@@Respectfully10 I don’t see how having more RAM would give it more performance…? That’s only when you’re using more VRAM than your card has, which usually only happens on higher resolutions, which this card isn’t designed to play 4K.
@@farmeunit The price seems to vary a lot by region. Or just time of day. For me, it's $100 cheaper than a 3060ti, but more comparable in performance to a 3070 on higher resolutions.
@@frankcooke1692 Good to know. It's $350 here for the 770 and $360 for a 6700XT. I typically game at 1440p now with my 6900XT, which is my main machine, but sometimes my daughter is on it and my 6800 with a friend.
@@farmeunit I think it's a great option if your monitor is a 4k@60hz 65 inch TV. 16gb for $350? That's what I need. I don't play shoot 'em ups. I don't need a 'competitive edge'. I just want to enjoy the scenery without going bankrupt, and I think it fills that niche
I think they B series cards will be much better. I think it'll be hard for Intel to fix all the issues with these with just drivers. I really hope Intel becomes a competitive force in this space, but I don't think it'll be with them generation.
Considering the specs of the cards, I believe working on the drivers is exactly what will fix them. The a770 should perform just below the 3080 (non-ti). Drivers are extremely important. After all, it's essentially what Windows/Linux are to a PC; if the OS isn't optimized, regardless of your specs, it's gonna suck (remember Vista? hahaha). The thing is that unlike AMD/Nvidia, Intel hasn't had time to fully perfect theirs just yet - it'll come. I'm sure their B series cards are going to be much faster (and they're also going to benefit from already established drivers), but my guess is that those will be competing with the higher end cards of both AMD/Nvidia with a slight advantage... Lower price point.
I got mine 16GB model for $309 USD. That is pretty good. Test it in March when they release the Stable driver with the CPU bottleneck removed. Then it will be pretty close to a 3070.
No it was Moore's Law Is Dead who first broke it. Also, my local PC parts store wasn't able to move inventory so they offered a mail in rebate program to lower the cost to move units around Christmas.
I think this PC has some other type of software issue going on causing this type of driver error, I didnt experience any problems like that on my Z790 Asrock build. One bottleneck you had in MW2 using this 8gb version vs the 16 gb version is that it uses more than 8 gb of video memory on 4k, you should be getting 100-120 fps if that was the 16 gb version. While cool the 8GB version has limits the 16 GB resolves but I looks cool. ARC is great in 4k though glad someone tested it like this on youtube.
Brian from ASRock (Malaysia) here - thanks for the review! Yup, so far so good though not perfect. What do you think about the build quality of the card though? We had quite a few satisfied customers with this A770 Phantom Gaming model.
@@PcCentric did you know that while it looks the same as the Radeon model, the ARC A770 model is slightly larger? Over here the availability non issue, card is plenty but they're not flying off the shelves. Personally I feel that the A380 model is the one people can go for to try Intel ARC. For content creators, one can use the A380 model as a secondary graphics card, enabling AV1 encoding.
I don't understand why you are complaining so much about everything not working perfectly like AMD and Nvidia when both of those platforms have had YEARS AND YEARS to perfect these things. Intel Arch has been out for what? 3 months. Everything is 100% not going to be perfect with it and there are going to be issues as it's a new platform. lol
My biggest recommendation with ARC as someone who has been using it for a few months is to ONLY install the driver and not have Arc Control installed. It literally does nothing but bloat the pc and allegedly it even hampers the card's performance slightly. I have been just using it on the driver with almost no issues, and in place of the recording suite from Arc Control I am just using the built-in Xbox DVR stuff from windows, which works just as well, if not better. It even has instant replay like the Nvidia/AMD softwares do. This video is underselling the perf of Arc a bit, in games like Cyberpunk its actually significantly outperforming both a 3060 and 6600, especially at 1440p.
Arc Control is an abomination unto the Lord. But if you want to overclock (You should. You can easily get 2700Mhz out of any desktop Arc card and boost performance by 10 to 15%.) or change the fan curve, you have to live with it. I'm really hoping that Intel allows for memory overclocking in future drivers so you can really push the thing, but stability and baseline performance come first.
Here in Canada, the a770 16g edition is $480cad, same as the cheapest 3060 8gb, and the prices for the 3060 models go up from there for the 8 and 12 gb versions. I bought the 770 for my second pc a around xmas. Personally im happy with it, even with the driver issues. Still game on my 3070ti in my main rig, but as intels first real foray into the discreet gaming GPU market i'd say they are doing alright, it gives me hope for their future cards.
i have the Acer Predator Bifrost A770 16gb as do 4 of my friends, and we are all loving it, a few bugs but nothing like us "90's-early 2k's" vets were ready for/expecting, alot less jank then expected, but we all use dxvk on nvidia and amd cards for older titles already so... that helped lot.. i have zero problem telling friends able to deal with driver teething issues to grab this acer card.... also overclocks damn well.... just a good and fun card.. +/- 16%perf gain from a pretty simple oc in multi titles i tested was pretty impressive from a quick and dirty overclock... heh..
Question, i just ordered the same card. Do you use the Predator BiFrost software together with the Arc software, or just the Arc software? I'm unsure if i need to be running both of them.
I also tested and unboxed on my channel.. it goes better than expected. I got it for only 400€ in Italy cause I couldn’t afford the NVIDIA asus strix 3060…. For like 700€. I wanted to give my money to someone that is really tryin to sell good product for the right price
there has been a driver update a long time ago with huge performance fixes... also some of the problem including availability have been fixed AND they also dropped the price of the arc a750 from 300 to 250 dollars
Hi,is this card the asrock a770 8gb phantom d? It's currently £239 on ebuyer. Do you think it's worth it at this price? Only want decent quality 1080p is the card loud etc? Thank you
Does anyone know this: im from Norway and when I look at any store that sells laptops with amd ryzen I find almost no 6000 series. Like 95% is 5000 series. But why? The 6000 series was released like a year ago.. and every laptop i see still has the old 5000 series..
Sounds like your local stores are buying older configurations to meet a price point or to make more profit. If you can buy internationally I would look there or EU
It's worth buying now. That ASRock 16GB card is $329.99 at MicroCenter now, but I bought mine a month ago for $299.99. It recently beat the RTX 3070 in Benchmarks.
Does amd ryzen 5 5600 processor support resize bar on intel arc a770 graphics card? So can we open the resize bar with the amd processor and get full performance from the a770 graphics card?
Im so confused because i want the intel arc 770 and userbenchmark says its average bench is 109 compared to a rtx 3060 thats 100 bench. So which is better for gaming.
Hello. I have a dilemma. I can't decide between ASUS - ROG Strix XG32UQ, 32'', 4K, IPS, 160Hz and ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQ 144Hz. Please help with competent opinion.
Has anyone used the Intel Arc GPU with madVR for HDR Tone Mapping in the playback of HDR UHD Bluray content? Based on the required performance specs, an A750 or A770 should be reasonably sufficient, but I have not seen any testing on this. Any thoughts?
@@Miley_00 Yes, that's my general thought as well. My hope was that someone may have tested this functionality. Especially since with tech, it's not uncommon to have weird issues/errors with no straight forward reasons, besides some compatibility.
@PC Centric go into your rtss settings and adjust your sensitivity? I have mine on high. And remember to leave it running by minimizing it instead of xing it out.
Performance per dollar is good. Sometimes reaching the 6800 or 3070 in performance level. Of course it's not the absolute cheapest or best. It might even get better with driver improvements.
@@ansCS2 I would advise against all these options depending on country if buying new tbh. At least where I live, the 3080 is almost the same price as the 4070ti, the 6800xt while being a better deal, only has 1 model for a decent price, the 3070ti is almost the same price as the 3080. Only being around £50 to £70 off.
"FPS remained largely unchanged at different resolutions" = Immature drivers. You can't compare drivers for ARC GPUs with intel's integrated offerings over the years. Intel's integrated offerings have been iterative with a few brief deviations (IRIS and IRIS pro) where they had a bit more of an architectural change but even then, the designs were still based on existing silicon. ARC is more comparable to Ryzen when it launched. You could see the potential and the strength of the architecture but it was plagued compatibility issues, bugs and a lack of software optimizations. This is new territory for intel and it's not just on them, the industry will take time to incorporate their architecture specific optimizations. The games that are seen to work well likely optimized for ARC already, at least to some extent while others have little to no optimization for the architecture. Next gen ARC will show significant improvements but you will find many of those improvements will likely trickle down to the current generation in the form of driver optimizations, game optimizations and other improvements on the driver/firmware level. IMO, we may see the current ARC GPU range mature into much more capable GPUs in a year or so. Intel had to compete in the market as it is today, a few decades ago this would have remained in development another 2 - 3 years. People today want the new thing now, they don't want to wait for the kinks to be ironed out or at least catering to those that feel this way doesn't hit the bottom line as much as it used to. We are used to being beta testers for tech these days, hell, 90% of modern games are launched in what used to be considered a beta stage of development, many are not even properly complete until a year or more after launch with patches and DLC.
My pal and I both bought the ARC A770 and we have been playing Sniper Elite 5 and Farcry 5 and both games run great. I feel confident that intel will continue to improve. We are running the BETA driver with no issues. My friends PC has a Threadripper CPU and I'm running an I9 12900KS. I think Intel can compete. Hopefully they will hang in there. We use Xbox bar to view in game performance.
They're also the cheapest GPU's with AV1 encoding. It's a niche function but still very worthwhile for some content creators, especially for any aspiring streamers.
Intel can pull it off and I'm sure we'll have some compelling options later during the current gen or next. COVID-19 threw everyone's timing off but I think Intel should come out with something during the odd years between when NVIDIA and AMD clash during the release year of their new generations. Intel can come after NVIDIA and AMD have released their lower end GPUs of the generation and come in with better and lower priced options than the xx60 series (i.e 3060, 4060, etc.) or equivalent AMD series (i.e. 6700, 7700). I cannot see them competing with the xx80s NVIDIAs and equivalent AMDs just yet but if they can come in like AMD did with the RX480/RX580, I think they will do quite well.
Yeah the A770 competes with the 6700XT price range right now and the A750 competes with the 6600 and sometimes the 6600XT but they have a long way to go likely. For most titles the 6700XT blows the A770 out of the water even with 4GB less VRAM. I hope they can progress fast and put out really good cards that force AMD and NVIDIA to decline in sales a lot and make the market more competitive if that's possible instead of 70 and 80 series NVIDIA cards costing so much unlike prior. I know a lot has changed and technology advances and research and building everything costs a lot but still :( I still remember getting my MSI GTX 970 years back for I think $329 but I missed out on the settlement class action rip. Still was an amazing card and lasted me years. Even back then the 980 and 980 ti were less than a 60 and 70 series card nowadays I think at launch price or close.
I'm so fricking curious about the a750 and a770 LE BUT the 6650XT and 6700XT are similarly priced, more stable, and are currently bundled with The Last of Us Part 1. Too compelling right now. Edit: Maybe I split the difference and get the 6650XT + A380 for two separate builds. I have more than enough components to make two desktops anyway.
Sir what about media engines for video editing. Intel has very good media engines. Can you do Premier pro pudgetbench benchmark test? Make sure Intel quick sync and arc gpu media engines both are enabled for Premier pro.
EposVox has already done a benchmark on that. They slay hard in those scenarios, and the best part is that if all you need is transcoding or encoding, the A380 will do it just as well as the A770, at lest as far as H265 and AV1 go.
I think it really depends on where you are. In Canada, Memory Express has it frequently priced at $430 CAD and the cheapest RTX 3060 12 GB is $520 CAD. Here an A770 is worth it. There are definite scaling issues still.
My telemetry on my 3060 laptop has RARELY ever worked in the almost two yrs Ive had the PC. Maybe the first month, and one or two random times in random games since then. No matter what I have tried, it almost never works.
Hey everyone I have a question, I am building a PC with a 13600k and 3090ti and was wondering what surge protector I would need to keep the components safe. Thank you.
I recommend a good ups i have one on my pc (5800x rx 6600xt), monitor and router 1000va it’s give me plenty of time to power off the pc normally if there is a power outage
well its impressive for a 1st gen GPU form Intel... but AMD and Nvidia have literally 20+ years of driver/software optimizations and even game ready drivers over the years.. i guess one can think of buying a intel GPU maybe after 3 or 4 Generations(maybe in year 2026).. no point in paying money to become a BETA TESTER for intel ...lmao.. they shuld pay money to gamers who are using it.
ok im a bit lost in the fact you have to turn off settings with a new card is the whole point of getting a new GPU is so you DONT have to turn stuff off and enjoy All the game has to offer higher fps but all the cool settings ray tracing and all that is part of gaming not what your looking at if its not then why did we not stop with pac man and space invaders
I am more interested in drivers stability, not the features. I personally, once I start the game, configure options that works for me for smooth gameplay, don't ever touch anymore after. I don't even like to watch the fps counter, kinda trigger OCD then for me.
yeah, i turn one on to test and find issues, but... if its on all the time... kinda "why did that drop, was it the card, driver, windows, another app, the game, etc" on and on... mostly its just the games in my exp... regardless of hardware some games are gonna have drops in some places.... funny enough using dxvk can actually mitigate this issue for some titles.... part of why i have used it long before arc was a thing... heh..
I'm not sure how you play your games what's team has a FPS counter you can enable and so does Ubisoft. And I think the Asus GPU software also has an osd option.
Going into this with the completely wrong mindset my dude. Yes there are software issues, Intel themselves admit that on their own pages for this product. You are definitely being a bit of a beta tester for these GPUs. However, the drivers have come along leaps and bounds. If you're willing to accept some bugs, there could be some VERY interesting performance jumps coming very soon, much like the December 2022 update which improved some DX9 games around 80%+ in FPS. Also the overlay is being swapped out for a nicer interface, confirmed on LTT.
Thank you for this informative video as a result of your video I purchased Acer Predator OC A-770 16GB DDR6. I just found out that Intel just released today 4080 Arc video driver which greatly improves performance across the board. Perhaps you would consider running the new video driver from Intel and release update to this video? Continued success to you and your channel.
@@Miley_00 Thankfully no issues whatsoever. I would strongly recommend that you use the latest Intel drivers. Also working with video editing in 4K is exceptionally good. I hope this bit of FYI helps..
I would GUESS that if Intel is still committed to ARC, that they are waiting for NVIDIA to flush out all their 30xx GPUs in favor of 40xx, and then sneak up on the midrange graphics market.
Storage Question, do people still install operating system on a separate drive or just use M.2 nowadays for everything “would make a great UA-cam video” 😂
Personally I'd say that if your budget can stretch to the 3060ti, I would go with that as the difference between the 3060 and 3060ti really is noticeable. Regards the R5 5500, that ok, and at least by being on the AM4 platform you can upgrade it at a later date to perhaps the 5800X3D and then you'll be flying with the big boys!
I said it once and I'll say it again, I want Intel to succeed in this space but it's been months now and the software is still terrible. There just doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency to get things in order. A real shame!
The drivers are getting better. Intel is really working hard on the drivers.
Hell yeah
A graphic card that is 16gb but performs like a 3060Ti makes me want to get a console.
@@Respectfully10 I don’t see how having more RAM would give it more performance…? That’s only when you’re using more VRAM than your card has, which usually only happens on higher resolutions, which this card isn’t designed to play 4K.
@@livedreamsg no, it does happen on 1080p too.
@@jelly8594 You need 16GB VRAM at 1080p…?
I've been seeing a few people saying this card is being slept on for 4k "budget" gaming with the 16GB version
I have been debating it for my Plex server and backup gaming machine but hard to justify with 6700XT being so close in price.
@@farmeunit The price seems to vary a lot by region. Or just time of day. For me, it's $100 cheaper than a 3060ti, but more comparable in performance to a 3070 on higher resolutions.
@@frankcooke1692 Good to know. It's $350 here for the 770 and $360 for a 6700XT. I typically game at 1440p now with my 6900XT, which is my main machine, but sometimes my daughter is on it and my 6800 with a friend.
@@farmeunit I think it's a great option if your monitor is a 4k@60hz 65 inch TV. 16gb for $350? That's what I need. I don't play shoot 'em ups. I don't need a 'competitive edge'. I just want to enjoy the scenery without going bankrupt, and I think it fills that niche
they should continue sleeping
I'm excited to see future driver updates for this card, it's only been improving since launch and full potential still hasn't been tapped.
Yeah, fundamentally the hardware is great. So it has a lot of potential tbh
This is a card that should have updated reviews as more and more driver updates are released.
Price has dropped $50 from $300 to $250 since on the A750, they announced a price drop today. New drivers too.
Most of the problem you came across seems to be a reviewer problems not the user.
Yeah I agree, this was the most useless test video I have seen about ARC, guessing framerates, really?
@@Hoytehablode and when he said 35 it was 47 to 52.
Ugly and distrustful, isn't it?
Geez these comments are a bit harsh. He made some poor guesses while frustrated. That's surely no major crime.
I don’t think I heard you mention it, but did you have resizable BAR enabled for these games? I know Intel says it’s a must
Its a must
That is a requirement that literally mentioned on the box of Arc gpu.
@@JustinMacsMoon didn’t know that. Thanks!
I think they B series cards will be much better. I think it'll be hard for Intel to fix all the issues with these with just drivers. I really hope Intel becomes a competitive force in this space, but I don't think it'll be with them generation.
Considering the specs of the cards, I believe working on the drivers is exactly what will fix them. The a770 should perform just below the 3080 (non-ti). Drivers are extremely important. After all, it's essentially what Windows/Linux are to a PC; if the OS isn't optimized, regardless of your specs, it's gonna suck (remember Vista? hahaha). The thing is that unlike AMD/Nvidia, Intel hasn't had time to fully perfect theirs just yet - it'll come.
I'm sure their B series cards are going to be much faster (and they're also going to benefit from already established drivers), but my guess is that those will be competing with the higher end cards of both AMD/Nvidia with a slight advantage... Lower price point.
Hopefully that rumored driver update coming will make this card way better.
Eventually yes
Hello from the future. Drivers did improve performance (somewhat to a lot) and there was a price drop (in some regions).
I got mine 16GB model for $309 USD. That is pretty good. Test it in March when they release the Stable driver with the CPU bottleneck removed. Then it will be pretty close to a 3070.
Where? I can’t see it for less than $350.
So you work for intel, or how do you get your information?
No it was Moore's Law Is Dead who first broke it. Also, my local PC parts store wasn't able to move inventory so they offered a mail in rebate program to lower the cost to move units around Christmas.
@@phoenixrising4995 thanks
@@livedreamsg If you're willing to sacrifice a thousand flashing RGB lights- you'll find space for an extra $50 in a build. Who cares
Is the WZ 2.0 build in fps counter found in the settings different from frame view
I think this PC has some other type of software issue going on causing this type of driver error, I didnt experience any problems like that on my Z790 Asrock build. One bottleneck you had in MW2 using this 8gb version vs the 16 gb version is that it uses more than 8 gb of video memory on 4k, you should be getting 100-120 fps if that was the 16 gb version. While cool the 8GB version has limits the 16 GB resolves but I looks cool. ARC is great in 4k though glad someone tested it like this on youtube.
Brian from ASRock (Malaysia) here - thanks for the review! Yup, so far so good though not perfect.
What do you think about the build quality of the card though? We had quite a few satisfied customers with this A770 Phantom Gaming model.
Pretty good, no problems with thermals, decent size etc. Price / availability for Arc in general needs adjustment
@@PcCentric did you know that while it looks the same as the Radeon model, the ARC A770 model is slightly larger?
Over here the availability non issue, card is plenty but they're not flying off the shelves.
Personally I feel that the A380 model is the one people can go for to try Intel ARC. For content creators, one can use the A380 model as a secondary graphics card, enabling AV1 encoding.
I don't understand why you are complaining so much about everything not working perfectly like AMD and Nvidia when both of those platforms have had YEARS AND YEARS to perfect these things. Intel Arch has been out for what? 3 months. Everything is 100% not going to be perfect with it and there are going to be issues as it's a new platform. lol
Imagine the support they can have between the interactions between the intel cpu's and their gps.
My biggest recommendation with ARC as someone who has been using it for a few months is to ONLY install the driver and not have Arc Control installed. It literally does nothing but bloat the pc and allegedly it even hampers the card's performance slightly. I have been just using it on the driver with almost no issues, and in place of the recording suite from Arc Control I am just using the built-in Xbox DVR stuff from windows, which works just as well, if not better. It even has instant replay like the Nvidia/AMD softwares do.
This video is underselling the perf of Arc a bit, in games like Cyberpunk its actually significantly outperforming both a 3060 and 6600, especially at 1440p.
I'm looking for the full head to head benchmarks in a couple weeks time - a proper head to head 👏
Arc Control is an abomination unto the Lord. But if you want to overclock (You should. You can easily get 2700Mhz out of any desktop Arc card and boost performance by 10 to 15%.) or change the fan curve, you have to live with it. I'm really hoping that Intel allows for memory overclocking in future drivers so you can really push the thing, but stability and baseline performance come first.
Has anyone tried the Beta driver update with a host of updates and fixes? I think it was released around January 10, 2023.
Here in Canada, the a770 16g edition is $480cad, same as the cheapest 3060 8gb, and the prices for the 3060 models go up from there for the 8 and 12 gb versions. I bought the 770 for my second pc a around xmas. Personally im happy with it, even with the driver issues. Still game on my 3070ti in my main rig, but as intels first real foray into the discreet gaming GPU market i'd say they are doing alright, it gives me hope for their future cards.
What CPU do you have on the a770?
i have the Acer Predator Bifrost A770 16gb as do 4 of my friends, and we are all loving it, a few bugs but nothing like us "90's-early 2k's" vets were ready for/expecting, alot less jank then expected, but we all use dxvk on nvidia and amd cards for older titles already so... that helped lot..
i have zero problem telling friends able to deal with driver teething issues to grab this acer card.... also overclocks damn well.... just a good and fun card.. +/- 16%perf gain from a pretty simple oc in multi titles i tested was pretty impressive from a quick and dirty overclock... heh..
ps4 games were always capped at 30fps anyway - what's the big deal?
@@frankcooke1692 screens are, a 144hz will be unplayable at 30 fps.
Question, i just ordered the same card. Do you use the Predator BiFrost software together with the Arc software, or just the Arc software? I'm unsure if i need to be running both of them.
I also tested and unboxed on my channel.. it goes better than expected. I got it for only 400€ in Italy cause I couldn’t afford the NVIDIA asus strix 3060…. For like 700€.
I wanted to give my money to someone that is really tryin to sell good product for the right price
there has been a driver update a long time ago with huge performance fixes...
also some of the problem including availability have been fixed AND they also dropped the price of the arc a750 from 300 to 250 dollars
Hi,is this card the asrock a770 8gb phantom d? It's currently £239 on ebuyer. Do you think it's worth it at this price? Only want decent quality 1080p is the card loud etc? Thank you
That NPC at 19:32 is cracking me up and having me struggling to listen to Marcus. 😁
For some reason I really want one of these...just to promote competition which only benefits us
I might buy a future gen intel arc when i feel the need to upgrade from my rx 5700 xt, i will officially have used gpus from all 3 manufactures
You'd have enough expertise in troubleshooting to work at AMD's support line by now
Does anyone know this: im from Norway and when I look at any store that sells laptops with amd ryzen I find almost no 6000 series. Like 95% is 5000 series. But why? The 6000 series was released like a year ago.. and every laptop i see still has the old 5000 series..
Sounds like your local stores are buying older configurations to meet a price point or to make more profit. If you can buy internationally I would look there or EU
It's worth buying now. That ASRock 16GB card is $329.99 at MicroCenter now, but I bought mine a month ago for $299.99. It recently beat the RTX 3070 in Benchmarks.
Does amd ryzen 5 5600 processor support resize bar on intel arc a770 graphics card? So can we open the resize bar with the amd processor and get full performance from the a770 graphics card?
Im so confused because i want the intel arc 770 and userbenchmark says its average bench is 109 compared to a rtx 3060 thats 100 bench. So which is better for gaming.
Please respond if you can enlighten me
Hello. I have a dilemma. I can't decide between ASUS - ROG Strix XG32UQ, 32'', 4K, IPS, 160Hz and ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQ 144Hz. Please help with competent opinion.
the drivers are hyper complex things to make, patience reqd.
Why has the referance model have 16 gigs of ram and the ASROCK card have 8....
I accept a lot of bugs for 350$, but the most crucial factor is whether it performs well for gaming and my 770 16GB plays games flawlessly.
hi,what camera do you use?
Has anyone used the Intel Arc GPU with madVR for HDR Tone Mapping in the playback of HDR UHD Bluray content? Based on the required performance specs, an A750 or A770 should be reasonably sufficient, but I have not seen any testing on this. Any thoughts?
I am pretty sure it's only games they would be having problems with drivers
@@Miley_00 Yes, that's my general thought as well. My hope was that someone may have tested this functionality. Especially since with tech, it's not uncommon to have weird issues/errors with no straight forward reasons, besides some compatibility.
Guys, rivatuner/afterburner overlay works with arc... I have footage of it for proof lol. Check my "Live" videos and more on the way.
Didn't work for me 😫 I don't understand why it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't 😢
@PC Centric go into your rtss settings and adjust your sensitivity? I have mine on high. And remember to leave it running by minimizing it instead of xing it out.
budget gpu showdown candidates
rx 6600/6600xt/arc 750/ rtx 3060/ 3060ti/ rx 6700xt
video plz
Performance per dollar is good. Sometimes reaching the 6800 or 3070 in performance level. Of course it's not the absolute cheapest or best. It might even get better with driver improvements.
hopefully they will see you review and take note lol. love your videos as always 👌
picked up bifrost a770 for $259 recently. some issues but it's a great deal at that price
palit 4070 ti gamerock premium oc edition thermals are good or not for long terms gaming pls answer me...
Yes they will be completely fine.
@FlynN you can tell me a budget build with this GPU and i5 13600k i want to build this in ddr4 platform pls reply
and I need a budget 1440p monitor pls suggest me
@@AnitaKumari-eo3no best gpu you can afford, an rx 6800xt or 3070ti or 3080 will pair nicely with 13600k
@@ansCS2 I would advise against all these options depending on country if buying new tbh. At least where I live, the 3080 is almost the same price as the 4070ti, the 6800xt while being a better deal, only has 1 model for a decent price, the 3070ti is almost the same price as the 3080. Only being around £50 to £70 off.
"FPS remained largely unchanged at different resolutions" = Immature drivers. You can't compare drivers for ARC GPUs with intel's integrated offerings over the years. Intel's integrated offerings have been iterative with a few brief deviations (IRIS and IRIS pro) where they had a bit more of an architectural change but even then, the designs were still based on existing silicon. ARC is more comparable to Ryzen when it launched. You could see the potential and the strength of the architecture but it was plagued compatibility issues, bugs and a lack of software optimizations. This is new territory for intel and it's not just on them, the industry will take time to incorporate their architecture specific optimizations. The games that are seen to work well likely optimized for ARC already, at least to some extent while others have little to no optimization for the architecture.
Next gen ARC will show significant improvements but you will find many of those improvements will likely trickle down to the current generation in the form of driver optimizations, game optimizations and other improvements on the driver/firmware level. IMO, we may see the current ARC GPU range mature into much more capable GPUs in a year or so. Intel had to compete in the market as it is today, a few decades ago this would have remained in development another 2 - 3 years. People today want the new thing now, they don't want to wait for the kinks to be ironed out or at least catering to those that feel this way doesn't hit the bottom line as much as it used to. We are used to being beta testers for tech these days, hell, 90% of modern games are launched in what used to be considered a beta stage of development, many are not even properly complete until a year or more after launch with patches and DLC.
why dont you just enable the IN Game fps counter
My pal and I both bought the ARC A770 and we have been playing Sniper Elite 5 and Farcry 5 and both games run great. I feel confident that intel will continue to improve. We are running the BETA driver with no issues. My friends PC has a Threadripper CPU and I'm running an I9 12900KS. I think Intel can compete. Hopefully they will hang in there. We use Xbox bar to view in game performance.
I paid 175 on Amazon for the le intel arc 750. I just need a mobo for my i3 12100f and i will be working on my build.
They're also the cheapest GPU's with AV1 encoding. It's a niche function but still very worthwhile for some content creators, especially for any aspiring streamers.
What about the ASRock Arc A380 Challenger ITX OC 6GB, for actual AV1 encoding of video weather its capture videos, video conversion?
Great vid! Thank you! Arc seems interesting still 👍
Hey PC Centric! I wouldn't mind a revisit as the ARC drivers mature.
50 seconds in and you already drop something? whow are you Linus? XD
Please tell me who makes that green mouse
What drivers did you use?
Turns on RT shadows in CP2077 the worse RT 🤦. Should use reflections or the lighting instead.
I'd love to want one of these. Also, new jumper?
Hello!
Can someone tell me what name his monitor.
I think this would be a good video to revist with all the price and driver changes.
The recording of fps problem is coming from the obs config not bc the arc gpu it's trash!
Intel can pull it off and I'm sure we'll have some compelling options later during the current gen or next. COVID-19 threw everyone's timing off but I think Intel should come out with something during the odd years between when NVIDIA and AMD clash during the release year of their new generations. Intel can come after NVIDIA and AMD have released their lower end GPUs of the generation and come in with better and lower priced options than the xx60 series (i.e 3060, 4060, etc.) or equivalent AMD series (i.e. 6700, 7700). I cannot see them competing with the xx80s NVIDIAs and equivalent AMDs just yet but if they can come in like AMD did with the RX480/RX580, I think they will do quite well.
Yeah the A770 competes with the 6700XT price range right now and the A750 competes with the 6600 and sometimes the 6600XT but they have a long way to go likely. For most titles the 6700XT blows the A770 out of the water even with 4GB less VRAM. I hope they can progress fast and put out really good cards that force AMD and NVIDIA to decline in sales a lot and make the market more competitive if that's possible instead of 70 and 80 series NVIDIA cards costing so much unlike prior. I know a lot has changed and technology advances and research and building everything costs a lot but still :( I still remember getting my MSI GTX 970 years back for I think $329 but I missed out on the settlement class action rip. Still was an amazing card and lasted me years. Even back then the 980 and 980 ti were less than a 60 and 70 series card nowadays I think at launch price or close.
Is that the latest driver??? Please double check...
I would love to see that value competition on the supposed unlocked update
Is it taboo to mention amd or something? The 6600 and 6600xt are clearly better cards in every measurable way other than av1 encoding.
In Germany the Asrock arc a770 8gb costs 280€ and is a bit better than the 3060 ti
When you dropped the GPU box it felt like you moved my heart to my throat! 🤗❤😊
Is it better than rx6650XT?
Ever heard of MSI Afterburner. Good for showing FPS....
The a380 is the cheapest card that can drive 3 4k screens. I don't game. It is the perfect card for my grown-up needs.
Have you ever heard of Afterburner?
Need to start benchmarking new games. Dead space , forspoken, hi Fi rush, plagues tale requiem. All demanding ish games.
Noted!
this build or i7-9700k & 2080 & 32GB RAM
I'm so fricking curious about the a750 and a770 LE BUT the 6650XT and 6700XT are similarly priced, more stable, and are currently bundled with The Last of Us Part 1. Too compelling right now.
Edit: Maybe I split the difference and get the 6650XT + A380 for two separate builds. I have more than enough components to make two desktops anyway.
Please, don't talk like a machine gun.
Sir what about media engines for video editing.
Intel has very good media engines. Can you do Premier pro pudgetbench benchmark test?
Make sure Intel quick sync and arc gpu media engines both are enabled for Premier pro.
EposVox has already done a benchmark on that. They slay hard in those scenarios, and the best part is that if all you need is transcoding or encoding, the A380 will do it just as well as the A770, at lest as far as H265 and AV1 go.
I think it really depends on where you are. In Canada, Memory Express has it frequently priced at $430 CAD and the cheapest RTX 3060 12 GB is $520 CAD. Here an A770 is worth it. There are definite scaling issues still.
Just an FYI, Canada Computers has the a750 8GB for $329.99 CDN.
I'd probably buy one if they supported sr-iov
My telemetry on my 3060 laptop has RARELY ever worked in the almost two yrs Ive had the PC. Maybe the first month, and one or two random times in random games since then. No matter what I have tried, it almost never works.
Hey everyone I have a question, I am building a PC with a 13600k and 3090ti and was wondering what surge protector I would need to keep the components safe. Thank you.
A really nice power supply that has overcurrent protection built in along with a surge protector is what i would do
Something probably from Anker
Anker surge protector
Surge protector? You mean extension lead?? If that is what u mean I find belkin is a good option as well as anker
I recommend a good ups i have one on my pc (5800x rx 6600xt), monitor and router 1000va it’s give me plenty of time to power off the pc normally if there is a power outage
Guys fraps exists, fraps hardly gives bs
well its impressive for a 1st gen GPU form Intel... but AMD and Nvidia have literally 20+ years of driver/software optimizations and even game ready drivers over the years..
i guess one can think of buying a intel GPU maybe after 3 or 4 Generations(maybe in year 2026)..
no point in paying money to become a BETA TESTER for intel ...lmao.. they shuld pay money to gamers who are using it.
If someone buys it for me then it's definitely worth buying. 😂
Modern Warfare has its own statistics for GPU and CPU usage, temp, fps etc.
ok im a bit lost in the fact you have to turn off settings with a new card is the whole point of getting a new GPU is so you DONT have to turn stuff off and enjoy All the game has to offer higher fps but all the cool settings ray tracing and all that is part of gaming not what your looking at if its not then why did we not stop with pac man and space invaders
I am more interested in drivers stability, not the features. I personally, once I start the game, configure options that works for me for smooth gameplay, don't ever touch anymore after. I don't even like to watch the fps counter, kinda trigger OCD then for me.
yeah, i turn one on to test and find issues, but... if its on all the time... kinda "why did that drop, was it the card, driver, windows, another app, the game, etc" on and on... mostly its just the games in my exp... regardless of hardware some games are gonna have drops in some places.... funny enough using dxvk can actually mitigate this issue for some titles.... part of why i have used it long before arc was a thing... heh..
I'm not sure how you play your games what's team has a FPS counter you can enable and so does Ubisoft. And I think the Asus GPU software also has an osd option.
It has a 256 bit memory interface 😂😅?
That’s not a lot of interface bandwidth to work with…..😮
Going into this with the completely wrong mindset my dude.
Yes there are software issues, Intel themselves admit that on their own pages for this product. You are definitely being a bit of a beta tester for these GPUs.
However, the drivers have come along leaps and bounds. If you're willing to accept some bugs, there could be some VERY interesting performance jumps coming very soon, much like the December 2022 update which improved some DX9 games around 80%+ in FPS.
Also the overlay is being swapped out for a nicer interface, confirmed on LTT.
Short answer: No
Long answer: No, no, and no
Thank you for this informative video as a result of your video I purchased Acer Predator OC A-770 16GB DDR6. I just found out that Intel just released today 4080 Arc video driver which greatly improves performance across the board. Perhaps you would consider running the new video driver from Intel and release update to this video? Continued success to you and your channel.
Hey man how do you like it? Any issues?
@@Miley_00 Thankfully no issues whatsoever. I would strongly recommend that you use the latest Intel drivers. Also working with video editing in 4K is exceptionally good. I hope this bit of FYI helps..
With more people having and using these gpu's would probably help with drivers more data to work with and all that
the drop 😨... ah you got me lmao , from what ive heard about intel so far it has futare potential with the updates they have been giving it
I would GUESS that if Intel is still committed to ARC, that they are waiting for NVIDIA to flush out all their 30xx GPUs in favor of 40xx, and then sneak up on the midrange graphics market.
Warzone should have a built in frame counter in the settings
When all else fails, just use the in-game FPS counter. Every esport title will include a toggle for an FPS counter.
That's stupid. Your eyes are the FPS counter - you guys are so driven by numbers. Just enjoy the fucking game.
In most games with ARC you need full restart, otherwise it will be slower and slower with each major setting/resolution change.
crap
Storage Question, do people still install operating system on a separate drive or just use M.2 nowadays for everything
“would make a great UA-cam video” 😂
Warzone has its own fps counter!
hi i wanted to ask a queston is the amd r5 5500 with rtx 3060 a decent pc in 2023
I would think so
Personally I'd say that if your budget can stretch to the 3060ti, I would go with that as the difference between the 3060 and 3060ti really is noticeable. Regards the R5 5500, that ok, and at least by being on the AM4 platform you can upgrade it at a later date to perhaps the 5800X3D and then you'll be flying with the big boys!
@@limitlesswave but my budget is 1200 dollars and i really want the o11 d evo
@@victryroyale it all depends, what resolution your monitor is, what games u play/fps you're expecting to get
@@hnslager 1440 p cs go valorant mfs minecraft
Hi ultrawides worth it?
Yeee
@@PcCentric whats the best gpu for an ultra wide?
@@balancostel7940 fart
@@balancostel7940 depends on resolutions
@@PeanutLover11 1440p
If you use steam you could use the FPS tracker that steam has.
They're selling them at cost, they can't get cheap unless they want to sell them at a loss
Not at a loss. $249 and $349 are just a market cost. Straight from manufacturer is actually quite lowest cost. They are making a profit.
I said it once and I'll say it again, I want Intel to succeed in this space but it's been months now and the software is still terrible. There just doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency to get things in order. A real shame!
Considering you can get some Apple M2 thing for $600 for a full system......