Concrete Shell vs Tungsten Carbide Armor | April Fool's Day special

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  • Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
  • There were some likes for this idea under the previous video, so...
    1600 m/s Concrete 8.8cm Pzgr 39 Shell
    vs
    40mm Tungsten Carbide Armor
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 198

  • @enriqueouro9
    @enriqueouro9 2 місяці тому +1173

    I guess tungsten carbide is just a portal to a different dimension.

    • @richardbossman9875
      @richardbossman9875 2 місяці тому

      Yup, just fire yourself at a slab of it @ 1600 mps and you too can be somewhere else.

    • @dark_fallxvi141
      @dark_fallxvi141 Місяць тому +1

      that what i think

    • @hotu4102
      @hotu4102 Місяць тому +6

      Warthunder physics

    • @dedonkers
      @dedonkers Місяць тому +4

      ​@@hotu4102must've hit a part made of stalinium

  • @soup-not-edible
    @soup-not-edible 2 місяці тому +898

    Ah yes, my favourite reactive armor technology : vaporization

    • @Yaivenov
      @Yaivenov 2 місяці тому +12

      Aka the Whipple Shield for space craft. 😂

    • @j4gerb0mblitz
      @j4gerb0mblitz 2 місяці тому +7

      I mean the concrete would probably just turn to dust

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 2 місяці тому +5

      Now that's an interesting one! Would it be vaporisation? Or would it be _pulverisation_ instead? Concrete is a mix of various oxides and silicates, so would it actually have a vapor phase? It may even cause some plasma to form maybe?

    • @Yaivenov
      @Yaivenov 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Hydrazine1000 At orbital speeds? Vaporization for sure. Things get warm when you party at 20+ km/s

    • @Hydrazine1000
      @Hydrazine1000 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Yaivenov Uhhh, the video said 1600m/s, am I missing something?

  • @owmylehg7811
    @owmylehg7811 2 місяці тому +707

    My shots whenever I'm playing warthunder:

    • @connivingkhajiit
      @connivingkhajiit 2 місяці тому +24

      seems every other patch they say they fix it but it keeps happening

    • @LordOfChaos.x
      @LordOfChaos.x 2 місяці тому +3

      Lately it happens a lot
      ​@@connivingkhajiit

    • @gian.4388
      @gian.4388 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@connivingkhajiitthis has been happening ever since they introduced volumetric shells, it's not gonna get fixed until they eat their own words and actually implement volumetric armor or go back to not having volumetric shells at all
      They're going to do neither, one would take too much to implement, the other would mean going back to pre-2020 pen physics, which for them would mean they'd have to do even bigger rebalancing of everything from BRs to economy etc. and they probably can't be bothered to do that, because why do that when players are content playing with this broken system and sometimes even defend it fervently

    • @InternetStudiesGuy
      @InternetStudiesGuy 2 місяці тому +4

      Only when going against soviets

    • @tirushone6446
      @tirushone6446 2 місяці тому +3

      apds when it hits spaced amour:

  • @AlreadyTakenTag
    @AlreadyTakenTag 2 місяці тому +489

    The shell seemingly entered the back rooms.

  • @hinz1
    @hinz1 2 місяці тому +311

    Ghost shell, disappears into nothing
    Perfect for ghost tanks.

  • @WasyaSsss
    @WasyaSsss 2 місяці тому +236

    Imagine how it would look in real life. Shell just turns into dust on impact

    • @dejmianxyzsimulations4174
      @dejmianxyzsimulations4174  2 місяці тому +118

      When I sometimes show a clip with this "dust", it pixels the clip

    • @zakzwijn8410
      @zakzwijn8410 2 місяці тому +19

      @@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 I was looking for this answer, I thought i'd turn into dust but was wondering why you hadn't rendered it :)

    • @pyrenees2695
      @pyrenees2695 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174Can you post the video but unlisted with a link to it in this video's description ?

    • @francois__
      @francois__ Місяць тому

      @@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 You can try upscaling the clip to twice the resolution (4K), UA-cam will give more bandwidth to it and there will be less pixelation.

    • @francois__
      @francois__ Місяць тому

      @@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 You could upsample the clip to 4K before uploading, UA-cam will give it more bandwidth and it will pixelate less.

  • @sensor3dd
    @sensor3dd 2 місяці тому +46

    This isn't an april fools prank. This is a simulation of ghost shells in war thunder

  • @fernandomarques5166
    @fernandomarques5166 2 місяці тому +87

    "So stalinium is just tungsten carbide?"
    "Always has been comrade."

    • @lucasxbai6159
      @lucasxbai6159 2 місяці тому

      Kinda cringe tbh

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 2 місяці тому +1

      Why people don't make such jokes about Hitler? It's 100% the same thing.

    • @bloodking73
      @bloodking73 2 місяці тому +12

      ​@@HanSolo__it's a russian bias meme

    • @anarchotic6520
      @anarchotic6520 2 місяці тому +8

      Bruh what are the other two yapping about💀 ain't no way they taking this seriously

    • @maxbennett5412
      @maxbennett5412 2 місяці тому

      @@HanSolo__ Probably in part because hitlerinium doesn't have the same ring to it and people like him a whole lot less unless they are insane.

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc4084 2 місяці тому +162

    Fracturing like a panthers welds

    • @j.f.fisher5318
      @j.f.fisher5318 2 місяці тому +6

      I figured it would break worse than that.

    • @owensthilaire8189
      @owensthilaire8189 2 місяці тому +10

      I think you meant Soviet welds...

    • @sillylittleowlguy2392
      @sillylittleowlguy2392 2 місяці тому

      why not both@@owensthilaire8189

    • @zander7780
      @zander7780 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@owensthilaire8189 in that case it would have had to disintegrate itself

  • @BOEING--mh6xm
    @BOEING--mh6xm 2 місяці тому +62

    The shell vanished quicker than my dad

  • @resurgam_b7
    @resurgam_b7 2 місяці тому +9

    As far as April Fool's topics go, this is actually pretty interesting, I would have figured that the tungsten carbide plate would shatter completely just from the momentum of the concrete, even though the shell would be disintegrated as well.

  • @clpfox470
    @clpfox470 2 місяці тому +32

    We are going back to the days of throwing rocks at one another

    • @TheNikoNik
      @TheNikoNik Місяць тому +1

      Always have been, ever faster, to the point we throw hypersonic rocks now

  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 2 місяці тому +39

    When your so broke you have to start going back to Medieval style of ammunition

    • @trevorwhitham6742
      @trevorwhitham6742 2 місяці тому +1

      We went back to using darts 😭

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 2 місяці тому

      @@trevorwhitham6742 Nah, we gone back to ancient times using Javelins and Ballista Bolts.

  • @JPduclerc
    @JPduclerc 2 місяці тому +9

    Most cursed simulation yet.

  • @flaviog.7628
    @flaviog.7628 2 місяці тому +18

    The shell would probably disintegrate inside the barrel lol

    • @dejmianxyzsimulations4174
      @dejmianxyzsimulations4174  2 місяці тому +22

      it would definitely fall apart

    • @kirotheavenger60
      @kirotheavenger60 2 місяці тому +1

      I doubt it, I believe concrete is used in 'HESH' training ammunition.
      And has actually been used in combat, as a "low collateral" type of munition for engages around civilians.

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 2 місяці тому +11

      @@kirotheavenger60
      The concrete used in testing has a container to hold it together.
      In this case, the concrete has no housing.

    • @Radi8e
      @Radi8e 2 місяці тому

      Like a shitty canister shot

  • @user-nk4sp9jg6k
    @user-nk4sp9jg6k 2 місяці тому +11

    Stalinium?

  • @chost-059
    @chost-059 2 місяці тому +11

    warthunder post volymetric shell update:

  • @ratvaporizer1
    @ratvaporizer1 2 місяці тому +18

    Fucking DEVOURED that shell. Can you simulate the Breda 501 90mm cannon vs sherman UFP next? Granata Perforante mod.43 coming from the 90/53 mod.41

  • @Priehten
    @Priehten 2 місяці тому +5

    It somehow reminded me of Clarkson with a shotgun, using it to remove weeds. "It ceased to exist"

  • @dominuslogik484
    @dominuslogik484 2 місяці тому +6

    on another note I now feel like a solid concrete shell would probably work like an extra cheap HE shell when hitting hard targets because I would not want to be anywhere near a tank that just got hit by a supersonic rock.

  • @rebelboi88
    @rebelboi88 2 місяці тому +2

    "Mmm, yummy." - That armor plate

  • @vsyokhoroshoy
    @vsyokhoroshoy 2 місяці тому +2

    The guy in the backroom seeing solid AP flies by:

  • @Einheit101
    @Einheit101 2 місяці тому +4

    Thats what the Panther Mantlet does thanks to volumetric

  • @pennycarvalho1223
    @pennycarvalho1223 2 місяці тому +4

    War thunder shells be like: oh no we hit smth we can’t pen, guess the shell just vanishes.

  • @cybernetic_crocodile8462
    @cybernetic_crocodile8462 2 місяці тому +8

    Wow, concrete sucks as the projectile material. And tungsten carbide isn't good choice for armour either, considering it nearly cracked because of that impact.

  • @neurofiedyamato8763
    @neurofiedyamato8763 2 місяці тому +11

    Lmao looks like it went in a portal .vaporized, just gone

  • @Deltarious
    @Deltarious 2 місяці тому +5

    It's actually extremely interesting how the cracks form on the back side of the plate. I have some (a very limited) understanding of how this kind of stress is translated through the plate, but is there a way to visualise it in this software?

    • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
      @DUKE_of_RAMBLE 2 місяці тому +3

      Makes sense (to me) for the crack to form on the back side, since that metal is traveling further. Just, the tungsten doesn't want to stretch, and therefore cracks instead. Whereas on the front, that metal is being compressed, not because of the impact but because of the metal bending.
      When the armor *_||_* is impacted it bends *_))_*
      This side compresses -> *_))_*

    • @tylerromero
      @tylerromero Місяць тому +2

      @duke impressive use of punctuation 😂

  • @a.s2156
    @a.s2156 2 місяці тому +9

    Damn it almost did nothing

  • @crispy_338
    @crispy_338 2 місяці тому +19

    Tungsten carbide is super brittle. Surprised it didn’t crack more

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 2 місяці тому +3

      Looking at how the cracks spread in the side view I really doubt that plate could take a second round anywhere close to the first impact location without suffering a complete failure of the plate.

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 2 місяці тому +1

      It cracks but is nowhere near brittle, let alone "super brittle."
      You use it in a hammer drill. The drill part is only a suggestion because the job is hammered, while rotation only changes the hammer position and removes concrete spoil a bit. So you just called hard-core hammer drill tip a "super brittle".

    • @crispy_338
      @crispy_338 2 місяці тому +5

      @@HanSolo__ Tungsten carbide is a ceramic. It’s brittle. Whatever you’re using must be an alloy combined with TC. If we drop our TC mill ends were required to throw them away because they may have microfractures

    • @Warriorcat49
      @Warriorcat49 2 місяці тому +5

      @@HanSolo__
      In comparison to RHA, let alone cast steels? Yeah, any ceramic is "super brittle". Tungsten carbide is decently strong for a ceramic, but its hardness is through the roof (kinda the point, innit?) and it has a tensile strength ~1/4th that of RHA. That's brittle.

    • @HanSolo__
      @HanSolo__ 2 місяці тому

      @@Warriorcat49 "Tungsten carbide is decently strong for a ceramic" It's not ceramic. It's a powder alloy made of tungsten, cobalt, nickel, vanadium, etc.
      This brittle thing you are talking about can be a stellite. An alloy as well.
      "That's brittle." That's not brittle. Glass is brittle. Because glass or concert is brittle you need to make your APFSDS dart of TC or tool steel (-ish alloy).

  • @heatherblankenship7958
    @heatherblankenship7958 2 місяці тому +1

    Keep up the awesome work! I know a lot of effort goes into this, and I really enjoy seeing how projectiles behave against given armors!

  • @BlackLight1478
    @BlackLight1478 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for april fool's disclaimer :D

  • @Wolfy8668
    @Wolfy8668 2 місяці тому +2

    Armor: waiter! More concrete shells please!

  • @bertschi7
    @bertschi7 2 місяці тому +3

    Me: "Wow i have 150mm of pen, T-34s are easy kills.
    The T-34 drivers hatch:

  • @me-fp6bf
    @me-fp6bf 2 місяці тому +8

    revolutionary technology!

  • @LeroxYT
    @LeroxYT 2 місяці тому +4

    Me when i hit the soviet side skirts

  • @VadimCC
    @VadimCC 2 місяці тому +2

    Wow, you actually made it! Kudos to you!

  • @BOEING--mh6xm
    @BOEING--mh6xm 2 місяці тому +4

    Bro said
    🫥👨‍🦰✌️🪦

  • @DecidedlyNinja
    @DecidedlyNinja 2 місяці тому +2

    [looks at the outside] It just needs repainting!
    [looks at the inside] Nevermind...

  • @LordAlacorn
    @LordAlacorn 2 місяці тому +2

    Condensed Stalinum is what it is.

  • @megan00b8
    @megan00b8 Місяць тому +1

    You've heard that jet fuel can melt steel beams, now watch tungsten evaporate concrete shells

  • @obamaspiegel4688
    @obamaspiegel4688 2 місяці тому +3

    Coughing bomb vs hydrogen baby

  • @heroeacemoon1672
    @heroeacemoon1672 2 місяці тому +2

    Fucking war thunder logic I’m looking at and I’m foaming at the mouth

  • @tiger_senpai4611
    @tiger_senpai4611 2 місяці тому +3

    so this is how ghostshell happens.. interesting.

  • @scernefhaal
    @scernefhaal 2 місяці тому +2

    Concrete shells have a tendency to noclip i guess

  • @serahshevelan3263
    @serahshevelan3263 Місяць тому +1

    Gotta love those ghost shells from the laggy netcode 😅

  • @fantastikboom1094
    @fantastikboom1094 2 місяці тому +3

    Would be interesting to see more of these not in April too

  • @heatherblankenship7958
    @heatherblankenship7958 2 місяці тому +2

    We didn't even scratch them!

  • @user-wm4eb8ne6o
    @user-wm4eb8ne6o 2 місяці тому +4

    in Germany in WW2 there were so-called concrete air defense towers, of two types
    1 type - like huge knightly castles with thick walls
    Type 2 - like a sharp bullet aimed at the sky, 15-30 meters high. it was impossible to hit it, since an air bomb falling from above ricocheted off it.
    Is it possible to make a concrete shelter for 1-2 people in the shape of a traffic cone from concrete, and what will be its dimensions and wall thickness, if
    1. 60-80 mm mines
    2. 120 mm mines
    3. 155 mm OFS projectile
    в германии во 2МВ были так называемые бетонные башни ПВО, двух типов
    1 тип-как огромные рыцарские замки с толстыми стенами
    2 тип-как острая пуля направленная в небо, высотой 15-30 метров. в нее невозможно было попасть, так как авиа бомба, падающая сверху, рикошетировала от неё.
    можно ли сделать бетоное укрытие для 1-2 человек в форме дорожного конуса из бетона, и каковы будут его габариты и толщина стен, в случае
    1. 60-80 мм мины
    2. 120 мм мины
    3. 155 мм офс снаряда

    • @azurebookllet9216
      @azurebookllet9216 2 місяці тому +1

      Logically, most of that shelter is going to be dug in. The person would effectively be standing in a smaller equivalent of a chest-high trench, and the cone part is going to be barely large enough to cover their shoulders and head, and to have enough underground foundation to remain stable.

    • @user-wm4eb8ne6o
      @user-wm4eb8ne6o 2 місяці тому +1

      @@azurebookllet9216 optional, such cones can be placed in enterprises or city areas (bus stops), where there is no place to dig, and for the front line they can be used as a mortar position
      opened the top cap and shot back
      closed - and even if the enemy sees your position from drones, it is very difficult to destroy, and he does not know which of the five adjacent cones to shoot at
      they can be deceptive (empty, false) positions to distract attention, or work on the principle of emptiness - 6 cones in different places, at a distance of 100-1000 meters, served by one mortar crew
      необязательно, такие конусы могут быть расставлены на предприятиях или территории города (остановки автобуса), где нет мест копать, а для передовой линии использовать как позицию миномета
      открыл верхий колпачок,-отстрелялся
      закрыл-и даже если противик с дронов видит твою позицию, то уничтожить очень сложно., и он не знает в какой из пяти рядом стоящих конусов стрелять
      они могут быть обманными(пустыми, ложными ) позициями, для отвлечения внимаия, или работать по принципу пустоты-6 конусов в разных местах ,на расстоянии 100-1000 метров, обслуживаются одним минометным расчетом

  • @mtnkid9140
    @mtnkid9140 2 місяці тому +3

    War Thunder ghost shells be like:

  • @AGWittmann
    @AGWittmann 2 місяці тому +4

    Is it possible to weaken the effect of the reactive armor by coating the tungstenalloy penetrator with ductile metal?

    • @dejmianxyzsimulations4174
      @dejmianxyzsimulations4174  2 місяці тому +1

      It depends, generally ERA bends and destabilizes the rod, and then no jacket will help. A jacket could help when the rod breaks and separates..

  • @elongated_musket6353
    @elongated_musket6353 2 місяці тому +2

    Sorry, the tungsten was pretty hungry

  • @jintsuubest9331
    @jintsuubest9331 2 місяці тому +1

    The pings, blame the pings.

  • @rav3727
    @rav3727 2 місяці тому +1

    Reasons why the T-44 was the best WW2 medium tank design

  • @ChainsawChuck13
    @ChainsawChuck13 Місяць тому

    Based on the complete no sell as seen from the front, I was honestly surprised to see it crack like that

  • @iommi1337
    @iommi1337 2 місяці тому +3

    Any concrete structures must have rebar innit

  • @nijivl
    @nijivl 2 місяці тому +2

    War thunder ghost shell:

  • @localdrugseller6431
    @localdrugseller6431 2 місяці тому +2

    Very strong but very brittle. A second shot to same plate would shatter it.

  • @lewiskellett5654
    @lewiskellett5654 2 місяці тому +1

    POV: solid shot in warthunder

  • @_aleda_
    @_aleda_ 2 місяці тому +2

    Wha happened to the shell, it just disappeared, where did it go.

  • @MM-zg4wu
    @MM-zg4wu 2 місяці тому +2

    In first moments I thought what bullet warp to inside 😂

  • @panzerkampfwagenvausfa5381
    @panzerkampfwagenvausfa5381 2 місяці тому +1

    Could you do the Alicorn's railcannon (Ace Combat 7 Super Submarine) against the frontal plate of the Maus or Object 279?

  • @tonkmann
    @tonkmann Місяць тому +1

    "Shell Shattered"

  • @wangl601
    @wangl601 2 місяці тому +1

    April 1st is a good day, no problem.
    But if its tunsten carbide, it may break due to brittleness.

  • @Hangry_Hungarian
    @Hangry_Hungarian 2 місяці тому +5

    The 88 concrete round is no match against the strong Stalinuim armor!

  • @viciousslayer
    @viciousslayer 2 місяці тому +1

    sheesh those cracks are gruesome

  • @itsmrlonewolf
    @itsmrlonewolf Місяць тому

    Sees crack, Lloyd Christmas be like “Sooo you’re telling me there’s a chance…. YEAH!!!”

  • @user-lc3nm2kf1v
    @user-lc3nm2kf1v 2 місяці тому +2

    The most War Thunder moment 🤣🤣

  • @claudiovic9883
    @claudiovic9883 2 місяці тому +1

    theres a math to determine the velocity of 1600m/s specifically?

  • @iamcoolok-ml9kh
    @iamcoolok-ml9kh 2 місяці тому +1

    the armor turned into a rift from fortnite

  • @GerardMenvussa
    @GerardMenvussa 2 місяці тому +2

    Any concrete evidence to back your claims?

  • @hugossg7908
    @hugossg7908 Місяць тому

    Shell the inmediate second it contacts the plate: guess I'll dissapear

  • @nicholascazmay2126
    @nicholascazmay2126 2 місяці тому +1

    Tungsten carbide go omnomnomnomnom.

  • @worsevideomakerr
    @worsevideomakerr 2 місяці тому +1

    hey XYZ! i have watched your channel for a while now, what software do you use? or are there any similar games?

    • @dejmianxyzsimulations4174
      @dejmianxyzsimulations4174  2 місяці тому

      Ansys
      This is engineering software

    • @worsevideomakerr
      @worsevideomakerr 2 місяці тому

      @@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 thanks!

    • @utkutoprak2830
      @utkutoprak2830 2 місяці тому

      @@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 hi! have a nice day. Is it possible for you to make an tutorial video? I want to analyze 7.62 bullets. How can I do an analysis like yours?

  • @dmitryfedorov114
    @dmitryfedorov114 2 місяці тому +1

    What was really the shell's material?

  • @camojoe83
    @camojoe83 Місяць тому

    EFP from an off route mine vs whatever cold war era tank you want?

  • @robertdefoe2396
    @robertdefoe2396 2 місяці тому +1

    Damn I want this in Warthunder

  • @tomyorke3412
    @tomyorke3412 2 місяці тому +1

    Turns itself into powder haha.

  • @ShokkuKyushu
    @ShokkuKyushu Місяць тому

    is it possible to simulate a 1.88 MN load on top of an Hetzer casemate ?

  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 2 місяці тому +1

    Anti-concrete shell VS concrete shell.

  • @dawidkalka25
    @dawidkalka25 2 місяці тому +1

    Prima aprilis?

  • @30fpsgaming72
    @30fpsgaming72 Місяць тому

    Hmm yes self regenerating antimatter armor

  • @MR0KITTY
    @MR0KITTY 2 місяці тому +1

    It seems the shoe is on the other foot.

  • @Meetvursti160
    @Meetvursti160 Місяць тому

    hi, how do you make these animations?

  • @thickboi7570
    @thickboi7570 2 місяці тому +1

    T34 driver hatch bouncing a long 88:

  • @pjotrnygard1447
    @pjotrnygard1447 Місяць тому

    Can you do 2A83 152 mm apfsds vs Leo 2a7 or m1a2

  • @TremblingKiwi
    @TremblingKiwi 2 місяці тому +2

    Tadaaaaam! It disappeared!©

  • @THEGRAYFOXX00
    @THEGRAYFOXX00 2 місяці тому +1

    ah yes stalinium...strongest alloy in shit thunder

  • @stepannovak93
    @stepannovak93 2 місяці тому +2

    bro just screw up simulation values and made april fools video out of it XD

  • @kylestoddard2881
    @kylestoddard2881 2 місяці тому +2

    Why would you make a shell out of concrete?

  • @wixte
    @wixte 2 місяці тому +1

    would this just be a CSH? (concrete squash head)

  • @whywouldyouhitme
    @whywouldyouhitme 2 місяці тому +1

    T 34 driver hatch be like

  • @brunus0159
    @brunus0159 Місяць тому

    Add a softer metal inner layer and boom, invincible tank

  • @user-ty8vn5kx3g
    @user-ty8vn5kx3g Місяць тому

    This is soviet John Wick

  • @Silly_boy30
    @Silly_boy30 2 місяці тому

    Brl the bullet disapeared like my dad

  • @jackmclane1826
    @jackmclane1826 Місяць тому

    Tunneling shells... reappearing behind the tank

  • @kindlytoxic1472
    @kindlytoxic1472 19 днів тому

    put rebar to reinforce to concrete, i wonder how good the impact strength will be

  • @eltxbox2496
    @eltxbox2496 2 місяці тому

    Sent to the shadow realm

  • @BLOXLIN
    @BLOXLIN Місяць тому

    Rip crew ears

  • @guts2015
    @guts2015 Місяць тому +1

    Stalinium

  • @kleamis
    @kleamis Місяць тому

    "Stalinium" ahh video