were the gas bikes waiting for you on the steeper climbs on the trail because of the a lack of power going uphill or was it just rider skill (or lack thereof)? No offense, just curious. Ability of the bike going uphill power wist is one of my concerns and just trying to get a good idea before I pull the trigger on one of these.
LOL! Totally the old man rider. The bike has lots of power and especially torque. That was my first time up that hill and the guys I was riding with are very familiar with it and are both super good riders. I just rode it again last Saturday and made it up much easier. With the stock gearing, I would say it would have a harder time with the steep stuff. With a 53 or 54 tooth sprocket, it will go up anything like a mtn. goat.
Just my opinion but I think in marginal traction situations like you found yourself in today, daily mode equals more traction. Especially when you're getting off the bike to push through Rocky sections. I was on a ride 2 days ago and, found when getting off and pushing eco mode was my friend
I agree that it might help to put it in D or E for pushing through stuff. I didn't even think about it. I'll have to give it a try next time. Thanks for the tip! As far as riding this stuff in Sport mode, I like it because it gets me up to speed faster and momentum is your friend in these conditions.
@@schreddersworld1050 yes I repeat the momentum mantra to my daughter quite frequently during rides. And there has been a few times I wish I was in sport mode for a upcoming hill. It's just the throttle control required in sport mode on super tight technical trails is a bit much
You’re usually the fast guy. These guys looked fast too. Would you have felt better on a gas bike on this ride or was the UB still awesome?? You mentioned the suspension I think.
Thanks! These guys were very good riders for sure. I actually like not being the fast guy as it pushes me more. I think I would have flailed on a gas bike as I am so used to the light weight and nimbleness of the UB. I was running a trials tire and I think the bike did awesome! I am looking at having my suspension reworked through ECR.
@@schreddersworld1050 yeah if you do the ECR suspension upgrades keep us posted I’m on the fence about that it’s pretty real dollars so hopefully it would be a big improvement
I hate to say it but that UB sounds anemic on that hill climb. You seemed to be struggling to keep any kind of momentum due to lack of power not traction. Those guys left you and they weren't going terribly fast, just keeping their momentum better. Thoughts?
Power was definitely not the problem. They were just plain outriding me. Riding with a trials tire and being my first trail ride in 3 months didn't help. They also knew the trail and what lines to take. I had never ridden there before. For the conditions, I was very happy just to make it to the top. I also have at least 20 years on them and I wasn't in very good riding shape due to not riding for a while on that kind of terrain.
@@schreddersworld1050 That's good to hear on the power! Let me ask you this, b/c it's hard to tell by video, does the short wheelbase become a factor on those steeper tech climbs where you're 'tractoring' (vs just blasting it)? I get the age/shape/trail-familiarity thing but just trying to get a better sense of this bike's ability when things get steep/technical. Also, thanks for pointing out the primary chain noise, forgot you had that in another video...definitely more noise (similar to the light bee). Thanks!
@@joshc3926 Longer wheelbase is always going to be better on hillclimbs. I think as far as technical hillclimbs, I think it's a give and take sort of thing. The shorter wheelbase is going to be better as far as maneuverability especially on tight, steep switchbacks and steep rock gardens. The longer wheelbase is going to keep your front wheel planted better and not be so prone to wanting to wheelie, but harder to maneuver in the tight stuff. On this ride with these conditions, it was hard to blast it as the back tire just wanted to break loose, then you are going nowhere. It was tricky riding for sure.
I don't remember exactly. I know it wasn't as good as usual because of the cold and pushing through snow. On my ride at the same place and trails last weekend I went 17 miles and used 57% of my battery.
thats an insane hill climb
WOW, don't know how I missed this video. That's some gnarly climbing, even looking steep on camera. Great job!!
Thanks Jet! Definitely a challenging hill in those conditions for sure!
Karley trail, great shredding man, if you don't crash your really not trying, keep schredding, enjoy your vids man
That Husaberg looks familiar 🤔 HEY Steve! Fun riding with you yesterday
Likewise, It was a blast!
Looking forward to showing you some trails up here.🤠
Check out the KTM 200 technical trail video which is the Talache to Bayview trail. I think you would like this trail.
I definitely want to come over that way and check out that trail system this spring!
Heck yeah! Let me know and we'll do an Ultra ride!
@@schreddersworld1050 will do!
You've gone to a roller chain right? I'm about to switch to one to hopefully get more range.
Yes, It will definitely help.
were the gas bikes waiting for you on the steeper climbs on the trail because of the a lack of power going uphill or was it just rider skill (or lack thereof)? No offense, just curious. Ability of the bike going uphill power wist is one of my concerns and just trying to get a good idea before I pull the trigger on one of these.
LOL! Totally the old man rider. The bike has lots of power and especially torque. That was my first time up that hill and the guys I was riding with are very familiar with it and are both super good riders.
I just rode it again last Saturday and made it up much easier.
With the stock gearing, I would say it would have a harder time with the steep stuff. With a 53 or 54 tooth sprocket, it will go up anything like a mtn. goat.
Just my opinion but I think in marginal traction situations like you found yourself in today, daily mode equals more traction. Especially when you're getting off the bike to push through Rocky sections. I was on a ride 2 days ago and, found when getting off and pushing eco mode was my friend
I agree that it might help to put it in D or E for pushing through stuff. I didn't even think about it.
I'll have to give it a try next time. Thanks for the tip!
As far as riding this stuff in Sport mode, I like it because it gets me up to speed faster and momentum is your friend in these conditions.
@@schreddersworld1050 yes I repeat the momentum mantra to my daughter quite frequently during rides. And there has been a few times I wish I was in sport mode for a upcoming hill. It's just the throttle control required in sport mode on super tight technical trails is a bit much
You’re usually the fast guy.
These guys looked fast too.
Would you have felt better on a gas bike on this ride or was the UB still awesome??
You mentioned the suspension I think.
Thanks! These guys were very good riders for sure.
I actually like not being the fast guy as it pushes me more.
I think I would have flailed on a gas bike as I am so used to the light weight and nimbleness of the UB.
I was running a trials tire and I think the bike did awesome!
I am looking at having my suspension reworked through ECR.
@@schreddersworld1050 yeah if you do the ECR suspension upgrades keep us posted
I’m on the fence about that it’s pretty real dollars so hopefully it would be a big improvement
I hate to say it but that UB sounds anemic on that hill climb. You seemed to be struggling to keep any kind of momentum due to lack of power not traction. Those guys left you and they weren't going terribly fast, just keeping their momentum better. Thoughts?
Power was definitely not the problem.
They were just plain outriding me.
Riding with a trials tire and being my first trail ride in 3 months didn't help.
They also knew the trail and what lines to take.
I had never ridden there before.
For the conditions, I was very happy just to make it to the top. I also have at least 20 years on them and I wasn't in very good riding shape due to not riding for a while on that kind of terrain.
@@schreddersworld1050 That's good to hear on the power! Let me ask you this, b/c it's hard to tell by video, does the short wheelbase become a factor on those steeper tech climbs where you're 'tractoring' (vs just blasting it)? I get the age/shape/trail-familiarity thing but just trying to get a better sense of this bike's ability when things get steep/technical. Also, thanks for pointing out the primary chain noise, forgot you had that in another video...definitely more noise (similar to the light bee). Thanks!
@@joshc3926 Longer wheelbase is always going to be better on hillclimbs.
I think as far as technical hillclimbs, I think it's a give and take sort of thing. The shorter wheelbase is going to be better as far as maneuverability especially on tight, steep switchbacks and steep rock gardens. The longer wheelbase is going to keep your front wheel planted better and not be so prone to wanting to wheelie, but harder to maneuver in the tight stuff.
On this ride with these conditions, it was hard to blast it as the back tire just wanted to break loose, then you are going nowhere.
It was tricky riding for sure.
If you could would you convert to AWD?
If all I rode was hard enduro, yes.
For what I ride now, no.
Hi! What was the range on this ride?
I don't remember exactly. I know it wasn't as good as usual because of the cold and pushing through snow. On my ride at the same place and trails last weekend I went 17 miles and used 57% of my battery.