None of them ever have a problem with the paradox that “We’re doing something revolutionary and never seen before!” and also, “You can trust us to make you money, because we’ve been doing this exact same thing for years.” 🤦🏻♀️
If the last few years have shown me anything, it's to not overestimate the collective intelligence of our citizens. Sad to say this BS continues to sprout every time another one bites the dust.
Yup, have you heard of Shoply? @ShoplyPartners (I'm tagging their YT channel haha) It now having a bit of a day in the light at least here in Australia it's starting to recruit recruit recruit.
With the recent election....and with Donald and his wife shilling out a scam coin....MLMs are going to be rising again. As well as Bitcoin. Like I keep saying in Independent Media videos, keep your money closer to you and be very mindful.
love when they don’t even pretend that you’re gonna sell the products to someone and they LOVE them so much that they want to join. it’s just like okay so you’ve never tried these products, and they’ve never tried them, but they want to make a difference so they’ll recruit so many people for you!!
I thought Tony Horton was that gas station with donuts and coffee. No? 😏 When the lady started off by saying she wanted to tell a story, I got visions of getting trapped at a party by a drunk girl that wanted to tell me all about a dream she had. noooooo.....😅
The analogy of putting on your oxygen mask first, does not work when you substitute a seat belt! Hahahaha......I'd love to see her belt herself in BEFORE belting in her kid.
The scary thing is, is that if you live in a family of four, and they’re all over the legal age, you could legit just recruit your immediate family! MLM’s/pyramid schemes could also target vulnerable ppl like me, a broke college mid-20 year old, or even elderly, retired people who might not have the best media literacy. Mlms are just scary honestly
They better watch out in the next 10 or so years because a lot of the "elderly retired people" will be Gen X-ers who *do* have social media literacy because we damn well grew up with the thing since the 90s hahaha
Oh, I would definitely be talking to the person who invited me to that bullshit. It would not be pleasant and would be the last conversation we ever had.
As was pointed out in another comment, nope, still recycling the hun language as it's supposedly from WorldVentures language. There is never "new" anything in MLM speak. It's always recycled from someone somewhere in some random MLM or Amway.
wow that was raw unadorned pyramid scheme pitch - find 4 people to sign up, bring them tomorrow, get them to bring 4 next day..... No get this product, try it and share it etc not even a pretence of it.
And there we go - best version of yourself; wellness; and Spiritual Wellness. The how long before they draw a pyramid competes with how long before spiritual/faith manipulation...
These "leaders" must have NO friends outside of the MLM. Otherwise, they'd be called out by friends and neighbors saying "oh, you're joining another one? What happened to all those great, amazing "wellness" products you were selling with Optavia/Arbonne/Pruvit/Isagenix/Neolife???" They'd be laughed at, so you know they only have friends who are either co-conspirators in the grift or downlines they are conning. They are shameless.
23:04 "put on your seat belt before you put seat belt for other people" THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, how can you put seat belt on for people in the back if you are sitting in the front (or vice versa) 😂😂😂 She meant oxygen mask (I think, as in during an airplane emergency) but gosh, she is clueless 😂
This whole “power of four” thing reminds me of a book series I read as a kid… the first was one “I am number four” and the second was “the power of six”, so a nice little mashup lol. Stranger than fiction.
I bought P90X when it first was released. Great workout program. HOWEVER!!! I was shocked when it became an MLM. I was like what the F- Just happened!!!???
Julie-you have to watch this lady on Erin Bies’ Live covering these Bodi coaches going over. I think it’s the same lady in this video. She is so panicked and trying to get the message to the Bodi people of how to keep their customer info, etc. they also talk about the possibility of Tony Horton or in talks with Tony Horton. Worth the watch
How long has the word 'ecosystem' been abused by MLM? BTW, a quick Google of the word Syona revealed that the word means many things in Sanskrit. It's closest to 'happiness', 'joy', and 'contentment'. 'Ray of light' is, however, an alternative meaning.
I literally cannot follow the dots. So, your original four are actually configured into two people who each have a down line person? So right out of the gate you have a Sophie’s Choice situation among your victim friends and family? wtf is that?!?
If Julie broke this down to all the fallacies and other tactics that these people use in their presentations we would be here for a few days hahahaha I'm here for the snark !!
So, they're selling poppers? Because that's the first thing I can think of when we're talking about nitrous inhabitants. And how nice of her to literally draw a pyramid to show of the scam. Very helpful.
I know a couple of the Syona founders, one a Blue Diamond in Kyani before it was Amare. Their president is Michael Brashears also from Kyani. They start new ones because they recognize the value of being FIRST. Becky Bursell a former top earner in Kyani, first IN position Syona US launch. As far as I currently know.
I would guess any MLM (or, frankly, non-MLM) company promoting health/weight loss are struggling in the face of GLP-1 medications. I know a few are even quietly including them. I would assume that they are either going to have to pivot, change the language (wellness, not weight loss), etc. to find a way to survive as that medication takes off.
id rather just let. liquid iv packets from costco tbh. they have a bunch of vitamins and minerals and shit, which is great for my newly-gluten free celiac ass (celiacs tend to have tons of vit/mineral deficiencies upon finally getting their celiac checked out, bc the damage to our small intestines from gluten autoimmune response over time can prevent absorption of neutrients thru the gut) and they taste fine, and i can get like 100 packets for like 30 bucks looool none of this mlm koolaid stuff. its literally drinking the koolaid and i think its fucking ironic as hell edit: okay so its like 30 sachets per 30 bucks, but i dont usually use a whole packet per bottle, i usu split it btwn 2 bottles bc i need extra water bc lithium+its effects on the kidneys, so thats why it seems like more packets i think. 1 dollar per packet is better than 3 dollars per packet tho lol, by far
None of them ever have a problem with the paradox that “We’re doing something revolutionary and never seen before!” and also, “You can trust us to make you money, because we’ve been doing this exact same thing for years.” 🤦🏻♀️
If the last few years have shown me anything, it's to not overestimate the collective intelligence of our citizens. Sad to say this BS continues to sprout every time another one bites the dust.
I can't believe new MLMs still come out.
Yup, have you heard of Shoply? @ShoplyPartners (I'm tagging their YT channel haha) It now having a bit of a day in the light at least here in Australia it's starting to recruit recruit recruit.
With the recent election....and with Donald and his wife shilling out a scam coin....MLMs are going to be rising again. As well as Bitcoin.
Like I keep saying in Independent Media videos, keep your money closer to you and be very mindful.
love when they don’t even pretend that you’re gonna sell the products to someone and they LOVE them so much that they want to join. it’s just like okay so you’ve never tried these products, and they’ve never tried them, but they want to make a difference so they’ll recruit so many people for you!!
I thought Tony Horton was that gas station with donuts and coffee. No? 😏
When the lady started off by saying she wanted to tell a story, I got visions of getting trapped at a party by a drunk girl that wanted to tell me all about a dream she had. noooooo.....😅
Hahaha can't believe I missed an opportunity to bring Tim Hortons into this 😂
She actually drew a gosh darn pyramid, I can't 😂
They villainize coffee, and they villainize sleeping.
The analogy of putting on your oxygen mask first, does not work when you substitute a seat belt! Hahahaha......I'd love to see her belt herself in BEFORE belting in her kid.
The scary thing is, is that if you live in a family of four, and they’re all over the legal age, you could legit just recruit your immediate family! MLM’s/pyramid schemes could also target vulnerable ppl like me, a broke college mid-20 year old, or even elderly, retired people who might not have the best media literacy. Mlms are just scary honestly
They better watch out in the next 10 or so years because a lot of the "elderly retired people" will be Gen X-ers who *do* have social media literacy because we damn well grew up with the thing since the 90s hahaha
Oh, I would definitely be talking to the person who invited me to that bullshit. It would not be pleasant and would be the last conversation we ever had.
It's not really 'the power of four" rather it is "to a power of four." Four who recruit four who recruit four who recruit four...
Love your work Julie!
Thank you! 🙂
Did she forget that she already told us she has six kids? Not exactly an endorsement for the "mental focus" those sticks provide.
Multi-dimensional, cycle earnings, wow we are inventing a whole new language here.
As was pointed out in another comment, nope, still recycling the hun language as it's supposedly from WorldVentures language. There is never "new" anything in MLM speak. It's always recycled from someone somewhere in some random MLM or Amway.
'we hope to partner with' the person we are headlining to get your attention
wow that was raw unadorned pyramid scheme pitch - find 4 people to sign up, bring them tomorrow, get them to bring 4 next day..... No get this product, try it and share it etc not even a pretence of it.
Meanwhile in MLM Hun game of telephone, they'll forget the "we hope to" part and just say "we are partnered with" hahaha
And there we go - best version of yourself; wellness; and Spiritual Wellness.
The how long before they draw a pyramid competes with how long before spiritual/faith manipulation...
A TIM Horton Doughnut MLM would be more viable.
🤣🎯
Now, not everyone draws a pyramid. We have now learned some prefer to draw a cathedral. 😂
These "leaders" must have NO friends outside of the MLM. Otherwise, they'd be called out by friends and neighbors saying "oh, you're joining another one? What happened to all those great, amazing "wellness" products you were selling with Optavia/Arbonne/Pruvit/Isagenix/Neolife???" They'd be laughed at, so you know they only have friends who are either co-conspirators in the grift or downlines they are conning. They are shameless.
i remember P90X from the infomercials way back into my childhood lol. its actually sad that this dude join this mlm, but honestly not surprising.
Hannah Alonso sent me and I love it here! You're doing fantastic work and you’re super entertaining! Keep it up💪
Thank you! I have so much respect for Hannah and the work she does, appreciate you coming over!
A capybara tea cozy - I want one!
Me too! Lol!
Thanks for exposing MLM. Can you cover Symmetry Financial Group?
I was JUST going to recommend Kat Benson's video when Julie said it!❤🎉
Yes cycle is a World Ventures term. The trainers said that whenever it was 3 right and 3 left it was a cycle and a paycheck.
Non-toxic skincare. As opposed to toxic skincare? Ok. 😂
23:04 "put on your seat belt before you put seat belt for other people" THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, how can you put seat belt on for people in the back if you are sitting in the front (or vice versa) 😂😂😂 She meant oxygen mask (I think, as in during an airplane emergency) but gosh, she is clueless 😂
If we add circles to the pyramid, and make the circles different colors, it looks less like a pyramid. Got it.
Thank you for sharing this! Holy cow 💩!!!
This whole “power of four” thing reminds me of a book series I read as a kid… the first was one “I am number four” and the second was “the power of six”, so a nice little mashup lol. Stranger than fiction.
I bought P90X when it first was released. Great workout program. HOWEVER!!! I was shocked when it became an MLM. I was like what the F- Just happened!!!???
I bought a set of the Turbo Jam DVDs before Beachbody became an MLM. They are good workouts. I was so disappointed when they went to the MLM model.
Julie-you have to watch this lady on Erin Bies’ Live covering these Bodi coaches going over. I think it’s the same lady in this video. She is so panicked and trying to get the message to the Bodi people of how to keep their customer info, etc. they also talk about the possibility of Tony Horton or in talks with Tony Horton. Worth the watch
How long has the word 'ecosystem' been abused by MLM? BTW, a quick Google of the word Syona revealed that the word means many things in Sanskrit. It's closest to 'happiness', 'joy', and 'contentment'. 'Ray of light' is, however, an alternative meaning.
I was wondering what language they were appropriating… of course it’s Sanskrit. Because wellness.
18:43 😂😂😂😂 Julie, I can't 😆. You're snarkiness is too funny
Lol!!
This woman is so bad at math 💀she can't even count the circles she's showing, she's just saying random numbers "now you have 10! now you have 42!" 😂😂
I literally cannot follow the dots. So, your original four are actually configured into two people who each have a down line person? So right out of the gate you have a Sophie’s Choice situation among your victim friends and family? wtf is that?!?
“Improve your… ummm… focus.” Nah, hun, I’ll take TIM HORTON over TONY HORTON any day!
This one is really bringing to mind a certain phrase, what was it...
Oh yeah, "don't drink the koolaid!"
That moment she started drawing the pyramid shape, oh no! Haha.
20:23 Multi-dimenional was used in another MLM wasn't it? I can't remember the name of it now, though.
What in the Scientology.
If Julie broke this down to all the fallacies and other tactics that these people use in their presentations we would be here for a few days hahahaha I'm here for the snark !!
So, they're selling poppers? Because that's the first thing I can think of when we're talking about nitrous inhabitants. And how nice of her to literally draw a pyramid to show of the scam. Very helpful.
I know a couple of the Syona founders, one a Blue Diamond in Kyani before it was Amare. Their president is Michael Brashears also from Kyani. They start new ones because they recognize the value of being FIRST. Becky Bursell a former top earner in Kyani, first IN position Syona US launch. As far as I currently know.
Six kids. Are they LDS too? 😉
26:52 As someone with coeliac disease, I wish non-MLM companies were also "always gluten free". 🙃
Hi Julie!! Continue to love ur content! I never knew that P90X was part of an MLM! Lots of people got GOT on that one.
It's all thw weirdly named ones that you gotta look out for. I've noticed that.
I would guess any MLM (or, frankly, non-MLM) company promoting health/weight loss are struggling in the face of GLP-1 medications. I know a few are even quietly including them. I would assume that they are either going to have to pivot, change the language (wellness, not weight loss), etc. to find a way to survive as that medication takes off.
In the last town I lived in, some had a license plate that said ILUVP90X like, common.
Wow
I really enjoy your channel!
Thank you! 😀
40:17 Oh look!!!! It's a pyramid! 🔺️🔺️🔺️
44:51 🤣🤣🤣🤣
id rather just let. liquid iv packets from costco tbh. they have a bunch of vitamins and minerals and shit, which is great for my newly-gluten free celiac ass (celiacs tend to have tons of vit/mineral deficiencies upon finally getting their celiac checked out, bc the damage to our small intestines from gluten autoimmune response over time can prevent absorption of neutrients thru the gut) and they taste fine, and i can get like 100 packets for like 30 bucks looool none of this mlm koolaid stuff. its literally drinking the koolaid and i think its fucking ironic as hell
edit: okay so its like 30 sachets per 30 bucks, but i dont usually use a whole packet per bottle, i usu split it btwn 2 bottles bc i need extra water bc lithium+its effects on the kidneys, so thats why it seems like more packets i think. 1 dollar per packet is better than 3 dollars per packet tho lol, by far
11:00 ish min mark the only person who should be paid to help you become the best version of yourself is a fucking doctor or therapist man jeez
@@FinnySpam🎯👏
Unless you work in a ministry or similar, your work and faith shouldn't mix.
Erin Bies and fam semi crashed their Vegas thing… it was a rather small event (in her IG stories)
Not multi dimension..THIS dimension! 😂😂
I love when you say "piece of shit pyramid scheme"
Hee-hee thank you 🥰😀
M-m-m-m-my Syona
The way she uses warm, attractive word salad language makes me feel sick!!! 🤢🤢
Isn't Becky Bursell from Kyani!?
It’s giving Jim Jones 😂
Also, your laugh makes me laugh. This is so ridiculous, but sad that some people are still buying it
It does exceed the population of earth which is why it has to go to multi dimensional!! 😆
Hahaha good point 🤣🤣
Another one
ANOTHER “health and wellness” drink???
Not the graphic being a pyramid. Like lady you're exposing yourself.
Those "the story" photos are so SO fake 🤣
No! I drink coffee so I don't slap you!😂
I feel that.
These things are lile whack-a-mole!
For me it's like dealing with cockroaches. Where you think you got 'em, nope another pops up somewhere!