ua-cam.com/video/viL0juV-pyI/v-deo.html Here you have another masterpiece directed by Luka. Dinamo Zagreb- Ajax Amsterdam. They've had Suarez, we 've had Manđukić 😁
Man, RIP John Motson. By far the best commentator I've ever heard, grew up with him as the voice of football on the BBC. Crazy how just the way he sounds can immediately make a football match seem bigger than it really is, wish he was still around today calling games.
@@SuperTed19021Modrić was already world class MDF , in CRO we knew he could achieve very good carrer in a top 5 leauge UEFA, but not even close to this legendary status he has now vs AJAX (Suarez ) vs WERDER BREMEN ( golden team in those years) vs ARSENAL vs INDONESIA u19 ( 5 assist + 2 freekick goals)
Gosh, as an England fan I still remember this disaster like it were yesterday. I was 13 at the time and had recently started taking an interest in football, and I was excited to watch in England in a major tournament for the first time as a fan. When Israel done us a huge favour a few days earlier I thought that we would certainly get the job done and qualify, but then what a rollarcoaster this match was which ended in despair and disbelief. Euro 2008 turned out be a great tournement as a neutral Sidenote - Motty's quote on Modric at 34:58 "he's the rising star of Croatian football, keep your eye on the number 14" how true those words rang
@@Onmysheetunfortunately a lot of those England players played for rival teams and they put club over country that's why they never really achieved anything.
Makes you appreciate Southgate. England were dreadful under McClaren, they played 1 good game at home to Israel. 2nd halves at home to Russia and away to Estonia they were poor and rode their luck and they got their come uppance against the Croats. Let's remember as great as this generation of Croatians were England hammered them 4-1 in Zagreb under Capello 10 months after this travesty.
How shite was that England team one of the worst l can remember with the worst ever manager the less said about that muppet Carson the better what a dreadful goalie he was.
@@milojkogermasic4968 I definitely think you could have gone to the final. Because Croatia always used to cause Germany all sorts of problems. And they would have met again in the semis. Although I am not sure if you could have beaten Spain in the final
@@milojkogermasic4968 As a Turkish, I don't think anyone in that tournament would've beat Spain in the final. They were just too good in their prime era. If we hadn't have injuries in the Germany match, we could've defeat them and went for the finals. Guess we're both unlucky
@@aspectcommander7144 @tashrif46 yeah i definitely got a bit carried away, especially considering the painful way we crashed out I dont know about Spain, but we were stacked and played well, that team already beat Germany in the group stage, i think we would have made the final
If ever a footballing phrase was described as laughable it's 'England's Golden Generation' right here. Totally overrated, overhyped and an embarrassment to the nation
@@allthekingshorses7178 By now we all know their excuse, they didn't like each other because they were playing for rival PL teams. But c'mon man, at least put that aside to play for your country. They had a great midfield in Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Scholes, and a good defence of Ferdinand, Terry & Cole, Rooney up front, but they were really missing quality in the GK position, RB position and wingers. Great players who didn't gel and played in a system that didn't work by coaches who didn't really know how to play them all together. Recipe for disaster and a waste of all their talent.
And Russia ended up going all the way to the semi-finals...reminds me of how Denmark who didn't originally qualify for the 1992 Euro Cup only got a spot in it due to Yugoslavia's disqualification and ended up winning the whole thing
What a legend motson was. And now we have to put up cringe buckets guy Mowbray and Steve Wilson, two of the most embarrassing commentators to ever walk the planet.
@@Ayoung2028 Add in Lee Dixion. My disdain for him grows with every single game he "commentates" on. The guy just moans nonstop, sounds bored, doesn't give any praise to anybody, just a god awful commentator.
In qualifiers for WC 2010 England have beaten Croatia twice, and then lost in Ukraine to send Croatia out of the playoffs. Croatia waited for almost 10 years to get back at England. And they did it in a World Cup semifinal.
England totally underestimated them that night too as I recall. It was the night Roy Keane mocked Ian Wright for 'planning the parades' before the game had even begun. No one does hubris like the English!
@@NoCoastRaps after getting beat by England 5:1 (first match 4:1 for England), they played 4 more matches. 3 wins and a draw againt Ukraine. Croatia had 2 losses (England), and 2 draws (Ukraine). Ukraine had 2 draws (Croatia) and 1 loss (England). That match in Ukraine decided who qualifies for the playoffs. England had 9 wins, and 1 loss (Ukraine). That didn't sit well with Croatians. The feeling was England didn't go 100%. Even tho you are correct when you say Croatia would have qualified if they won home match against Ukraine. They had a chance to qualify by winning at home. You have to take that. I just say how it is viewed in Croatia.
This was brilliant Croatian generation. Full of experience, great pace in front line with Eduardo and Olic and very talented youngsters - Luka Modric and Ivan Rakitic. I was soooo sad when lost to Turkey on pens at Euro 2008. So unlucky!! They could have won that Euro that year.
@@bijou201 Lol it's not really a "what if," we saw a much worse Spain team beat a much better Croatia coming off a WC final 6-0, they have a very good record against them, like Croatia does with Italy
@@BC-th3mx so basically you are saying that 2007 Croatia team ("worse" than Spain) could also win "much better" 2007 Spain. It can go vice versa too. Typical example of "what if". Btw in "Derby Adriatico" Italy never won vs Croatia (8 matches). ;)
Probably the angriest I’ve been watching international football. Years later I can fully appreciate what a fantastic performance Croatia gave, absolutely deserved it, England were so poor on the night.
@@kelechiasika9429if you watched us through the whole group of the qualifiers. You would say no to your question. Thats not dissing Croatia football as they played some lovely stuff. And fully deserved to go through. But England football during these qualifiers was so hard to watch. As we had the talent to do well at the tournament. But played the worse football I have seen from us. Drawing with Israel and Macedonia. And losing to Russia shows our football was shocking. Not dissing the teams that got points against us as fully deserved it (all were the better team in all games). But when you look at the talent McClaren had we should have topped the group. Maybe should have been close as Croatia had some good strength in their team. Like the guys at the end we was not angry that we lost. We were angry at the manner of how we lost. Zero fight through the whole competition and we got what we deserved. When your only prey is for Andorra to get a goal in their game to help you qualify. That tells the story of how poor England were lol.
@@cnote2458Nope playing barry and gerrard wright philips. They are all shit players just devoid of any technique. Any jumior football fan could tell that. England had no talent. The most skilfu player was joe cole wgo can olay some decent football. Gerrard is jsut a clown thay lobs ball high eevry time. Scholes am carrick would do way better😂
@@johannsebastienbach Played shit from start to finish, yes. When you look at the squad as individuals however, you would have taken none of them for Premier League talents. What's more shocking is, they were highly sought after players at all levels of the game. It was enraging to watch, especially when we knew they'd go back to their clubs and not play shit.
Apparently, the goal scoring winner Petric said was that when Croatia was at the airport in London, they were treated like criminals. So this motivated them to go out there and finish the qualifying tournament with a win.
Lescott, Richards, Bridge, Carson…. Thank you Croatia, you did us a favour! Can you imagine the HUMILIATION if England had actually qualified with this team at Euro 2008?!? 😂
Don't imagine any of them would have played much, Ashley Cole, John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Paul Robinson were all in their prime at that time. There were some injuries for this game but the likes of Cole and Terry miraculously recovered days later 😂 England would have still been abysmal at the Euro's regardless though, no real doubt about that, the Golden Generation rarely got close to living up to potential and McLaren was obviously an absolute disaster.
This was after Israel had done England a huge favour by beating Russia as well. Despite England's absence, Euro 2008 was one of the most entertaining and best quality major tournaments that I've ever seen (Euro 2000 would come in first place).
Born and raised in London as a Turk.. to this day I'm always bitter that I wasn't born a few years earlier :( Only 6 years old when Turkey reached the Semis, can hardly remember anything from that tournament
Russia football was, at that time, the dark horse story. In Euro 2008, even though they lost heavily to eventual champions Spain with tiki taka, they managed to stun the Netherlands that topped the group of death. In World Cup 2018, as a host, they destroyed Saudi Arabia with 5 goals and even finally got a revenge against Spain to reach the quarterfinal. Now, they are just a Nazi Germany looking for colonizing the nations. We want a football, not a war.
@@1has9683 I remember everything. I remember the whole "will we get a group stage penalty shootout" when the Czechs and Turks played. Also the fallout from Cech dropping the ball at 2-1 up and the talk afterwards about whether he was on the decline. I remember when Croatia scored in the quarter final I asked my brother "how long left?" to which my brother replied "doesn't matter, it's over!" ... suffice to say Semih scored that memorable leveller and Turkey won the shootout Great tournament!
What Superb team Croatia had at Euro 2008, we won all 3 match at group stage within Germany wich was in Final later. And then lost vs very very Lucky Turkey at penalty shoutout
Yep, you should have played us(Czechia) anyway, you would have beaten us really easily I think.. Insted you got what one of the most luckiest teams ever who scored almost all of their goals with some lucky deflections or after players making schoolboy mistakes (Petr Cech)..
@PaYaB_005 Czech Republic is still one of only couple of teams we (Croatia) never managed to beat at a big international competition. We drew the group games at Euro 2016 and Euro 2020. Other teams that we never can beat and played against at least twice (from the top of my head) - France (lost the WC 1998 semi, drew Euro 2004 group game and lost the 2018 WC final), Portugal (lost the group game at Euro 1996 and the Euro 2016 round of 16 game), Mexico (lost WC group games in 2002 and 2014, the latter was especially painful because it was the last group game and meant that we didn't progress to the knockout stage, also fascinating to me is that Mexico in the last 20 years or so almost always qualifies to the World Cup knockout round and then it gets eliminated immediately in the round of 16, Croatia is completely different, doesn't qualify to the knockout round everytime, but when it does it finishes the tournament with a medal).
Classic BBC pundits... in 2006 (Croati won 1st leg 2:0) & 2007 talking about "bad english performance"... in 2018 as well... talking only about themselves... underestimating and never giving Croatia due credit... and they were beaten by world class team in all three occasions... completely detached from reality... just keep on doing that!
You're right that Ego, self-absorption (not the same as healthy confidence and self-regard, just backing oneself) and worst of all complacency are still the ruin of England nt. Until that's completely gone, we'll never win a cup.
It's kinda interesting how Hansen used the phrasing "out thought and out fought", just for Shearer sitting next to him to use that exact phrasing for the Iceland game almost 10 years later.
He must of had the *strongest* bladder and lips ever, to witness not only this, but also what was going to befall this England team in the years ahead.
One of the most dramatic, entertaining, agonising, and ecstatic commentaries made by John Motson, who a top-notch man he was during when England failed to qualify for Euro 2008 back in November 2007. Absolute ecstasy for Croatia by scoring three goals, but what an awful, agonising, and unforgivable performance by England after those defending and goalkeeping mistakes. RIP John Motson (1945-2023)
But it lead to *zilch.* Beside, Croatia went on to achieve *speculator* results in their history/population further down the line (2nd and 3rd in two consecutive World Cups, with both featuring Luka Modric), and *one* of those was at our English expense.
@@Mlaargaar Gerrard for England was so so poor. Some of those passes there were miles off. People forget his prime Liverpool position was in behind Torres in a 4411, with 2 world class defensive midfielders in Macherano and Alonso behind him, and very disciplined wingers, certainly in Dirk Kuyt on the right. Gerrard was almost like a striker in his prime. It's bizarre fans look back at him as this orthodox midfielder. He was under Houlier and for a bit under Benitez before Benitez could see how unreliable he was there. A great example would be the Champs league final win where Gerrard had a shocking first half in a midfield 2. 3-0 down at half time. Brings on Hamann, moves Gerrard much further forward and he has an incredible game. Gerrard moved back to DM under Rodgers when he was past his best, but only controlled games against poorer opponents. Never against the best by that point
Definitely it was the rainy night on the 21st November 2007, England never made it to Euro 2008 after losing only 2-3 against Croatia! But whereas last summer, they played well to get to the finals, despite having lost in the penalties to Italy which was a bit of a shame! They should be proud of themselves for getting in the finals though!!
@@racerja3173 *EXACTLY!* For the same, similar reasons as this campaign. Failing to beat Macedonia at home or Israel away in 2006-07 was exactly like failing to beat Norway at home or Poland away in 1992-93, hence why we didn't qualify.
I remember this. I remember being so upset England didn’t make it, so I decided to support Spain in the tournament. Spain were utterly fantastic, and was the start of something special for Spain.
You made the right choice. During this era/decade many of us EPL fans & Brits switched from supporting England to another national team, just for the pain relief. e.g. I was always a dual fan of both England & Wales' teams, but after this performance I definitely lost interest and stopped watching England for a good ten years.
@@pendafen7405 10 years in hibernation! What did you take for pain relief? Your expectations are too high. The English were always ordinary and overated. Over 80,000 screaming supporters at home!! What are they like away?
They were both amazing players but none of them were exactly ever known for their ability to control a game, so why are you commenting like it's a surprise? Both were box to box midfielders. Modric wasn't/isn't.
@@OhTylerB I’m not commentating like it’s a surprise, I know full well Luka Modric is a better footballer than either Lampard or Gerrard. I didn’t need this video to affirm it. I know Lampard and Gerrard were box to box midfielders, what’s your point? Roy Keane was a box to box midfielder, he controlled games, so was Patrick Vieira, controlled games too. None of them were as good as Modric either.
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 They're completely different players with completely different strengths, and only a simpleton would compare either of them to Modric. It's like comparing Kane to Suarez.
The UEFA Euro 2008 qualification shouldn't came down to two games against Russia and Croatia had England had a win against Macedonia inside Old Trafford when they had a goalless draw.
When you have an over confident manager who really doesn't have a fucking clue what he is doing this is the result, McLaren thought he was going to walk into that job totally re arrange the team and win trophies.
Modrić is the only Croatian player from this game to still actively play! Corluka and Rakitic were the last ones to retire from this squad when they both retired in 2018. Modric playing 6 years after their retirement is crazy...
Oh god this game. Don't think I've ever felt worse as an England fan honestly. Looking back now Bilic's Croatia & Hiddink's Russia were WAY better than I ever gave them credit for at the time, if I remember right both had very good Euro 2008 tournaments, but even so this felt horrible. Iceland had nothing on this. That England team was ordinary & the manager was having mares all over the place, being embarrassed by them felt inevitable. This England team I expected better.
@@andrewjoyce9038 I'd mentally prepared for that, got more than enough practice coping with losing on penalties as an England fan lol. Plus my club has lost a Champions League Final on penalties so wasn't new territory for me.
I remember this as if it was yesterday, Beckham was my hero growing up, this match hurts me 10x more as it meant I would never see Beckham play for England in an international tournament again. How I felt when Crouch scored the equaliser was second to none, I celebrated that goal as if it was a last minute winner, I'll never forgive McClaren for this.
What about the players such as Terry, Lampard and Gerrard who let their country down by not performance? McClaren wasn't entirely at fault although we were certain to achieve nothing under him.
@@purpledragons1146 Not much Gerrard or Lampard could do about that awful defence and goalkeeper tbf, it should have been 8-2. Plus it was common knowledge by 2007 that they couldn’t play together in midfield yet McLaren still did it.
I remember the hubris England fans and pundits showed towards this game, that it was a given victory and just a formality. Despite being an England fan I kind of enjoyed watching us get beat. We needed to be humbled as a nation. Iceland was another moment and probably the real turning point for us as a nation. Now we tend not to underestimate teams as horrendously.
The star of this match is...the kid in front of Scott Carson singing the England national anthem. That's what you call passion! This England team could have done with him on the pitch lol. Actually, England didn't deserve to lose the game because they came back from 2-down.
The media wanted McLaren and they got their man. He was completely and utterly out of his depth. He had what was a decent England side playing like a League 2 side in a fourth round FA Cup tie. Dark times.
@@Onmysheet That way of thinking was more likely from his assistant Terry Venables and absentee captain John Terry. Hence why we put out that disastrous starting 11. The Wally probably had *no* real thought of his own.
Very entertaining game to watch but my god England were shambolic. Drawing against the likes of Israel and Macedonia prior to this is a disgrace. Even during this game, they had absolutely no control and couldn't really maintain possession. Just hoofball up to lanky Crouch. This was a team that prioritised club football over England. When people criticise Southgate and the current england team, I point them to the golden generation and the team prior to 2018. There's proper unity and passion in the team. We actually control games now and we qualify for tournaments comfortably. And when we get to tournaments, we actually go deep (Semis in 2018, Final in 2021 and unlucky to lose against France in QF 2022). So when we inevitably go deep in Euro 2024 and lose to France in the semis or final, look back on games like this before crying about the team.
Isreal's home record was very good in this qualifying tournament, even though England should've sneaked a win. The home game against Macedonia was the match that cost them qualification.
Euro 2008 as a whole was given a *massive* favour. The only ones for feel sorry for was Israel (with that excellent win against Russia proving all in vain).
Few things I remember about this game (as a Croat): After winning the first match 2:0, entire England kept talking how a huge disgrace was to loose (although I agree on that comic own goal), almost like loosing from San Marino Before this match, english media started talking how Russians promised Croatian football federation a ton of money, cars etc if they win (never happened) and that they'll play for Russia. Rusians worrying that Croatia won't play at their 100% as already being qualified and Cro answering to both how they play for themselves, not England, not Russia. English pundits saying how England is better at literally everything and that England needs to beat by several goals as a payback for first game. Cro players being treated almost like illegals at the airport. All of that pretty much motivated cro players to hell and back. After the game, English media proclaiming Lampard as Motm, noone knows why, without penalty you wouldn't even know the was there. And after McClaren was sacked, media writing to whoever becoms new selector rules that he has to follow and one of them that England MUST ALWAYS PLAY IN 4-4-2
There were pundits at the time saying the England team can only play Premier league style football I.e. Get the ball and attack get it forward quickly. International football you need more patience and keep the ball
@@leemc5646 The midfield back then didn't like tight spaces. That England squad were never favorites to win tournaments. The current England team is superior.
When england could not pass the ball simply 5 yards with out hitting it too hard or slow, and the player receiving could not control it with out the ball bubbling or doing a bad touc, only hoof ball was their identity. Got to say they improved now, and can play like rest of the world
Your acting like England never knew how to play good football. They had some excellent teams in the 66, 86, 90 and 96 playing all out attacking football. This team simply didn’t gel because of club rivalry’s and poor management from McLaren and then Capello. The next England fans think of criticising Southgate, they should come back and watch this video. Not since the early 00s has the England team been more settled
@@oracle8589 Yes but his point was about the ability to pass a ball and he is right. Go back to the days of 90 and 96 and 86 - statistically, the amount of completed England passes is far less than what it is today. They'd complete maybe 4 or 5 passes before losing the ball or trying a long ball. Football has evolved since then. Even the GErmans complete more passes now than they used to. But it has taken England much longer to be able to do it.
@@oracle8589 Southgate has the benefit of managing players who work under elite world-class European coaches, so they walk in the door of SGP with passing game. His job is rather easy once he's got the lads on his side and working together.
@@oracle8589 Lol 66 did NOT play attacking football, set a record for fewest goals scored by a champion, one of only a few who finished below 2 goals per match because their players have never been very talented, but make up for it with organization and discipline
@Dead-Ball-Situation The England from 2003 - 2016 were awful tactically. They had the players but still couldn't make it work, especially in 2006 - 2008.
Can thank the system they finally put it place for the kids for that. 20 yrs later we see the results. We looked at our fierce enemies and took what they did. Now we have replaced them, other than the trophys that is.
@@MegaDeansy I was on about yhe young players and the training they were given. And in that case we have matched and now bettered them. The f u on about. Having your own chat with yourself. Not even reading what i was on about. F youtube for ya. Full of clowns.
This game imo shuts down the idea that England not winning anything in this period was down to them simply not being good enough. Loads of these players ended their careers with Premier league and champions league medals, yet they couldn't even qualify for the euros? Definitely something wrong with their attitude...
The pressure and expectation at that time was too much. Their club managers evolved tactically but the England managers were still playing a rigid 4-4-2 most of the time. Beckham had too much influence and was undroppable for a long time.
@@leemc5646 "Beckham had too much influence and was undroppable for a long time." If Beckham hadn't come on at half time England would've lost 3+ - 0. The only player with any passion for the national team in this period, when you consider players like Terry and Cole stayed at home.
@@TPH250290 *What difference would that make if Croatia beat us 4, 5, 6 to nil,* (which they should have have done anyway)? England didn't deserve anything from this match and it was a blessing that really we didn't qualify for that tournament. If we have kept it to a drew and gone through, it would have been an *complete* injustice to Croatia to how they handled the game and played and how we performed. If we really deserved a place at Euro 2008, we *should not* have drawn at Israel away and Macedonia at home. Also, despite his passion that night, Becks made poor judgement in marking for Croatia's winning goal and it was his influence again that made Capello's reign crash and burn that came after this, not to mention good-old 4-4-2 and media/FA pressure.
They won those accolades surrounded by talented foreign counterparts. To this day, it’s the foreign talent that gives the EPL its status. This England were mediocre and so were their results. Current England squad have a lot to prove and conquer
The defeat against Netherlands was not a shocking because at that time they still had some world class players like Ronald Koeman and Dennis Bergkamp. However, I will still consider that 0-2 loss as humiliating because a win must be required for England to keep them alive. The last game against San Marino is meaningless because had Serenissima didn't score the shocking goal, England are still failed to qualify if they lost to Dutch side.
Iceland has got to be the worst one, that was basically the equivalent of a Premier League side losing to a semi professional part time team in the FA Cup.
Club football in 2007 as today was dominated by foreign players, coaches & in certain cases foreign money... can't compare with International football... If you go back far enough (70s & 80s) then it gets crazy... English club teams (British players) dominating in Europe yet England won nothing in the 80s (not even Semi appearances) & didn't qualify for two World Cups in the 70s
Fun Fact: The Champions League Final was held in Moscow at that time. England lost 1-2 to Russia in the qualifying match away. It's so crazy how they got an all-English Final six months later in the same venue where they got embarrassed by the Russians. But Zenit Saint Petersburg, a Russian club, won the UEFA Cup, with the Final taking place in current Manchester City's Etihad Stadium at that time.
And Big Sam lasting one game before having to leave. Okay Southgate is not a football genius but people seem to forget just how terrible England were for pretty much a decade before he took over.
How poor was England midfield this game? Down 3-2 with 14 mins left and couldn't get control of the ball. Gerrard and Lampard were a disaster in the last 10 minutes . 11 years after this game and Croatia led by Modric destroyed England midfield again. Kinda funny
@@longplayVHShappened cause Capello detected immediately Croatia's biggest problem at that time and that was the lack of even decent left fullback. Šimunić who played in this game was a centre back, Babić (on the bench) was a left misfielder and later Pranjić was a midfielder (even winger at Herenveen) before that. Cappelo put the fastest player on right wing (first wallcot and then lennon), took all of his good passers on the left side (gerrard I believe) who would then send long balls on the right wing. 9 goals in 2 games and 8 of them came from that. Croatia just didn't have the player on the left who could defend 1v1 a skilled dribler
Honestly, the English defending was shambolic. Probably the effect of not using Michael Carrick at all in the defensive midfield position and then the likes of John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Ashley Cole not even playing. I remember this was a big deal that England failed to make a major tournament, there was such an outcry in 2007 and who knows what England might have done at had they even qualified for Euro 2008 because the Golden Generation was certainly on their last legs.
@Tadhg Lattimore I mean 2010 they lost all momentum with the Wayne Rooney injury before the World Cup and then Robert Green blunder in the first game shot all sort of confidence in that team
@@tashrif46 that doesnt make any sense. How can you lose all momentum because of an injury to one player. France lost multiple players this world cup and were still mentally strong. And as for greens mistake, one gk mistake cannot make a whole team lose confidence they made it through the group. They lost momentum because they shrink in the limelight and play with no courage. They had more than enough quality to do well in both tournaments. They were mentally weak from the start waiting for a mistake or injustice to blame.
@Tadhg Lattimore well thats a credit for France and Didier Deschamps that they didn't. But England relied on Wayne Rooney for goals and it was clear that he was nowhere near 100%. And after that Green mistake, they lost all confidence. The evidence is in their performance, they played safe and not to lose. Dont ask me why.
Yeah, they were terrible on that day. They were utter shit when they lost 2-3 to Croatia and never made it to Euro 2008... Shocking when Steve McClaren lost his job as England manager and the infamous Italian football manager, Fabio Capello took over the team long before Gareth Southgate!
@@josephhall1995 You must remember *how* lacking the "Golden Generation" of the England national football team was. No goalkeepers, no strikers makes a lot. Doesn't matter how many stars/names you fit into a squad.
Englands penalty was spotted by the linesman, whistled by the referee, lamprad stepped up and scored it all of this in under 30 seconds. Fast forward to 2024, penalty takes anything from 8 minutes to be confirmed or denied. The once was a beautiful sport.
This match is a really good example of Gerrard and Lampard's limitations as midfielders. Gerrard is all blood and thunder and no composure; whenever he gets the ball he immediately looks for a Hollywood ball, never taking control of the game or trying to dictate the pace, just hit and hope. Lampard meanwhile let's the game completely pass him by; doesn't offer himself for the ball to try to playmake, nor does he play up close to crouch to use his goalscoring instinct. Both of them were great in existing systems that played to their strengths, but neither of them were ever the truly complete midfielders people claim.
What *might* have happened if you used Hargreaves or/and Carrick instead of these two *at least* 2 years prior. Or just have Lampard on as an attacking sticker at least, with means *no* room for Gerrard.
@@seanpadraigobrien1260 he didn’t leave spurs till he was about 27/28. He was brilliant at spurs, the English media just didn’t realise how good he was
What did you expect from a cb pairing of Cambpell and Lescott in hindsight. Not saying any of them were bad but that was such a odd and random cb pairing
McClaren got too many big decisions wrong in this game. Starting Carson at his age. No experience on an awful pitch. He had James with tonnes of experience on the bench. He's played Crouch who thrives on crosses into the box and he's benched possibly the best crosser of a ball in football history in Beckham. 2 huge decisions, and he got them both wrong.
It was probably more likely his assistant manager Terry Venables and his absentee captain John Terry that made those shit decisions and McClaren just went along with the two of them. *SMFH!*
In 2006, I actually placed a bet on England to not qualify from this group. I just thought Croatia, Russia and Israel would be tough opponents for them and they were being under estimated (typical pundits) IMO. Anyway, I put £10 at 11/2. I actually thought they were quite short odds and remember feeling disappointed. Still, I placed the bet and 15 months later, collected my winnings. Also, every time I watch back these games/highlights, when England got knocked out - the pundits have always been over confident about England winning the game. The ultimate kiss of death.
1. England were gifted another chance to qualify by the freak result of Israel beating Russia. 2. England only needed a draw. 3. Croatia had already qualified. BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD
Terrible managing from McLaren here. He chose Carson in goal over James who had more experience, which Croatia took advantage of. Why pick Carson in such a crucial game?
it was more *probably* Terry Venables (his assistant manager) and John Terry (his absentee captain) behind those. Steve McClaren just probably went along with those two.
@@MrKAKARONALDOMESSI When we robbed Scotland of a place in Euro 2000? Not to mention it would have done that tournament *as much* of a favour as this did.
But sky *really will* be the limit in 11-15 years time! 💕👏 PS: Luka Modric. *WHAT A PLAYER!* If *only* we over here in England had trained and neutered Paul Gascoigne the same way during the 1990s decade.
Croatia 4milion people. London at least 3 times more. I am Croatian. What hurts is that bit of arogance...english media, some players too. I forgive all, I have many good frieds in UK. Just... guys stop it. love
*Ouch, don't say UK!* Scotland came *incredibly* close to qualifying for Euro 2008 in that same qualifying campaign with a *much* harder group (France, Italy and Ukraine). Same with Northern Ireland (Spain, Denmark and Sweden). Both with much lower populations and players available. I also remember Scotland got *unbelievably* robbed against Italy at Hampden in the dying minutes of that final qualifying game. It was only England that stunk that QC out whilst Wales was in translation (e.g. the starting emergence of the Bale/Ramsey era).
I also remember going to watch this match at a pub with my Dad and his best mate, but I was so ill that night my mum had to pick me up and take me home
Yep, wanted to bathe in failure for a bit 😂 but the players we have today are so much better than we had, then, so no excuse for the woeful performance tonight
Gareth Southgate might be a very conservative, gunshy boss, but he saw England gone much deeper into tournaments with four Top Four finishes as Three Lions manager: 2018 FIFA World Cup Fourth Place, 2018-19 UEFA Nations League Third Place, UEFA Euro 2020/21 and 2024 runners-up. The likes of Sven-Goran Eriksson, Steve McLaren, Fabio Capello, and Roy Hodgson didn't even come close.
McLaren had to go after this disastrous performance. I could never understand why he jettisoned Paul Robinson so quickly, who had done well in goal before making one bad mistake in the away defeat to Croatia. Bringing in Scott Carson for this game certainly didn't work.
It’s like a game from a whole different era. For those who weren’t around, this is an education. This is how dreadful England used to be sometimes. Carson in the first half looked like someone who had won a competition to play for England. The tactics for the whole game were horrid as well. McLaren had England playing like a Non league side with all of the long balls up to Peter Crouch. (probably the only England player here who put in a shift!)
When people moan about Southgate I think back to these days, love him or hate him he’s brought us a long way. Tactically in this game there was not a clue, players look void of passion or interest. Great players in the squad.
Southgate is worse tactically. He's just managing a much better England talent pool and has got an insane amount of luck with draws. Not to mention the overall standard of other international sides has dropped.
Before Southgate came in England were a shambles not qualifying for the 1994 World Cup, failed to qualify for euro 2008, didn’t get out of the group in Brazil 2014 and the biggest one was losing to Iceland at euro 2016
As much as I think it maybe time for Southgate to move on, its worth remembering just how dire things were in the past and this really was a low point, ha!
I agree, we should criticise Southgate when he gets it wrong, but his tenure overall has been poles apart from what we used to sit through under failed England managers like Hodgson, Capello, and McLaren. England nowadays get booed off at half time by some of the younger fans when they’re not battering the other team, which shows how far England have come because they used to be a lot lot worse.
Modrić is the only Croatian player from this game to still actively play! Corluka and Rakitic were the last ones to retire from this squad when they both retired in 2018. Modric playing 6 years after their retirement is crazy...
![England 2-3 Croatia [21-11-2007]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WrQQM6h58iE/mqdefault.jpg)
Extraordinarily, there he is in midfield - Luka Modric. The longevity is astonishing.
What a player
A genuine footballing legend
On that night, a footballing star *really* was born!
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Here you have another masterpiece directed by Luka.
Dinamo Zagreb- Ajax Amsterdam.
They've had Suarez, we 've had Manđukić 😁
Scott Carson still going too...
34:58 "Keep your eye on the number 14"
16 years later Modric signs a new contract at age 37 with Real Madrid... What a player.
he played at 2006 wc too
@@mike04574
nope.. he did not.. him and eduardo did not play, what actually was a huge mistake by coach zlatko kranjcar
yes he did i remember. Eduardo didnt play but modric did@@rutokelavra819
@@rutokelavra819yes, he did. He played against both Japan and Australia in 2006 WC.
Rutokelavra819 another person who assumes but again is wrong and what makes me laugh is the person is in google UA-cam etc uneducated lazy brain
Man, RIP John Motson. By far the best commentator I've ever heard, grew up with him as the voice of football on the BBC. Crazy how just the way he sounds can immediately make a football match seem bigger than it really is, wish he was still around today calling games.
I forgot he had passed, he was one of my absolute favourites.
Yes John Motson was brilliant.
Luka modric dominating midfields from 2007 what an absolute legend .
This night at Wembley *really* did unveil a true footballing legend that night, *that's* for sure.
Shut up
2006 wc
@@SuperTed19021Modrić was already world class MDF , in CRO we knew he could achieve very good carrer in a top 5 leauge UEFA, but not even close to this legendary status he has now
vs AJAX (Suarez )
vs WERDER BREMEN ( golden team in those years)
vs ARSENAL
vs INDONESIA u19 ( 5 assist + 2 freekick goals)
2007🥹
Gosh, as an England fan I still remember this disaster like it were yesterday. I was 13 at the time and had recently started taking an interest in football, and I was excited to watch in England in a major tournament for the first time as a fan. When Israel done us a huge favour a few days earlier I thought that we would certainly get the job done and qualify, but then what a rollarcoaster this match was which ended in despair and disbelief. Euro 2008 turned out be a great tournement as a neutral
Sidenote - Motty's quote on Modric at 34:58 "he's the rising star of Croatian football, keep your eye on the number 14" how true those words rang
It was a shame England didn't qualify. All the players were at their prime at that point.
@@Onmysheetunfortunately a lot of those England players played for rival teams and they put club over country that's why they never really achieved anything.
i was delighted because didn't qualify as it was the first euros or world cup that I remember England failing to qualify for.
Makes you appreciate Southgate. England were dreadful under McClaren, they played 1 good game at home to Israel. 2nd halves at home to Russia and away to Estonia they were poor and rode their luck and they got their come uppance against the Croats.
Let's remember as great as this generation of Croatians were England hammered them 4-1 in Zagreb under Capello 10 months after this travesty.
How shite was that England team one of the worst l can remember with the worst ever manager the less said about that muppet Carson the better what a dreadful goalie he was.
Luka Modric over here, even though he was young, was class. And he did it again to Germany in the actual tournament.
notice the same patterns of play he has today
If Turkey didnt score a goal in 122nd minute, we would have won the tournament😞
@@milojkogermasic4968 I definitely think you could have gone to the final. Because Croatia always used to cause Germany all sorts of problems. And they would have met again in the semis. Although I am not sure if you could have beaten Spain in the final
@@milojkogermasic4968 As a Turkish, I don't think anyone in that tournament would've beat Spain in the final. They were just too good in their prime era. If we hadn't have injuries in the Germany match, we could've defeat them and went for the finals. Guess we're both unlucky
@@aspectcommander7144 @tashrif46 yeah i definitely got a bit carried away, especially considering the painful way we crashed out
I dont know about Spain, but we were stacked and played well, that team already beat Germany in the group stage, i think we would have made the final
@ 2:16:10 Motson on Modric "..... and amidst all this mayhem, have we seen a star in the making tonight?" Spot on, Motty!⭐
38:53 England 0-1 Croatia (Niko Kranjčar)
44:22 England 0-2 Croatia (Ivica Olić)
1:42:44 England 1-2 Croatia (Frank Lampard)
1:52:25 England 2-2 Croatia (Peter Crouch)
2:04:41 England 2-3 Croatia (Mladen Petrić)
Thx
Crouch takes his goal really well tbf.
The poor attempt at holding a line for Olic's goal is comical though
Crouch was virtually in the six yard box by the time Lampard struck the penalty.
Thx😂❤️🤍💙🙌💪
Classic Crouch goal that
Modric still looks the same 15 years later! What a player too
If ever a footballing phrase was described as laughable it's 'England's Golden Generation' right here. Totally overrated, overhyped and an embarrassment to the nation
Despite what was happening to the home team that night, a *sheer* footballing legend was born that night. Credit to Croatia!
@@allthekingshorses7178 By now we all know their excuse, they didn't like each other because they were playing for rival PL teams. But c'mon man, at least put that aside to play for your country. They had a great midfield in Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Scholes, and a good defence of Ferdinand, Terry & Cole, Rooney up front, but they were really missing quality in the GK position, RB position and wingers. Great players who didn't gel and played in a system that didn't work by coaches who didn't really know how to play them all together. Recipe for disaster and a waste of all their talent.
The best game in Russian football history.
Using the opportunity, I want to say thanks a LOT to the Croats.
you wouldn't believe how many Croats wanted this outcome :)
I heard you FA have sent some of most expensive cars to Croatian FA after this game..
@@orahovavucichitlerdacicgoe7223 And apparently vodka to the Croatian embassy in Moscow.
And Russia ended up going all the way to the semi-finals...reminds me of how Denmark who didn't originally qualify for the 1992 Euro Cup only got a spot in it due to Yugoslavia's disqualification and ended up winning the whole thing
RIP John Motson the last time he would commentate an England match, as he retired from live broadcasting after the Euros the following year 2:21:11
What a legend motson was. And now we have to put up cringe buckets guy Mowbray and Steve Wilson, two of the most embarrassing commentators to ever walk the planet.
@@Ayoung2028 Mowbray worse than Wilson
@@alexmeechan9701 Mobray is probably the worst sound I’ve ever heard
@@Ayoung2028Wilson is trash and Mowbray is way better in my opinion. Cant stand Steve Wilson, atleast Mowbrays unbiased
@@Ayoung2028 Add in Lee Dixion. My disdain for him grows with every single game he "commentates" on. The guy just moans nonstop, sounds bored, doesn't give any praise to anybody, just a god awful commentator.
In qualifiers for WC 2010 England have beaten Croatia twice, and then lost in Ukraine to send Croatia out of the playoffs. Croatia waited for almost 10 years to get back at England. And they did it in a World Cup semifinal.
Great rivalry. We beat them, they beat us, and so on. Cheers
England totally underestimated them that night too as I recall. It was the night Roy Keane mocked Ian Wright for 'planning the parades' before the game had even begun. No one does hubris like the English!
They beated them 2-0 in first Q game. If they underrestimated them they were dumb. I dont think that happened. Croatia was simply great
Even though they lost to England they still had a chance to qualify by beating Ukraine but all they managed was a draw
@@NoCoastRaps after getting beat by England 5:1 (first match 4:1 for England), they played 4 more matches. 3 wins and a draw againt Ukraine. Croatia had 2 losses (England), and 2 draws (Ukraine). Ukraine had 2 draws (Croatia) and 1 loss (England). That match in Ukraine decided who qualifies for the playoffs. England had 9 wins, and 1 loss (Ukraine). That didn't sit well with Croatians. The feeling was England didn't go 100%. Even tho you are correct when you say Croatia would have qualified if they won home match against Ukraine. They had a chance to qualify by winning at home. You have to take that. I just say how it is viewed in Croatia.
This was brilliant Croatian generation. Full of experience, great pace in front line with Eduardo and Olic and very talented youngsters - Luka Modric and Ivan Rakitic. I was soooo sad when lost to Turkey on pens at Euro 2008. So unlucky!! They could have won that Euro that year.
Spain would've smashed them
@@BC-th3mx what if...what if. Yawn
@@bijou201 Lol it's not really a "what if," we saw a much worse Spain team beat a much better Croatia coming off a WC final 6-0, they have a very good record against them, like Croatia does with Italy
@@BC-th3mx so basically you are saying that 2007 Croatia team ("worse" than Spain) could also win "much better" 2007 Spain. It can go vice versa too. Typical example of "what if". Btw in "Derby Adriatico" Italy never won vs Croatia (8 matches). ;)
@@BC-th3mx if there would be a "pool" of 50 milion croatians to get talents from you wouldnt have a chance.
Probably the angriest I’ve been watching international football. Years later I can fully appreciate what a fantastic performance Croatia gave, absolutely deserved it, England were so poor on the night.
Or did Croatia make them so poor on that night?
@@kelechiasika9429if you watched us through the whole group of the qualifiers. You would say no to your question. Thats not dissing Croatia football as they played some lovely stuff. And fully deserved to go through. But England football during these qualifiers was so hard to watch. As we had the talent to do well at the tournament. But played the worse football I have seen from us. Drawing with Israel and Macedonia. And losing to Russia shows our football was shocking. Not dissing the teams that got points against us as fully deserved it (all were the better team in all games). But when you look at the talent McClaren had we should have topped the group. Maybe should have been close as Croatia had some good strength in their team. Like the guys at the end we was not angry that we lost. We were angry at the manner of how we lost. Zero fight through the whole competition and we got what we deserved.
When your only prey is for Andorra to get a goal in their game to help you qualify. That tells the story of how poor England were lol.
not rwally. Croatia didn do too much they sit there just neither dud modric did a lot to control the game. England just too shit
@@cnote2458Nope playing barry and gerrard wright philips. They are all shit players just devoid of any technique. Any jumior football fan could tell that. England had no talent. The most skilfu player was joe cole wgo can olay some decent football. Gerrard is jsut a clown thay lobs ball high eevry time. Scholes am carrick would do way better😂
@@johannsebastienbach Played shit from start to finish, yes. When you look at the squad as individuals however, you would have taken none of them for Premier League talents. What's more shocking is, they were highly sought after players at all levels of the game. It was enraging to watch, especially when we knew they'd go back to their clubs and not play shit.
Croatia and England games are always great games
Croatia should have scored 6 in that game, we weren't unlucky to lose 3-2, we were lucky it wasn't more.
Should have been 6-2 Croatia.
@@SuperTed19021 Probably, but it was 2-3! Not much!!
Thanks for the support
We?
Apparently, the goal scoring winner Petric said was that when Croatia was at the airport in London, they were treated like criminals. So this motivated them to go out there and finish the qualifying tournament with a win.
It's amazing how Terry and Ashley Cole weren't fit enough for this match but 3 days later they were both fit enough to start for Chelsea
And Gerrard too
@@Onmysheet cowards
@@Onmysheet and he scored as well
@@Onmysheet Gerrard played the fuck u talmbout
@@paul1234730 He wasn't at his best is what I'm "talmbout" 😆
I *just* love how Alan Hanson throughout his whole coverage of this game *tries* his upmost hardest to prevent his smirk.
but I have to agree with him with his comments England got what they deserved nothing.
@@classicsportclassictiyl8547 *Exactly.*
Utmost
Called the Carson error! 5:17🤣
@@MrKAKARONALDOMESSI He forgot that Alex Ferguson was manager.
The infamous Sol Campbell slide 😂 55:35
That must have been the *complete* downward slide to stake any claim that the bloke was "world class".
@@SuperTed19021He was great in his prime, but by this point he was nowhere near it.
Legend has it he's still sliding 'til this day
Obligatory "Some say he's still sliding" comment
He just keeps going 😂😂😂😂
Motson one of the best commentators of all time
He was brilliant, made so many goals even more historic. There are certain goals you think about and his commentary plays in your head straight away
Barry Davies was better so was Brain Moore, I still liked Motson though but preferred the other two, Peter Brackley was very good also..
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 Same here!
@@dylanrobb1475 Peter Brackley, *sigh!* Also Brighton born and bred.
I miss Motty he was a legend
Ty "Lets not forget it was raining"
😂 Brilliant
@Jack Mellor You’re a cheat! You’re a cheat and I hope you get relegated.
🤣
Lescott, Richards, Bridge, Carson…. Thank you Croatia, you did us a favour! Can you imagine the HUMILIATION if England had actually qualified with this team at Euro 2008?!? 😂
Yes, this was a mercy
Not to mention McLaren as manager...
Not Bridge though, he was brilliant, defensively and going forward.
Copium
Don't imagine any of them would have played much, Ashley Cole, John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Paul Robinson were all in their prime at that time. There were some injuries for this game but the likes of Cole and Terry miraculously recovered days later 😂
England would have still been abysmal at the Euro's regardless though, no real doubt about that, the Golden Generation rarely got close to living up to potential and McLaren was obviously an absolute disaster.
It's amazing how Eduardo and Olić managed to score against a 5 man denfence.
Wayne Bridge's bad positioning was what played him onside.
There were five defenders on the pitch. I think it's unfair to call that lot a "defence" on the night. They were really bad.
Olic non stop running the english defence couldn't cope with him
Eduardo didn't score
Hanson at the end .."out thought and out fought"
Shearer thinks ' I wonder if I'll ever get a chance to use that cool rhyming phrase"
hahah ^^
Sir Alan Shearer said that rant when England lost to Iceland in UEFA Euro 2016.
Hansen gets home: *LMAO* himself to sleep.
This was after Israel had done England a huge favour by beating Russia as well.
Despite England's absence, Euro 2008 was one of the most entertaining and best quality major tournaments that I've ever seen (Euro 2000 would come in first place).
Born and raised in London as a Turk.. to this day I'm always bitter that I wasn't born a few years earlier :( Only 6 years old when Turkey reached the Semis, can hardly remember anything from that tournament
@@1has9683 if it weren't for Brazil the 2002 world cup would've been fully Turkish
@@1has9683 I was 9 and supporting Croatia so I was disappointed when Turkey knocked them out. Altintop was a great player in his prime
Russia football was, at that time, the dark horse story.
In Euro 2008, even though they lost heavily to eventual champions Spain with tiki taka, they managed to stun the Netherlands that topped the group of death.
In World Cup 2018, as a host, they destroyed Saudi Arabia with 5 goals and even finally got a revenge against Spain to reach the quarterfinal.
Now, they are just a Nazi Germany looking for colonizing the nations. We want a football, not a war.
@@1has9683 I remember everything. I remember the whole "will we get a group stage penalty shootout" when the Czechs and Turks played. Also the fallout from Cech dropping the ball at 2-1 up and the talk afterwards about whether he was on the decline.
I remember when Croatia scored in the quarter final I asked my brother "how long left?" to which my brother replied "doesn't matter, it's over!"
... suffice to say Semih scored that memorable leveller and Turkey won the shootout
Great tournament!
Motty what a legend The way his voice rises with tension and drama always made me on the edge of my seat. Listen to his commentary. Brilliant
What Superb team Croatia had at Euro 2008, we won all 3 match at group stage within Germany wich was in Final later. And then lost vs very very Lucky Turkey at penalty shoutout
Yep, you should have played us(Czechia) anyway, you would have beaten us really easily I think.. Insted you got what one of the most luckiest teams ever who scored almost all of their goals with some lucky deflections or after players making schoolboy mistakes (Petr Cech)..
@@PaYaB_005 ur still salty 😂😂😂
@PaYaB_005 Czech Republic is still one of only couple of teams we (Croatia) never managed to beat at a big international competition. We drew the group games at Euro 2016 and Euro 2020. Other teams that we never can beat and played against at least twice (from the top of my head) - France (lost the WC 1998 semi, drew Euro 2004 group game and lost the 2018 WC final), Portugal (lost the group game at Euro 1996 and the Euro 2016 round of 16 game), Mexico (lost WC group games in 2002 and 2014, the latter was especially painful because it was the last group game and meant that we didn't progress to the knockout stage, also fascinating to me is that Mexico in the last 20 years or so almost always qualifies to the World Cup knockout round and then it gets eliminated immediately in the round of 16, Croatia is completely different, doesn't qualify to the knockout round everytime, but when it does it finishes the tournament with a medal).
Everything between the 2006 and 2018 World Cups was a very dark period for the England National Team.
92-95 was terrible
Everything since 1966
Classic BBC pundits... in 2006 (Croati won 1st leg 2:0) & 2007 talking about "bad english performance"... in 2018 as well... talking only about themselves... underestimating and never giving Croatia due credit... and they were beaten by world class team in all three occasions... completely detached from reality... just keep on doing that!
You're right that Ego, self-absorption (not the same as healthy confidence and self-regard, just backing oneself) and worst of all complacency are still the ruin of England nt. Until that's completely gone, we'll never win a cup.
It's a broadcast for the English public, of course it's centred on the England national team, you absolute numbskull.
1:52:35 Motty at his very best. One of the greatest commentators of all time and still missed by many ♥️
It's kinda interesting how Hansen used the phrasing "out thought and out fought", just for Shearer sitting next to him to use that exact phrasing for the Iceland game almost 10 years later.
Copped that,good shout !
Hansen is a brilliant actor, he must have been pissing himself laughing!
He must of had the *strongest* bladder and lips ever, to witness not only this, but also what was going to befall this England team in the years ahead.
One of the most dramatic, entertaining, agonising, and ecstatic commentaries made by John Motson, who a top-notch man he was during when England failed to qualify for Euro 2008 back in November 2007. Absolute ecstasy for Croatia by scoring three goals, but what an awful, agonising, and unforgivable performance by England after those defending and goalkeeping mistakes. RIP John Motson (1945-2023)
Hansen’s right. We deserved nothing. Croatia should have won by more!
Although the next qualifying campaign would be a different story.
But it lead to *zilch.* Beside, Croatia went on to achieve *speculator* results in their history/population further down the line (2nd and 3rd in two consecutive World Cups, with both featuring Luka Modric), and *one* of those was at our English expense.
@@SuperTed19021Unfortunately you are correct!
Michael Carrick was criminally underused during this era
Would’ve been brilliant at marking Modric out of the game.. Lampard and Gerrard gave him the freedom of the midfield in this game.
Ain't that the sad truth? Carrick was superb for United from the minute he arrived.
@@Mlaargaar Gerrard for England was so so poor. Some of those passes there were miles off. People forget his prime Liverpool position was in behind Torres in a 4411, with 2 world class defensive midfielders in Macherano and Alonso behind him, and very disciplined wingers, certainly in Dirk Kuyt on the right. Gerrard was almost like a striker in his prime. It's bizarre fans look back at him as this orthodox midfielder. He was under Houlier and for a bit under Benitez before Benitez could see how unreliable he was there. A great example would be the Champs league final win where Gerrard had a shocking first half in a midfield 2. 3-0 down at half time. Brings on Hamann, moves Gerrard much further forward and he has an incredible game. Gerrard moved back to DM under Rodgers when he was past his best, but only controlled games against poorer opponents. Never against the best by that point
Better coverage than nowadays
The game when England failed to qualify for the EURO 2008.
Definitely it was the rainy night on the 21st November 2007, England never made it to Euro 2008 after losing only 2-3 against Croatia! But whereas last summer, they played well to get to the finals, despite having lost in the penalties to Italy which was a bit of a shame! They should be proud of themselves for getting in the finals though!!
@@josephhall1995 It *really* was the World Cup '82 qualifying campaign all over again. Just with England at the losing end this time.
@@SuperTed19021 not to mention when England failed to qualify for 1994 World Cup
@@racerja3173 *EXACTLY!* For the same, similar reasons as this campaign. Failing to beat Macedonia at home or Israel away in 2006-07 was exactly like failing to beat Norway at home or Poland away in 1992-93, hence why we didn't qualify.
@@SuperTed19021 well at least we are dominating our euro 2024 qualifying group today
I remember this. I remember being so upset England didn’t make it, so I decided to support Spain in the tournament. Spain were utterly fantastic, and was the start of something special for Spain.
Euro 2008 is still my favourite tournament of all time. Some excellent football and matches.
Turkey were fantastic.
@@WanderingChin Turkey were great, even better than they were at euro 2000. Russia also had a good showing too, their best since 1988
You made the right choice. During this era/decade many of us EPL fans & Brits switched from supporting England to another national team, just for the pain relief. e.g. I was always a dual fan of both England & Wales' teams, but after this performance I definitely lost interest and stopped watching England for a good ten years.
@@pendafen7405 10 years in hibernation! What did you take for pain relief? Your expectations are too high. The English were always ordinary and overated. Over 80,000 screaming supporters at home!! What are they like away?
The Spanish don't want your support. Your not Spanish!! You need to go into hibernation until the English get getter.
They should've won Macedonia game in Wembley.
That is the main reason England Did fail to secure the Qualification position.
The Old Trafford game
Along with only drawing 0-0 away in Israel in March that year. Also the 0-0 against Macedonia in October the previous year like you mentioned.
My god, how trim Ian Wright used to look.
Quite Dapper too.
Still in his 30's not long after retirement.
@@br4kecheckd He was 44
@@br4kecheckdHe was pushing 30 when he signed for Arsenal in the early 90s.
Radio 5 Live was brilliant after the game.
Gerrard and Lampard in their prime getting bossed by a young Modric on their own turf
They were both amazing players but none of them were exactly ever known for their ability to control a game, so why are you commenting like it's a surprise? Both were box to box midfielders. Modric wasn't/isn't.
@@OhTylerB I’m not commentating like it’s a surprise, I know full well Luka Modric is a better footballer than either Lampard or Gerrard. I didn’t need this video to affirm it. I know Lampard and Gerrard were box to box midfielders, what’s your point? Roy Keane was a box to box midfielder, he controlled games, so was Patrick Vieira, controlled games too. None of them were as good as Modric either.
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 They're completely different players with completely different strengths, and only a simpleton would compare either of them to Modric. It's like comparing Kane to Suarez.
@@OhTylerB behave yourself, you’re perfectly entitled to compare a centre midfielder to another centre midfielder, stop being a childish know it all
@@OhTylerB Modric was better than Scholes, happy? Never call the dogsbollocksgenius a simpleton again, or even insinuate it.
The UEFA Euro 2008 qualification shouldn't came down to two games against Russia and Croatia had England had a win against Macedonia inside Old Trafford when they had a goalless draw.
When you have an over confident manager who really doesn't have a fucking clue what he is doing this is the result, McLaren thought he was going to walk into that job totally re arrange the team and win trophies.
@@nicholasweaver7809 I also remember Steve McLaren having the braggadocio to call England, "Club England," when he took the English post.
@@joesakic91 *SMFH!* PS: *Just* listen to him at 10:29.
@@nicholasweaver7809I think the big paycheqes distracted him throughout his time as manager.
@@joesakic91 The guy was an absolute clown along with Roy Hodgeson Neither of them could run a Sunday league team
It’s kind of amazing that Lineker has never managed to lose his ability to talk over people all of the time and then leave awkward silences lol.
it's his gimmick at this point
I thought his gimp's were hanson and lawrenson 😂
Modrić is the only Croatian player from this game to still actively play! Corluka and Rakitic were the last ones to retire from this squad when they both retired in 2018. Modric playing 6 years after their retirement is crazy...
Oh god this game. Don't think I've ever felt worse as an England fan honestly. Looking back now Bilic's Croatia & Hiddink's Russia were WAY better than I ever gave them credit for at the time, if I remember right both had very good Euro 2008 tournaments, but even so this felt horrible.
Iceland had nothing on this. That England team was ordinary & the manager was having mares all over the place, being embarrassed by them felt inevitable. This England team I expected better.
Yeah, this was supposed to be our "GG" or "Golden Generation".
Nothing felt as horrible as losing a euros final on penalties
@@andrewjoyce9038 I'd mentally prepared for that, got more than enough practice coping with losing on penalties as an England fan lol. Plus my club has lost a Champions League Final on penalties so wasn't new territory for me.
McLaren definitely thought Croatia (Who already qualified) would lie down. That's why he chose Carson.
it was worse at the 1988 Euros tournament.
I remember this as if it was yesterday, Beckham was my hero growing up, this match hurts me 10x more as it meant I would never see Beckham play for England in an international tournament again. How I felt when Crouch scored the equaliser was second to none, I celebrated that goal as if it was a last minute winner, I'll never forgive McClaren for this.
What about the players such as Terry, Lampard and Gerrard who let their country down by not performance? McClaren wasn't entirely at fault although we were certain to achieve nothing under him.
@@purpledragons1146John Terry wasn’t playing😂
@@danielnuttman6511 Though he was able to start for Chelsea 3 days after the decisive qualifier he wasn't even fit enough to make the squad for.
Beckham always was an overrated athlete. More of a commercial celebrity than a footballer.
@@purpledragons1146 Not much Gerrard or Lampard could do about that awful defence and goalkeeper tbf, it should have been 8-2. Plus it was common knowledge by 2007 that they couldn’t play together in midfield yet McLaren still did it.
I remember the hubris England fans and pundits showed towards this game, that it was a given victory and just a formality. Despite being an England fan I kind of enjoyed watching us get beat. We needed to be humbled as a nation. Iceland was another moment and probably the real turning point for us as a nation.
Now we tend not to underestimate teams as horrendously.
The star of this match is...the kid in front of Scott Carson singing the England national anthem. That's what you call passion! This England team could have done with him on the pitch lol.
Actually, England didn't deserve to lose the game because they came back from 2-down.
The media wanted McLaren and they got their man.
He was completely and utterly out of his depth. He had what was a decent England side playing like a League 2 side in a fourth round FA Cup tie.
Dark times.
The way Mclaren acts in the pre match interview. So relaxed, thinking England have already qualified because he thought Croatia would roll over.
@@Onmysheet That way of thinking was more likely from his assistant Terry Venables and absentee captain John Terry. Hence why we put out that disastrous starting 11. The Wally probably had *no* real thought of his own.
Very entertaining game to watch but my god England were shambolic. Drawing against the likes of Israel and Macedonia prior to this is a disgrace. Even during this game, they had absolutely no control and couldn't really maintain possession. Just hoofball up to lanky Crouch. This was a team that prioritised club football over England.
When people criticise Southgate and the current england team, I point them to the golden generation and the team prior to 2018. There's proper unity and passion in the team. We actually control games now and we qualify for tournaments comfortably. And when we get to tournaments, we actually go deep (Semis in 2018, Final in 2021 and unlucky to lose against France in QF 2022). So when we inevitably go deep in Euro 2024 and lose to France in the semis or final, look back on games like this before crying about the team.
Isreal's home record was very good in this qualifying tournament, even though England should've sneaked a win. The home game against Macedonia was the match that cost them qualification.
Unlucky loss to France? So, am I to guess there is such a thing as a "lucky loss" or maybe an "unlucky win"?
@@damirblazevic4823Kane missed a penalty. Luck had nothing to do with that.
@@Onmysheet I agree
Southgate's England didn't control anything
That was a great match and a great day for Croatia.
For Russia was even better.
Euro 2008 as a whole was given a *massive* favour. The only ones for feel sorry for was Israel (with that excellent win against Russia proving all in vain).
Few things I remember about this game (as a Croat):
After winning the first match 2:0, entire England kept talking how a huge disgrace was to loose (although I agree on that comic own goal), almost like loosing from San Marino
Before this match, english media started talking how Russians promised Croatian football federation a ton of money, cars etc if they win (never happened) and that they'll play for Russia.
Rusians worrying that Croatia won't play at their 100% as already being qualified and Cro answering to both how they play for themselves, not England, not Russia.
English pundits saying how England is better at literally everything and that England needs to beat by several goals as a payback for first game.
Cro players being treated almost like illegals at the airport.
All of that pretty much motivated cro players to hell and back.
After the game, English media proclaiming Lampard as Motm, noone knows why, without penalty you wouldn't even know the was there.
And after McClaren was sacked, media writing to whoever becoms new selector rules that he has to follow and one of them that England MUST ALWAYS PLAY IN 4-4-2
"They don't get much lower than this". Iceland 2016: "hold my beer!"
Hansen "They were out thought, out played, out fought" didn't Shearer repeat these words after Iceland game??
@@manuelrodriguez2637 *More or less.*
The amount of aimless long balls England play...
The current England team is definitely better.
There were pundits at the time saying the England team can only play Premier league style football
I.e. Get the ball and attack get it forward quickly.
International football you need more patience and keep the ball
well when corouch is your striker what else you gonna do.
*Yep!* But the system is as much to blame as the players. Was then and is now.
@@tadhglattimore2439 Hoof it to crouch? Was that the gameplan?
@@leemc5646 The midfield back then didn't like tight spaces. That England squad were never favorites to win tournaments. The current England team is superior.
When england could not pass the ball simply 5 yards with out hitting it too hard or slow, and the player receiving could not control it with out the ball bubbling or doing a bad touc, only hoof ball was their identity.
Got to say they improved now, and can play like rest of the world
Your acting like England never knew how to play good football. They had some excellent teams in the 66, 86, 90 and 96 playing all out attacking football. This team simply didn’t gel because of club rivalry’s and poor management from McLaren and then Capello. The next England fans think of criticising Southgate, they should come back and watch this video. Not since the early 00s has the England team been more settled
@@oracle8589 Yes but his point was about the ability to pass a ball and he is right. Go back to the days of 90 and 96 and 86 - statistically, the amount of completed England passes is far less than what it is today. They'd complete maybe 4 or 5 passes before losing the ball or trying a long ball. Football has evolved since then. Even the GErmans complete more passes now than they used to. But it has taken England much longer to be able to do it.
@@oracle8589 Southgate has the benefit of managing players who work under elite world-class European coaches, so they walk in the door of SGP with passing game. His job is rather easy once he's got the lads on his side and working together.
@@oracle8589 Lol 66 did NOT play attacking football, set a record for fewest goals scored by a champion, one of only a few who finished below 2 goals per match because their players have never been very talented, but make up for it with organization and discipline
@Dead-Ball-Situation The England from 2003 - 2016 were awful tactically. They had the players but still couldn't make it work, especially in 2006 - 2008.
RIP John Motson
The way McClaren scurries down the tunnel afterwards as well - truly a wally with the brolly
Don’t play to the media dude,that’s what ruins the England team ! 🇮🇪
@@shanet5604 *AGREED!*
The Wembley pitch really was terrible in the first couple of years. Took them a while to sort it out properly.
It’s a lot better today
But *why* on that day it was not troubling the already-qualified Croats one bit?
Iconic game and moment for my generation of England fans. 22 year olds today wouldnt even conceive of us not qualifying for a tournament.
Can thank the system they finally put it place for the kids for that. 20 yrs later we see the results. We looked at our fierce enemies and took what they did. Now we have replaced them, other than the trophys that is.
@@godseye13k'other than the trophies that is' being the issue, so you HAVEN'T replicated what the Germans, Italians, Brazilians etc do !
@@MegaDeansy the f u talking about.
@@MegaDeansy I was on about yhe young players and the training they were given. And in that case we have matched and now bettered them. The f u on about. Having your own chat with yourself. Not even reading what i was on about. F youtube for ya. Full of clowns.
We had a gig this night in a pub. We played to 3 people. We even postponed it until after the match. I watched the game. Painful!
This game imo shuts down the idea that England not winning anything in this period was down to them simply not being good enough.
Loads of these players ended their careers with Premier league and champions league medals, yet they couldn't even qualify for the euros?
Definitely something wrong with their attitude...
The pressure and expectation at that time was too much.
Their club managers evolved tactically but the England managers were still playing a rigid 4-4-2 most of the time.
Beckham had too much influence and was undroppable for a long time.
@@leemc5646 "Beckham had too much influence and was undroppable for a long time."
If Beckham hadn't come on at half time England would've lost 3+ - 0. The only player with any passion for the national team in this period, when you consider players like Terry and Cole stayed at home.
@@TPH250290 *What difference would that make if Croatia beat us 4, 5, 6 to nil,* (which they should have have done anyway)? England didn't deserve anything from this match and it was a blessing that really we didn't qualify for that tournament. If we have kept it to a drew and gone through, it would have been an *complete* injustice to Croatia to how they handled the game and played and how we performed. If we really deserved a place at Euro 2008, we *should not* have drawn at Israel away and Macedonia at home. Also, despite his passion that night, Becks made poor judgement in marking for Croatia's winning goal and it was his influence again that made Capello's reign crash and burn that came after this, not to mention good-old 4-4-2 and media/FA pressure.
@@SuperTed19021 You're responding to things I never argued.
They won those accolades surrounded by talented foreign counterparts. To this day, it’s the foreign talent that gives the EPL its status. This England were mediocre and so were their results. Current England squad have a lot to prove and conquer
Young Rakitic was on the bench Modric and Dudu on the field..
It's up there with:
1-Norway beating England 1981
2-Holland beating England 1993
3-Iceland beating England 2016
The defeat against Netherlands was not a shocking because at that time they still had some world class players like Ronald Koeman and Dennis Bergkamp. However, I will still consider that 0-2 loss as humiliating because a win must be required for England to keep them alive. The last game against San Marino is meaningless because had Serenissima didn't score the shocking goal, England are still failed to qualify if they lost to Dutch side.
@@ezraezra2928 What about losing 2-0 away to Norway in that same campaign? And the Norwegians back then had hardly any world class players.
Where is that 1950 usa win over England 😂
Non of these are 2x medalist from WC, and 2nd most sucessfull nation after France in last 30 years... England was a serious underdog here ❤
Iceland has got to be the worst one, that was basically the equivalent of a Premier League side losing to a semi professional part time team in the FA Cup.
The fact that it was an all English CL final 6 months later..............Still couldn't get over this match
Club football in 2007 as today was dominated by foreign players, coaches & in certain cases foreign money... can't compare with International football... If you go back far enough (70s & 80s) then it gets crazy... English club teams (British players) dominating in Europe yet England won nothing in the 80s (not even Semi appearances) & didn't qualify for two World Cups in the 70s
Fun Fact: The Champions League Final was held in Moscow at that time. England lost 1-2 to Russia in the qualifying match away. It's so crazy how they got an all-English Final six months later in the same venue where they got embarrassed by the Russians.
But Zenit Saint Petersburg, a Russian club, won the UEFA Cup, with the Final taking place in current Manchester City's Etihad Stadium at that time.
Great atmosphere and also excellent commentary.
The 2007-2016 era was so bad
Not qualifying for Euro 2008
Not getting out of the group stage in Brazil 2014
Losing to Iceland at Euro 2016
Not to mention being outplayed by Germany in 2010 and Italy in 2012 (we were lucky it went to pens tbh)
@@ThatBritishSnep Lampard’s goal being disallowed when it clearly crossed the line
@@racerja3173 Still angry at that now
@@ThatBritishSnep same here pal
And Big Sam lasting one game before having to leave. Okay Southgate is not a football genius but people seem to forget just how terrible England were for pretty much a decade before he took over.
How poor was England midfield this game? Down 3-2 with 14 mins left and couldn't get control of the ball. Gerrard and Lampard were a disaster in the last 10 minutes . 11 years after this game and Croatia led by Modric destroyed England midfield again. Kinda funny
You know we beat them in 2009 5-1 and stopped them going to the World Cup right? and we beat them at Euro 2020 as well
@@longplayVHS you didn't stop England qualifying for South Africa although looking back would've been better.
@@longplayVHS and lost in semi 2018 😄
@@JC-mj3ss still won as much as Croatia that year :)
@@longplayVHShappened cause Capello detected immediately Croatia's biggest problem at that time and that was the lack of even decent left fullback. Šimunić who played in this game was a centre back, Babić (on the bench) was a left misfielder and later Pranjić was a midfielder (even winger at Herenveen) before that. Cappelo put the fastest player on right wing (first wallcot and then lennon), took all of his good passers on the left side (gerrard I believe) who would then send long balls on the right wing. 9 goals in 2 games and 8 of them came from that. Croatia just didn't have the player on the left who could defend 1v1 a skilled dribler
Beckham's cross was ridonculous to be fair.
Honestly, the English defending was shambolic. Probably the effect of not using Michael Carrick at all in the defensive midfield position and then the likes of John Terry, Rio Ferdinand and Ashley Cole not even playing. I remember this was a big deal that England failed to make a major tournament, there was such an outcry in 2007 and who knows what England might have done at had they even qualified for Euro 2008 because the Golden Generation was certainly on their last legs.
well Golden generation played WC 2010, so they were in theory al at their peak in 2008.
@Tadhg Lattimore I mean 2010 they lost all momentum with the Wayne Rooney injury before the World Cup and then Robert Green blunder in the first game shot all sort of confidence in that team
@@tashrif46 that doesnt make any sense.
How can you lose all momentum because of an injury to one player.
France lost multiple players this world cup and were still mentally strong.
And as for greens mistake, one gk mistake cannot make a whole team lose confidence they made it through the group.
They lost momentum because they shrink in the limelight and play with no courage.
They had more than enough quality to do well in both tournaments.
They were mentally weak from the start waiting for a mistake or injustice to blame.
@Tadhg Lattimore well thats a credit for France and Didier Deschamps that they didn't. But England relied on Wayne Rooney for goals and it was clear that he was nowhere near 100%. And after that Green mistake, they lost all confidence. The evidence is in their performance, they played safe and not to lose. Dont ask me why.
If England had got to euro 2008 they would've gone out to the first decent team they played just like every other tournament since.
Croatia played confident and relaxed. England couldn't quite find their groove. The penalty given was a soft one while the second goal was well taken.
Yeah, they were terrible on that day. They were utter shit when they lost 2-3 to Croatia and never made it to Euro 2008... Shocking when Steve McClaren lost his job as England manager and the infamous Italian football manager, Fabio Capello took over the team long before Gareth Southgate!
@@josephhall1995 You must remember *how* lacking the "Golden Generation" of the England national football team was. No goalkeepers, no strikers makes a lot. Doesn't matter how many stars/names you fit into a squad.
@@SuperTed19021 perhaps I will have to remember the golden generation…
@@josephhall1995 Which was in 1966 *only!*
Shame England didn't qualify. That year England had the best team who's players were at their peak.
Englands penalty was spotted by the linesman, whistled by the referee, lamprad stepped up and scored it all of this in under 30 seconds. Fast forward to 2024, penalty takes anything from 8 minutes to be confirmed or denied. The once was a beautiful sport.
It’s funny how the pundits are exactly the same 17 years later
That has to be one of the worst England teams we’ve put out in a game of importantance, we shouldn’t have been surprised at the result tbh.
😅😅😅😅 worst Englad team just look at a names😅😅😅
That pass from Beckham was buttery smooth.
Here after the Euro 2024 Denmark game and you could play the same match analysis and it would still apply!
Forgot just how good of a pundit Hansen was, spoke alot of sense with real authority.
And how he also managed also to keep his clean trousers dry throughout without p***ing himself.
In 2010, he says live on air that Germany are average in the pre match analysis.
This was of course the match that of course cost us qualification for Euro 2008, but look at how far we've come since then
The whole 2007-2016 era was just a horrible slog. We are so much better now, with a semi final and final, and people still moan at them lol
@@andoholloway5343 yes with the worst moment after this one being the 2014 World Cup
Personally I think its losing to Iceland in Euro 16
@@andoholloway5343 yes I agree
@@andoholloway5343 the Iceland result was finally the turning point for England
This match is a really good example of Gerrard and Lampard's limitations as midfielders. Gerrard is all blood and thunder and no composure; whenever he gets the ball he immediately looks for a Hollywood ball, never taking control of the game or trying to dictate the pace, just hit and hope. Lampard meanwhile let's the game completely pass him by; doesn't offer himself for the ball to try to playmake, nor does he play up close to crouch to use his goalscoring instinct. Both of them were great in existing systems that played to their strengths, but neither of them were ever the truly complete midfielders people claim.
Which is why England should have used Carrick more often.
@@Nightopian1982 *AGREED!*
What *might* have happened if you used Hargreaves or/and Carrick instead of these two *at least* 2 years prior. Or just have Lampard on as an attacking sticker at least, with means *no* room for Gerrard.
PS: Gerrard just passed his baton onto Rooney then, *the* English Pirlo whilst he played his 120 caps for England. 🙄 *GOD.*
The good old days of male pundits and commentators, no token guests
Micah Richards is just a laugh box without any idea what he's laughing at. He's not there for expertise, he's there to be annoying like Roy Keane is.
mate this commentary is dry af, just old drab men droning on
modric as a teen made gerrard look so silly lol. Levels to the game.
People talk about gerrard/Lampard/Scholes, the best two midfielders to play in the PL are Modric and De Bruyne, different class
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 modric didnt play in England long enough
@@seanpadraigobrien1260 he didn’t leave spurs till he was about 27/28. He was brilliant at spurs, the English media just didn’t realise how good he was
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 you must have a short memory
@@tadhglattimore2439 of what?
What did you expect from a cb pairing of Cambpell and Lescott in hindsight. Not saying any of them were bad but that was such a odd and random cb pairing
McClaren got too many big decisions wrong in this game. Starting Carson at his age. No experience on an awful pitch. He had James with tonnes of experience on the bench. He's played Crouch who thrives on crosses into the box and he's benched possibly the best crosser of a ball in football history in Beckham. 2 huge decisions, and he got them both wrong.
It was probably more likely his assistant manager Terry Venables and his absentee captain John Terry that made those shit decisions and McClaren just went along with the two of them. *SMFH!*
In 2006, I actually placed a bet on England to not qualify from this group. I just thought Croatia, Russia and Israel would be tough opponents for them and they were being under estimated (typical pundits) IMO. Anyway, I put £10 at 11/2. I actually thought they were quite short odds and remember feeling disappointed. Still, I placed the bet and 15 months later, collected my winnings. Also, every time I watch back these games/highlights, when England got knocked out - the pundits have always been over confident about England winning the game. The ultimate kiss of death.
Did you predict for them to qualfy for the 2010 World Cup at least lol
what did you spend your winnings on lad
How much did you win?
@@pendafen7405booze, what else...
You must have been *well chuffed!*
1. England were gifted another chance to qualify by the freak result of Israel beating Russia.
2. England only needed a draw.
3. Croatia had already qualified.
BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD
Mclaren thought Croatia would roll over. The team probably thought it too, which is why their form was all over the place.
Those who lived through 1996 will know we will never see those times again. That world was like a diff planet to this one.
Terrible managing from McLaren here. He chose Carson in goal over James who had more experience, which Croatia took advantage of. Why pick Carson in such a crucial game?
James was a terrible keeper but Carson was shaky as f**k
@@leemc5646 All keepers make mistakes in their careers but Carson was bound to be nervy on a soggy pitch.
@@leemc5646 then came the world class (🤣🤣) Robert Green 🙈🙈
@@Scottfree166 Why the so-called Golden Generation couldn't achieve zit. *NO GOALKEEPERS!*
it was more *probably* Terry Venables (his assistant manager) and John Terry (his absentee captain) behind those. Steve McClaren just probably went along with those two.
Frank Lampard made his ENG debut under Keegan vs Belgium at the tail-end of '99
@@MrKAKARONALDOMESSI When we robbed Scotland of a place in Euro 2000? Not to mention it would have done that tournament *as much* of a favour as this did.
This was a very good group of players croatia had then. Even recently the midfield of Modric rakitic and kovacic was arguably the best in the world
Kovacic was never a starter while Rakitic was there..Croatia usually played Brozovic or even Badelj behind Modric and Rakitic
But sky *really will* be the limit in 11-15 years time! 💕👏 PS: Luka Modric. *WHAT A PLAYER!* If *only* we over here in England had trained and neutered Paul Gascoigne the same way during the 1990s decade.
Croatia 4milion people. London at least 3 times more. I am Croatian. What hurts is that bit of arogance...english media, some players too. I forgive all, I have many good frieds in UK. Just... guys stop it. love
England not uk
*Ouch, don't say UK!* Scotland came *incredibly* close to qualifying for Euro 2008 in that same qualifying campaign with a *much* harder group (France, Italy and Ukraine). Same with Northern Ireland (Spain, Denmark and Sweden). Both with much lower populations and players available. I also remember Scotland got *unbelievably* robbed against Italy at Hampden in the dying minutes of that final qualifying game. It was only England that stunk that QC out whilst Wales was in translation (e.g. the starting emergence of the Bale/Ramsey era).
I also remember going to watch this match at a pub with my Dad and his best mate, but I was so ill that night my mum had to pick me up and take me home
Ian Wright was simply an awful pundit, man is a blithering idiot
"I AIN'T GOT NUFFINK TO SAY LINKS"
Who is here after England lost to Iceland?
Yep, wanted to bathe in failure for a bit 😂 but the players we have today are so much better than we had, then, so no excuse for the woeful performance tonight
@@davidmusic824 Blame all the current tactics that we are using into why this current generation is getting wasted.
@@davidmusic824Are they, though?
Those having a go at Gareth Southgate after his resignation today need to come back to this match and show him some bloody respect.
*AGREED!* 👏👏
🛎 🔚
And the Iceland game
Gareth Southgate might be a very conservative, gunshy boss, but he saw England gone much deeper into tournaments with four Top Four finishes as Three Lions manager: 2018 FIFA World Cup Fourth Place, 2018-19 UEFA Nations League Third Place, UEFA Euro 2020/21 and 2024 runners-up.
The likes of Sven-Goran Eriksson, Steve McLaren, Fabio Capello, and Roy Hodgson didn't even come close.
McLaren had to go after this disastrous performance. I could never understand why he jettisoned Paul Robinson so quickly, who had done well in goal before making one bad mistake in the away defeat to Croatia. Bringing in Scott Carson for this game certainly didn't work.
Agreed. I thought England looked pretty solid with him in goal. And it wasn’t even really a mistake in the away game, it was just a freak goal.
It’s like a game from a whole different era. For those who weren’t around, this is an education. This is how dreadful England used to be sometimes. Carson in the first half looked like someone who had won a competition to play for England. The tactics for the whole game were horrid as well. McLaren had England playing like a Non league side with all of the long balls up to Peter Crouch. (probably the only England player here who put in a shift!)
Is that the reason why he dropped him? A game that happened a year ago!
When people moan about Southgate I think back to these days, love him or hate him he’s brought us a long way. Tactically in this game there was not a clue, players look void of passion or interest. Great players in the squad.
Southgate is worse tactically. He's just managing a much better England talent pool and has got an insane amount of luck with draws. Not to mention the overall standard of other international sides has dropped.
Still remember this game like it was yesterday. Mad times
Before Southgate came in England were a shambles not qualifying for the 1994 World Cup, failed to qualify for euro 2008, didn’t get out of the group in Brazil 2014 and the biggest one was losing to Iceland at euro 2016
@@racerja3173Getting ass whooped by Germany 4-1.
@@Onmysheet yep that’s right
a beautiful example of when the favorites really trash the underdogs. britain never had a chance against croatia.
Britain?
Archaic tactics from McLaren, just hit towards Crouch and hope.
The players and the coaching system were also to blame.
As much as I think it maybe time for Southgate to move on, its worth remembering just how dire things were in the past and this really was a low point, ha!
I agree, we should criticise Southgate when he gets it wrong, but his tenure overall has been poles apart from what we used to sit through under failed England managers like Hodgson, Capello, and McLaren. England nowadays get booed off at half time by some of the younger fans when they’re not battering the other team, which shows how far England have come because they used to be a lot lot worse.
Is Modric the only person thats still playing today. 🤔🤔🤔 out of all the 22.
Modrić is the only Croatian player from this game to still actively play! Corluka and Rakitic were the last ones to retire from this squad when they both retired in 2018. Modric playing 6 years after their retirement is crazy...
Rakitić still plays in Saudi Arabia. He retired from national team but not club level