My first digital watch was a Casio Marlin which was amazingly accurate. I only corrected it twice a year when the clocks were changing anyway. Every time it was only about 5 seconds out. I have had many, many quartz watches since but none have bettered this and most were worse. It drives me up the wall that manufacturers get away with such shoddy workmanship.
Thank you for this review/comparison. I have a Sinn 857 UTC and absolutely love the readability of the dial and build (Tooly) quality. The ETA movement is good but not as good as good as I have hoped. I love the UX but wish it had a GMT complication like a Grand Seiko 9F quartz. If they did I would buy it today! Thanks again for the comparisons.
Time Out Watches yes, I agree! For 30 years my every day “tool watch” was my trusty Submariner. Only last year did I start to rediscover watches anew after discovering the craziness around Rolex prices and availability. I naively thought I could go to my local AD and get a GMT Master II. Oh how the World has changed-and I resent it. The net result has been to re-educate myself on watches-and re-examine what is important to me in a watch. The quest continues! Thx again.
@@gilbertrose7147 My collection at the min is mostly Rolex Seiko and Sinn at the min I did tell my wife I wasn't going to be buying anymore watches but its like a disease :)
@@ClickSpringReview Yeah. But it's better than sticking needles in your arms or sucking a white powder up your nose! (Not that I've done any of those things - my wife kicked me out and left me exposed to my basic instincts - eat what I want, go where I want, buy what I want, spend as much time in the pub as I want, you get the picture.)
Seiko is coming out with new TUNA 300m quartz models the Fall. The will have sapphire crystal and cost $1,450 on rubber strap. They’ll also have the older metal hands.
Shipmate That should be interesting Ive been really into Seiko at the min I’ve got the MM200 Great Blue Hole and just last weekend the new MM300 in Blue that came with a sapphire crystal I believe that’s a first for the watch
I did a similar test last year with 2 Seiko, 4 Citizen and 2 Casio. Most were off +2 secs to +10 secs in 1 month, however one of the Citizen's was 0, so I checked it at 6 months and it was 0. These are mid range in terms of price and age wise are 2008-2020, interestingly the 0 sec Citizen is 2008.
@@ClickSpringReview Indeed. As you know, It's luck of the draw. If you watch Greg Anderson's couple of videos on watch accuracy, he tested dozens ranging from $5 to over $1000 and the winner was a $15 Casio. Another guy showed his two Snowflake Springdrive GS (? +$3000) side by side one was running 0.5 sec/mth the other 10 sec. Great vids, keep at it.
I have that Skmei watch. The first one I gave away. It gained about 1 second a day. The one I have now is crazy accurate. It doesn't gain or lose any time for months. Must be an anamoly.
One important question is how much have you worn these watches in the last 3 months. If they are not thermocompensated and are not worn they are quite stable as they stay in the watch box at fairly constant temperature
100% agree with I was trying to explain this to someone the other day , Only the Sinn's and Tuna I've been wearing and as it was over summer months its not so bad but come the winter I bet we would see an even bigger difference . I checked the Tuna and Sinn UX a few days ago ,the Tuna is now 4s out were as the UX is 2s
I have 4 quartz watches 2 citizen eco drives, a hamilton khaki ETA 251 292 27 jewel movement, a Victorinox Ronda 5030d 9 jewel. I tested mine over 3 months the Citizen diver gained 23 sec citizen chrono gained 18 sec the Hamilton 8 sec and the victorinox only gained 5 sec
This might sound crazy, but on the Seiko SQ100, just spray the movement with electronics contact cleaner (or WD40) to get rid of the gunk and it should be within spec again. It worked for my SQ100.
@@ClickSpringReview I've used (experimentally) many products on various quartz movements including lighter fluid and 100% alcohol. The sensitive bits are all hermetically sealed so there was never any damage as long as the fluids are thoroughly cleaned and dried after. I hesitate to tell people because it sounds crazy. :Þ
So I gave it a try but I used a toothpick to apply the WD40 and clean the small brass plate and wow it looks liked it may of worked , I'm impressed Thanks
Bought a Bulova Precisionist, supposedly refurbished, under US$100, out of curiosity. So far it gains about a second a week. For ten years my usual watch has been a solar/light powered radio-sync Citizen that’s usually within a second of the time on my iPhone - but it’s cheating. I have a cheap Sony alarm clock with a quartz crystal and a lithium cell backup that I allowed to drift. In ten years it gained about half an hour: bad crystal, I guess?
Could be or then again the mains coming into your house powering the alarm clock isnt always that stable , People think quartz watches are always dead on and a lot are but not all thats for sure
Its amazing some many guys think quartz watch are always super accuracy but this is not the case , should be interesting to check them out in another 3 months times
Seems a typical quartz accuracy is +/-15s a month. I consider that super accurate. Do the math. It's like 99.999% accurate, or maybe better as memory serves. Quartz crystals don't run at exactly 32768 hz. I have read they run the crystals a bit fast, then use compensating skipping of impulses every so many seconds. "Inhibition compensation" maybe it's called. But they still change oscillation with temperature. Really high accuracy quartz watches can be within 10 seconds a year. To do that, they use high rate crystals, like 8 times faster. And temperature compensation.
When I put new batteries in my Timex's they run a little fast, after a year they stay pretty dead on. As they get closer the a battery change they run slow. Once they get over a second a day I'll change the battery.
Sir! The second to last watch, the skmie (or however it's spelt) is amongst the cheapest down market watch you can buy! I wouldn't have bothered doing an accuracy test on it in the first place. I have bought a couple of these when I started collecting watches without any knowledge of watches at all. They're not serious watches but something you're more likely to find in a xmas cracker. I hope I haven't offended you but I was astonished when you included it in your assessment.
Hi David no offence taken Sir. The reason I included this model is I hear many people say, no matter the cost of an quartz watch it will alway be more accurate than any mechanical watch can ever be , So I wanted a good price range form £10 up to £2000 I'm sure if I hadn't include it some people would of said my cheap watch is amazing accurate without every testing it On my channel I've reviewed watches priced as low as £100 alway the way up to £35k so far
@@ClickSpringReview Hi, Click Spring. Your reply prompted me to go and look at my collection of obscure watches. All my watches are housed in a glass fronted display cabinet. The more expensive ones reside in their own display boxes but the cheapos are housed in a couple of reconfigured (10 to 8 compartment display boxes with drawers underneath the compartments for storage of spares and documents. The watches don't do justice to the quality of the boxes which are of a polished mahogany appearance with quality brass stay hinges. I'm pretty sure they aren't mahogany but still beautifully finished.). On to the watches, none of which are working because the batterys have gone flat, except one which is a mechanical watch and I've just wound it up and set the time to check its accuracy. They all came from Amazon. So here goes Weide - 4 pushers and crown 30m we WH - 1104 Jaguar - triangular shape SS mechanical movement 2 pushers to set date, day Crown to adjust time and wind movement. Two Time - oblong shape with clock face, strip reader for day and round face for timer/stop watch all in the oblong. 3 pushers, brass coloured case. Skmei - 5 pushers and crown. One pusher lights letters and numbers in digital windows. SKM-1155 Infantry - body in aluminium and brass movable bezel. 30m wr 2 pushers and screw down crown. Zeiger - ltd. Edition in ss Japan movement 4 pushers and crown All the watches have flat batteries except Jaggar which is mechanical wind up (not auto). I had a skeleton watch without a manufacturers name on it which was also wind up but gave it to a mate because his watch broke and I felt sorry for him. Wish I hadn't because he has never worn it and went and bought a cheapo plastic jobby to wear.
Yes it has to be sent back to Sinn it costs £225 or £250 and that covers postage there and back plus you get a 2 year warranty with it turn round took around 3 weeks the last time I had to do it , Battery lasts around 7/9 years
Hi Sir do you think its really to low as your the first person to say this , But in all fairness this is an old video of mine and now I have a full light and mic set up so maybe you will find the newer videos better
Really Rolex are the only brand to offer + or - 2s a day even my vintage modes are when in that , when was it serviced? and have you checked for magnetism?
@@ClickSpringReview yeah the .3 is a 25 dollar Casio and the .8 is an LCD from 2004. I was shocked how fast its running. Also noticing that quartz runs slightly slower on wrist with the small increase in temp.
@@tk423b Quartz is very sensitive to temperature as it affects the frequency its oscillats at , thats why you can get thermocompensating models like my Sinn UX its a cool but of kit
I aam not into watches, however my last two were Secondas the British designed Hong Kong made with supposedly Japanese movements. That are at the. Lower end of such watches. However both of mine have been amazingly accurate though a little temperature sensitive. I check them when the clocks go back and forward. They are never more than five seconds out. The first one died after about ten years, but aat the price they can be treated as disposable. I have an almost unused Omega quarts bought in the 70's that lays unworking in its original box. Omega want over £500 to fix it. So in its box it will stay.
Unfortunately with big brands comes big bills Terry but out of interest which Omega is it you have maybe I cant find you a new movement for it and save you some money . As regards to the Secondas they make solid watches I just serviced an old early 60s mechanical model
Hi it is a seamaster quartz with an omega 1342 movement they have a rather fancy way to set time. But it was never as accurate my Sekonda.any movement that old needs cleaning and lubricating. I do not even know if that movement can be regulated. Thanks
Ive done some research and the movement does have a few problems the main being the stepper motor and battery terminals and turns out the movement is incredibly hard to get hold off
My first digital watch was a Casio Marlin which was amazingly accurate. I only corrected it twice a year when the clocks were changing anyway. Every time it was only about 5 seconds out.
I have had many, many quartz watches since but none have bettered this and most were worse.
It drives me up the wall that manufacturers get away with such shoddy workmanship.
I have a Sinn UX EZM 2B and it runs spot on. Hasn't lost or gained in the last 2 months since i have been monitoring the timekeeping.
They don't get much better when it comes to time keeping
Thank you for this review/comparison. I have a Sinn 857 UTC and absolutely love the readability of the dial and build (Tooly) quality. The ETA movement is good but not as good as good as I have hoped. I love the UX but wish it had a GMT complication like a Grand Seiko 9F quartz. If they did I would buy it today! Thanks again for the comparisons.
Glad you liked the video the Grand Seiko 9F movement is a real stunner with interesting if it could be fitted in the UX case
Time Out Watches yes, I agree! For 30 years my every day “tool watch” was my trusty Submariner. Only last year did I start to rediscover watches anew after discovering the craziness around Rolex prices and availability. I naively thought I could go to my local AD and get a GMT Master II. Oh how the World has changed-and I resent it. The net result has been to re-educate myself on watches-and re-examine what is important to me in a watch. The quest continues! Thx again.
@@gilbertrose7147 My collection at the min is mostly Rolex Seiko and Sinn at the min I did tell my wife I wasn't going to be buying anymore watches but its like a disease :)
@@ClickSpringReview Yeah. But it's better than sticking needles in your arms or sucking a white powder up your nose! (Not that I've done any of those things - my wife kicked me out
and left me exposed to my basic instincts - eat what I want, go where I want, buy what I want, spend as much time in the pub as I want, you get the picture.)
It's a cruel world! 😆😆😆😆😆
Seiko is coming out with new TUNA 300m quartz models the Fall. The will have sapphire crystal and cost $1,450 on rubber strap. They’ll also have the older metal hands.
Shipmate That should be interesting Ive been really into Seiko at the min I’ve got the MM200 Great Blue Hole and just last weekend the new MM300 in Blue that came with a sapphire crystal I believe that’s a first for the watch
I did a similar test last year with 2 Seiko, 4 Citizen and 2 Casio. Most were off +2 secs to +10 secs in 1 month, however one of the Citizen's was 0, so I checked it at 6 months and it was 0. These are mid range in terms of price and age wise are 2008-2020, interestingly the 0 sec Citizen is 2008.
Wow thats very impressive
@@ClickSpringReview Indeed. As you know, It's luck of the draw. If you watch Greg Anderson's couple of videos on watch accuracy, he tested dozens ranging from $5 to over $1000 and the winner was a $15 Casio. Another guy showed his two Snowflake Springdrive GS (? +$3000) side by side one was running 0.5 sec/mth the other 10 sec.
Great vids, keep at it.
I have that Skmei watch. The first one I gave away. It gained about 1 second a day. The one I have now is crazy accurate. It doesn't gain or lose any time for months. Must be an anamoly.
Yeah they sound a bit hit and miss
One important question is how much have you worn these watches in the last 3 months. If they are not thermocompensated and are not worn they are quite stable as they stay in the watch box at fairly constant temperature
100% agree with I was trying to explain this to someone the other day , Only the Sinn's and Tuna I've been wearing and as it was over summer months its not so bad but come the winter I bet we would see an even bigger difference . I checked the Tuna and Sinn UX a few days ago ,the Tuna is now 4s out were as the UX is 2s
I have 4 quartz watches 2 citizen eco drives, a hamilton khaki ETA 251 292 27 jewel movement, a Victorinox Ronda 5030d 9 jewel. I tested mine over 3 months the Citizen diver gained 23 sec citizen chrono gained 18 sec the Hamilton 8 sec and the victorinox only gained 5 sec
Interesting people always think Quartz watches are spot on I think this year my Tuna has come out a sec better than my Sinn UX
This might sound crazy, but on the Seiko SQ100, just spray the movement with electronics contact cleaner (or WD40) to get rid of the gunk and it should be within spec again. It worked for my SQ100.
I just used a small air blower tool myself I wouldn't use WD40 myself but if it worked for you fair play Sir
@@ClickSpringReview I've used (experimentally) many products on various quartz movements including lighter fluid and 100% alcohol. The sensitive bits are all hermetically sealed so there was never any damage as long as the fluids are thoroughly cleaned and dried after.
I hesitate to tell people because it sounds crazy. :Þ
MichaelAChang that’s fair enough sir I’m going to replace the battery again but this time with a branded type and have a closer look at the movement
So I gave it a try but I used a toothpick to apply the WD40 and clean the small brass plate and wow it looks liked it may of worked , I'm impressed Thanks
@@ClickSpringReview Glad it worked for you! Another watch saved!
Bought a Bulova Precisionist, supposedly refurbished, under US$100, out of curiosity. So far it gains about a second a week. For ten years my usual watch has been a solar/light powered radio-sync Citizen that’s usually within a second of the time on my iPhone - but it’s cheating. I have a cheap Sony alarm clock with a quartz crystal and a lithium cell backup that I allowed to drift. In ten years it gained about half an hour: bad crystal, I guess?
Could be or then again the mains coming into your house powering the alarm clock isnt always that stable , People think quartz watches are always dead on and a lot are but not all thats for sure
Very interesting to see that quartz movements also loose/gain time.
Its amazing some many guys think quartz watch are always super accuracy but this is not the case , should be interesting to check them out in another 3 months times
Seems a typical quartz accuracy is +/-15s a month. I consider that super accurate. Do the math. It's like 99.999% accurate, or maybe better as memory serves. Quartz crystals don't run at exactly 32768 hz. I have read they run the crystals a bit fast, then use compensating skipping of impulses every so many seconds. "Inhibition compensation" maybe it's called. But they still change oscillation with temperature. Really high accuracy quartz watches can be within 10 seconds a year. To do that, they use high rate crystals, like 8 times faster. And temperature compensation.
When I put new batteries in my Timex's they run a little fast, after a year they stay pretty dead on. As they get closer the a battery change they run slow. Once they get over a second a day I'll change the battery.
I just changed the battery in the Tuna and it went up to something like +4s a month was +2 before John
Sir! The second to last watch, the skmie (or however it's spelt) is amongst the cheapest down market watch you can buy! I wouldn't have bothered doing an accuracy test on it in the first place.
I have bought a couple of these when I started collecting watches without any knowledge of watches at all.
They're not serious watches but something you're more likely to find in a xmas cracker.
I hope I haven't offended you but I was astonished when you included it in your assessment.
Hi David no offence taken Sir.
The reason I included this model is I hear many people say, no matter the cost of an quartz watch it will alway be more accurate than any mechanical watch can ever be ,
So I wanted a good price range form £10 up to £2000
I'm sure if I hadn't include it some people would of said my cheap watch is amazing accurate without every testing it
On my channel I've reviewed watches priced as low as £100 alway the way up to £35k so far
@@ClickSpringReview Hi, Click Spring.
Your reply prompted me to go and look at my collection of obscure watches. All my watches are housed in a glass fronted display cabinet.
The more expensive ones reside in their own display boxes but the cheapos are housed in a couple of reconfigured (10 to 8 compartment display boxes with drawers underneath the compartments for storage of spares and documents.
The watches don't do justice to the quality of the boxes which are of a polished mahogany appearance with quality brass stay hinges. I'm pretty sure they aren't mahogany but still beautifully finished.).
On to the watches, none of which are working because the batterys have gone flat, except one which is a mechanical watch and I've just wound it up and set the time to check its accuracy.
They all came from Amazon.
So here goes
Weide - 4 pushers and crown
30m we
WH - 1104
Jaguar - triangular shape
SS mechanical movement
2 pushers to set date, day
Crown to adjust time and wind movement.
Two Time - oblong shape with clock face, strip reader for day and round face for timer/stop watch all in the oblong.
3 pushers, brass coloured case.
Skmei - 5 pushers and crown.
One pusher lights letters and numbers in digital windows.
SKM-1155
Infantry - body in aluminium and brass movable bezel.
30m wr
2 pushers and screw down crown.
Zeiger - ltd. Edition in ss
Japan movement
4 pushers and crown
All the watches have flat batteries
except Jaggar which is mechanical wind up (not auto).
I had a skeleton watch without a manufacturers name on it which was also wind up but gave it to a mate because his watch broke and I felt sorry for him. Wish I hadn't because he has never worn it and went and bought a cheapo plastic jobby to wear.
@@davidashton2361 Sounds good David which is your Favourite?
I've a fair few watches myself most of which I've reviewed on my channel
So what do you do when the sinn ux runs out of battery? send it back to sinn? also how long does it last?
Yes it has to be sent back to Sinn it costs £225 or £250 and that covers postage there and back plus you get a 2 year warranty with it turn round took around 3 weeks the last time I had to do it , Battery lasts around 7/9 years
Please fix your volume. It's too low.
Hi Sir do you think its really to low as your the first person to say this , But in all fairness this is an old video of mine and now I have a full light and mic set up so maybe you will find the newer videos better
I'm about to need a replacement battery for my 300m Tuna.
May I ask you what battery you used? TIA!! :)
Jan Hi Jan the battery type is a SR43SW I can’t remember which brand I went with but never buy a cheap one it’s not worth it
@@ClickSpringReview Thanks very much for letting me know! I really appreciate it.
Very informative video!
Cheers Mads
They are all better than my old Rolex that gains 15 seconds per day.
Really Rolex are the only brand to offer + or - 2s a day even my vintage modes are when in that , when was it serviced? and have you checked for magnetism?
Could the one that gained 15 mins have become magnetized?
Rhett Harris being Quartz sir it doesn’t have a hair spring so I don’t think that would be it but worth a try maybe 👍🏻
I have four. Two are +.02 one is +.01 and one -.01 spd
which are them sir ?
@@ClickSpringReview Luminox XS.3001 +.2, Pagani (VH31) -.1, Casio 210H-1AVCF +.3, Nixon Megatron +.8. All seconds per day.
Interesting stuff the .8 and .3 are pretty bad my Seiko Tuna and UX and still pretty spot on , cheers for the info Sir
@@ClickSpringReview yeah the .3 is a 25 dollar Casio and the .8 is an LCD from 2004. I was shocked how fast its running. Also noticing that quartz runs slightly slower on wrist with the small increase in temp.
@@tk423b Quartz is very sensitive to temperature as it affects the frequency its oscillats at , thats why you can get thermocompensating models like my Sinn UX its a cool but of kit
I aam not into watches, however my last two were Secondas the British designed Hong Kong made with supposedly Japanese movements. That are at the. Lower end of such watches.
However both of mine have been amazingly accurate though a little temperature sensitive. I check them when the clocks go back and forward. They are never more than five seconds out.
The first one died after about ten years, but aat the price they can be treated as disposable.
I have an almost unused Omega quarts bought in the 70's that lays unworking in its original box. Omega want over £500 to fix it.
So in its box it will stay.
Unfortunately with big brands comes big bills Terry but out of interest which Omega is it you have maybe I cant find you a new movement for it and save you some money . As regards to the Secondas they make solid watches I just serviced an old early 60s mechanical model
Hi it is a seamaster quartz with an omega 1342 movement they have a rather fancy way to set time. But it was never as accurate my Sekonda.any movement that old needs cleaning and lubricating. I do not even know if that movement can be regulated.
Thanks
Ive done some research and the movement does have a few problems the main being the stepper motor and battery terminals and turns out the movement is incredibly hard to get hold off
@@ClickSpringReview it seems Omega have them and can fix them, but will not supply them to anyone else, which seems to be their policy now.