Fibreglassing the deck/how to use Peel ply?! Fairing the hull of our 40ft wooden sailing boat (EP59)
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
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I call it awesome, you guys are the best… do not ever underestimate how great you are doing!
Ah thankyou! So kind of you to say so, really appreciate it!
Thanks for keeping us abreast of the goings on. One day when you're sailing somewhere lovely, and having boat drinks you can look back on all of this, smile, and say, never again. :)
Yes very true! It’ll all be but a fond memory soon enough!
I'm really liking the marriage of new and traditional. My 1939 Alden was expected to live 15 years. Yours could easily get passed on to another generation.
Yeah exactly! Well put also, a marriage of new and traditional, we like that! Haha
I noticed someone’s post suggesting that the sander could be suspended on bungee cords
An extension of that thought is to suspend the sander from a cord via an overhead pulley and counter weights
Maybe a combination of cord and bungee cords. May be a MacGyver situation that you can ponder. Anyhow, love your channel, project and all the characters. Best wishes 😊😊😊
Yes a good idea thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the vids.
Cheers
Happy are those who dream dreams and are ready to pay the price to make them come true
Yes exactly right! Only one life
Glad you’re happy with the peel ply, what a neat invention, but yeah, one use only, damnit! I totally felt your pain faring the hull, hope the smaller one works out well. Great episode, thanks so much!
Yeah it’s sad but so nice to use! Glad you’re enjoying the update! Cheers
It cannot be overstated how uncomfortable this stage of the build is,sanding and fairing the hull is torture on the body.Thank you for sharing another great video with us!
Yep! Hard times ahead but still quite rewarding!
More huge moments!
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Keep chipping away guys.
Loving what you do.🙂
Thanks! Big days ahead but a lot of satisfaction! Cheers
Beautiful hull shape.
Thanks! We really like it too haha
Nice work guys. 👍
Thanks!!
A dog and a duck in zen meditation ❤
Yep exactly!!
You can get more than one use , it's good for several times , it's not cheap , but the savings in time and sanding makes it worth it ❤
Oh really?? Cool! Thanks
Reach out to the Duracell project, he is a master at glassing and he is great guy who will gladly help in any way.
Last night I was trying to sleep and I thought of your channel. What is the name of it, I said tom my self. How about "boat by the water"? Bingo, I go to my computer and there you are; "Boat by the River". I have been missing your great teamwork. Keep it up, don't loose heart, the best is yet to come.
Old sailor Charley
Hey Charley, a good idea! Duracell are defiantly the pros when it comes to fibreglassing! Glad you found us again! Thanks
As a person with a lousy shoulder, I admire the effort you both put into that sanding. Particularly impressed by the job Matt's surgeon did to repair his shoulder - this is the ultimate test. Great job on the deck. Cheers
I had completely forgotten that Matt had injured his shoulder and required surgery to repair. Yes, the surgeon did an excellent job considering the heavy workout the sanding is giving his repaired shoulder.
Yes I’m very surprised how the shoulder has held up! And the more sanding I do the stronger it gets. But yeah thankfully I had a good surgeon and no problems after! Cheers
Love your project. "Ran sailing" has some great videos you should watch to learn their fiberglassing techniques. They laminate an overlapping wet on wet technique and peelply to build up the layers in one area and work from one end to the other. Very efficient, fast, and strong.
Yeah we have been closely following their progress and learning a lot! Very glad they went first haha
Nice one. Looking forward to your next video..🙂👍
Ah glad to hear it! Thanks!
Another cup of coffee on the deck dock while watching the new vid. Great to see you again this week and good work on the glassing. Ed
Thanks Ed, glad you could enjoy your coffee!
What a job ! Sanding ! The fiberglass on the outside of the boat is a big job also , thank God your both young and strong ! 👍🏻👍🏻
Hahah yes exactly!! We will get there
I totally screwed up on my first fiberglass job you will get good!❤😂🎉
Hahaha yeah we all do don’t worry! Gotta learn somehow
Not used peel ply myself but have seen many channels using it. One thing I noticed is that in many cases they leave the ply in place protecting the surface until they are ready to paint or otherwise finish the deck surface.
Yep exactly right! The main objective for us is to not have to sand and avoid blush! We thought about leaving it on the deck but worried it would deteriorate and might be hard to remove over time..
Good luck. What an epic adventure.
Ah thanks!!
I liked the comment you made about this being a good time of year to do the fiberglass work -- winter. I watch another channel (RAN 3) and they did glass work in the summer, and they literally had to do their lamination work at night and into the early morning because the epoxy was going off so quickly. Good job with your timing.
Yes exactly! Timing is everything haha
Hang the big sander from the roof with a bungee or two?
exactly my thought 🙂
Yep! We have considered it, just haven’t invested the time in that yet. Too easy to just pick and the sander and go
Haaha. Mijn weekend is weer goed als het begint met jullie mooie en liefdevolle video.
If you want to position your cloth dry, you can put down a very light mist of 3M 77 spray adhesive first. Keeps the fabric in place, but still lets you do some adjustment.
Also - when you're laying down big patches like that, it can be easier to cut your cloth to length, then neatly roll it around a spare cardboard tube or something similar, and then roll it out onto your surface. Much easier to keep the weave from going all wonky on you that way. If you don't like the position, carefully roll it back up, reposition and repeat.
Ah ok thanks for the hot tip!
I have'nt had an op on my shoulder but not sure they would still be up to holding any belt sander over my head. Impressed as always by what you are doing.
Thanks Tim, yeah it’s amazing how my shoulder is holding up! Really impressed with it and the more sanding I do the stronger it becomes! Haha
Hey try this counter Balance a small rope from the Rafters of the shed roof with a small pulley down to weight same as sander then another weight at end of rope so all your doing is holding the sander try it see if it works better for you
Ooooh yeah! Nice idea! Thanks!
Thank you, love your videos and your work!
Ah thanks!!
I like the balancing act in this episode! Tough jobs ahead! 😅
Hahaha thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, yeah big days of lots of muscle building!
Another great video, love watching
Ah thanks!
Great boat mate you can be proud !!
Thanks 👍
PVA makes the entire process easier by a factor of half, you're spraying on your sealer, no need to work out air bubbles again the PVA dries way sooner than your resin so you can squeegee or roll imperfections out of your project to perfection and the glass will hold more resin because your not squeegeeing it all out
Looking great!
Thank you! Cheers!
Lovely peeps, lovely boat!
Thanks! Lovely comment!
Things may have changed but I glassed through the sheets in place!
You are fortunate that the roof over the boat is keeping the rain out. Using peel-ply looks easy enough, is it?
Yeah we are lucky! Yep it was fairly easy and a great result
If you can get it cheep enough use ripstop cloth instead of peelply... same stuff. ☺
Oooooh interesting we will look into it!
When I desperately needed a job, I worked for a speedboat moulding company, and I found that fine fibreglass dust gets everywhere, and if it gets on your skin you really regret it. It requires a cold shower to remove it, cold so that the pores of your skin don’t open while the glass dust is on you. You will do an awful lot to avoid a second cold shower!
True dat, it’s awful.
However, while still uncomfortable I’ve found sanding and grinding fibreglass and epoxy resin to be a lot less itchy than sanding or grinding fibreglass and polyester resin.
At the end of a work day we’d get rid of most of the dust by twirling in front of the biggest squirrel cage fan we could get our hands on. It really helped with blowing the sparkle off of clothing and skin.
Worked a treat.
Yeah it’s nasty stuff! Thanks
See the window squiggle in action , their the best i found for wetting out cloth. As for sanding the big Makita is a heavy beast overhead or under hull, i feel your pain lol. Strait line air sanders used in the auto industry fitted with emery cloth tape and a affixed [scrap ply ] backing board to the base is OK and lighter but slower . The down side is the compressor size. Boat building 90% sanding 10% fun stuff lol.
Yeah true, but when we do the fun stuff it is really fun! We will try and break it up a bit and do other stuff at the same time. Yeah window squeegee is super useful for spreading the epoxy! We will definitely try using it to wet out the cloth too, thanks for the tip!
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Yes to the fun stuff and after all that sanding when that pretty paint goes on it's worth all the pain.
I would have let the peel ply on until need to be removed for next job. This way it would be protected some from foot traffic and all around work. Jmo
Yep we wanted to but worried the peel ply would deteriorate and when we want to remove it would be hard..
FELICITACIONES POR EL TRABAJO EN ESE HERMOSO BARCO !!!! LES MANDO UN GRAN SALUDO A USTEDES Y AL PERRO DESDE LATITUD 34 S. ARGENTINA !!!!!!
I agree with all previous comments. Hang in there and have fun at work.
If my comments sound strange, then it's Google's translator's fault
No your comment sounds great and thankyou!
It IS still recommended to lightly sand after peel ply in the research I have come access.
Yep! Agreed, we are going to do a test piece just out of curiosity
I would have used unthickened epoxy to start as the wood will absorb a lot. Thickened epoxy won’t necessarily wet out the wood and you could end up with dry spots in the glass.
True! Thanks
Love how Lefki says she gave Obie a big bone so he should be happy!
Hahaha trust you to catch that one Nena! Cheers
You have to apply pressure and roll it
Still interested in how the nose of the hull in big following seas performs...hopping that condition is addressed early on after initial launch.
Yeah it’ll be interesting! Fingers crossed
Thank you very much I just found your channel, before starting work on the boat, did you have any experience in carpentry?
Glad you found us! Yeah we both have experience working In a boat yard for a couple years and Matt is a qualified boat builder.
But we started building with no experience and worked/learnt as we went
Great vid, bet you would prefer to be working with wood. Leave the PP down till just before you do the laid the deck, keeps it all clean, Then you get the most use of the PP. if you are laying a deck glue don’t screw!
Yep we were just worried it would deteriorate under foot and not peel off so easily in a years time..
You’re going quick now! What is the estimated building time? 2 years?
Ah ironically yes! The next wooden boat festival which is in two years haha
I think you are doing a great job, although I only sailed 100% wooden boats and thus I hate what I call "Tupperware-boats". Nevertheless, there are two youtubers I follow as well. Number 1 is Matt from the Duracell Project. He is an expert on fibreglassing as he is rebuilding a fully Tupperware boat. He helped others before online from the US. Number 2 is Ran Sailing from Sweden. They built a red cedar hull are just about finishing fibreglassing. Maybe watch their channels to learn or get in touch.
And....Obi is not happy. Normally he is on deck and now he cannot. The sad look from the truck.......
What is the noice?
Do you have a railway track next to the workshop?
Ah a few thinks, there are two saw mills, a golf club close by with some traffic and a metal workshop
Just had a thought, the noise you heard was probably that heavy rainfall half way in the video, when we were laying the glass on deck. Lots and lots of rain on the tin roof is very noisy
Got my thigh caught in a belt sander extremely painful so be careful!! Don't ask why!!
Wow that’s nasty! Hope there wasn’t too much damage
🙋 Слава Рукастым!✊🙋
I've known builders that have had greater success using vinylester resin on decks.
OK, so you’re not happy with the first sheet of fibreglass on the deck. But just what is wrong with it?
Oooh it’s didn’t lay well around the fillets. We forgot to edit the explanation in! We will update next video cheers
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