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  • @webtoonofficial
    @webtoonofficial  Рік тому +6

    What power would be stronger? Join the discussion and tell us what power would win: aura manipulation or animal replication or something else entirely? 👀

  • @justsomeguywithamustache2901
    @justsomeguywithamustache2901 Рік тому +88

    Imagine if seraphina didn't help john at all, the dude would most likely take over the world in unordinary 😂😂

    • @erenyeager7693
      @erenyeager7693 Рік тому +22

      Call me crazy, but i think that's what the author had in mind at first, but because her fanbase kept attacking her to redeem john, she just had to make John good again, ever since season 2 part 2, John's been labelled as the villain for following the same rules and hierarchy that everyone follows, but in reality he's a victim just like the rest of them

    • @harrlerr3998
      @harrlerr3998 Рік тому +7

      Is unordinary still worth reading, I see that it's always in the top 3 and top 5 most popular webtoon series in the webtoon app and website, I dropped it in 2020,during the safe house arc, do the characters finally apologise to John for what they did and does John apologises to them as well, or is the violence in the school still happening

    • @partapbejai548
      @partapbejai548 Рік тому +1

      ​@@erenyeager7693that is true, I understand john has to apologise to claire and adrion in new Bostin, but it's weird that the author MADE him the villain and makes John apologise to the other bullies in unordinary, that's not how redemption and forgiveness work, no one has truly seen John's perspective, except seraphina and William, that's it, unless the author will fix this in the future, but I doubt it😂😂

    • @zanearchus5752
      @zanearchus5752 Рік тому +3

      ​@@harrlerr3998the violence is mostly gone and all of them are focusing on spectre now

    • @caseinnitrate2004
      @caseinnitrate2004 Рік тому +7

      ⁠​⁠@@harrlerr3998He’s less of a loose cannon now, and they all reconcile to an extent

  • @erenyeager7693
    @erenyeager7693 Рік тому +55

    John's ability is literally black air force energy 😂😂

  • @boredfangerrude
    @boredfangerrude Рік тому +23

    The thing is, this is a horrible matchup as John can't copy Kim's abilities and has to rely on others for abilities. While Kim would find John a tough opponent when John has abilities to copy.

  • @joelkarito7572
    @joelkarito7572 Рік тому +18

    Wait does John keep or remember all copied abilities he's seen so far?

    • @harleysellers86
      @harleysellers86 Рік тому +11

      No, i think he has about a 3 ability limit, and they wear off after a while as well

    • @sparkedfox
      @sparkedfox Рік тому +6

      From whats been seen in the Webtoon so far, it does not seem that John can keep or remember the copied abilities he's seen. However, in recent chapters, it has been hinted that John is able to remember abilities he is familiar with.(Currently though, John does not seem to know how to recreate abilities, and it only happened in a really desperate situation.)

    • @Mitsuba11
      @Mitsuba11 11 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@harleysellers86the limit is 4 abilitys and you cannot copy very complex abilitys or abilitys that you cannot see with the naked eye (such as Seraphina's abilitys)
      Sorry for the bad English, I'm using a translator.

  • @ayodeledare8724
    @ayodeledare8724 Рік тому +10

    Love this conversation. John is my boy so I side with him!

    • @JH_Unknown
      @JH_Unknown 8 місяців тому

      Mhm but only if u could copy time manipulation then John would win without a doubt

  • @bombaclattseo
    @bombaclattseo Рік тому +27

    Kim solos with little to no effort, he has a goddamn dragon in gis arsenal. Kim can destroy cities easily and in the last chapter he got a power boost as well.

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude Рік тому +1

      Arlo's shield can stop a Dragon's atrack, especially when he boosts it.

    • @iratican9814
      @iratican9814 Рік тому

      @@boredfangerrude he took a fucking artificial sun in the face

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 Рік тому +3

      ​@@boredfangerrude The last chapter power up for Kim makes the entire battle one sided by all mortal means for him.
      If you know what it is, you know why.

  • @hottacos2975
    @hottacos2975 Рік тому +7

    That's a wild one, I would assume Kim would win, though.
    Jhon is strong af but he can only copy abilities. Kim can copy the abilities of any living thing (aside from plants). The kids from Unordinary can punch through concrete, but kim fought a dragon l, demon lord, and species on par with him. Jhon is smart, but he tends to be hot-headed at times with his combat. Kim spent a whole episode undercover in order to complete his objective, he went so deep into the role that he made himself forget that was his original purpose in order to blend in better.
    Also, as long as kim eats and has reserves of flesh, he can constantly regen any limbs. Also, his ability works on people, too. If he eats people, he could probably just take their abilities and use multiple at once.
    This is me assuming these guys met at full power from each stories.
    If this is taking place in just japan and Kim has no access to stuff like dragons, manticores, or myhtical creatures, it's fair to say Jhon would destroy him

    • @stormbreak7003
      @stormbreak7003 Рік тому +3

      As an unordinary fan (I haven't read the other one)I have to say that Kim would mostly win because this whole fight depends on so many variables but if they are fighting at their best then Kim would win. Johns weaknesses is that he can only hold up to two or three powers at a time. He doesn't even keep them, they wear off after a while. Johns biggest weaknesses though is that he can only copy abilities of people nearby and that if they used their powers (if they don't use their powers then john can't copy them). So all Kim has to do is get rid of people nearby john before they use their powers or isolate john and wait for a bit or do both. Also if john was able to copy Kim's power he still lose due to the fact that John doesn't eat exotic animals

  • @TkDreamiGlo
    @TkDreamiGlo Рік тому +5

    Im surprised they stopped at dragon, like this man didn't eat Demons and Saints
    Aint no way he losing when he has more battle experience, higher intelligence, higher regeneration, more in his arsenal and willing to do anything and i mean ANYTHING to eat his fill
    This match is over after his first parasitic bite

  • @pjayscribbles
    @pjayscribbles Рік тому +12

    I'm now going to spend the rest of the day thinking about if armadillos can handle explosions, thank you webtoon. I enjoyed this greatly LMAO

  • @ThankyouDeer029
    @ThankyouDeer029 Рік тому +11

    If Kim tries to drink John while he's in water form then John can just pull an antman and expand inside of him

    • @allay5
      @allay5 10 місяців тому +1

      His stomach isn't exactly inside of him it sort of leads elsewhere and whatever is in there will probably die

  • @WildWolfFuryAMV
    @WildWolfFuryAMV Рік тому +9

    Well as much as I love John from Unordinary, he's pretty outmatched out here, can't seem to remember much but i think lizard or dragon skales were very resistant and defensive after dragon vs dragon fight, not mentioning he consumed some origin/old dragon so 2 dragons at his arsenal, and without proper availability to copy abilities on spot while Kim keeps and carries all of his abilities, this looks like John getting 200% over of a beatdown to a point where it wouldn't be a fight anymore, and maybe eat him too XD
    This was a funny video, there needs to be more like these!!!

    • @kaigunman1123
      @kaigunman1123 Рік тому +1

      Font forget the freeze dragon

    • @WildWolfFuryAMV
      @WildWolfFuryAMV Рік тому +1

      @@kaigunman1123 ah yes the ice dragon, the weakest of dragons consumed xD no jk but it really felt like complete fodder there loool

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 Рік тому

      ​@@WildWolfFuryAMV He gained a useful trait against cold abilities from them however, so there's that at least-

    • @WildWolfFuryAMV
      @WildWolfFuryAMV Рік тому +1

      @@derpyderp6719 well you're right-

    • @kaigunman1123
      @kaigunman1123 11 місяців тому +1

      @@WildWolfFuryAMV bro he could literally at any time spew out liquid nitrogen like bruh that's pretty op if you could almost instantly kill or atleast detach someone's arm but I would argue it's stronger than the Base form dragon he first consumes

  • @ryanmalik3378
    @ryanmalik3378 Рік тому +6

    John power is copy and enchant it.
    Also he have limit of abilities he can save. Also he can fight without abilities too, make him more harder since the best way to fight him is to not use any abilities.

  • @cecejamesable
    @cecejamesable Рік тому +2

    Kim would win, hands down. With his last upgrade, I'm sorry, the fight just wouldn't be fair and he'd be another snack.

  • @derpyderp6719
    @derpyderp6719 Рік тому +4

    If you've seen the end of IGSBE, you know that end game Pet Shop is just... Unreasonably OP. I won't spoil how though.

  • @EXTENDED_PIPE_MURDER
    @EXTENDED_PIPE_MURDER Рік тому +2

    0:27 is this ml an unidentified body?????

  • @xerxes396
    @xerxes396 Рік тому +6

    Pet Shop is destroying the whole unordinary universe

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 Рік тому

      I would absolutely love to see, or read an unofficial, well done series of Pet Shop cleaning house in other universes.
      Imagine him in Marvel, DC, Invincible, Dark Souls, Lord of the Rings, and so much more of mainstream media stuff?
      Maybe even manhwas, or manhuas with hunters and gates like Solo Leveling? Imagine him fighting martial arts cultivists, like Nano Machine, or Murim RPG Simulation?

  • @the-forsaken-future
    @the-forsaken-future Рік тому +1

    Me Kim got this in the bag because of him fusing with an eldritch horror evil god he should also be able to ignore time because of his request from the goddess

  • @l0sts0ul89
    @l0sts0ul89 Рік тому +4

    LMAO y'all crazy, Dr. Kim seemingly stomps and John cant conrrol Kiks Abilities.
    What if Kim gets a lick of Johns blood? Could could tha also Pet Shop is an amazing name.

    • @ThankyouDeer029
      @ThankyouDeer029 Рік тому +1

      Well why can't John control Kim's abilities?

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 Рік тому +1

      @@ThankyouDeer029 because- they're not aura based? I'm assuming Kim's powers are based on biology

    • @ThankyouDeer029
      @ThankyouDeer029 Рік тому +1

      @l0sts0ul89 true ig they are 2 very different power systems as this problem usually arises when you try to make characters from different series fight each other
      So unless they find a middle ground ima just stay neutral

  • @james_rees
    @james_rees Рік тому +1

    Pet shop and his homemade mustard gas:

  • @Yueff
    @Yueff Рік тому +6

    John currently has a 4 ability limit and can’t copy abilities unless he’s near the person while Mr. Kim can have strengthened muscles, regenerate, create multiple heads, breathe fire, breathe underwater, coat himself in slime that’s heat resistant, and at any point he could just eat John. That’s not even mentioning him tanking and quickly regenerating from an explosion that destroyed part of a city or the possibility of him calling upon G.O.D.D.E.S.S. at any time to get an eldritch horror to eat and gain the powers of. I love UnOrdinary and John but this is not a close fight, it might be a difficult one but Mr. Kim wins.

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 Рік тому

      The last part is the nail in the coffin. No mortal beats love craftian cosmic horrors.

  • @subgrv27
    @subgrv27 Рік тому +1

    This calls for a DEATH BATTLE!

  • @bobbyblair5464
    @bobbyblair5464 5 місяців тому

    AHEM. I Get Stronger the More I Eat Season 3 Episode 99. I rest my case.

  • @breeyaboi3571
    @breeyaboi3571 Рік тому +1

    JOHN JOHN JOHN JOHN!!!

    • @allay5
      @allay5 10 місяців тому

      He is losing Kim has eldritch horror type powers and even if you say he cat have that he can use his wish from G.O.D.D.E.S.S to get different powers

  • @dinoboi963
    @dinoboi963 10 місяців тому

    i think john takes this win by copying seraphina's ability and the barrier one he could also keep hitting him with a laser beam or ice anything that has a strong damage

    • @1antoinette
      @1antoinette 10 місяців тому

      I assume you haven't read IGSTMIE. The truth is, Kim with half of his powers can beat anyone in Unordinary 1v1, with his full powers he can conquer the entire Unordinary world easily

  • @CoeGr
    @CoeGr Рік тому +1

    People are arguing about who would win between John and Kim, But I think Sera stomps him.

    • @allay5
      @allay5 10 місяців тому

      How Kim has eldritch horror powers

    • @CoeGr
      @CoeGr 10 місяців тому +1

      @@allay5 Don't care, stop time.

    • @allay5
      @allay5 9 місяців тому

      @@CoeGr an eldritch horror bypasses time stop plus john can't actually do any damage to him

    • @CoeGr
      @CoeGr 9 місяців тому

      @@allay5 I'm not talking about John.

    • @allay5
      @allay5 9 місяців тому

      @@CoeGr who are you talking about

  • @elyse2339
    @elyse2339 9 місяців тому

    wait I’m not finished with that bottle yet

  • @Marichika24
    @Marichika24 Рік тому

    Well I've read neither of these, any of you guys, tell me which one's worth a read first

  • @andyalain6212
    @andyalain6212 Рік тому

    John copie les habilités "autour de lui" . Alors que l'autre s'approprie "définitivement" les caractéristiques de ceux qu'il mange.

  • @harleysellers86
    @harleysellers86 Рік тому +4

    While im more of a fan of unordinary, i also read i get stronger the more i eat, and sir kim is STOMPING john

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude Рік тому

      A properly prepared John is not going to get stomped.

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 11 місяців тому

      ​@@boredfangerrude A properly prepared John would have to find a way to leave the universe entirely to escape from a eldritch horrid fate beyond his human comprehension when we are talking about endgame Kim.

  • @systemgaming461
    @systemgaming461 Рік тому

    John

  • @sulovuu2608
    @sulovuu2608 Рік тому

    First?

  • @Aelendil
    @Aelendil Рік тому

    А вот и Джони!
    Джони крушить!

  • @joelkarito7572
    @joelkarito7572 Рік тому

    John's power is better

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 11 місяців тому

      Kim literally has access to the biology of an eldritch being of existential horror-

  • @cylarprimus9262
    @cylarprimus9262 Рік тому +1

    John has a limit of what he can copy and cannot store abilities. Mr Kim has a vast store of animals from Earth and the mythic beings from the fantasy world which include dragons, hydras, giant dinosaurs with multiple hearts, the Saintess and the former hero. Mr Kim also got the skills from the people and animals he ate. Mr Kim STOMPS John into the dirt.

  • @0TTERROCK
    @0TTERROCK Рік тому +1

    John gets fucking destroyed here immediately. Unless he copies some friends’ abilities beforehand he’ll just get deleted. Kim can perfectly replicate and harmonize the body parts of ridiculously powerful creatures meanwhile john is doing all he can with 3 abilities. He’d need one ability to either be arlo’s or a type of body reinforcement because he’d get squished instantly otherwise. Seraphina’s and blyke’s ability would also probably be of use to him. If he went up against kim with all that…he still loses.

  • @SpiritOfSpite
    @SpiritOfSpite Рік тому +1

    John with marksman+laser+teleport makes him pretty much unbeatable: marksman let's him stay locked on even if he's nowhere near the target and let's him find and aim for specific weak points, teleport is in fact not limited to eyesight John can teleport to any location he's been before and then laser just does a lot of damage (Blyke's laser can go through steel and Johns version Is much stronger) but when paired with marksman can change direction mid-air making it impossible to dodge.
    So here's how the "fight" would go, John locks on to Kim, John then immediately teleports away into one of the many secret locations he's been to before and then starts raining down intercontinental death laser at any and all of Kim's weak points, either killing him immediately because he doesn't know the fight even started or forcing him to stay in slime form but then the moment he tries any other form except slime he'll die instantly.

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 11 місяців тому

      With Kim's last power up, here's the updated version of how the fight would go: Kim activates his love craftian eldritch horror consumption abilities the moment he realizes a fight is going on. John is left with no chance of escape from a fate beyond his human comprehension.

  • @xerxes396
    @xerxes396 Рік тому +3

    If you read both series you would know john cant even damage pet shop in the first place its not even a close fight

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude Рік тому

      Actually, he can. He has copied seriously powerful abilities

    • @allay5
      @allay5 10 місяців тому

      ​@@boredfangerrude so has Kim he has slain a dragon it doesn't matter if John has lasers Kim dragon scales and eldritch powers

  • @zedric116
    @zedric116 Рік тому +1

    I love both these characters so I can say with confidence that Kim wins this one

  • @theultrasceptile
    @theultrasceptile Рік тому +1

    Aura manipulation obviously

    • @zittered
      @zittered 4 місяці тому

      Read last few chapters of IGSTMIE and think again

  • @caseinnitrate2004
    @caseinnitrate2004 Рік тому

    John claps ez

  • @blueblazinglegend996
    @blueblazinglegend996 Рік тому +1

    John slaughters 🥱

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 11 місяців тому

      John gets slaughtered _🥴_

    • @blueblazinglegend996
      @blueblazinglegend996 11 місяців тому

      @@derpyderp6719 naw he's slaughtering 🥱

    • @derpyderp6719
      @derpyderp6719 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@blueblazinglegend996 Kim has love craftian eldritch powers beyond human comprehension.
      Kim slaughters _☝🤓_

    • @allay5
      @allay5 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@blueblazinglegend996you are objectively wrong have you even read I get stronger the more I eat

  • @atharvac13
    @atharvac13 Рік тому +3

    I want a more shy chef, he cooks really good shy food.🫴✨🍝