothing but the ingredients.
I want to be clear about one thing - if you want to brew good beer you can't just expect a pico brew to do it for you. You'll need to learn it, and there's basically no shortcuts for beginners.
This looked really intriguing until i saw the price ($800). And that is just the entry fee, then you have to buy ingredients for basically the same price as store bought beer. Where I live (Sweden) our stores have a huge selection from all over the world, so i just can't justify buying this. Cool concept nonetheless.
the point of brewing beer is the experience of doing your own and seeing how much or less you need. this takes all the work out of it. Not really worth getting
I really wish Norm would ask one question and let the person answer. It's so frustrating listening to "So tell me about this...", "well", "...and how this does that...", "sure", "...and why it does this", "Oh, so I can talk now?"
I like that it's got some cleaning features. But you'll still have to manually clean the serving keg and hose the beer over from the fermentation keg to the serving keg, so it doesn't help much. And too bad it lacks cooling features. It's not really a complete all in one system cause finding a consistently cool place is one of the biggest problems for home brews. Just watched a video of a failed brew caused by wrong cooling temps.
It's an interesting concept, if you've the money, but I think the money would be best spent on learning brewing the 'old skool' way. I could imagine it appealing to casual or beginner brewers who might opt to move to an intermediate level at a later date.
What does he mean by this being the only way to get veer from certain breweries? Buying ingredients from the brewery? Buying a mini-keg of premade beer? Or is he saying they sell these "pico packs"? (Confused cause while he's talking they'r filming a mini keg)
While I like the idea of brewing your own batch of beer that would otherwise be hard to get I can't see big breweries giving away their recipes. Clearly there's nothing to stop a rival brewer buying a pack and copying the recipe for general sale.
At $800 plus vendor lockin on the ingredients this doesn't make a lot of sense to anyone who understands modern homebrewing techniques. You can do 5L BIAB brewing with a normal home cooktop and very little equipment outlay. It doesn't take 8 hours and doesn't involve some insane cleaning ritual. In fact you can easily do "full" 20L brews on a cooktop in 2-3 relaxed hours from mashing to fermenter if you know what you're doing. I'd also love to hear more about this magic "adaptor" that renders temps irrelevant to the fermentation process. That sounds rather unlikely.
So.. you have to pay $800 for the machine, it takes several days to brew, you have to run cleaning cycles over the whole thing, transferring contents from brewing kegs to serving kegs, and then they've got you locked into their 'picopack' system where you're spending a further $20-35 per 13 beers...? Yeah, i'm sure spending a thousand dollars on beer you have to brew yourself is totally worth it because the recipe is from another country o_0?
$20 to $35 for 13 beers is quite pricey. My favorite IPA on sale is $14 a twelve pack. I'm sure this thing makes tasty beer, but if you're trying to save money by making your own beer, this is not the way. Just make home made beer the regular way if you want to save money.
$35 for 13 homebrews is outrageous! That is not about the going rate… Go to your local homebrew shop get a starter kit you can get clone recipes all over the Internet. Cool idea but the price is exorbitant! One of the coolest things about homebrew is that you can make excellent beer for pennies on the dollar. If you're going to throw around this much money you can get anything you want at the fucking store
800 dollars for the machine! Or you can spend less than 400 (if that) for all the equipment you would need, 30 bucks on grain, hops and yeast, and youll get 5 gallons of beer while learning an awesome skill.
You can easily brew beer easily using pre packaged kits. Seriously its not hard you don't need 800$ worth of equipment to brew beer its a waste of money that I feel is aimed at people who are new to brewing and think this is the easiest best option which is not especially for a beginner in my opinion.
Fail, it uses injected CO2 instead of natural CO2 from the yeast during the main and secondary fermentation process. This will change the pH of the beer and alter the flavor. Also, this will not produce full bodied lagers since there is no lagering done. If you can cook, you can do home brewing. Assuming your locality allows for it under the law.
I think he said it takes two hours to get your beer from when you turn it on, so yeah, there's gonna be short cuts. I wouldn't want this product, but I know there are people out there who would be interested in it. Same people who go for stuff like Keurigs and Soda Streams. Techy people who like gadgets and fall for the hype. People who bandwagon on the beer trend, but don't care enough about the process to do it the traditional way. Also lots of people want to make their own beer, but when it comes to the setup and all the cleaning and everything that goes with it, they don't want any part of that. So instead, they'll take the short cut.
So, when I first saw the title of this video I thought it would be a silly gimmicky gadget, but then after watching the whole video I realized that this is actually a silly gimmicky gadget. It's like Hot Pockets or microwave frozen pizza. "I made this!" Well, no, actually someone else did. You just bought the machine, put gas in the tank and turned the key, but that doesn't make you Enzo Ferrari. :\
Not being able use your own ingredients without using their "Design your own recipe" program... who owns the rights to it? Picobrew sounds really restrictive, expensive and potentially exploitative.
$20-$35 for a kit (only available from them) that lets you make 5L of beer. So its less convenient than buying beer from the store, takes longer and costs more. I see zero benefits to this machine, you don't even get the "I made it myself" feeling because you did not... the machine did.
What's the difference between this and ordering already brewed beer? You can't use your own ingredients, takes (presumably) loads of electricity and requires maintenance... I call bull*
For $688, I could buy a great setup. And make 5 gallon batches. Plus I can get clone recipes. Good idea, too expensive. 13 pack? And you can't modify. Bullshit.
This is really close to being a cool product. They just need to produce a reusable brewing insert and not middleman-fuck their customers. I'm sure that someone will produce a 3d printed insert that will fix their anti-consumer business model.
i love how he dodges the pint question an tries to say its a 13pk... i mean who is this item even for? the beer lover who hates convenience an money? i like home brewing an this shitter is a horrible investment *remember the margarita machine from south park*
a machine that really only does one thing and will never pay for itself. this is silly. it's a never ending stream of revenue for them and a money pit for you. this is just as silly as those machines that make soda at home.
Its an $800 machine that can only use their pre packaged ingredients? That seems like a ripoff.
Quaaraaq at lease when you buy the $40 ink cartridge the printer is $20.
There doesn't appear to be anything to stop you from reverse-engineering the simple packaging of the ingredients and quantities if you know what you're doing. That could be a good thing or a bad thing.
It is. considering that for $30 I can buy all my brewing ingredients to make a 5 gallon batch with my ~$200 of equipment.
The target audience for this product is for the person who doesn't have the time to learn all the skills but has money to blow. My old man's been home brewing for almost a decade and he can make some seriously kickass beer for $40-60 for 10 gallons and serve it from a two tap system. He had to make mistakes though learning the process. Maybe this gimmicky machine can bring the brewing hobby to a wider audience?
Quaaraaq I don't think it's a ripoff. They can't really sell it for any cheaper, maybe if tons of people used it, they could. Plus the target audience should be of the rich.
Perfect for Simone's Beer Robot!
So true. At least that pours the result onto the counter and you don't have to drink it.
SilentS expense room oderizer
Norm asks great questions.
no way....
As an avid homebrewer, I think I'm offended by this.
First, it's not going to properly ferment in a matter of "a few days". I would love to see their rationale for that claim.
Second, this negates the entire purpose of homebrewing. Homebrewing is a hobby. If you don't like brewing, then go to the store and buy beer. This takes out the entire process of actually being a homebrewer. It also takes away one of the MAIN purposes of homebrewing - experimentation and personalization.
Anyone who tells me they're a homebrewer and then show me they use this, I would be forced to laugh at them and mock them for all eternity.
Yeah, I thought the 'few days' claim was weird too - they didn't mention any magical tech that would speed that process up. A bit disingenuous to compare it to 'bathtub brewing' rather than the cheap plastic tub brewing kits you can find anywhere for much cheaper and which produce much more beer... That said, the machine taking care of the sterilisation rather than pissing about cleaning everything out would be nice...
Temperature is such a big factor in extracting flavor notes from the yeast. Take Belgium yeast, depending on the temperature, you can get a number of different flavors.
Gatekeeping is when someone who either knows more about a subject or is more passionate disagrees with you. At least that's the definition used by every single person that uses that word.
daaaw poor grandpa is insulted over new technology. You need a kleenex mr grandpa?
What problem is this solving? Those who brew know how easy it is and those who don't buy it from the store...
Yes, when heard about this machine on This Is Only a Test, I was confused which segment of the market it was trying to fill to a large extent to be sustainable. While Nespresso machines gave users no fuss *fresh* coffee, the pico pack beer is still days of waiting and only works with their pico packs.
Brewing beer is a craft. It's a love. This machine is a joke. This will fail.
Agreed.
We fellow home brewers will laugh as this machine weeds out the "yuppie brewers" from the craft brewers/hobbyists... those of us who actually enjoy the process.
I don't brew beer but how useful would this machine be from a hardware perspective? Like if you bought the machine and hacked it into a better machine?
You mean to make it something other than a beer "brewing" machine?
I don't really know what that could be (though apparently, according to the video, it can be used for sous vide - if I heard correctly).
I'm just curious how useful it would be for someone who brews beer for real, like as a way to brew up small experimental batches.
Not at all, really to be honest.
At least I can't see any way it could be a boon for home brewers.
The only "machines" that could help with the process are things like "Raspberry Pis" for temp control, inventory maintenance, and other metering systems but as part of the actual direct brewing process, that's literally a matter of boiling, stirring, filling, waiting, transfer, wait, transfer, wait. Drink.
In my humble opinion, anything that tries to hasten that process is detrimental to it.
There's a reason we still brew the same way beer was brewed millennia ago. Sure, we may use different vessels and often times secondary ingredients and different heat sources... but the process itself remains exactly the same for a reason.
I don't know if I answered your question or not. I get verbose sometimes and yet say nothing. ;)
someone needs to teach that girl how to pour... every sample glass was 80% foam
if you do some simple home work you would find traditional home brewing (5 gallon batches) is cheaper and you can find direct recipes from thousands of global craft brewerys or make your own.
the pico systems are for the people that want to say they home brew beer but just want to push a button.
I brew at home for $30 CAD (including yeast, hops, and grain) can make 5 gallons (19L) of beer, which is 4 times the amount this can make for the same cost. the total cost of my equipment is currently ~ $200.
you can buy starter kits (caper, fermenter, sanitizer, airlock, auto siphon, tubing, and a extract kit for your first beer) for $80-$150 at your local brew shop
Tested I'd LOVE to supply My music for your vids :D
if it was wanted or needed
is it on ur youtube
Kuff1 wow, you really know your stuff. you must have a lot of first hand knowledge on what you're talking about.
Telic I see you in Casey neistat's videos all the time!
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2 Simple structure, small size and light weight .
3 Tight , reliable. At present the sealing material are mainly PTFE, so it 's good sealing , and has also been widely used in the vacuum.
4.Easy to operate, opening and closing rapidly, It can be fully open to fully closed as long as the rotation 90 °, and easy to the remote control.
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Who else thinks this would taste as much like real beer as K-cups taste like real coffee:)
Same here. Replaced it with a Ninja Coffee Bar for making those quick cups in the morning and a nice french press for when I have a little more time.
Yup, just a fancy coffee maker.
This is fascinating from a brewer testing standpoint. Depending on the variety of malts and hops available on their website, having beer to test with that quick of a turn around is a great option for a brewery to do test batches without investing in large orders of ingredients.
From a home brewer standpoint, it's a nice convenient way to brew, but holy wow that's expensive! You can get quite the brewing set up for a home brewer for $800 and then a lot more ingredients for the money on the ingredients. Having a nice Kegerator and asking your local craft beer store to order you a keg (which is easy and cheap) is a cheaper, easier option in my opinion. If you want to be a "home brewer", just join a local home brew club and you can have the full experience.
I feel like this has more of a place as a test batch/small batch system in a real brewery or restaurant than a home.
Look up Williams Warn beer kit - 27L carbonated brew kit temperature controlled, all brewed in 7 days for beer (9 for larger or cider), not stuck with propriety brew packs and you can do your own craft beer - SOOO much better than any store bought beer, best tasting I have ever had. Can bottle it or keg the beer too.
Or you could just get a brewing keg, use the wort provided by any beer manufacturer and make 20 liters of beer
To all those hating on this product let me remind you. YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT AS A BREWING MACHINE
it can double as a sous vide cooker.
lol,for that price i can get here way over a thousand liter beer. and dont have to wait
cool
Ikr, $800 for this piece of shit, AND it only works with their prepacked ingredients, which are expensive AF. This will fail... as it should
yeah,as long beer is cheap af,this has no future.tried to find a scenario where i would buy this,but couldnt imagine one^^
Christian Meyer you brew your own beer?
folkmarcmetal no^^ live in beer country
This is great for someone with disposable income and a huge fan of beer. As someone who only drinks socially it would be hard for me to justify this machine. Personally I find the store bought stuff adequate.
Alternatively there could be a commercial variant which would allow grocery stories to craft specific beers made to order at the store. This way the average consumer could purchase their beer of choice without having to make a huge investment.
Inevitably you really only end up drinking a couple of brands anyways so with this machine or a commercial variant it is hard to see a large market for this. I love the concept either way though.
What if you want to use ur own blend of hops and grains?
This is just like those espresso pads, or senseo.
You're stuck buying their expensive overpriced shit and you can't do fucking anything creative yourself. Might as well just buy a beer in the store then, especially if you live in Belgium like me.
"if you live in Belgium like me."
Correction: if you live anywhere in the world where the craft beer market is in any degree developed.
krokodyl1220 Belgian beers are the best along with German beers, that's why he said that.
Darkvine well if you actually listened, they have been selling another machine for years that lets you do just that
I'm going to strongly disagree with this one :)
krokodyl1220 European monks have been brewing for ages they make the original "craft beer".
As an avid homebrewer I really can't see the point in this machine. Brewing isn't difficult and doesn't have to be expensive, the beauty of brewing at home is learning the process and experimenting with techniques and flavours. People who are interested in this will see the price and just buy beer of the shelf, people who already brew will continue to brew manually. Also a beer that is "ready to drink" in a few days will be horrible, brewing is a biological and chemical processes that takes time.
I've seen these at other tech shows for years, and none of them take off. It's a decent concept, but the people that get into doing this at home don't *want* to automate the process, they want to learn/do the actual process. The people that aren't into this are going to keep buying beer at the store. So at first glance it seems like a decent idea, the reality of the situation is that it's a super niche market.
It's a Keurig for beer. It's expensive and the product being not as good as the version that took a lot more time and effort, but you get a level of super convenience that appeals to people.
That's exactly what I came here to say - a Keurig for beer. I must admit to being intrigued by the larger machines available at places like MoreBeer, but I just feel they lack "soul", not to mention being absurdly expensive. This is just a smaller and cheaper variant of them, and as many have noted, you can get the same (or better) results and larger quantities just learning to brew on your own, for a much lower starting cost. Besides, where's the fun in just pushing a button and walking away? Brew Day around here is kind of a party, with friends coming over to help out, relaxing as the kettle comes to boil, enjoying a few beers while doing the process, etc. It's not just about producing beer; it's about the hobby of designing the brew, making it happen, and nursing it along until it's truly ready - I'd seriously have a problem with drinking a beer as young as a week - that's just primary fermentation time!!
My problem with these automatic brewing machines is the only people that usually buy these are people who think they want to brew but really dont. Theyll spend a ton of money on this thing, use it once, say they brew beer and then not use it again. A huge part of brewing is doint it the tradtional way, hanging out with friends, and being proud of what youve done when its ready.
wow you should write them a letter
Totally agree. The other type of person is the one who will use it regularly then brag to everyone how they are "brewing" their own beer.
I will show this video to my neighbour as she always seems to run out of beer early in the evening.
This reminds me of the people who get fish tanks and have someone come over to change the water. Part of the hobby is doing it yourself.
there is a nice metric equivalent to the pint it is called "half a Liter" you imperal system people should love it because it has a fraction just like your screw sizes
Might as well just brew a batch of beer. So many steps for an "easy" system. Plus you have to by their beer kits. Almost there, but still needs streamlining.
There are larger "automated" systems available that let you use your own ingredients, but they cost several grand. Brewing is easy; once you get the hang of it the process becomes quite simple. You can get all kinds of gadgets and do-dads to aid in reducing the time factor, like high BTU burners, pumps, and plate chillers (I'm a huge fan of plate chillers), but in the end anyone can do this with very minimal start-up costs. If you want to go real "old school", you can even do it with common household items you already probably have, right in your kitchen, and spend money on nothing but the ingredients.
Can you run again over the pack for a second batch? Make some sort of small beer?:D
I want to be clear about one thing - if you want to brew good beer you can't just expect a pico brew to do it for you. You'll need to learn it, and there's basically no shortcuts for beginners.
I don't even like beer but this is a killer machine!
Too expensive. $35 for a 13 pack?( Of 12 oz bottles I presume). I brew all grain myself and can make a 5-6 gallon batch for $35 or less.
This looked really intriguing until i saw the price ($800).
And that is just the entry fee, then you have to buy ingredients for basically the same price as store bought beer.
Where I live (Sweden) our stores have a huge selection from all over the world, so i just can't justify buying this.
Cool concept nonetheless.
the point of brewing beer is the experience of doing your own and seeing how much or less you need. this takes all the work out of it. Not really worth getting
The taste test was so fake
Cool, DRM beer
The only good thing about this video is the free advertisement spot they gave Rogue. I do love me some Dead Guy Ale.
Agreed. Great stuff!
Kinda like a Keurig, but for beer. Neat!
this would take all the fun out of homebrewing
Where are the next videos of Peter Jackson's prop collection?
I really wish Norm would ask one question and let the person answer. It's so frustrating listening to "So tell me about this...", "well", "...and how this does that...", "sure", "...and why it does this", "Oh, so I can talk now?"
I like that it's got some cleaning features. But you'll still have to manually clean the serving keg and hose the beer over from the fermentation keg to the serving keg, so it doesn't help much.
And too bad it lacks cooling features. It's not really a complete all in one system cause finding a consistently cool place is one of the biggest problems for home brews. Just watched a video of a failed brew caused by wrong cooling temps.
did you guys should do live strem
It's an interesting concept, if you've the money, but I think the money would be best spent on learning brewing the 'old skool' way.
I could imagine it appealing to casual or beginner brewers who might opt to move to an intermediate level at a later date.
What does he mean by this being the only way to get veer from certain breweries?
Buying ingredients from the brewery? Buying a mini-keg of premade beer? Or is he saying they sell these "pico packs"?
(Confused cause while he's talking they'r filming a mini keg)
BenRangel a lot of small breweries do not ship their beers across the country. this product gives you the option to make their beer at home
Sounds great, BUT....$25-$30 for a 13 pack of beer?!?!?!? Seems very economical for the brewery that is designing them.
this here's a gun powder activated, 27 caliber, full auto, no kickback, beer-throwing mayhem man.
Question is, can I brew a hearty dark beer? A nice stout or porter?
awesome, i love to make beer 6 at a time
Dude is like "duh" "no bid deal"
While I like the idea of brewing your own batch of beer that would otherwise be hard to get I can't see big breweries giving away their recipes. Clearly there's nothing to stop a rival brewer buying a pack and copying the recipe for general sale.
At $800 plus vendor lockin on the ingredients this doesn't make a lot of sense to anyone who understands modern homebrewing techniques. You can do 5L BIAB brewing with a normal home cooktop and very little equipment outlay. It doesn't take 8 hours and doesn't involve some insane cleaning ritual. In fact you can easily do "full" 20L brews on a cooktop in 2-3 relaxed hours from mashing to fermenter if you know what you're doing. I'd also love to hear more about this magic "adaptor" that renders temps irrelevant to the fermentation process. That sounds rather unlikely.
ok then don't buy it
Okay... I obviously won't based on what I wrote. Good commenting though. Made me think.
So.. you have to pay $800 for the machine, it takes several days to brew, you have to run cleaning cycles over the whole thing, transferring contents from brewing kegs to serving kegs, and then they've got you locked into their 'picopack' system where you're spending a further $20-35 per 13 beers...? Yeah, i'm sure spending a thousand dollars on beer you have to brew yourself is totally worth it because the recipe is from another country o_0?
or you can just buy a 5 gallon carboy, some funnels, and make your own mead
$20 to $35 for 13 beers is quite pricey. My favorite IPA on sale is $14 a twelve pack. I'm sure this thing makes tasty beer, but if you're trying to save money by making your own beer, this is not the way. Just make home made beer the regular way if you want to save money.
$35 for 13 homebrews is outrageous! That is not about the going rate…
Go to your local homebrew shop get a starter kit you can get clone recipes all over the Internet. Cool idea but the price is exorbitant! One of the coolest things about homebrew is that you can make excellent beer for pennies on the dollar. If you're going to throw around this much money you can get anything you want at the fucking store
It is priceless yet you put a price on it!
so its basically a Kurig but the "K" cups are Beer ingredients?
800 dollars for the machine! Or you can spend less than 400 (if that) for all the equipment you would need, 30 bucks on grain, hops and yeast, and youll get 5 gallons of beer while learning an awesome skill.
Agreed. Existing options are much cheaper, give a better product, and let you be more hands on!
Carbonation is added?! I thought beer would be naturally carbonated that much.
I have one of these!
that amounts to about $2 for a can of beer
In the near future will it be available to brew 5 gal batches? (corney keg)
how can you only leave it for a few days to ferment? in my experience it'll taste awful unless its left to ferment for at least a few weeks.
You can easily brew beer easily using pre packaged kits. Seriously its not hard you don't need 800$ worth of equipment to brew beer its a waste of money that I feel is aimed at people who are new to brewing and think this is the easiest best option which is not especially for a beginner in my opinion.
So it's a beer Keurig?
Just brew extract. Simple but waaaaaay cheaper and far more choice as you create what you want
i do like it,and i home brew,but i ain't rich,but i do like it
Fail, it uses injected CO2 instead of natural CO2 from the yeast during the main and secondary fermentation process. This will change the pH of the beer and alter the flavor. Also, this will not produce full bodied lagers since there is no lagering done.
If you can cook, you can do home brewing. Assuming your locality allows for it under the law.
I think he said it takes two hours to get your beer from when you turn it on, so yeah, there's gonna be short cuts. I wouldn't want this product, but I know there are people out there who would be interested in it. Same people who go for stuff like Keurigs and Soda Streams. Techy people who like gadgets and fall for the hype. People who bandwagon on the beer trend, but don't care enough about the process to do it the traditional way. Also lots of people want to make their own beer, but when it comes to the setup and all the cleaning and everything that goes with it, they don't want any part of that. So instead, they'll take the short cut.
my 800$ grainfather makes a whole 5 gallon batch for about 40$
How much does the machine cost?
not at the age for drinking but when I am I'm going to make some Mead.
NinjaBare ah yes .. the age of Skyrim
jacob kudrowich thecreatures make some funny videos about brewing mead
ganymedeIV4 meh, I can wait two years.
So, when I first saw the title of this video I thought it would be a silly gimmicky gadget, but then after watching the whole video I realized that this is actually a silly gimmicky gadget. It's like Hot Pockets or microwave frozen pizza. "I made this!" Well, no, actually someone else did. You just bought the machine, put gas in the tank and turned the key, but that doesn't make you Enzo Ferrari. :\
Hmmm make a new still out of copper or buy this??
A bit like making tea then..... just takes 2 hours....... if it's unfermented is it alcoholic?
The noise reduction was extreme in this one... what was the other thing I can do with this machine? Steaks?
jmalmsten Yup, apparently it can double as a Sous Vide cooker.
I'm pretty sure 5 gallons equals 40 pints.
Look its Juicero for beer.
Still waiting on the femtobrew
Not being able use your own ingredients without using their "Design your own recipe" program... who owns the rights to it? Picobrew sounds really restrictive, expensive and potentially exploitative.
I would like something like this but the package thing is a big no-no
Nice interview but... no. If I'm going to brew, I'm going to get _gallons_ of beer, not a thirteen pack.
doesn't seem worth it unless you live somewhere where it's hard to get micro brews, I live in Portland,OR so not a issue for me.
$20-$35 for a kit (only available from them) that lets you make 5L of beer. So its less convenient than buying beer from the store, takes longer and costs more. I see zero benefits to this machine, you don't even get the "I made it myself" feeling because you did not... the machine did.
That girl in the background doesn't know how to pour beer.
What's the difference between this and ordering already brewed beer? You can't use your own ingredients, takes (presumably) loads of electricity and requires maintenance... I call bull*
I call bullshit on him fermenting beer in his bathtub.
Or, instead of a gimmicky machine, you could brew the same way people have done for generations.
"How many pints, American pints"
woooow! why does America have a different metric system? why do you not know what a liter is?
The actual home brewing community doesnt seem to like this machine a lot. Why is beer coming from such a machine worse than traditionally brewed beer?
do you have to carbonate beer? thats usually the part I hate...gives me heartburn. :)
Just open a beer and leave it open for a few hours.
$800 machine packs cost $20 dollars for 14 beers. I don't see the value in those numbers. Hard pass
For $688, I could buy a great setup. And make 5 gallon batches. Plus I can get clone recipes. Good idea, too expensive. 13 pack? And you can't modify. Bullshit.
Cool.
Did Frank buy one yet? lol
Cool idea. Let me know when it can make a lager. Pass for now.
How to order in India
u gotta get rid of that guy
This is really close to being a cool product. They just need to produce a reusable brewing insert and not middleman-fuck their customers. I'm sure that someone will produce a 3d printed insert that will fix their anti-consumer business model.
i love how he dodges the pint question an tries to say its a 13pk... i mean who is this item even for? the beer lover who hates convenience an money? i like home brewing an this shitter is a horrible investment *remember the margarita machine from south park*
a machine that really only does one thing and will never pay for itself. this is silly. it's a never ending stream of revenue for them and a money pit for you. this is just as silly as those machines that make soda at home.