12GA 00 Buckshot Pattern at 100 Yards- Benelli Nova 12 Mod Choke
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- What does the spread look like from 12ga Buckshot at 100 yards? We tested out this Benelli Nova 12 at 100 yards with 12ga 00 buckshot. The spread was really wide, some of it hit the ground and some even hit the steel target six feet to the right. Some did make it on the target though. Probably not useful for long engagements.
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You’re definitely not safe from a shotgun 100yds away! One or two pellets in your gut is no joke
definitely and it seemed 1 went perfectly straight on. I'd say that'll do.
@@dmre0 so the cardboard got hit by ONE BB?
@@samiam619 it's double ought buck, just a little smaller than a 9mm. Hardly a bb
A deer slug you are not safe out to two hundred yards promise 😊
@@samiam619 a baby that's equivalent to a 30 caliber almost the same as a 9 mm.
It will keel.
At a prison I worked at long years ago, we had an inmate who was known for having been shot off of the fence as he tried to escape while on the rec field. A female officer, using one of our old 870 Wingmasters supposedly made a hundred yard (+/-) shot and one 00 buck pellet hit him in a butt cheek and ended his escape attempt.
Inmate got the million dollar wound 😂
@@BattlefieldCuratorol, I doubt he was sent home!! 😅😂
Right in buttocks😂
She tore home a new one
@@MyS10Rocks
Right! He was still there, years later, when I worked there. He was actually one of the nicer, more agreeable, inmates. I don't know what he was like before the shot, but maybe it adjusted his attitude.
I tested buckshot from a Mossberg with an 18” cylinder bore barrel across a lake. I aimed level at about 6’ above the water and watched where every pellet splashed down. I expected a random pattern with every shot but was surprised to find the patter was similar every time. One pellet dropped off about 200 yards out every time, and the rest made it around 300 or so. I used to carry buckshot for bear protection but switched to slugs when the grizzly population started booming in Alberta. A rifle is probably a better choice but we have strange carry laws here.
That's actually really interesting, I'll have to look into that. and also, I'm glad you're staying strapped one way or another.
If it was 9 pellet buck it might explain the one pellet dropping off, for some reason there's often 1 "flyer" with 9 pellets, the other 8 stay relatively tight together though
Our family always used #1 buck. OO is 9 .35 cal balls while #1 is 16 .28 cal.
@@mikenorthrop5815Paul harrel fan
My dude lived in Alaska for years. He said he carried a 44mag with a full metal jacket and a 9mm. He said a bear coming at you , and you only have a headshot , you need something to penetrate the skull not bounce off. Just repeating what he said, I'm no expert. 😅
A distance progression would be fun to see, maybe, 25yrds, 50yrds, 75yrds, and then 100yrds.
Demolition Ranch just did a video like that not even a month ago, he also sawed the shotgun off each time too.
@@RejectOneWorldGov Thanks for the lead. I'll be checking it out.
EXACTLY!!
And compare with a full choke
That would be informative with the choke details👍🏻
Try 3 inch mag #4 buck out of full choke. You'll get a better patrern than any of the other buckshot sizes.
Oh, I'm DONE with 3" mags... wanna buy some? : )
Yes @@kentuckybowl-o-sticks
Congrats on hitting the target. Didn't think it was possible. I'd like to see you shoot the same weapon at 85 yards.
Remember *it only takes ONE*
Would love to see full choke at same distance. Awesome!!
Me too
6.of. 9. pellets. would. hit. boxes
Or a slug barrel
@@joelrawlston1206 slug barrel is more open choke. And if it is rifled it would do nothing for the pellets but probably mess up the rifling...?
@@PeterErikson-rd5tj how when 5 pellets hit? I'd say all nine would make it on target. Imo
Don't let the ATF figure out about this!
This was common knowledge for decades before the ATF was created.
@@genericyoutubeuser1700the ATF doesn’t have common knowledge, they just make shit up. Didn’t you know, if you use buckshot, your shotgun turns into a fully-semi automatic assault weapon of war?
@@genericyoutubeuser1700its called a lame, overused joke. His comment was very obviously sarcastic.
@@genericyoutubeuser1700Don’t let this guy figure out it’s a joke!
The ATF, FBI, and US Marshall’s are sworn to protect us from criminals. I respect them for their service.
I have a Remington. 1187 with a 30-inch barrel and using a modified chock with 3-inch magnum 00 buckshot I have taken many deer 100 yards and over with them running as I was hunting with deer dogs. you learn over time how to lead a deer depending on how fast they are running and also to shoot above them for longer shots. This depends on a person that has patterned their gun and what chock it uses the best with the shells they are using to hunt, and you need to know the gun you are using because they each have their own personality as I like to call it because two guns the same model may not be the same when it comes to how they shoot or hold a pattern.
Interesting!
Extra full with a 1.5-4x scope . If you want to shoot slugs you can drop in a rifled choke tube. Very useful very utilitarian. You can also use it for turkeys. And with an extra full choke at that distance you should have about three in the killzone definitely
You not supposed to shoot buckshot thru anything tighter than a full choke. And Your definitely not turkey hunting with a rifled choke tube and slugs 😂
@@-B_G- real-world experience using an extra full choke and #4 buck. It patterns wonderfully. And for deer I almost exclusively use slugs with a rifled choke tube. It's accurate enough out to 125 if necessary. For turkeys I use Federal grand slam
I use x full .665 choke with 00buck. Plated buck shot doesn't pattern as well though thru xfull. .690 is good for plated shot
Are your shooting sabot slugs or rifled? I’d think rifled sluts would lead the rifling in the choke but I guess it’s not that restrictive of a choke
One last thing the reason they don't care is because they want AR's first if they get the other guns eventually they will come after shotguns and pistols and everything else.
They'll just call hunting bolt guns "sniper rifles" next
Refer to Can't a duh and see how "Lidoe" started and how he is now. Never gonna take the 2nd from America but they might try for as many as possible plus use it as a distraction for anything nefarious they do and want ignored.
@@363.2McMasters they are the CQB indisputable champ. The say all self defense situations were a shot gun was used one to two shot are all it's ever taken and they all died. That's pretty good odds I don't have an AR but I think all Americans should have a semi auto or a shot gun pump or semi auto at the very least and a pistol.
@@jessb91106I believe they tried that in the late 90's or early 2000's. Anything with a scope was a "sniper rifle". Fortunately, the public at the time really didn't react much to that.
@StringedCheese I think that's directly a response to the DC sniper case (which actually used an AR-15 with a Bushnell on it), and in CA .50 BMG got banned.
The choke compress the shot as it leaves the barrel deforming it and making it less accurate. If you use open choke the shot placement is way more predictable.
If I remember right,
every double aught BB is the same size as a 9mm round (roughly)
Ussually There are at least six pellets in every double aught shell.
You do the math...like getting hit with six 9mm rounds all at once.
A shotgun slug is accurate to 200 rounds in the hands of an average shooter.
it will farther then 200 yards, but will start to drop rapidly.
Oh, and if you think your safe from a slug behind anything other then a 1l2" steel plate...your Not....This is why slugs aren't recommended for a go to load in home defense.
A slug will go through multiple walls targets, etc.
Know your target.
Honestly, if a person only had one firearm...a shotgun is an all around great firearm.
Target fun.
Hunting...any animal....any size...variable ammunition Loads.
Defence.
It will hold its own in any situation.
It's easy to switch out barrels, customize and clean.
You can even customize as a secondary arm.
Indeed! Good write up 🍻
Benelli novas are truly underrated shotguns for the money.
When I got this years ago, I had done a lot of research into newer shotguns and found this one to have quite a good amount of reviews. I won a turkey shoot with it one time 😁
A friend of mine fixed that problem he loaded his own. Splitting and tying the shot in clusters of 3. This kept the pattern tight and made a tree cutter out of those loads.
Interesting method!
I'd still hate trying to dodge 9 pellets. Enough to keep my head down.
Definitely!
What kind of choke and high or low brass and what size buck shot? Yes they all matter
Read the screen
Brass means nothing 😂
Wow your an expert
All buckshot is high brass
I literally have two boxes of low brass buckshot... so... not all buckshot is high brass
That's better than I thought it would be..
Try the flight controlled buckshot
This is nothing people think shoot guns are close-range weapons and if you put a slug with a cylinder bore non rifled barrel you could hit a door size Target at 300 yards
Bet you can't do it first shot or 2 shots in a row...
@C S me no I couldn't but I've seen people do it reliably and consistently you just need to know where to hold with your particular shotgun and the rounds that you're going to be using
I hunt with both Rifled and Sabot slugs and 300 yards is stretching it
Works pretty good for the range it was designed for 35 to 45 yards. Try #1 buck short mag 4pellets per row in the shell. 12 to 16 pellets most shells.
Personally, I don't care for the Nova.
But that OO is a pretty good size ball of lead
My Father and a friend patented a buckshot load in the early 60s which would put 8 000 buck in a 5ft circle at 100 yards.
I know. I was there.
At 50 yards the pattern was so tight we could index for horizontal or vertical in about 24 inches x 12inches
Interesting! I wonder if a choke was built into the shell
@@BattlefieldCurator No, thanks for asking. Patented lifters separated and cushioned each 000 ball.
@@jackkelly9022 So... Preventing deformation so the pellets fly more accurately.
@@dylancrouch273 exactly. The major manufacturers started putting plastic powder in their loads soon after they all turned the concept down.
It WAS a difficult process to load. It was great on deer. His Partner took a deer at 80 yards.
Have killed deer at over a hundred yards with a twelve gauge, full choke 30" barrel # 1 buckshot
many of times
Interesting
That’s incredibly inhumane and you would never hunt any of my farms
@@jeremyfreeman1885👴🏻
@@Imnotsurewhattoput798 I’m
Old because I care about wounding animals for every 1 shot that was fatal I guarantee you wound 5 and never know it and think damn I must have missed
Federal 00 buck with the "flight control" wad will put all 9 pellets in the "A" zone at 50 yards out of an 18" cylinder bore. I haven't checked it at 100 yards.
Just remember, if you ever use a shotgun in self defense, you own ALL of them pellets and whatever damage they cause!!
You are correct. The wad behind the pellets in flight control is advanced to provide stability similar to a rocket with fins. It stays with the pellets way longer keeping them closer and more stable. It’s good to test out buckshot at your given defense range to see if it provides what is acceptable. I own AR/AKM and shotgun is my preferred home defense. You will never get legally attacked by 2 buckshot rounds vs 18 9mm rounds by a court. It’s way more deadly.
Another option is the buck kicker x full choke with standard 00 buckshot. It keeps the pattern similar to flight control with cheaper ammo.
Smaller lighter buckshot is hell on wheels out maybe 50yds or so. Problem is that it’s velocity falls off faster and that hurts the penetration. Tighter chokes don’t always give tighter patterns with big shot . I think a choke made for steel shot which I believe has a more gradual forcing cone in modified would work best.
Great for large groups of people, that's why the old times called them scatter guns
U need a full choke at that distance
Try a super full choke with flite control loads
So what i see is at least one hole in that roughly person sized target.. considering thats the best anyone can do with one shot from a rifle i have to say good enough!
Also, flight control, 3-1/2 magnum shells, full choke all would improve that statistic. Id like to see a side by side of 00 vs #4 buck at 100 yards
“What’s a buckshot pattern at 100yds look like ? “ said no one except an American.
You'd probably actually get better shot grouping with a cylinder bore because a choke is going to compress and deform the buckshot.
Wow I didn’t think that many would land impressed
Most of your 00 are set for 50yds are closer the best long range buckshot to usefor 75 and up is steel shot.
This is so cool
Put the full choke tube in. See if there is any difference.
Shotguns are optional at 50 yards. By far my favorite type of gun. Even though they aren’t the best and they’re pump I’ve gotten so much enjoyment out of the keltec KSG. Tons of better shotguns out there but for compact and feel I love it. It’ll bruise you though if you put spicy rounds in it.😅
I use #4 shot at 40 yards works pretty good in a old beat up Browning auto 5 tractor gun!
Flight control test next
Flight control is the best. I use their 3.5” turkey loads and took one at 65 yards.
@@f5tornadeauflight control is best thin to happen to shotguns since the tube magazine
@@40s9s3 I agree 100%. I didn’t know how good it was until I saw it with my own eyes. It’s magic!
@@f5tornadeau it's a whole different load for sure
I think many people don’t consider what would happen if one of those pellets hit you in the middle of your face.
Prob nothing good
Super full choke please.😉.
Scoring five hits on a man size target at 100 yds with one pull of the trigger is not as bad as it might seem to some. Now, in terms of "knockdown power" I do not know. But this also assumes only one round was fired. In a combat situation, you'd fire multiple rounds. Not advocating this as a viable self defense strategy, but it beats standing there with a stick.
Yep, maybe I’ll try multiple shots with different shotguns at a target
@@BattlefieldCurator IIRC, I read an analysis by British military (this is like 1920ish. I read it in an actual book) on using buckshot. They concluded that for their purposes they preferred #4 buck because the object was to get a hit, any hit, on the target.
I think the analysis was in the context of jungle warfare. So, maybe the objective was to hit through brush and wound or incapacitate. It might have been in the context of suppressive fire.
For me, I had a really good combat shotgun but sold it. I now have a coach gun and a couple of bird guns, all in 12. I load my own buckshot.
I wish I still had my combat shotgun. I am probably going to bite the bullet and drop the money on a good 870. I grew ip in the day when you could buy a good “riot” gun for a $250. Sucks being me.
That shotgun is fricken huge
Call of duty thinks that’s what the spread is from 20 yards
Lol
I like quad buck in 3 1/2! Good for 100 yards
Itd be interesting to see full choke if it did better or test them fancy flight control wads
3 inch #1 buck is the ticket. 00 is like throwing a handful of rocks.
Lol 😂
60 yards is the farthest I've gotten 3-5 consistently. That's just me though.
I prefer the Slug in distances of 150 meters
I have that nova!
We used to do this with the ole Mossberg 590s. Sometimes you'd get 6 pellets on the silhouette. Most of the time you got none.
Slug? One big hole every time.
Decent all around shotgun 👍
Try a full choke, with #1 or 0,100 yrds , try the 000 also. You ll be surprised
Try that with a full choke and you will be amazed at how far that 12 ga will shoot!!!!!
Full choke would leave a tighter pattern.
Definitely
Curious as to how you had to aim at that distance🙂
Is that pointing at the center or did you have to aim a certain amount high?
About half the target height higher was my aim at that distance
Open that choke up more, use much better loads with buffered nickel plated shot and a inertial cushioned shot cup.
That’s a pretty good pattern two hits on a man at 100yrds is no joke
It's not a rifle, shotguns are not for 100 yard shots
That's 4-5 shots on target no wider than a foot at 100yards... I'm curious to see that 150 yards looks like. I call that a good spread for 100 yards imo. Now add more accurate buckshot that stays together for longer and that's why the shotgun is my go-to for home defense.
Yeah, I was surprised too. I might have to test that a longer ranges.
@@BattlefieldCurator yeah. What is the choke on that thing? Idk if you could shoot 000 through a full or extra full choke but that would be interesting! I love shotguns. I remember my dad buying buckshot that stays in the wad for a long time down range. I don't remember what it was called though.
Dang I thought 3 pellets, off top of my head 😅
Haha
@@BattlefieldCurator test the wider together patterns to bring down as many geese in a single shot
A lot of that depends on the type of ammo. Cheap buckshot patterns at about 1 inch per yard. Hornaday Black or Federal Fliight Control is a hell of a lot tighter.
It'll keep a man pinned down and afraid to peek up and look at you!
I wonder if it would be any different with federal flight control buck shot
Wider patterns together test for bringing down as many geese as possible with a single shot
Extra Full turkey choke would be a good video
Definitely
Try a Federal LE 9 pellet 00 Buck at 1145fps with a Flight Control Wad and a cylinder choke. You will get a very different result.
Looks good enough. Wouldn't be ideal, but if thats all you have, bring it.
Still. Even one of those buckshot pellets will incapacitate any human without body armor.
What would a full choke look like
Now do a full choke!!
and that's why you should never take that shot on deer.
I call em booze donkeys here not deer
Was going to say would depend on the shotgun...
Zack, I can’t believe I ran across this video
Tom
That's was cool.b
So..l wonder how that would be with Full Choke 🤔 at that distance 🤔?
What's a 'modified' choke? 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full?
I am surprised it even hit the target.
Try heavy goose loads
We use 00 bucks and #4 buck for coyotes in Full Choke..anything out to 100 yards we can can roll them..& we use 3" 12gauge 😮😢
Get a PatternMaster choke tube and it's a whole new animal altogether. I use it for turkey and whitetails... devastating!
So that is what my one brother's deer looked like that got away
Use federal tactical buckshot
There's 9 pellets in XX buck.
I counted five on target.
If yiu had full choke u probably have alot more pellets in your target
Good job to hit anything at that distance with shot.
slap a high flyer full choke in it. i've gotten 10 in spreads at 50 yards using 3.5in winchester 000buck.
Well two .33 caliber lead balls should take down a whitetail. Depending where they hit, it may take one down fast or you may need some blacklights and a couple buddies all night to find it.
Tighter chokes sometimes give poor patterns with buckshot.
Interesting
Not sure if skipping it off the ground counts. At 1300FPS, your going to need a little more hold over!
Is it 3 Inch or 2 and 3 quarter. 3 inch has more buckshot pellets. ?
If the attacker was facing you (he'd have to be to be "attacking" right?) it looks like you hit him in the lower left lung and the groin. So he'd be having trouble breathing as he examined his vasectomy!
How about a 12ga 3.5” speed shok shell at 100yards?
Bigger balls than i
I just spread out some serious buckshot from 6 inches away on the rim of the toilet
870 Remington, VC wouldn't get hit. Number 4 buck is best. 21 pellets VS 9 , 00
Is the barrel rifled? That would make a big difference.
No it is not
I'm surprised a single pellet hit. With my 870 @100 feet (33yards?) I average 4 pellets in the black on a human silhouette. I keep yard ornaments at 100 feet from each door & window so I know when to shoot if the house is ever under attack.
I see 5 holes. 2 I would say hit centermass,. Don't know if that was 2 3/4, 3 or 3 1/2
9-12-15 shot loads respectively IIRC