Watching Peter work the forge, I'm pretty sure he's one of those guys who could eventually make a milling machine using a pile of iron ore, two rocks, and a sharp stick.
I live in Austin and work in a shop without AC. Kudos to you for putting up with the heat! If I had the option I'd put this off till winter! Love the videos!
Peter, you look young but I can see that you're older than you look. Exercise in the gym maybe. All fun, I'm actually too short for my weight... Thank you for sharing. I really enjoy you and your skilled work. Stay safe and be happy. Best, Job
I was just waiting for the straw-blue-purple explained. I used to use a temp stick when heating connecting rods, long time back. Small 110 volt bench oven, grab & jab. Memories a plenty!
Wow, your place looks exactly like where my old hackerspace used to be in Florida...even down to the lofted area in front on the right and the "sky lights" (if you could call them that) on the ceiling.
I bought a broken pottery oven for heat treatment for about $200 and fixed it, works great for hardening tools and other stuff. Things to harden are fastened to some MIG wire and submerged in charcoal inside ceramic flower pot, so that no oxidation or loss of carbon happens. Then the oven is heated to 850°C, wire is used to pull things out and dump them into cold water or oil.
The charcoal probably has a case hardening effect as well. Worked great on my parts so far, think it was C45/1045 steel, but not completely sure, since it's cheaply acquired leftover stock of unknown composition. The most important thing for me is that no material is lost as oxidation scale, so the dimensions/surface are kept as well as possible. The charcoal works great for that, it creates a reducing atmosphere inside the flower pot and I had next to no oxidation on my parts.
Thanks Mark! Yea I noticed that as well when I edited the video. I guess it was partially where I had the mic and the heat. It was already 90+ degrees outside and with the fire in the forge. Believe me it was extremely hot.
Really enjoy your videos, you are one of the few machinists on UA-cam, I heard Motion Industries in Pensacola had to lay off two of there welders when their youtuber quit
Out of curiosity, I'd like to see a hardness test on the top. Does centerline have a hardness tester you could use? Almost to 50k subs, although I don't understand why it's not a lot more.
I would like to see the large ball bearing bounce test myself! 1/2 in bb or so dropped from 12 in or like. That will show how hard you got the top surface.
Hey! ya those are really cool. A step up from RR track seen some cool RR track ones though. Funny thing is I just came across a cool forging project get a cheap Crmo bike wheel squewer you'd be surprised the nut's and wrenches those can replace like a bike seat clamp is good for at least a couple hundred pounds putting one on my 5c collet index custom clamp collar and one for my bench grinder rest and deffinatly getting incorperated into the beltsander "grinder" incarnation i have to dream up next the leavers can you do a project like that one of those levers
It depends on the type of steel. I my experiments with this steel (I didn't know what type it was) I found that a water quench was what worked. If the carbon content high you do use oil or it will cool to fast and may crack.
Yes in a temp controlled oven that's possible. On the forge that would be very difficult to control the heat as to not draw to much out of the material. You have to pretty much cool it when the right color is reached.
What is that that you're using as a forge? It looks almost like a barbecue grill, but you mentioned that it was metallurgical coke in the top? I'd love to see how you put that together.
we moved to a kiln, i forget the recipe, it was controlled, every hour it lowered the temp slowly, it takes the romance out of it, before that the boss would torch until it wasnt magnetic then quench, tool steel dies
Heat treat a 14 LB Anvil? Are you going to hit it that hard . Tappy tap tap I think is more likely Years ago I was cutting some Gear blanks 6"thick out of 4350 HT and had a big chunk leftover so I cut out my anvil it is 1250 lb beauty and use it alot but not close to its potential
It’s not that. I’m not really planing to make these to sell. You may be willing but most would not want to pay what it costs. I’m planning to give these away. If I get the larger one done as well for 50,000 subs.
Boy! One day, you’re machining fixtures and tools and high precision parts on a CNC machining center. The next day you’re heat treating an ancient tool, an anvil, in a coal forge - not much different than the way it was done thousands of years ago. Talk about being a Renaissance Man! My hat.’s off to you!
Andrew Delashaw Yes but those are full-size anvils. For me to machine one that large from a forging the material would cost more than that. Even for this little anvil a flame cut blank out of 4140 plate costs $100.00. That’s before machine work and heat treat. Also his anvils are castings.
Unless there was a massive demand for these with non refundable deposits of 50% it would never work out. I can't even imagine what it costs to make one of these. The programming, tooling, time, it's making my head spin. My WAG is one of these would have to sell for several thousand with low production numbers.
Oh boy, Houston in the Summer in front of an open furnace. Stay hydrated !!
Beautiful Peter!
ATB, Robin
Wow you are! Thanks Robin!
It's nice to see traditional methods being practiced today. Nice work Peter.
No one but you would take that much care in making a simple anvil. I commend you. Thanks for being original.
Watching Peter work the forge, I'm pretty sure he's one of those guys who could eventually make a milling machine using a pile of iron ore, two rocks, and a sharp stick.
thats cool youre showing this. never really thought bout the process.
I live in Austin and work in a shop without AC. Kudos to you for putting up with the heat!
If I had the option I'd put this off till winter!
Love the videos!
Peter, you look young but I can see that you're older than you look. Exercise in the gym maybe. All fun, I'm actually too short for my weight... Thank you for sharing. I really enjoy you and your skilled work. Stay safe and be happy. Best, Job
I was just waiting for the straw-blue-purple explained.
I used to use a temp stick when heating connecting rods, long time back. Small 110 volt bench oven, grab & jab.
Memories a plenty!
Expertly heat treated anvils. Great information and work. Cheers
Good job Peter. You are a man of many talents.
Great video. thank for working in the Texas heat
That is fantastic, thanks for braving the heat to show us
It's all about the colour. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Love the anvil. The heat treating is awesome.
Very VERY nice.
A real passion in the understanding of metallurgy.
A time consuming project that is producing amazing results.
Wow, your place looks exactly like where my old hackerspace used to be in Florida...even down to the lofted area in front on the right and the "sky lights" (if you could call them that) on the ceiling.
I bought a broken pottery oven for heat treatment for about $200 and fixed it, works great for hardening tools and other stuff. Things to harden are fastened to some MIG wire and submerged in charcoal inside ceramic flower pot, so that no oxidation or loss of carbon happens. Then the oven is heated to 850°C, wire is used to pull things out and dump them into cold water or oil.
That may actually raise the carbon content at the surface being submerged in charcoal. Sort of like case hardening.
The charcoal probably has a case hardening effect as well. Worked great on my parts so far, think it was C45/1045 steel, but not completely sure, since it's cheaply acquired leftover stock of unknown composition.
The most important thing for me is that no material is lost as oxidation scale, so the dimensions/surface are kept as well as possible. The charcoal works great for that, it creates a reducing atmosphere inside the flower pot and I had next to no oxidation on my parts.
Love to see the entire process. Give you an idea what these really take to complete. Must have been hours just in the modeling.
Nice job Peter, great video workout 👍
Hope to see a test of one of these anvils !
Thanks for sharing !!
This is a really nice development - I hope you consider doing the forge build as series of videos.
Nice work Peter, very allround craftsman. Although you sound a little short of breath there.....
Thanks Mark! Yea I noticed that as well when I edited the video. I guess it was partially where I had the mic and the heat. It was already 90+ degrees outside and with the fire in the forge. Believe me it was extremely hot.
Lookin Great Peter.
Thanks Randy👍
Neat bit of work, but definitely a workout!
Thanks for sharing, Charles
Hope all is well mr stanton love the work!
very good video,,gracias por tu tiempo y mucha salud
Edge Precision, the book end of technology. love it
Nice crisp fall morning for that job. Nice work and nice home made forge.
Just awesome!
Really enjoy your videos, you are one of the few machinists on UA-cam, I heard Motion Industries in Pensacola had to lay off two of there welders when their youtuber quit
Are you referring to Adam Booth?
@@EdgePrecision And props to you Peter for wearing his "Shop Life" t-shirt!
Those are awesome!
Fantastic!
Interesting video
Out of curiosity, I'd like to see a hardness test on the top.
Does centerline have a hardness tester you could use?
Almost to 50k subs, although I don't understand why it's not a lot more.
I have a hardness tester. If it fits I will test it.
I would like to see the large ball bearing bounce test myself!
1/2 in bb or so dropped from 12 in or like.
That will show how hard you got the top surface.
Great video 👍 you'll know if it's a proper anvil as Essential Craftsman try the ball bearing bounce test.
Hey! ya those are really cool. A step up from RR track seen some cool RR track ones though. Funny thing is I just came across a cool forging project get a cheap Crmo bike wheel squewer you'd be surprised the nut's and wrenches those can replace like a bike seat clamp is good for at least a couple hundred pounds putting one on my 5c collet index custom clamp collar and one for my bench grinder rest and deffinatly getting incorperated into the beltsander "grinder" incarnation i have to dream up next the leavers can you do a project like that one of those levers
Nice job,,thanks
i always thought you cooled it in oil for heat treating
It depends on the type of steel. I my experiments with this steel (I didn't know what type it was) I found that a water quench was what worked. If the carbon content high you do use oil or it will cool to fast and may crack.
Most tempering is ideally not followed with a quench. A slow cool gives the most even grain structure.
Yes in a temp controlled oven that's possible. On the forge that would be very difficult to control the heat as to not draw to much out of the material. You have to pretty much cool it when the right color is reached.
What is that that you're using as a forge? It looks almost like a barbecue grill, but you mentioned that it was metallurgical coke in the top? I'd love to see how you put that together.
Nice!
Nice 240sx back there
I want that so bad! how are you doing the giveaway Peter?
we moved to a kiln, i forget the recipe, it was controlled, every hour it lowered the temp slowly, it takes the romance out of it, before that the boss would torch until it wasnt magnetic then quench, tool steel dies
Heat treat a 14 LB Anvil? Are you going to hit it that hard . Tappy tap tap I think is more likely
Years ago I was cutting some Gear blanks 6"thick out of 4350 HT and had a big chunk leftover
so I cut out my anvil it is 1250 lb beauty and use it alot but not close to its potential
I gave you a bid when you made the anvils not high enough?
It’s not that. I’m not really planing to make these to sell. You may be willing but most would not want to pay what it costs. I’m planning to give these away. If I get the larger one done as well for 50,000 subs.
@@EdgePrecision
Don't forget a touchmark!
Stan Ervin there is one engraved on one side already. Watch the video on machining them.
@@EdgePrecision
Saw the video awhile back. Forgot. Sawree 🙄
Do you sell these?
I haven’t a plan to. It costs to much to make them. Unless someone was willing to pay a lot.
Boy! One day, you’re machining fixtures and tools and high precision parts on a CNC machining center. The next day you’re heat treating an ancient tool, an anvil, in a coal forge - not much different than the way it was done thousands of years ago. Talk about being a Renaissance Man! My hat.’s off to you!
@@EdgePrecision Look at Alec Steele. He's selling his for $1400. I think you're underestimating the price people will pay for anvils.
Andrew Delashaw Yes but those are full-size anvils. For me to machine one that large from a forging the material would cost more than that. Even for this little anvil a flame cut blank out of 4140 plate costs $100.00. That’s before machine work and heat treat. Also his anvils are castings.
Unless there was a massive demand for these with non refundable deposits of 50% it would never work out. I can't even imagine what it costs to make one of these. The programming, tooling, time, it's making my head spin. My WAG is one of these would have to sell for several thousand with low production numbers.
Hiya
You need to be be interning at least 3 people. This youtube channel isn't enough. The minute details of your experience are going to waste.