Overreaction Monday: Rich Eisen Talks Davante to Jets, Steelers, Falcons, Cowboys, Knicks & More
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Rich Eisen weighs in on the Falcons, Steelers, Cowboys, Jets, Raiders, Yankees, Dodgers, Paul Skenes's Cy Young chances, and Jalen Brunson’s team-friendly Knicks extension.
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I would love some episodes where they revisit old overreactions and what's more likely's and see how they panned out.
That should be an end of the season show lol
Should do an annual or semi-annual special for this, IMO.
Like the higher total - Skene's K's or runs by the winning team of the All Star game. I think they went with Skene's K total which was 0.
Rice and Owens played together, that’s the greatest duo ever. That’s the #1 and #3 WRs in history.
No. Rice was a shadow of himself by then. I get you trying to do all this goat crap that media loves for clicks but just playing together means nothing to me.
@@markkostka6897 What? In 1996, 1998, and 1999 Rice was racking up more yards, more targets, more TDs and more receptions than TO, while making All Pros and Pro Bowls, neither of which TO did in those years. Rice was injured in 1997 or it would have been more of the same. It wasn’t until 2000 that TO finally put up a better season than Rice. While Rice wasn’t putting up his ungodly numbers in the 4 years they were together, he was still a top 3 WR in the league.
I'd like to throw the Marvin Harrison And Reggie Wayne duo hat in the ring.
Fitz and Boldin?
don’t comment if you never watched the games.
Chris Sale is 13-3. Yes I'm a Braves fan. Paul is super fun to watch. It'll be interesting to see if they both keep it up.
DA is NOT going to the JETS 😂 for the love of god let it go. He was talking about playing golf with DA again. Y’all are fools lol
Don't be shocked if he is wearing Gotham Green if the Raiders stink this year for a 2025/2026 3rd round pick(s)
Until the seasons tarts, it won't stop😂
@@ryangresham2573 L take
It’s almost like it’s an overreaction 😮
@@zeebadeeba more like taking why arod said out of context lol
2 backs with 1000+ yards has happened 5 times.. last time being Jonathan Stewart and Deangelo Williams with Carolina in 2009. Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward for the Giants the year right before that also.
Didn't Harris & Blier do it in the 70s?
@@jeffbosworth8116 yes, thats one of the 5 pairs. Csonka/Morris and Mack/Byner are the remaining pairs.
Lions Montgomery and Gibbs only 55 yds short last year. Bank it this year!
And Brockman says "Probably never" to the question of when was the last time that happened
7 did it
Morris Czonka 72
Harris Blier 76
Mack Byner 85
Dunn Vick 06
Jacobs Ward 08
JStew Williams 09
Lamar Ingram 19
Mad Max with Wilkins, Wilson and Koonce keeping the olines busy.
Aiden O'Connel didn't know the playbook. Not to mention he was a rookie who had to switch playbooks right in the middle and still won 5 very difficult games. You don't think with a well known playbook and natural growth he isn't going to be better? There is a reason O'Connel is going to start over Minshew knowing he will be the highest paid backup in the league. Oconell is going to be that good just sit and watch. And yes Maxx will be DPOY because we will be in the playoffs. That has been the deciding factor and why Maxx has gotten his. This year sit n watch boys it will be an amazing show.
I agree with Chris on Steelers RBs! With an upgraded O line & QB Plus Smith as OC both Najee and Jaylen can absolutely put up 1K
I'm afraid with two new offensive lineman and Jones move to left tackle it's going to take another half a season to gel just like the last 2 years.
@@AL-B-BACHThey got close last year. If Najee can average near 5 ypc and Jaylen not fumble to much they will do it.
Re Carr-Davante, Carr still delivered him the ball despite McDaniel's sabotaging that team.
Mcdaniels is trash
@@martinezjames83 100% carr may not have been the long term answer for the raiders, but him and davante got screwed when McDaniels came in.
@martinezjames83 as a Broncos fan, I can confirm. Hopefully, he never gets an HC job again...
Maxx Crosby will win DP of the year
that would be awesome.. hope they make the playoffs this year
The dark horse has to be Montez Sweat.
THANK YOU RICH!!!
Finally someone recognizes that the frustration Davante expressed in Receiver was during the Josh McDaniels and Jimmy G time, and that he is much happier with AP and AOC and the overall direction of the Raiders. Everybody else is conflating that with how he feels now, which is not the same. He grew up a Raiders fan and likes living in Vegas closer to his family. Sure he would love to play with his good friend Aaron Rodgers again, but Right now he wants to be a Raider.
If anything Rodgers to LV
there's a -infinity% of that happening
It's honestly more likely than the other way around. Do people really think Rodgers in NY is a thing? This is his last year there.
This can happen for sure
Chris should get a job at ESPN that was the worst take I've ever heard in my life. Best WR in history?! They wouldn't even be the best WR duo today.
Davante grew up a Raiders fan, he’s all in on AP. He ain’t going nowhere
Last pair of 1,000 yard rushers was in 2019 with Lamar Jackson and Mark Ingram. Before that was the '09 Panthers (each over 1,100) in Stewart and Williams. The year before had the Giants with Jacobs and Ward. In total there's been 7 instances.
Ummm the best we combo is Rice and TO. You cannot argue that. Literally the number 1 and 2, of all time, at the same time.
I love that "one more" drop too
It’s a classic
Please keep in mind that Tae was portrayed in that Receivers special a certain way. It’s also got Patrick Mahomes as a producer on that show. 17 is a Raider this year, end of story.
The disrespect to Moss and Carter with that question is insane
Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison Sr
i locked in a bet like a month ago when brockman said skenes was winning the cy young and thats looking mighty nice right about now
People are mentioning Rice & Owens (definitely the best duo ever), and Moss & Carter as #2 - also correct - but another top duo is Steve Smith & Muhsin Muhammad with Carolina, who are #1 & #2 in receiving in that team's history. Muhammad was ridiculously good in many years, and Smith is a future HOFer. Marvin Harrison & Reggie Wayne is also a great duo, and don't forget Rice & Tim Brown on the Raiders. Brown played in the shadow of Rice his whole career, but he's also a HOFer and his career numbers are mostly top-10 in every category.
For people who are not familiar with how the Pirates do business, they will bench Skenes before they let him win the Cy Young. They lose a year of control on him if he wins the Cy Young, and the Pirates, as a poverty franchise, are never gonna let that happen.
So glad to see ORM back where it should be... On the set with the whole crew.
Hey Mr. Eisen, steelers Harris and Bleier, both had over 1000 yards in 1976. Oh and with fewer reg season games.
Rich is 100% right about Adams... as a raiders fan i feel like that is a well thought statement
Chris Jones DPOY this year. Book it!
maybe.. better chance of that happening than the theee peat
Why we pretending Davante going to NY means an automatic SB ring? He left GB for 2 reasons, a big contract and the uncertainty about Rodgers, he said it multiple times before. Nobody knows if Rodgers in NY is even a thing, he may ask for a trade again right after this season for all we know. Davante loves the dude and all but he's not going back to that for just "a chance".
Lamar Jackson and Mark Ingram ran for 1000 yards each in 2019, Johnathan Stewart and DeAngelo Williams for Carolina in 2009, Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward for the Giants in 2008, Vick and Dunn in Atlanta in 2006. If you want to exclude the qb's, since 1985 there's been 2 Running Back tandem's to reach 1000 yards
Pitts proving the don’t draft a tight end round 1 crowd extremely correct. It makes it worse considering they passed on Micah parsons for him. At least Micah doesn’t need a qb to get him activated
Chris Jones should be in this conversation.
1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Extreme Overreaction
4. I like the Steelers but overreaction
5. Agreed about Skenes
The first time I heard the term over reaction Monday was quite a while ago, Eric Mangini used the term when he was with ESPN. I watch a lot of these talkshows and it seems to me Erin Mangini was the first one to use that term. Am I right or am I wrong?
Najee and Warren both getting 1k doesn't seem outlandish to me if they were that close last year. And Skenes could end up limited to end the year if the Pirates aren't in a Wild Card chase so he'll get ROY but Sale or Wheeler will win Cy Young.
Brockman makes the show worth watching. I love Rich but his takes are always so vanilla and he always plays it safe because he works for the NFL. This show would be nothing without Brockman's wild takes and segments
Honestly you’re right. He’s a good foil to Eisen being so “proper”
Crazy suppositions 😂😂
I went to UF for 3 years, Kyle Pitts was one of the best athletes ive ever seen. Arthur Smith had him blocking while the second string TE was catching passes, if he doesnt pop off this year then idk
TJ Watt your right Rich. Parsons isn't even in the same conversation as TJ Watt. TJ will have better stats this year than he did last year.
Devon Witherspoon is my pick for DPoTY
Pitts is a backup TE in fantasy until proven otherwise.
If Davante was going to the Jets, it would have happened in the offseason. He wants to be a Raider, he's a west coast guy, and being close to his family and wearing the Silver and Black outweighs playing with Rodgers on a Jets team that just never seems to get any better, and always seems to find a way to lose. He has "blessed" Aidan O'Connell as QB1 and believes in his ability. He's also cheap and they will be able to afford to put pieces around him for a few years. They currently have $35M in cap space.
Maxx will make everyone feel silly (:
He already does
Gibbs and Montgomery both almost rushed for 1000 last year with Gibbs being 55 yards short of 1000.
It's more likely the Raiders will get Rodgers than Adams will go to the Jets. Rice and Brown also played together.
Maybe Rodgers is laying the ground work for the Raiders to sign him after his New York contract is up. Rodgers, Adams & Brady as part of the Raiders organization.
Don't disrespect Matty Ice. Pitts broke rookie TE records for a reason.
At first I thought I was watching Will Sasso talk about sports 😅
2 thousand years rushers has happened before 1972 Miami Dolphins did it with Kick and Csonka.
Kiick.
@@roguebossa yeah, autocorrect got me. LOL
In 2022 the cowboys had pollard with 1007yds and zeke had 876yds. Yeah it can be done with good backs and proper game plan.
Adams and wilson could be argued as the second best wr duo in their division lol
Are you saying Waddle and Tyreek are #1?
@@christopherweise438Tyreek and Waddle*
My Lions are going to have two 1,000 yard rushers David Montgomery Jameer Gibbs🤘🏽
Can we please get someone who knows a little football history for some of these.
Best WR duo of all time? Jerry Rice played with both Terrel Owens and Tim Brown at different points. Julio Jones and Roddy White. Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt. Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison.
And nobody has had 2 1000 yard rushers? I don't know if it's happened ten times but I'd bet it's that. I know off the top of my head the 70s dolphins with Kiik Mercury and Csonka. I know Franco Harris and somebody else did it with the steelers. I know Jonathon Stewart and D'Angelo Williams did it. I know Lamar and Ingram did it. I know Vick and Dunn did it.
I feel like the WR duo of AB & Mike Evans won’t get talked about as greatest ever because of how short lived it was. Godwin was the 3 for gods sake
I’m pretty sure DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart both rushed for over 1k back in 2008 or 2009
Did chris claim TJ only gets DPOY votes because JJ influences the voters? Every time he talks about the steelers his hatred shows through like a jilted ex who never got over the break up.
It confuses me why receivers, who have already been paid, don't want to at least give a season or two of their career to play with the Greatest QB of all Time.
Jalen Carter DPOY
Eisen only one with brains in his head,other two comical 😂😂😂
Defensive player of the year New York Giants Kayvon thibodeaux
You guys are always all about the money. You know who else has taken less money so the team might be better? Patrick Mahomes, and Tom Brady. It worked out pretty well for them.
Mahomes contract is almost half a billion dollars lmao yall weirdos
Adams wanted to leave a great QB in Green Bay, yes Carr not working out did do him dirty but... he kinda had to see at least some of these struggles coming.
He wanted to leave GB because he felt disrespected with his contract extension offer. Wasn't about Rodgers at all.
@@bradleygermain6288 Well, it was about Rodgers too... he left because of his contract + Rodgers talks about leaving GB every year. Davante said it multiple times.
@@outerdimension7276 That's not bc of Rodgers though. That was an organizational issue. I live in Green Bay. Heard about it daily.
Patriots had 2 1000 yd rushers in the 80s..craig ajmes, cant remember the other one? Browns in the 80s too?? Kevin Mack and Earnest Byner??
Jet's should be trading for good O linemen. If Rodgers isn't upright, it doesn't matter who he has to throw to.
Larry Csonka and Mercury Morris both had at least 1000 yards rushing on the perfect 1972 Dolphins. So they were wrong that it never happened. Now in fairness I don't see any way of it happening again because the NFL is all about passing now.
Najee and Jaylen for 1000 💪
Jerry Rice & T.O. was quite the duo in SF....just sayin
CAROLINA PANTHERS HAD TWO 1K YARD RUSHERS!!!!!! diangalo williams and Johnathan stewart. Man people NEVER give carolina love
Interesting
Rich Eisen pays attention to detail, everyone is taking Devante adams quotes when mcdummy was the head coach and running with it..and also Rodgers might be able to play with adams again but as a Raider after this year..
Cris Carter and Randy Moss are the best WR duo in NFL history
Yeah sure that's why they got all them rings on them fingers😂
@WHOOP1976 over 21k yards between them and a combined 14 pro bowls.....yea, they're goats, man. rings don't mean everything
@@WHOOP1976🤦♂️
rice and to up there
@@ringostarrBestBeatlerice and Tim brown
kyle pitts might as well be jamarcus russell 2.0
How bout Aaron Rodger’s to the Raiders
Antoine Winfield JR DPOY
WATT OVER MAD MAXX CROSBY?
I don't know. I kinda think Pitts is one of those guys who was great in college but only mediocre in the pros. NFL history is replete with those kind of players. We'll see.
Talking about Cy Young races on a nationally broadcast show and the only stat brought up is wins. 😭
If the Jets got DA they still wouldn’t have the best WR duo in the division lol
They’d have the best WR trio though
Hutchinson DPOY
More likely that AArod goes to Vegas
😂😂😂😂 Jets are not trading him to the Raiders
@@Bornraider6978 he could quit on them like he did the packers
@jamesoncatlett6784 lmao that's hilarious. I mean hell Mahomes could demand to be a Raider tomorrow, same with Burrow and Allen.
@@Bornraider6978 Neither of those guys have a history of quitting on a team and demanding a trade
How many receivers in NFL history had 1000 yard seasons iat age 32 or higher ? You basically have Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne, Derrick Mason, Donald Driver, Cris Carter and Tim Brown…. And like 8 seasons of Jerry Rice. And most of those guys were then done by 34-35. Basically, it means history is not on Davante Adams’s side for not just this year but any future years the Jets may hope they can get him for.
Thielen did this year w the panthers as well, but agreed, its just not common same with rbs.
D.A. to S.F. 49ers!
If Davante Adams gets traded to the Jets, they still don't have the best WR duo in their division, never mind history lol.
Oh yeah
"Russ" may go for 1000 yards himself? As in Russell Wilson's corpse? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rodgers is going to the Raiders next year. That's what he meant. What is wrong with these guys?
Gibbs and Montgomery going for 1K each before Najee and Warren
Josh hines allen. I wouldn't be surprised
TJ did tell you.
And now he told you again
Jets fans won't let their copium go. Adams isn't moving.
If there are going to be 2 1,000 yard rushers it'll be in Detroit come on now
Davante and Wilson wouldn't even be the best WR duo in their DIVISION.
DPOY aint gonna be Micah..that ain't happening.
I would hope Adams realizes that every year he spends in LV damages his chances of making the Hall of Fame.
Won't surprise me if Davante becomes a Jet around the trade deadline. The Raiders may well be winless at the deadline. No QB. Head coach is broke. Their RB is in GB. Davante deserves better than that. It'd be fun to see him catching passes from AR again.
U a bronco fan huh
@@noname-qb7ir lol No.
Is Kirk Cousins going to connect with London and Pitts? Idk is Cousins' Achilles going to stay connected to his foot
🤡
Adams and Wilson wouldnt even be the best current wr duo, thats the boys in miami.
Maxx Crosby will win Dpoy
Thank God Rich doesn't believe the bs that people saying in NY.
Adams & Wilson aint even better
than Diggs & Dell or Pukachu ⚡ Nacua & Coop Loops
2:19
Pittsburgh will most likely start with Wilson and they play the Ravens, the Bengals and the Browns twice a year, it's not an easy recipe in cooking a palatable meal.
Steelers 5-1 in division last year with historically bad QB play. They are 7-1 against ravens in last 8 matchups. Do your research 😂