2 Seasons Later: Pirelli Scorpion XC RC 29 X 2.4 Review - Is It Worth It?

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
  • Long term review! 2 seasons later - the (now) well known #Pirelli #Scorpion XC RC #tires, 29 x 2.4, introduced right before the Olympic Games in Tokyo. They use motorsport-derived tech to provide surprising performance. How well do they last? Let's take a look
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    00:00 Intro - 2 seasons later
    00:19 Scorpion XC RC Lite and ProWALL
    01:22 Set #1 - XC RC 2.4, ProWALL
    01:58 Set #2 - XC RC ProWall and LITE
    02:52 Set #3 - XC RC 2.3 ProWall and LITE
    03:31 Conclusions, best XC Tire!?
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  • @rianmehling2918
    @rianmehling2918 Місяць тому +2

    As always, I appreciate your research and experimentation.
    Following your lead from the original video, running the exact same setup.
    Great grip and XC Racing light, two thumbs up!

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Thanks for sharing your experience🤘

  • @eddyfusely503
    @eddyfusely503 Місяць тому +1

    Great to hear. I still need to install mine but probably won’t until the current tires need to be replaced

  • @BikeMageSuspensionUpgrades
    @BikeMageSuspensionUpgrades Місяць тому +1

    Great vid! Might be my next set!

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Good choice! And we can talk about it if you're on the fence😏

  • @LexaBukreev
    @LexaBukreev Місяць тому +1

    I put them on my XC bike this spring. One XCM and two XCO were already done with them and i am super happy how they perform! Highly recomended tyre

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Yup, pretty much our experience!

  • @finroddd
    @finroddd Місяць тому +1

    I am using Scorpion Enduro S - no issues so far, feels very stable.

  • @ilidiofaria
    @ilidiofaria Місяць тому +1

    I’m using Pirelli Scorpion for the last month and I’m very happy overall.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @BOys85
    @BOys85 Місяць тому +1

    My favorite XC tire! Depends on the course , XCRC F/R or Scorpion M front and xcrc Rear very good combo :)

  • @chadbouterse8617
    @chadbouterse8617 Місяць тому +3

    I switched to these from schwalbe after seeing your first video on them. Loved the performance, but had a large tear (1-2 inches) in the center of the tread on two separate tires. Both resulted in hike-a-biking out of the trail. The first time I thought there must have been a piece of metal in the trail. Ive been riding MTB for 25 years and never seen a tear like that. When it happened again 2 months later, I went back to the racing ralphs…

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Tough exxperience for you I would say. We were on Schwalbe prior to this and for us, never again if these are available.

    • @chadbouterse8617
      @chadbouterse8617 Місяць тому +1

      Forgot to mention I love the channel and the content!

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      @@chadbouterse8617 thank you ☺️

  • @David_S21
    @David_S21 Місяць тому +1

    Me and my son always use schwalbe Racing ralph and Racing ray and thunder Burt in the warmer season, but we'll be giving these a go shortly

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      We used to use those same tires....curios what you think after trying these!

  • @user-tb7rb6lt3d
    @user-tb7rb6lt3d Місяць тому +1

    They look good, i was looking at the hutchinsons too, they seem good also, the big players don't always make good tyres in the mtb market, i wish IRC tyres were still easily availiable like back in the old days, great tyres

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Good enough that the TREK world cup teams use these as oposed to their own Bontrager. Wonder if they will switch back with the launch of their redesigned/ rebranded line of tires?

  • @davidv6803
    @davidv6803 Місяць тому +7

    BicycleRollingResistance does not recommend these based on high rolling resistance but I'm glad you're happy with them in real-world conditions.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +2

      You know how it is with lab tests...they are the starting point for more tests :)

    • @fra93ilgrande
      @fra93ilgrande Місяць тому +2

      And that’s exactly what I love about them, their grip is AMAZING even in the wet

    • @dominicbritt
      @dominicbritt Місяць тому +3

      It’s a MTB tyre… rolling resistance is way down the priority list…

    • @steveschurr5967
      @steveschurr5967 Місяць тому

      Next to the tire manufacturers testing equipment Bicycle Rolling Resistance isn't very credible. Manufacturers all say the same thing. You can't test rolling resistance on a steel drum and that is extra true for off pavement tires. If the testing was a reliable indicator of rolling resistance, the highest rated tires' manufacturers would all be advertising on the site, or using BRR's conclusion in their own marketing.
      Watch a you tube tour of one of the major tire companies facilities. They do much more extensive testing in much more controlled environments. They also ride them in real life conditions for the particular type of tire being tested using consistant power outputs. You can also get a good idea by watching what tires the pros actually use. Even if those riders are sponsored, you can still see which tire they use from their particular sponsor"s tire line up.
      BRR is great for getting an idea about certain tires, and at times they do offer a good and insightful point in their narrative about a particular tire, but, take it with a grain of salt.They test only a limited number of tires with testing equipment they created, It isn't really science.

    • @SixGunTodd
      @SixGunTodd Місяць тому +1

      ​@@dominicbrittfor some perhaps....but ever ride ultra endurance ? 60-100 miles on a slow tire will absolutely kill stamina.

  • @donnovicki9771
    @donnovicki9771 Місяць тому +3

    No experience with Pirelli, however they do make a heck of a calendar......cheers

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Haha yeah, Italian love 😎

  • @manseliasson
    @manseliasson Місяць тому +1

    You have to try the new aspen and aspen st with 170tpi.
    Love your videos :)

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      I e seen the new Aspens and talked to people that replaced them rather quickly. And I have the old Aspens. So nah😊

  • @fra93ilgrande
    @fra93ilgrande Місяць тому +1

    It’s been almost a year since I got them, still perfect 😎 almost no signs of wear yet

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Happy trails!

  • @MTB_CRZY
    @MTB_CRZY Місяць тому +1

    I loved my Hutchinson tires from the French! I use the Kraken up front and the skeleton in the rear. They have a nice layered sidewall for protection, very decent tread pattern for traction in most conditions (not super great in very wet conditions) and they are pretty light weight. The only bad part about them is that they dont sell them anywhere here in the US so youd have to buy them over seas and have them shipped to the US/Canada.
    Thought about getting some XC RC tires but now im really excited about the new Bontrager tires coming out with 220tpi casings! Id love to have you review them when you get a chance to snag some :)

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      I hear you, I know a thing or two about availability of parts on this side of the pond. As for the 220 tpi….i know people that used the 170 Aspens and declared that they are race only, not worth it. Back to 120 and 60 tpi.
      Let me know if you try them I’m curious about the new Bontis also

    • @1986mancini
      @1986mancini Місяць тому +2

      I'm about to test the new Hutchinson python race , weight on my scale was 605g

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      @@1986mancini that’s great weight what casing ?

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker Місяць тому +1

    Obviously the wear and tear is subjective to the trails you frequently ride and your riding style. That XC type of tire would probably get chewed up pretty quickly on my local trails. The closest type of tire I used was the Schwalbe Racing Ralph XC tires, this was before I started using CushCore inserts and those were clapped out after a couple of weeks. BTW, I love the Berd Spoke wheels. I just ordered another set. They’re amazing!

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      Oh yeah trails one rides would make a huge difference in tire selection. As for the BERD wheels...they are the real deal aren't they?? 😎

  • @benmillns8976
    @benmillns8976 Місяць тому +1

    I'm very tempted by these but I think I'd want something a little more aggressive on the front.
    I'm currently using the Michelin XC2 tyres - 2.35 Wild measures 2.44 up front and 2.25 force measures 2.35 on the rear.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      Take a look at these other Pirellis - ua-cam.com/video/8WEtS_HgyhU/v-deo.html

  • @rodrigofuentes6324
    @rodrigofuentes6324 Місяць тому +3

    they are highly recommending kenda and specialized tires, any thoughts or future reviews ?

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      I’ll see what I can do 😉

  • @bertusbob
    @bertusbob Місяць тому +1

    Pirelli Scorpion, for me the best..

  • @ardent5153
    @ardent5153 Місяць тому +1

    My favorite tyres for XC a Vittoria Mezcal and Vittoria Barzo.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Yeah have an older review of that combo!

    • @1986mancini
      @1986mancini Місяць тому +1

      I like mezcal as a front tire but it does plug with mud

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      @@1986mancini I liked the Barzo/ Mescal combo, Barzo is much better in clearing mud

  • @andrewsiasparks
    @andrewsiasparks Місяць тому +1

    I don't race but I run Goodyear Newton and escape on my trail bike and Schwelbe Big Ben on my jump/ street MTB bikes

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak Місяць тому +1

    What was the casing width and what rim width are you using? I'm tired of trying to ride 2.4 tires only to find they're under 2.3.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Check the description for the full initial review w weights and dimensions. They are big

  • @1986mancini
    @1986mancini Місяць тому +1

    Pirelli Scorpion m lite casing still my all time favourite front tire but to slow as a rear

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Interesting, what do you use in the back with this front?

  • @jespersrensen2919
    @jespersrensen2919 Місяць тому +1

    run Maxis Minion DHF front, and Goodyear JET XC rear... had Maxxis Aggressor rear but they were hard to get up to speed (very grippy) JET XC is fast and durable, but not the most puncture resistant (trade off??!)

  • @amaridev
    @amaridev Місяць тому

    Can't decide between racing ralph / racing ray and those xc rcs. Do they feel still fast when you ride parts of pavement in between or to/from trails?

    • @1986mancini
      @1986mancini Місяць тому +1

      Schwables are faster on pavement. Schwables very good for rear tire, pirelli much better as front tire.

  • @bartoszgaudyn6801
    @bartoszgaudyn6801 26 днів тому +1

    Hi! I ride on paved forest paths with an electric bike. Currently on the front I have: Maxxis Minion DHF, 3C, Maxterra, EXO+, TR, 29" x 2.5" WT and Maxxis Minion DHR II, 3C, Maxterra, EXO+, TR, 29" x 2.4" WT. I think this tire is too aggressive for my routes. I'm thinking about changing to Vittoria Mezcal 2.35 or PIRELLI SCORPION 2.4. Do you think these tires will be suitable for eMTB on forest paths?

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  25 днів тому

      If it is just a forest path why not go Dissector front and REKON rear? Just a thought.

  • @AndreLaurentMTB
    @AndreLaurentMTB Місяць тому +1

    Good they worked for you for so long. I have bailed on both pro walk xc within a year of starting use. They kept working but after 3 or 4 months of my heavy use they noticeably lose grip in hard cornering under loose dry or dusty conditions and do NOT work well in the colder wet conditions of late fall or early spring... IMHO not worth the money for the duration of use & can't trust the grip as they wear.. I have retired both tires with 50% or more tread left...

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Late fall and early spring we use different tires, these are what they’re meant to be for dry but have predictable grip in wet-ish conditions.
      What are you using instead?

    • @AndreLaurentMTB
      @AndreLaurentMTB Місяць тому +1

      @@LoveMTB my normal tires are Maxxis Forekaster front and specialized ground control T5 rear. However, I'm testing Michelin Enduro wild front magi-x2 & gum-x rear for gravely, dry, dusty conditions. We'll see how they handle this season...

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      @@AndreLaurentMTB got it, good choices. But those tires, all of them are in a different league vs XC RC that were launched for XC races at the Olympic Games in Tokyo

    • @AndreLaurentMTB
      @AndreLaurentMTB Місяць тому +1

      @@LoveMTB that's always the issue. What are your riding conditions. Trying to find an all round tire is difficult and swapping tires is asking for trouble and hard work.
      Too many people ride southern Ontario 90% XC type trails work DH rated, heavy as hell tires or super light XC racing tires that get shredded on the first rock garden they encounter.... Taking the time to review your tires and where/when they are appropriate is appreciated...

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      @@AndreLaurentMTB 💯 agree way way too many DHR/DHF for the terrain we ride.
      We are fortunate to have different wheels/ bikes for trail riding and fun so we can park the XC racing bikes

  • @aeroplan6664
    @aeroplan6664 Місяць тому +1

    Im interesting how its looks like with comparison to raceking black chili?

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      Unfortunately don’t have any in hand but this will corner way better in all kind of conditions due to that pronounced cornering knobs

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius Місяць тому

    My own research has proven many times that running low psi in low traction tires doesn't have any benefit, I'd say it's a recipe for slowness and lack of confidence in rocky parts. That's just an opinion 😊

  • @stoneysanders628
    @stoneysanders628 Місяць тому +1

    I find it "funny" that you use the lighter tire on the rear. Most would recommend running the heavier, reinforced tire on the rear.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      There is a logic to it😊
      Lighter sidewalks provide better rolling resistance but they are not as stiff and can fold. So that’s when the insert comes in, stabilizes the sidewalk and protects the rim. Higher pressure on rear vs front also so front with ProWall is stable enough without the insert. There you have it

  • @sergioq.4005
    @sergioq.4005 Місяць тому +1

    Por el precio que pagamos deberían durar mucho más

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому +1

      Ellos duran mucho más que Schwalbe, lo sé mucho!

    • @sergioq.4005
      @sergioq.4005 Місяць тому +1

      A​@@LoveMTBAún así nos cobran demasiado.

  • @nicholkid
    @nicholkid Місяць тому +1

    I'm sold on trying these but they are hard to find for sale without ordering from weird sites. Also when I do see them in Canada they are $120 😮. I'll probably stick with specialized tires for almost half.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      I know what you mean hard to find around here or always expensive 😩

    • @nicholkid
      @nicholkid Місяць тому +1

      For the record, I found them on bikeinn for $170 cad for 2, all in cost. Apparently the prices are legit on that site. Crazy shipping price, but the total is still cheaper than most other tire options.

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      @@nicholkid pretty much what I got them for from BI as well as

  • @thomassrensen2141
    @thomassrensen2141 Місяць тому +1

    I do not understand why they put yellow text on the side wall of the tires.
    Not everyone wants to have big bright advertising on their bikes

    • @LoveMTB
      @LoveMTB  Місяць тому

      They have the silver version of most tires also 😉

    • @ArdianSutarjan
      @ArdianSutarjan Місяць тому

      Pirelli tires are already famous for being used in Formula 1 races, so more people like the big bright advertising
      Companies prioritize the majority of people