Really nice racquet 👍 highly recommend 👍 the feeling of cut thru air is amazing👍 and automatically your reaction time on front court will be "rapid fire" ,just that for head heavy user , you need few rounds to get used to compact and faster swing racquet like nf 800 might miss hit some shot, but then once u will used to it , it's amazing👍
I’m so happy I found this video! I’m finally switching to NF800 3U after spending two years with my Astrox 88D Pro 3U and Astrox 99 Pro 3U. I feel like it may take me a while to get used to the NF800’s speed but your review was more than enough to sway me. Thanks a bunch!
just got the 3U G4 version of NF800. I never buy a racket that expensive but it is way better than my 10 years old one when swinging. I would say it is all round compare to my friend's astrox 99 pro and my previous rackets as well as my 370 speed backup racket. good quality and good feeling on hand and worth the price tag. The swing and the feeling is fast, great and solid. The sound breaking the wind is amazing and I got much faster than my old 3U racket for any front to mid court and it is noticeable by my friends as well. The only down side is the frame is smaller and so fast it kinda slip away, it is easy to miss or hitting the frame
Volant Wear I went for the 4U, 5G. I have been playing with a Yonex Z Force 2 4U/5G, but it’s a bit unforgiving with the sweet spot, and I need to speed up my racquet head for my doubles, so was advised to look at something less head-heavy. Also dropped my string tension from 27 to 24lb. Hopefully I can work on my control a bit more than smash.
@PurpleRhino Difficult to give too much feedback on the differences between the rackets having only used the nanoflare 800 in 4x 2hr sessions in this last week and a half. And I have changed my string tension too, and focussed less on my attacking game, and more on defence at the front in doubles. What I would say is that I can play a lot more back-to-back games without getting pains in my shoulder. Control for me placing shots is better (previously “just out” shots have become “just in”). And I dont know whether this is a string tension thing, increasing sweet spot as an average player, or whether due to slightly lighter head. (??) Whatever it is, it's working for my defensive play and better control. But my smash isnt as effective against better players.
I use a NF800 4ug5 which is very solid at the front and rear court. I'm not a big smasher, more like a play maker. Would the astrox 100zz be a better bet for me? My ask is a racket which is fast enough for defence and attack.
Hart to say for you specifically Rohit. Have you considered a 3UG5 NF800? We prefer it over the 4U version as it provides more attacking power (provided that it's not considered too heavy for you and if you have a fast swing speed). 100ZZ on a like-for-like (i.e. 4UG5) would probably provide you with a little bit more power generally speaking, but you wont have as much agility compared to the NF800 with fast play. Hope this helps! :)
Henry and Jeff, do you think the shaft might be too stiff for players with weak wrists? I had a NanoSpeed 800 which has quite similiar specs (ultra slim frame and shaft, etc.) but it is an extreme stiff shaft racquet. I am just curious how technology has advanced in over a decade.
Hi Totoro, the shaft is stiff on the NF800 but it's still a very forgiving racquet. Depending on how strong your wrist is, it might be a limiting factor but provided that you have a fast swing speed, that should compensate for it with this racquet.
Hi Jason, we think the 100ZZ would be better for someone spending more time at the back of the court. The NF800 is head light as well which is not as common for players that prefer the back court.
Hello Cyrus, if I were to put a number to it, maybe 10-15%? The other elements of the racket are essentially the same, it's really just the overall weight that's changed between the two. So anything that weight affects in a racket is different. But as with any shift in one direction, there will be disadvantages too. For example, being more powerful, means slightly slower speed. But because it's a head light racket and moves so swiftly through the air, it's more than fast enough at the higher weight (3U).
Hey volant, i have watched all of your racket reviews and i believe your review is very helpful. What’s your opinion on the better racket for a front double court woman player in mixed double? Im thinking about nanoflare 800 vs 88s pro.
Hey Felix, thanks for your feedback :) Hmm, out of those two, our opinion would be the nanoflare 800... but the 88s pro is good too (probably go for the 4U version as the 3U is probably too heavy). Do you know if a harder or softer feeling racket is preferred? If softer, we'd think NF800. If harder try the 88s Pro! :) Hope that helps
Hii guys great review as usually What do you think using 3U model for rear court in double ? If we compared with 88d pro 4u model, which one easier generate power between bot? Thanks a lot
I am deciding between Arcsaber 10/11, 88S/D and NF 800, as they are all at similar price range. Just wondering what would be your recommendation for intermediate, mostly causal double player? or any other suggestions?
Out of those that you've asked about specifically, we'd choose the NF800. In terms of other recommendations, check out the Volant Rogue S1 (even-balanced, all-rounder racket)!
@@Volantbadminton I am interested at the Rogue S1, but I am based in Sydney is this something I can try? Also you guys should do a review or comparison on it, good to have a baseline/reference point when comparing to other racquets.
@@helloworld8250 Unfortunately, we aren't ranged in any physical stores in Sydney at the moment. We do offer a 30 day trial/money back guarantee though :) Feedback from customers and how we went about designing it was to create a similar feel to the Arcsaber 10. Here is a review by a Melbourne based badminton player as well: ua-cam.com/video/Qqu6EUv4Po8/v-deo.html
Hi. I've used Arcsaber 10 for almost 9 years now and unfortunately it broke the other day. I'm considering to buy NF800. can you suggest if I should buy a 3U or a 4U version of this? Consider me as an all round player meaning, I can play in the front court and as well as the back court. Thanks for the review again.
Hii, great video! I'm currently searching for all-around racket but still with decent to great power, i'm considering NF800 since based on your review it has decent power yet really great on speed. How will it compare to 88D pro, 99 pro and 100zz?? Which one is better for me to get? Thanks a lot
Hi Bayu, that's a bit tricky because the NF800 is far less head-heavy than the 88D pro, 99 pro and 100zz!!! But if I was going to choose, I'd go with the 88D pro - probably the 4U to make sure you still have a bit of speed!
Hey, I'm a mens doubles player and have been struggling getting a racket that suits me for a while, I prefere front court and defensive play but don't have a great smash, so I've used the og astrox 88s for a long time as it's slightly head heavy but I don't like the G4 grip size, any reccomendations on a racket that may suit me?
I had a carbonex 21sp for more than 10 years.. i recently purchased the NF700 but now also considering the NF800 / the new NF800LT. What are your thouhts?
Hi WahLeman, Thanks for your message. We haven't had the opportunity to test the NF800LT so can't really comment on that (we've been in lockdown for a while unfortunately and can't get to the courts to test any racquets!). But from our perspective (opinion only), the NF800 is a superior racquet. From what we can tell, the NF800LT is essentially a lighter weight version of the NF800, so if your preference is lighter racquets, then you could consider it. I guess it also depend on whether you have a 3U or 4U version of NF700 if you want to compare the same weight classes an making sure you're comparing apples to apples. Part of your decision will be dependent on your preference, the other part will be dependent on skill. Personally, I don't think there's enough weight in a 5U racquet and that weight class is really more suited to beginners of the sport but because we haven't tried the NF800LT it's hard to comment as we could be completely wrong! Hope this helps!
Hi Dennis, it's been a long while since I've played with the Jetspeed 10 unfortunately so I don't think I'd be giving you a reasonable response to your question, sorry! We'll definitely keep it in mind for future reviews though :)
Thanks for the video. I am a high intermediate doubles and singles player. I broke my Astrox 77 (4u green). I liked it for singles but it was slightly slow for me when I played doubles. I also play with jetspeed s12 (3u first generation). I feel it is lacking in power for singles and sometimes in doubles. May be I need a racquet that is in between Jetspeed s12 (3u) and Astrox 77 (4u). I was considering between Tectonic 7, NF 800, NF 700, Astrox 100zz, Arcsaber 11 pro. What would you recommend? Also my smash is not strong, but I am working on it :)
I think you're probably more geared towards an 88D Pro, 100ZZ, Arc 11 Pro based on what you're saying. See if you can have a hit with these and gauge for yourself :)
Should I get Arcsaber 11 Pro or Nanoflare 800, I'm looking for an overall performance but I've heard that Arc 11 pro is a bit slow on swinging speed...
Hi I am currently using astrox 88s 4u version. However, I understand that this racket is a bit head light so I am considering for a 3u model. But at the same time, I'm worried that it might be too heavy? If I opt for the 4u, I'm also afraid it might be too light in contrast to my 88s. It will help me greatly if you can provide me on some insights on which to get! Thank you!!
3U or 4U is fairly subjective Jayden. We certainly don't think the 3U is heavy but both of us have only ever played with 3U rackets before. It'd be very different to your 88S regardless of whether you use the 3U or 4U. Are you sure you want to be switching to a head light racket in the first place?
@@Volantbadminton I was unwilling at first. But I heard the nanoflare 800 can produce decent power with it and is fast too. I’m a front court player which is why I love my 88s, but in terms of smashing I feel that its lacking :( so I am considering the nf800. But will you say the 3u nf800 is more sluggish than the 4u 88s? Like in terms of fatigue
I got that but what i mean is that i know about 5 ppl around me that broke nanoflare 800 with high string tension after few hits ~ 30 lbs, thats why smash power common, no high tension, but it is fast
Hey there, thanks for the message! We don't have any plans to review shoes at this stage but we'll have a chat to the store we collaborate with and see if it's something that could be on the cards in the future :)
Hi there Sirs, I'm an Intermediate player and own an Astrox 88D as my first Yonex racquet back in a few years. The smashing feels great on Astrox 88D, but sometimes it's very hard/uneasy for me to defend opponents' smashes by lifting and it takes a longer time to react. However, I'm getting into more control and speed like drive, lift, and easy maneuvering for net play. +Smash is a bonus too to have an element of surprise for my opponents to heighten pressure for them. I came across the Nanoflare series and having a hard time choosing between 700 and 800. Which should I get based on your advice? OR maybe into the Arcsaber series as well? I'm looking forward to your reply. Thank you!
I am a double player and comfortable playing both at front and rear. Of all aspects of myself, the weakest is smash defence. Because of that, i turned to 4U racket to get a fast swing while defending. If i get the Nanoflare 800 3U, does it reduces swing speed while defending? Im thinkin of using a 3U racket to gain more power for smashing without sacrificing swing speed while defending. Will this NF800 fit that? Thanks.
Hi Boy Boboy, good question. We think that the NF800 is quite fast and maneuverable even in 3U. So to have the best of both worlds, the 3U NF800 could be good choice for you. You can also practice hitting against the wall (with a heavy training racket too if you have one) to allow your defence swing speed to be faster too!
Hi Mohayus45, are you usually a front court or rear court player? And is your style more attacking (hard smashing) or more driving, flat play and defensive? If you're more attacking, I would consider the Astrox 99. For the other style, Nanoflare 800
Need Advice. So I'm a Intermediate level player with Agressive style of play. Played with Astrox 88D Game (BG66 Ultimax) for 6 months or so. It's a medium flex Taiwan made racket. I wanted to upgrade to Japan made racket and upon research found NF800 as an easy to play even balanced fast racket. I got it strung with Exbolt63 at 24LBS. Now my shots are not as powerful and consistent as they used to be with Astrox. So what could be the reason for this. 1. I have recently changed the racket, so I need to give some time for adjustment? 2. Choice of racket is not right because it's too Stiff for power generation? 3. Choice of string is not right? 4. Any other reason.
Hey Danny, thanks for your questions. I'd be lying to you if I gave you an answer about the 4U being released in the UK haha. I'm not sure. We haven't officially tested the Astrox88S but when I've hit with it in the past (using aerobite strings), it's hard to compare because they're both very solid racquets but their specs are very different from one another and I didn't use the Astrox with the same strings. To be honest, I personally would prefer the 3U NF800 over the 4U NF800 but that's because I prefer a heavier racquet and feel that the 3U is light enough. I think the Astrox 88S is also a very good racquet and it'll come down to personal preference. If you don't really like the feel of head light racquet, I probably would stray away from the NF800. Are you not happy with the astrox 88S?
@@DaNzDeCo In my experience it does, it just depends on whether you enjoy that head-light feeling. A bit less power on the 4U so I would expect it to not provide as much power as the Astrox88S unless you have a lot of swing speed. If you're fine with a head-light racquet, I'd certainly consider it but maybe find a friend who has it or have a feel of it in store if possible before making the purchase. All the best!
I was looking for a racket like this but on a budget of around $100. Any suggestions? Also, I don't have much power, so something a bit more flexible I guess.
If you have ever had a chance to hold and swing an authentic Japanese sword, an Itachi 27-inch long, you would change your opinion. It feels like swinging a 3U Z-Force 2.😁
Hope to get to those at some point. At this stage, it depends on the badminton store we are collaborating with as what racquets we test but when we test them, I'll let you know :)
Hi Lima, great question. We're not in a position to answer that to be honest as we haven't tested the z strike officially and I can't remember how the Z strike plays haha. Although, I do think NF800 would be great if you're a front court player. May require some time getting used to if you're a back court player and not used to head light rackets because the head light aspect of the racket is very noticeable :)
Volant Wear although he lost the match, I think his change from the duora 8xp to the 800 is something that I wanted to know for singles. I honestly think that it did pretty well for him in the game. At this point I might also get this racket due to being tired from head heavy rackets like the Astrox 77 😂.
Hypothetically speaking, If I have the NF 800 should I buy astrox 88d pro granted that I can play singles and doubles quite well? Since you guys give it 9/10 in power with the same rating as Astrox 88d pro, do they differ or has the slight tad of similarity? Great review btw :D !
Hey jhudiel, thanks for your message. While they are similar in ratings, they do feel a bit different. If you're looking for something that's head heavier but still isn't too stiff, the 88d pro (4u) could be a good choice. We like both the NF800 and the 88D pro - so perhaps you'll be similar? :)
Sorry but this may be unrelated. Can you help me how to adjust to a new racket what should i do?. Before i buy a new one im using a karakal bn 60 FF with 24lbs with nano pro 66 string i can say that im really comfortable with it and been using this racket for 2 years i think. Last week i bought a new racket which is a apacs feather xs which is a 58g hh racket with string bg 80 26lbs. The string feels dull also the racket is much shorter than my old racket also i cant seem to hit the sweetspot.
Hi Yusney, Thanks for trusting in us with your question, which unfortunately is a bit of a challenge to answer! There's a few aspects to consider with your new racquet in getting used to it. I guess my first question would be, what's the reason for using such lightweight racquets? 60gm frames are not something that I've personally used before so it's hard for me to get an appreciation for that weight range when it comes to racquets, as I've always used racquets >85gm. I'll forget the weight of the racquet as they're both very similar. For me, I think you need to reduce the variables you have at the moment as you're making it harder for yourself to get used to. So here's what I'd suggest: 1. If they have different racquet lengths and you're finding it difficult to get used to. I suggest you find a hitting partner and spend some time hitting the most basic shots (Clears, lifts, drives, drops) 2. Reduce your variables, re-string your racquet with the same string and tension as your previous racquet. Right now you've added more things to complicate the situation. 3. Stop playing with your Karakal bn 60 FF if you're trying to get used to this racquet. Switching back and forth will complicate things 4. If you're doing the above and you've been doing it for a while, then I think it might be worth considering getting a racquet more similar to your old racquet Hope this helps!
@@Volantbadminton Hi Thank you for your response. I just wanted more speed from my racket so i want to use lightweight rackets. Im playing this weekend so im going to follow your advice and ill decide whether im going back to my old racket or not. if im going back to my old racket i think i will sell my racket to my friend he really like my apacs racket.
@@Volantbadminton just to update i followed ur instructions i can say its effective thank you very much. Backstory i bought the racket and was strung last jan 5 and it arrived at my country at jan 8 then played with it last jan 18 for 4hrs the string was moving a lot and it was also hard like hitting the shuttle with wood plank, i notice now that the string weren't moving now and at settled state . i suspect that the string felt horrible when it was freshly strung so i need 2 weeks so the string to felt good and i can hear the crispness when im hitting and not as hard when it was fresh.
ok sure. i am currently using nanoray 900. plan to upgrade. had try head heavy and even balance frm yonex before(voltrix, arcsaber 11 and doura) but eventually stick to nano. mostly double. look to hear your review on nanoray!!!
It' really depends on what you want it for! If you're more of an attacking player from the rear court, you're likely to get more power from the Astrox 77. If you'd prefer a lighter racket, you'll probably like the NF800 more!
Hi, Would you say 3u is well balanced and 4u version would be head heavy ? I don’t want head heavy ... I am confused which one to pick 3u or 4u version. Thanks
HI Bharath, the U doesn't shift the balance of the racket, just the overall weight. So if possible, just consider the overall weight and what suits your game style :)
The other thing to note is that 3U is heavier than 4U. But as I mentioned earlier, the weight distribution is unchanged, just the overall weight. Hope this helps!
But I read many say 3u generate more power than 4u. It’s just I am confused which one to take . I felt 3u might be all rounder to use for singles and doubles . Am I right ? Or 4u would also be equally same? Since I do not have option to try both racquets here with my local seller.
@@ysbharath You're correct that the 3U can generate more power. 3U generates more power because it's an overall heavier racquet, hence can generate more momentum when swinging. The 3U & 4U are both suitable for singles and doubles because the racquets technical abilities are the same, it's just the overall weight is difference. I suppose you could argue that the 4U might be more suitable for faster play (i.e. doubles) given that it's lighter and easier to swing. How you decide whether a 3U or 4U is right for you will depend on what you are like as a player though :)
Volant Wear thanks for valuable replies. For a safer bet I will go with 3u.... I have already placed my order for 4u.. I will request seller to change it to 3u...
Hi Adam, great question. Strings are always a challenging question to answer because selecting them for yourself is more of an art than a science. For example, Jeff and I would string the NF800 with difference strings. He has a preference for Yonex NGY 98 where as I prefer Yonex NGY 99. He would typically string at 30lbs and I would string at 28lbs. In all our racquet reviews, we've kept this consistent to remove any bias that we have. At the end of the day, it's about trying different strings and tensions and deciding what you prefer. I've written an article about strings here if you like: www.volantwear.com/blogs/volant-community/there-are-so-many-strings-out-there-which-one-do-i-use
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Really nice racquet 👍 highly recommend 👍 the feeling of cut thru air is amazing👍 and automatically your reaction time on front court will be "rapid fire" ,just that for head heavy user , you need few rounds to get used to compact and faster swing racquet like nf 800 might miss hit some shot, but then once u will used to it , it's amazing👍
Agreed :)
I’m so happy I found this video! I’m finally switching to NF800 3U after spending two years with my Astrox 88D Pro 3U and Astrox 99 Pro 3U. I feel like it may take me a while to get used to the NF800’s speed but your review was more than enough to sway me. Thanks a bunch!
Glad it was helpful!!!!
How about the power compare to ur older racket?
just got the 3U G4 version of NF800. I never buy a racket that expensive but it is way better than my 10 years old one when swinging. I would say it is all round compare to my friend's astrox 99 pro and my previous rackets as well as my 370 speed backup racket. good quality and good feeling on hand and worth the price tag. The swing and the feeling is fast, great and solid. The sound breaking the wind is amazing and I got much faster than my old 3U racket for any front to mid court and it is noticeable by my friends as well. The only down side is the frame is smaller and so fast it kinda slip away, it is easy to miss or hitting the frame
Glad you like it!
This channel is so quick with the reviews. So helpful. I'm currently playing with the Arc11, would there be any other equivalence with other brands?
I was on the fence deciding between racquets but you've convinced me. Thanks for the review.
No problems! Glad it helped. Are you going to go for the 3U version or the 4U? :)
Volant Wear I went for the 4U, 5G. I have been playing with a Yonex Z Force 2 4U/5G, but it’s a bit unforgiving with the sweet spot, and I need to speed up my racquet head for my doubles, so was advised to look at something less head-heavy. Also dropped my string tension from 27 to 24lb. Hopefully I can work on my control a bit more than smash.
@@mp13r17 Ah I see, let us know how it goes and if you have any questions!
@PurpleRhino Difficult to give too much feedback on the differences between the rackets having only used the nanoflare 800 in 4x 2hr sessions in this last week and a half. And I have changed my string tension too, and focussed less on my attacking game, and more on defence at the front in doubles.
What I would say is that I can play a lot more back-to-back games without getting pains in my shoulder.
Control for me placing shots is better (previously “just out” shots have become “just in”). And I dont know whether this is a string tension thing, increasing sweet spot as an average player, or whether due to slightly lighter head. (??)
Whatever it is, it's working for my defensive play and better control. But my smash isnt as effective against better players.
Great review, very thorough and insightful. Great job guys.
Thank you :)
I use a NF800 4ug5 which is very solid at the front and rear court. I'm not a big smasher, more like a play maker. Would the astrox 100zz be a better bet for me? My ask is a racket which is fast enough for defence and attack.
Hart to say for you specifically Rohit. Have you considered a 3UG5 NF800? We prefer it over the 4U version as it provides more attacking power (provided that it's not considered too heavy for you and if you have a fast swing speed). 100ZZ on a like-for-like (i.e. 4UG5) would probably provide you with a little bit more power generally speaking, but you wont have as much agility compared to the NF800 with fast play. Hope this helps! :)
Henry and Jeff, do you think the shaft might be too stiff for players with weak wrists? I had a NanoSpeed 800 which has quite similiar specs (ultra slim frame and shaft, etc.) but it is an extreme stiff shaft racquet. I am just curious how technology has advanced in over a decade.
Hi Totoro, the shaft is stiff on the NF800 but it's still a very forgiving racquet. Depending on how strong your wrist is, it might be a limiting factor but provided that you have a fast swing speed, that should compensate for it with this racquet.
I'm more of an attacking player spending most of my time in the back , would you recommend the astrox 100zz or the nanoflare 800?
Hi Jason, we think the 100ZZ would be better for someone spending more time at the back of the court. The NF800 is head light as well which is not as common for players that prefer the back court.
Hi, NF800 3u or 4u? Do you lose a lot of power using the 4u? What about the other aspects of the 3u that beats out the 4u?
Hello Cyrus, if I were to put a number to it, maybe 10-15%? The other elements of the racket are essentially the same, it's really just the overall weight that's changed between the two. So anything that weight affects in a racket is different. But as with any shift in one direction, there will be disadvantages too. For example, being more powerful, means slightly slower speed. But because it's a head light racket and moves so swiftly through the air, it's more than fast enough at the higher weight (3U).
Thanks for your great review. I almost purchase the LT version. Nanoflare 800 it is.
Good choice!
thanks for the review! if i doesnt have enough power to generate when smashing, what should i choose? NF700, 800 or 88D?
for more power, id choose 88D out of your options!
Hey volant, i have watched all of your racket reviews and i believe your review is very helpful. What’s your opinion on the better racket for a front double court woman player in mixed double? Im thinking about nanoflare 800 vs 88s pro.
Hey Felix, thanks for your feedback :)
Hmm, out of those two, our opinion would be the nanoflare 800... but the 88s pro is good too (probably go for the 4U version as the 3U is probably too heavy). Do you know if a harder or softer feeling racket is preferred? If softer, we'd think NF800. If harder try the 88s Pro! :) Hope that helps
Could You write, what is Your favourite racket with all 10/10 notes? :)
haha we don't have any 10/10 :) But our 3 highest ratings have been the Astrox99 Pro, Astrox 88D pro and Astrox 100zz! Just our opinions :)
Thanks. I feel hard to use 100zz. Not sure why? Maybe the solid shaft is too stiff for me.
Hii guys great review as usually
What do you think using 3U model for rear court in double ? If we compared with 88d pro 4u model, which one easier generate power between bot?
Thanks a lot
You'd need to have a pretty big swing speed!
Can you recommend what string for NF800 to generate power smash and drive? And what tension?
I am deciding between Arcsaber 10/11, 88S/D and NF 800, as they are all at similar price range. Just wondering what would be your recommendation for intermediate, mostly causal double player? or any other suggestions?
Out of those that you've asked about specifically, we'd choose the NF800. In terms of other recommendations, check out the Volant Rogue S1 (even-balanced, all-rounder racket)!
@@Volantbadminton I am interested at the Rogue S1, but I am based in Sydney is this something I can try? Also you guys should do a review or comparison on it, good to have a baseline/reference point when comparing to other racquets.
@@helloworld8250 Unfortunately, we aren't ranged in any physical stores in Sydney at the moment. We do offer a 30 day trial/money back guarantee though :) Feedback from customers and how we went about designing it was to create a similar feel to the Arcsaber 10. Here is a review by a Melbourne based badminton player as well: ua-cam.com/video/Qqu6EUv4Po8/v-deo.html
Hi. I've used Arcsaber 10 for almost 9 years now and unfortunately it broke the other day. I'm considering to buy NF800. can you suggest if I should buy a 3U or a 4U version of this?
Consider me as an all round player meaning, I can play in the front court and as well as the back court. Thanks for the review again.
That will really depend on you! Was your arc 10 a 4U or 3U? I would stick to that weight you're used to!
Hii, great video! I'm currently searching for all-around racket but still with decent to great power, i'm considering NF800 since based on your review it has decent power yet really great on speed. How will it compare to 88D pro, 99 pro and 100zz?? Which one is better for me to get? Thanks a lot
Hi Bayu, that's a bit tricky because the NF800 is far less head-heavy than the 88D pro, 99 pro and 100zz!!! But if I was going to choose, I'd go with the 88D pro - probably the 4U to make sure you still have a bit of speed!
Hey,
I'm a mens doubles player and have been struggling getting a racket that suits me for a while, I prefere front court and defensive play but don't have a great smash, so I've used the og astrox 88s for a long time as it's slightly head heavy but I don't like the G4 grip size, any reccomendations on a racket that may suit me?
NF800 3u can balance all criteria, control, smash, defend, flat drive. 4u will sacrifice a little bit power but the key is 'rapid fire🔥' ..💪 .
id try the 88d pro!
So do you think that the n800 would break easily? In major clashes and in just mishits.
Ur vids are great by the way
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, unfortunately the NF800 breaks relatively easily with clashes. Mishits.. not so much that I'm aware of?
@@Volantbadminton Thanks a lot
Hi please give me the guide, which one between NNF700 & NNF800 it’s easy breakdown more than the another.
Which one do u pefer between nanoflare 800 and astrox 100zz
Like both but if we were to choose, probably NF800!
hi, considering the head light nature, which one can generate more power for clears and smashes between nf700 and nf800 ?
NF800 in our opinion
I had a carbonex 21sp for more than 10 years.. i recently purchased the NF700 but now also considering the NF800 / the new NF800LT. What are your thouhts?
Hi WahLeman, Thanks for your message. We haven't had the opportunity to test the NF800LT so can't really comment on that (we've been in lockdown for a while unfortunately and can't get to the courts to test any racquets!). But from our perspective (opinion only), the NF800 is a superior racquet. From what we can tell, the NF800LT is essentially a lighter weight version of the NF800, so if your preference is lighter racquets, then you could consider it. I guess it also depend on whether you have a 3U or 4U version of NF700 if you want to compare the same weight classes an making sure you're comparing apples to apples. Part of your decision will be dependent on your preference, the other part will be dependent on skill. Personally, I don't think there's enough weight in a 5U racquet and that weight class is really more suited to beginners of the sport but because we haven't tried the NF800LT it's hard to comment as we could be completely wrong! Hope this helps!
This is amazing thx for the video as someone who is used to the feel of a victor bravesword 12 should i go for the nf 800 or arcsaber 11 pro in 3U
Hmm I would probably say arc 11 pro but if you get a chance, give them a try
Great review. How does it compare to Victor Jetspeed 10?
Hi Dennis, it's been a long while since I've played with the Jetspeed 10 unfortunately so I don't think I'd be giving you a reasonable response to your question, sorry! We'll definitely keep it in mind for future reviews though :)
Thanks for the video. I am a high intermediate doubles and singles player. I broke my Astrox 77 (4u green). I liked it for singles but it was slightly slow for me when I played doubles. I also play with jetspeed s12 (3u first generation). I feel it is lacking in power for singles and sometimes in doubles. May be I need a racquet that is in between Jetspeed s12 (3u) and Astrox 77 (4u). I was considering between Tectonic 7, NF 800, NF 700, Astrox 100zz, Arcsaber 11 pro. What would you recommend? Also my smash is not strong, but I am working on it :)
I think you're probably more geared towards an 88D Pro, 100ZZ, Arc 11 Pro based on what you're saying. See if you can have a hit with these and gauge for yourself :)
@@Volantbadminton thank you 🙏
Should I get Arcsaber 11 Pro or Nanoflare 800, I'm looking for an overall performance but I've heard that Arc 11 pro is a bit slow on swinging speed...
Nanoflare 800 is much faster but both rackets are very good, vsmash channel has a comparison between the two rackets
Which one do u guys prefer between astrox 88s, 88s pro and nanolfare 800
NF800 :)
Hi I am currently using astrox 88s 4u version. However, I understand that this racket is a bit head light so I am considering for a 3u model. But at the same time, I'm worried that it might be too heavy? If I opt for the 4u, I'm also afraid it might be too light in contrast to my 88s. It will help me greatly if you can provide me on some insights on which to get! Thank you!!
3U or 4U is fairly subjective Jayden. We certainly don't think the 3U is heavy but both of us have only ever played with 3U rackets before. It'd be very different to your 88S regardless of whether you use the 3U or 4U. Are you sure you want to be switching to a head light racket in the first place?
@@Volantbadminton I was unwilling at first. But I heard the nanoflare 800 can produce decent power with it and is fast too. I’m a front court player which is why I love my 88s, but in terms of smashing I feel that its lacking :( so I am considering the nf800. But will you say the 3u nf800 is more sluggish than the 4u 88s? Like in terms of fatigue
Yonex have paid you? Nanoflare 800 got common smash power and it is not allowed to use high string tension. Power smash 7, durability 6
haha nope, no payment. We don't rate durability of rackets, sorry!
I got that but what i mean is that i know about 5 ppl around me that broke nanoflare 800 with high string tension after few hits ~ 30 lbs, thats why smash power common, no high tension, but it is fast
Do you also do shoe reviews? If you're planning to, can you review the Power Cushion Comfort Z 2?
Hey there, thanks for the message! We don't have any plans to review shoes at this stage but we'll have a chat to the store we collaborate with and see if it's something that could be on the cards in the future :)
Volant Wear ok thanks!
do you think that the racquet is fragile because of its thin frame and shaft?
Hi there Sirs, I'm an Intermediate player and own an Astrox 88D as my first Yonex racquet back in a few years. The smashing feels great on Astrox 88D, but sometimes it's very hard/uneasy for me to defend opponents' smashes by lifting and it takes a longer time to react. However, I'm getting into more control and speed like drive, lift, and easy maneuvering for net play. +Smash is a bonus too to have an element of surprise for my opponents to heighten pressure for them.
I came across the Nanoflare series and having a hard time choosing between 700 and 800. Which should I get based on your advice? OR maybe into the Arcsaber series as well? I'm looking forward to your reply. Thank you!
Go with astrox 100zz, supports your overall game play.
Since you test both the 3 u n 4u version. Which one do you like best? And why?
If compare to 11 pro which one has more power
can you do a racquet review of the volant rogue s1?
Watch this space in about 2 hours and 8 minutes :)
I am a double player and comfortable playing both at front and rear. Of all aspects of myself, the weakest is smash defence. Because of that, i turned to 4U racket to get a fast swing while defending. If i get the Nanoflare 800 3U, does it reduces swing speed while defending? Im thinkin of using a 3U racket to gain more power for smashing without sacrificing swing speed while defending. Will this NF800 fit that? Thanks.
Hi Boy Boboy, good question. We think that the NF800 is quite fast and maneuverable even in 3U. So to have the best of both worlds, the 3U NF800 could be good choice for you. You can also practice hitting against the wall (with a heavy training racket too if you have one) to allow your defence swing speed to be faster too!
@@Volantbadminton thanks for the reply! 😄
@@Kamikazejets no problems 😊
Which is better between nanoflare 800 and astrox 99? For double player... thanks
Hi Mohayus45, are you usually a front court or rear court player? And is your style more attacking (hard smashing) or more driving, flat play and defensive? If you're more attacking, I would consider the Astrox 99. For the other style, Nanoflare 800
Arcsaber 11.... Still it is worth to buy?? Plz review...
Nanoflare 800 or Li ning wind speed 72?
Arc11 is always a good option in our opinion. Haven't tried the Wind Speed 72 but we really like the NF800
@@Volantbadminton I heard that NF800 Razor frame is not resistant to clashes.. Any shuttle hit the Aero frame,the frame will broke
@@MrVikuni this is a fair call. Just don't clash 🤣
What do you think is the best racket for control and speed that has decent power?
Haha ours. NF800 is not a bad choice if you're thinking of Yonex
@@Volantbadminton Thanks i will keep that in mind 👍
Hi guys, what's the balance point of this racket?
Hi Miguel, I believe the balance point is 288-293mm
(Head Balance to Sightly Heavy), although we didn't test this officially ourselves
Hi, can you suggest a string and tension for a senior player for the Nanoflare 800 ?
26lbs
Is it good for Mavis 350 doubles smashing I like it with more power smashing.. and with good manueverability.. will it meet my game..
Not sure sorry, haven't tried the mavis!
Plz review nanoflare 380 sharp
Not sure we've seen that one here before!
can you give the rating for nanoflare800 4u?
Which is more forgiving nf 800 or astrox 77 or 88spro? All 4u
I am looking one racket for single and double
I'd say NF800 is most forgiving imo!
Is it head heavy racket
Nah more even balanced
Hiiii please do racket review on lining aeronaut 9000C I'm eagerly waiting for it....🙂
We'll do our best :)
This vs Duora Z strike?
Hmm... close one but we'd probably choose this!
Need Advice. So I'm a Intermediate level player with Agressive style of play. Played with Astrox 88D Game (BG66 Ultimax) for 6 months or so. It's a medium flex Taiwan made racket. I wanted to upgrade to Japan made racket and upon research found NF800 as an easy to play even balanced fast racket. I got it strung with Exbolt63 at 24LBS. Now my shots are not as powerful and consistent as they used to be with Astrox. So what could be the reason for this.
1. I have recently changed the racket, so I need to give some time for adjustment?
2. Choice of racket is not right because it's too Stiff for power generation?
3. Choice of string is not right?
4. Any other reason.
Where are you guys located ? I would like to buy a good racquet for doubles
We are in Melbourne, Australia 😊
I play with the astrox 88s 4U. How does the nanoflare 4U compare do this? Also when will the 4U be released in the UK?
Hey Danny, thanks for your questions. I'd be lying to you if I gave you an answer about the 4U being released in the UK haha. I'm not sure. We haven't officially tested the Astrox88S but when I've hit with it in the past (using aerobite strings), it's hard to compare because they're both very solid racquets but their specs are very different from one another and I didn't use the Astrox with the same strings. To be honest, I personally would prefer the 3U NF800 over the 4U NF800 but that's because I prefer a heavier racquet and feel that the 3U is light enough. I think the Astrox 88S is also a very good racquet and it'll come down to personal preference. If you don't really like the feel of head light racquet, I probably would stray away from the NF800. Are you not happy with the astrox 88S?
Volant Wear it’s just a bit head heavy at times for me. I’d love a head light quick racket with a bit of power and hopefully the NF800 4U offers that
@@DaNzDeCo In my experience it does, it just depends on whether you enjoy that head-light feeling. A bit less power on the 4U so I would expect it to not provide as much power as the Astrox88S unless you have a lot of swing speed. If you're fine with a head-light racquet, I'd certainly consider it but maybe find a friend who has it or have a feel of it in store if possible before making the purchase. All the best!
Volant Wear perfect! Thanks again for the feedback and loving the videos!
@@DaNzDeCo No problems, thanks for the positive vibes :)
I was looking for a racket like this but on a budget of around $100. Any suggestions?
Also, I don't have much power, so something a bit more flexible I guess.
Have you checked out the Rogue S1? :)
@@Volantbadminton Ya, I just checked it. I am afraid it is not available in my country.
Hi..is it 675mm or 670mm length?
672 +/- 2mm :)
Please review Yonex Z Force 2🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the suggestion Arif! The Z Force II is an older racket these days but we'll see what we can do
If you have ever had a chance to hold and swing an authentic Japanese sword, an Itachi 27-inch long, you would change your opinion. It feels like swinging a 3U Z-Force 2.😁
Can you do a video on z force 2 and duora z strike
Hope to get to those at some point. At this stage, it depends on the badminton store we are collaborating with as what racquets we test but when we test them, I'll let you know :)
Ok thanks
is the nf800 beginner friendly or should i go for the nf700?
Both are pretty beginner friendly although the NF700 head lightness could be easier for a beginner!
@@Volantbadminton hai volant, i think u should review nf700 limited, before others do
Which is better li ning tectonic 7 or yonex nanoflare 800? For doubles and singles?
Both great rackets; NF800 probably more geared towards doubles.
Which one is the best doura z strick or nanoflare 800 for doubles players
Hi Lima, great question. We're not in a position to answer that to be honest as we haven't tested the z strike officially and I can't remember how the Z strike plays haha. Although, I do think NF800 would be great if you're a front court player. May require some time getting used to if you're a back court player and not used to head light rackets because the head light aspect of the racket is very noticeable :)
Please do 800pro
Saw Ng Ka Long Angus use this in Malaysia Masters.
What are your thoughts? Think it helped his game? 😊
Volant Wear although he lost the match, I think his change from the duora 8xp to the 800 is something that I wanted to know for singles. I honestly think that it did pretty well for him in the game. At this point I might also get this racket due to being tired from head heavy rackets like the Astrox 77 😂.
@@Andy-ky3rh I dont think you'll regret it! Let us know what you think 😊
yonex nanoflare 800 or yonex astrox 100zz 2021
NF800 for me
Hypothetically speaking, If I have the NF 800 should I buy astrox 88d pro granted that I can play singles and doubles quite well?
Since you guys give it 9/10 in power with the same rating as Astrox 88d pro, do they differ or has the slight tad of similarity?
Great review btw :D !
Hey jhudiel, thanks for your message. While they are similar in ratings, they do feel a bit different. If you're looking for something that's head heavier but still isn't too stiff, the 88d pro (4u) could be a good choice. We like both the NF800 and the 88D pro - so perhaps you'll be similar? :)
Which racket do y'all think it's better for an intermediate player.... Nanoflare 800 or Yonex 100zz..
Pls reply me ASAP
That's depends on what you like! But would probably say that the Nanoflare 800 is a bit more forgiving for an intermediate player.
Sorry but this may be unrelated.
Can you help me how to adjust to a new racket what should i do?. Before i buy a new one im using a karakal bn 60 FF with 24lbs with nano pro 66 string i can say that im really comfortable with it and been using this racket for 2 years i think. Last week i bought a new racket which is a apacs feather xs which is a 58g hh racket with string bg 80 26lbs. The string feels dull also the racket is much shorter than my old racket also i cant seem to hit the sweetspot.
Hi Yusney, Thanks for trusting in us with your question, which unfortunately is a bit of a challenge to answer! There's a few aspects to consider with your new racquet in getting used to it. I guess my first question would be, what's the reason for using such lightweight racquets? 60gm frames are not something that I've personally used before so it's hard for me to get an appreciation for that weight range when it comes to racquets, as I've always used racquets >85gm.
I'll forget the weight of the racquet as they're both very similar. For me, I think you need to reduce the variables you have at the moment as you're making it harder for yourself to get used to. So here's what I'd suggest:
1. If they have different racquet lengths and you're finding it difficult to get used to. I suggest you find a hitting partner and spend some time hitting the most basic shots (Clears, lifts, drives, drops)
2. Reduce your variables, re-string your racquet with the same string and tension as your previous racquet. Right now you've added more things to complicate the situation.
3. Stop playing with your Karakal bn 60 FF if you're trying to get used to this racquet. Switching back and forth will complicate things
4. If you're doing the above and you've been doing it for a while, then I think it might be worth considering getting a racquet more similar to your old racquet
Hope this helps!
@@Volantbadminton Hi Thank you for your response. I just wanted more speed from my racket so i want to use lightweight rackets. Im playing this weekend so im going to follow your advice and ill decide whether im going back to my old racket or not. if im going back to my old racket i think i will sell my racket to my friend he really like my apacs racket.
@@yusneymadlansacay2963 No worries, good luck and let us know how you go!
@@Volantbadminton just to update i followed ur instructions i can say its effective thank you very much. Backstory i bought the racket and was strung last jan 5 and it arrived at my country at jan 8 then played with it last jan 18 for 4hrs the string was moving a lot and it was also hard like hitting the shuttle with wood plank, i notice now that the string weren't moving now and at settled state . i suspect that the string felt horrible when it was freshly strung so i need 2 weeks so the string to felt good and i can hear the crispness when im hitting and not as hard when it was fresh.
@@yusneymadlansacay2963 Thansks for the update, really glad to hear Yusney! :)
hi may i know the diff of this racket compare to nanoray900? especially the repulsion power. thanks!
Hi Azuan, we haven't used the Nanoray900 before! Will let you know if we get a chance to hit with it :)
ok sure. i am currently using nanoray 900. plan to upgrade. had try head heavy and even balance frm yonex before(voltrix, arcsaber 11 and doura) but eventually stick to nano. mostly double. look to hear your review on nanoray!!!
Which one would you stick with if you only had one choice? The astrox 88 d pro or the nanoflare 800?
88D pro! :)
99 Pro now too!!
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Enjoy!
Buying this racket after much research.
We hope you like it as much as we do!
@@Volantbadmintonexciteed and cant wait to play this weekend! Hopeful itll fit my playing style.
@@iambudzki1431 Good luck!!!
lining turbo charging 80,please
Will try!
it looks like Astec Aurora 1100
The colour patterns are similar but I think the finish and the over aesthetics of the NF800 are superior :)
@@Volantbadminton Astec Ignitor 311 also has similar colour pattern. My favorite old racket, affordable and fast, easy to use.
@@beck3740 we havent tried that one before. Will have to check it out!
astrox 77 or nanoflare 800, whats is better?
It' really depends on what you want it for! If you're more of an attacking player from the rear court, you're likely to get more power from the Astrox 77. If you'd prefer a lighter racket, you'll probably like the NF800 more!
thxx bro 👍👍👍
@@chaidirilham921 No worries, good luck!
This racket rapid fire ?
Very rapid fire :)
very nice review
Hi,
Would you say 3u is well balanced and 4u version would be head heavy ?
I don’t want head heavy ...
I am confused which one to pick 3u or 4u version.
Thanks
HI Bharath, the U doesn't shift the balance of the racket, just the overall weight. So if possible, just consider the overall weight and what suits your game style :)
The other thing to note is that 3U is heavier than 4U. But as I mentioned earlier, the weight distribution is unchanged, just the overall weight. Hope this helps!
But I read many say 3u generate more power than 4u. It’s just I am confused which one to take . I felt 3u might be all rounder to use for singles and doubles . Am I right ? Or 4u would also be equally same?
Since I do not have option to try both racquets here with my local seller.
@@ysbharath You're correct that the 3U can generate more power. 3U generates more power because it's an overall heavier racquet, hence can generate more momentum when swinging. The 3U & 4U are both suitable for singles and doubles because the racquets technical abilities are the same, it's just the overall weight is difference. I suppose you could argue that the 4U might be more suitable for faster play (i.e. doubles) given that it's lighter and easier to swing. How you decide whether a 3U or 4U is right for you will depend on what you are like as a player though :)
Volant Wear thanks for valuable replies.
For a safer bet I will go with 3u.... I have already placed my order for 4u.. I will request seller to change it to 3u...
dear sir review axforce 90
Send it to us 😂
What strings do you recommend
Hi Adam, great question. Strings are always a challenging question to answer because selecting them for yourself is more of an art than a science. For example, Jeff and I would string the NF800 with difference strings. He has a preference for Yonex NGY 98 where as I prefer Yonex NGY 99. He would typically string at 30lbs and I would string at 28lbs. In all our racquet reviews, we've kept this consistent to remove any bias that we have. At the end of the day, it's about trying different strings and tensions and deciding what you prefer. I've written an article about strings here if you like: www.volantwear.com/blogs/volant-community/there-are-so-many-strings-out-there-which-one-do-i-use
@@Volantbadminton thanks, this was very helpful :)
@@Adam-jg8ho no problems!
👍💪💪
Thanks Joseph/Joe :D
4U how much Indian price.
Hi, we don't sell this racket. But if you're interested in a 4U racket, feel free to check out ours: volantbadminton.com/pages/rogue-s1-racquet
..... really ??? its very HARD!!!!~ STIFFFFFFF SHAFT!!~!~!~
i think this " 球拍開箱評測］Yonex NF800揮拍都會有火焰！平推平擋神器 " is more close to my feeling.
We thing that it has a softer feel than hard!