ΟΤΑΝ ΘΑ ΤΙΣ ΣΤΕΙΛΟΥΝ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΝΑ ΠΑΣ ΝΑ ΚΑΤΣΕΙΣ ΓΙΑ ΜΙΑ ΩΡΙΤΣΑ ΣΤΗΝ ΠΛΩΡΗ...ΤΗΝ ΩΡΑ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΤΑΞΙΔΕΥΕΙ...! ΜΕΤΑ ΝΑ ΜΟΥ ΠΕΙΣ ΤΙ ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΕΣ ΓΙΑ ΑΥΤΟ ΤΟ ΠΛΟΙΟ...!
The inverted bow is not a new invention, it is a actually a very old design. Inverted bows were popular on battleships and large cruisers and were widely used upto the 1920's. They fell out of favour, as they were very wet at high speeds and in heavy sea. As you can see in the video there is a lot of water coming over the bow. It looks cool but there was a very good reason not to continu with this type of bow. Inverted bows maximize the length of waterline and hence the hull speed, and often have better hydrodynamic drag than ordinary bows. On the other hand, they have very little reserve buoyancy and tend to dive under waves instead of piercing or going over them. Which results in a lot of water over the bow, even at a very low sea state. You can see that in the video at 0:32 and again at 0:46 and 0:50. This can also be very dangerous for the crew when for example the ship travels at high speeds and at a high sea state in combination with a lot of sea ice. The ship will then tend to dive under the ice, thereby severly comprimising the safety of the ship. This not the way forward. Besides the FDI is way to small for a large modern navy. It is very small (only 4400 GRT) in comparison with all the new frigates (> 6000 GRT) entering service with the navies from the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, Norway, US, Japan, Korea, Canada, China, Australia, The Netherlands and Belgium. The French navy should have re-used the hull from the FREMM line of frigates just like the ua-cam.com/video/jiqSR4dx4EE/v-deo.html Italians are planning to do. This frigate has no room to evolve. There is no room left for extra weaponsystems, generators or anything else. This is a mistake and it is a big one!
I agree in most of what you say but for Greece and Eastern Medditerean where there is no ice it's the ship to go with. After all ancient Greek wood triererms had also invert bow and also had a metal plunger in order to ram and sink enemy ships. Same with the famous armored cruiser Greece acquired in the early 20th century that fought on the Balkan wars and by itself managed to single handedly bombard almost every ship and scare them to flee into the straits of Bosporus two times. And this ship after being restored and upgraded with A/A guns went first to Egypt and defended port of Alexandria from enemy bombings. Finally it was sent to patrol India Ocean to prevent Japanese convoys to support troops in Mianmar Malaisia Twailand and also outperformed itself. So yeah these ships are definetely for the Arctic or Antarctic circle.
@@Rousseau4469 Greece should have bought the FREMM EVO from Italy, it is a way better ship. Seawater is disastrous for a digital ship. I have worked at sea and let me tell you, seawater and electronics do not mix. It is a disaster waiting to happen.
@@frogfichtrlustr369 c'est même minable. Surtout qu'ils n'ont même pas mis de moyen d'autodéfense courte portée... Et après il vienne parlé de haute intensité
@@lucasperez7230not true. It has RAM (at least the Greek version ) Otto Melara canon and two machine guns electronically controlled by the bridge. Also Greek Navy intends to install two very proven devices build by Hellenic Defence Industriesv on it that disrupt communications of every kind of drone ( RF controlled or satellite controlled). So any aerial or sea drone will have very hard time to reach this ship. Both of these system signal disruptors have been installed as we speak to all other Greek frigates of the HN to ensure that they are armored against aerial drone attacks or USV drone attacks.
@@lucasperez7230 Il y a la place pour 16 VLS supplémentaire, en cas de conflit probable, elle peut passer à 32 sans modification lourde. Concernant la défense courte portée c'est en cours sur toute la flotte de surface on va surement vers la standardisation du couple Rapidfire + LMP, et lanceur Simbad pour les plus petits navires.
@tonyhawk94 toujours des on dis mais n'avance. Ils attendent qu'on a un navire qui coule ? De plus oui pas de grosse modification. Mais vu qu'on construit a chaque fois le strict minimum de missile faudrait encore attendre leur construction de qui repousserait de plusieurs mois l'installation. De plus les conflits l'on démontrer le plus important c'est les premiers mois..
Donc la réponse a là hausse du niveau de la menace c'est de baisser considérablement l'armement et de mettre aucun système de défense aérien courte portée ? Ok
No the Greek version pal. The Greek version has 32 cells for Aster-30 missiles it has a RAM over the hangar of the helo an OTO Melara canon and two other machine guns electronically remote controlled. Of the 32 cells 8 will be A-70 and will be able to hold same amount of MDCN missiles with a range of 1400 km. It's French version has only 16 A-50 cells for Aster-30 but has also RAM and canon plus guns but NOT the MDCN missiles.
@@Rousseau4469 No order has been placed for the A70 VLS yet! Also remember that you cannot launch an Aster-30 missile from an A70 VLS! That limits usage and of course reduces the number of cells available for the Aster-30. If the A70 is installed, only a maximum of 24 Aster-30 are available at all times. Strales won't be integrated with the 76mm canon either. Therefore it can not fire the Dart missile, thereby severely limiting its CWIS capability. Also the ship (at the moment) does not have any ECM capability. The FDI frigate was and is not the right choice for Greece. They should have bought the Italian FREMM frigate.
Lorient + cette beauté de FDI ❤ Vous nous régalez avec ce teaser NG, hâte de découvrir la série !
One of the best frigates in the World. Im very proud that my country Greece buys 4 of this amazing figates. Thank you France thank you Naval Group.
ΟΤΑΝ ΘΑ ΤΙΣ ΣΤΕΙΛΟΥΝ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΝΑ ΠΑΣ ΝΑ ΚΑΤΣΕΙΣ ΓΙΑ ΜΙΑ ΩΡΙΤΣΑ ΣΤΗΝ ΠΛΩΡΗ...ΤΗΝ ΩΡΑ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΤΑΞΙΔΕΥΕΙ...! ΜΕΤΑ ΝΑ ΜΟΥ ΠΕΙΣ ΤΙ ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΕΣ ΓΙΑ ΑΥΤΟ ΤΟ ΠΛΟΙΟ...!
Semoga TNI AL jadi akuisisi kapal FDI ini untuk perdamaian di laut Cina Selatan dan kenyamanan navigasi kapal seluruh dunia
Magnifique machine !?
Vive la France !? Vive Naval Group !?
Ini kapal cakep banget sumpah
The inverted bow is not a new invention, it is a actually a very old design. Inverted bows were popular on battleships and large cruisers and were widely used upto the 1920's. They fell out of favour, as they were very wet at high speeds and in heavy sea. As you can see in the video there is a lot of water coming over the bow. It looks cool but there was a very good reason not to continu with this type of bow.
Inverted bows maximize the length of waterline and hence the hull speed, and often have better hydrodynamic drag than ordinary bows. On the other hand, they have very little reserve buoyancy and tend to dive under waves instead of piercing or going over them. Which results in a lot of water over the bow, even at a very low sea state. You can see that in the video at 0:32 and again at 0:46 and 0:50. This can also be very dangerous for the crew when for example the ship travels at high speeds and at a high sea state in combination with a lot of sea ice. The ship will then tend to dive under the ice, thereby severly comprimising the safety of the ship.
This not the way forward. Besides the FDI is way to small for a large modern navy. It is very small (only 4400 GRT) in comparison with all the new frigates (> 6000 GRT) entering service with the navies from the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, Norway, US, Japan, Korea, Canada, China, Australia, The Netherlands and Belgium. The French navy should have re-used the hull from the FREMM line of frigates just like the ua-cam.com/video/jiqSR4dx4EE/v-deo.html Italians are planning to do. This frigate has no room to evolve. There is no room left for extra weaponsystems, generators or anything else. This is a mistake and it is a big one!
I agree in most of what you say but for Greece and Eastern Medditerean where there is no ice it's the ship to go with. After all ancient Greek wood triererms had also invert bow and also had a metal plunger in order to ram and sink enemy ships. Same with the famous armored cruiser Greece acquired in the early 20th century that fought on the Balkan wars and by itself managed to single handedly bombard almost every ship and scare them to flee into the straits of Bosporus two times. And this ship after being restored and upgraded with A/A guns went first to Egypt and defended port of Alexandria from enemy bombings. Finally it was sent to patrol India Ocean to prevent Japanese convoys to support troops in Mianmar Malaisia Twailand and also outperformed itself. So yeah these ships are definetely for the Arctic or Antarctic circle.
@@Rousseau4469 Greece should have bought the FREMM EVO from Italy, it is a way better ship. Seawater is disastrous for a digital ship. I have worked at sea and let me tell you, seawater and electronics do not mix. It is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Elle est magnifique cette frégate mais 16 vls c'est juste pas assez
@@frogfichtrlustr369 c'est même minable. Surtout qu'ils n'ont même pas mis de moyen d'autodéfense courte portée... Et après il vienne parlé de haute intensité
The Greek one has 32 and 8 of them will be A-70 giving it the chance to use MDCN missiles.
@@lucasperez7230not true. It has RAM (at least the Greek version ) Otto Melara canon and two machine guns electronically controlled by the bridge. Also Greek Navy intends to install two very proven devices build by Hellenic Defence Industriesv on it that disrupt communications of every kind of drone ( RF controlled or satellite controlled). So any aerial or sea drone will have very hard time to reach this ship.
Both of these system signal disruptors have been installed as we speak to all other Greek frigates of the HN to ensure that they are armored against aerial drone attacks or USV drone attacks.
@@lucasperez7230 Il y a la place pour 16 VLS supplémentaire, en cas de conflit probable, elle peut passer à 32 sans modification lourde.
Concernant la défense courte portée c'est en cours sur toute la flotte de surface on va surement vers la standardisation du couple Rapidfire + LMP, et lanceur Simbad pour les plus petits navires.
@tonyhawk94 toujours des on dis mais n'avance. Ils attendent qu'on a un navire qui coule ? De plus oui pas de grosse modification. Mais vu qu'on construit a chaque fois le strict minimum de missile faudrait encore attendre leur construction de qui repousserait de plusieurs mois l'installation. De plus les conflits l'on démontrer le plus important c'est les premiers mois..
Donc la réponse a là hausse du niveau de la menace c'est de baisser considérablement l'armement et de mettre aucun système de défense aérien courte portée ? Ok
Precies het is meer een escorte schip voor een Navo convoy dan 1st rank frigate. De Griekse variant is redelijk😅
Tu es un idiot?
No the Greek version pal. The Greek version has 32 cells for Aster-30 missiles it has a RAM over the hangar of the helo an OTO Melara canon and two other machine guns electronically remote controlled. Of the 32 cells 8 will be A-70 and will be able to hold same amount of MDCN missiles with a range of 1400 km. It's French version has only 16 A-50 cells for Aster-30 but has also RAM and canon plus guns but NOT the MDCN missiles.
@@Rousseau4469 No order has been placed for the A70 VLS yet! Also remember that you cannot launch an Aster-30 missile from an A70 VLS! That limits usage and of course reduces the number of cells available for the Aster-30. If the A70 is installed, only a maximum of 24 Aster-30 are available at all times. Strales won't be integrated with the 76mm canon either. Therefore it can not fire the Dart missile, thereby severely limiting its CWIS capability. Also the ship (at the moment) does not have any ECM capability. The FDI frigate was and is not the right choice for Greece. They should have bought the Italian FREMM frigate.
Semoga Indonesia membeli frigat ini buat mengganti armada yang sudah tua
Du coup y'en aura 20 lourdement armées ? Ah non seulement 5 sans armements dans 8 ans lol. 4000t en plus. Merci. Au revoir.