More interesting than this video is a bulletin of the Agricultural Experimental Station of South Dakota State Univ. from 1974 entitled "Yellow Ore, Yellow Hair, Yellow Pine", which follows Custer's trail through the Black Hills and noting the changes that forest ecology has made in the century after Custer's expedition. It notes landmarks photographed by Custer's official photographer and shows them a hundred years later and documenting the changes wrought by forest management. Fascinating to those familiar with the area.
Yes oxen shoe and mule shoe. You can tell a mule shoe from a horse shoe by the paralel shanks. The roller buckle is a typical 2" iron harness buckle of the period. The girth of the 1859 McClellan saddle typically had a version that was straighter at the sides but it is period.
@@DakotaProspecting I talked to John HonerKamp years ago and he said he found metal wheel hoops behind black hawk that were the same size used on the old Gatling guns, they most likely retrieved the gun but left everything else.
Great video... Great subject matter... Great delivery... Having said that, let me ask you: with all due respect, how is it that you could possibly know for certain the rather precise location of a wagon 'mishap' from 150 years past? I am quite curious UPDATE: after viewing a little further on, I see what led you to that decision which would have been the area of the trail that had that Rocky outcrop which would have caused any Ol' Wagon a problem, coming up on it. So, there it is I thank you for your patience and your videos
Yes, in part. The expedition was very well documented with photographs of the landscapes, their camp sites, and no less than 15 men wrote diaries; including newspaper dispatches with a lot of detail. As you know, these were the days when folks got all their current events information from newspapers. And if that weren't enough, they were also reconnaissance maps being drawn and updated daily as the Black Hills was unknown territory at the time. Thanks for posting. :)
@@DakotaProspecting Certainly you are welcome. Thank you for posting...the video. Also, as a little side note I really enjoyed seeing the picture of you sitting right where Custer and bloody knife killed the grizzly. Right at the exact Little Rock outcrop that was so cool I love photographs like that with the Civil War battle trees they call them I guess Battlefield trees meaning the trees that were there and still bear the scars of the battle itself that stuff is so neat then and now
@@allenpeck8239 I'd agree those places are like time capsules. And the really cool thing is they are often overlooked so if you find one it's really special to just sit there and take it all in. I searched for years looking for that rock outcrop. But it was well worth it.
Is it against the rules to take relics, because I would have have kept the knife and shoes. I know some state parks wont let you even keep arrowheads if you find them! I like the finders keepers rule myself. God bless you! Your friend and fan, Kevin
So I need to understand this. You say that once you dig up an artifact, no matter what it is, you rebury it back where it came from and walk away. Now, I will try to keep all personal feelings out of this, but, my problem (and a lot of other people's problem) with what you're doing here, is with you putting it back into the ground, never to be seen again, to disintegrate back to the Dust of the Earth. That's both sad & wrong. IMHO. The reason that's such a huge bummer is because it could be put into any local Museum on display so the youth of today can be educated about what you're doing. You seem to know quite a bit about a lot of this, and I'm impressed. However, what about the kid that doesn't know and can be led to your level of knowledge by the artifact that you dig up, turn over, and display... Imagine that, Sir. With respect, Allen P.
Hello Allen; Rest assured that if an artifact of significance was uncovered, like a pistol or something related to Custer himself, I would notify the proper authorities for its preservation or exhibit.
The first shoe is for oxen. They have cleft hooves
That makes sense. Thanks!
More interesting than this video is a bulletin of the Agricultural Experimental Station of South Dakota State Univ. from 1974 entitled "Yellow Ore, Yellow Hair, Yellow Pine", which follows Custer's trail through the Black Hills and noting the changes that forest ecology has made in the century after Custer's expedition. It notes landmarks photographed by Custer's official photographer and shows them a hundred years later and documenting the changes wrought by forest management. Fascinating to those familiar with the area.
Oxen, nice find. Definitely historic.
Keep on brother...
Yes oxen shoe and mule shoe. You can tell a mule shoe from a horse shoe by the paralel shanks. The roller buckle is a typical 2" iron harness buckle of the period. The girth of the 1859 McClellan saddle typically had a version that was straighter at the sides but it is period.
Thanks Jan for the details on those finds! That's a great tip on the mule shoe difference! :)
One of my favorite places to hike and explore. Big follower of the expedition. Dig the videos!
Cool! Thanks. :)
@@DakotaProspecting I talked to John HonerKamp years ago and he said he found metal wheel hoops behind black hawk that were the same size used on the old Gatling guns, they most likely retrieved the gun but left everything else.
@@fognnorway6471 Wow! That's pretty cool. Would have loved to see that. Amazing it's at Black Hawk too. Not far from Rapid.
Your second shoe find is a burro shoe. Pretty cool find. Congrats brother.
Thanks for that verification, William!
Nice video been panning since I was about 8 years old.
Bet you know a trick or two with that pan. I don't think I even knew where gold came from at that age. lol
Great video... Great subject matter... Great delivery...
Having said that, let me ask you: with all due respect, how is it that you could possibly know for certain the rather precise location of a wagon 'mishap' from 150 years past?
I am quite curious
UPDATE: after viewing a little further on, I see what led you to that decision which would have been the area of the trail that had that Rocky outcrop which would have caused any Ol' Wagon a problem, coming up on it.
So, there it is I thank you for your patience and your videos
Yes, in part. The expedition was very well documented with photographs of the landscapes, their camp sites, and no less than 15 men wrote diaries; including newspaper dispatches with a lot of detail. As you know, these were the days when folks got all their current events information from newspapers. And if that weren't enough, they were also reconnaissance maps being drawn and updated daily as the Black Hills was unknown territory at the time. Thanks for posting. :)
@@DakotaProspecting Certainly you are welcome. Thank you for posting...the video.
Also, as a little side note I really enjoyed seeing the picture of you sitting right where Custer and bloody knife killed the grizzly. Right at the exact Little Rock outcrop that was so cool I love photographs like that with the Civil War battle trees they call them I guess Battlefield trees meaning the trees that were there and still bear the scars of the battle itself that stuff is so neat then and now
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@@allenpeck8239 I'd agree those places are like time capsules. And the really cool thing is they are often overlooked so if you find one it's really special to just sit there and take it all in. I searched for years looking for that rock outcrop. But it was well worth it.
@@allenpeck8239 Thanks!
So...if you found an old gold coin you'd put it back in the ground?
Well...🤔
You are only allowed to take minerals so an old gold coin would be considered of Relic
Oxen for sure
Cool!
That is a oxen shoe .
Is it against the rules to take relics, because I would have have kept the knife and shoes. I know some state parks wont let you even keep arrowheads if you find them! I like the finders keepers rule myself. God bless you! Your friend and fan, Kevin
Hi Kevin, I not sure what the rules are, but I just put them back. Now, the gold that shows up in my pan I keep. :)
Has anyone ever found the hidden cave where Custer found the skeleton of a white man with a flintlock and tin cup?
Yes it fer an ox
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That's a mule shoe .
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Oxen
Oxen shoe
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Custer got the point.
Ouch!
Custer got what he was looking for. To bad so many innocent people had to pay for it.
So I need to understand this. You say that once you dig up an artifact, no matter what it is, you rebury it back where it came from and walk away.
Now, I will try to keep all personal feelings out of this, but, my problem (and a lot of other people's problem) with what you're doing here, is with you putting it back into the ground, never to be seen again, to disintegrate back to the Dust of the Earth. That's both sad & wrong. IMHO. The reason that's such a huge bummer is because it could be put into any local Museum on display so the youth of today can be educated about what you're doing.
You seem to know quite a bit about a lot of this, and I'm impressed. However, what about the kid that doesn't know and can be led to your level of knowledge by the artifact that you dig up, turn over, and display...
Imagine that, Sir.
With respect,
Allen P.
Hello Allen; Rest assured that if an artifact of significance was uncovered, like a pistol or something related to Custer himself, I would notify the proper authorities for its preservation or exhibit.
@@DakotaProspecting Ahhh, I was soooooo hoping you were going to tell me something like that. The best answer I could ask for and I thank you for it
If you are on forest service ground you cannot take any relics. It is against the law