Echo CS 490 Review and Maintenance Walk Through

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  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2018
  • Review & Maintenance of the Echo CS-490 Chainsaw! I love this saw this is my main saw I used on the homestead for collecting firewood Homestead Jay
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  • @tomascharles5080
    @tomascharles5080 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for your input on the 490.im getting one and I can't wait .

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому +1

      No problem! My honest opinion that I didn't cover in the video is change the chain! I run a Oregon PoweCut 20LPX078. Makes the saw scream! The factory echo chain is a "safety" chain which works but you really wanna rip through some logs then get this chain! The specs for the chain are as followed: Oregon PoweCut 20LPX078 (20 inch bar) 0.50 gauge .325 pitch with 78 drive links! Let me know how you like it! Please subscribe too! I am working on more chainsaw videos!

  • @hk93shooter
    @hk93shooter 3 роки тому +2

    so i have a bunch of used saws. ms362, husky 555,136, makita 4300, 6400, and a bunch of little homeowner saws.. just got a echo 590 on trade. im really impressed with the quality . mag case and good features. and runs with the other pro 60cc models. i would recommend anybody looking for a firewood saw , without spending big money on a pro saw. depending on wood size and amount ,an echo cs490 or 590 would do nicely. great video.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому

      Hey Shooter! I agree! The 590 is a work horse for sure! The 490 is as well! If I could pick one id go 590 but either one I am happy with! Thanks for tuning in!

  • @EdwardT9
    @EdwardT9 4 роки тому +2

    Nice run through, thanks! I use premium, no ethanol, gas in all the small gas engines and they always start, even with gas that sat over a winter. I do put fuel preserve it it too in the fall. I plan to upgrade to this saw soon, from a 14 inch Husky, thanks for showing how it’s put together.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому

      Hey Ed! It’s deff a great saw. It has served me well! I did a 5 year review on it not so long ago so check that video out on my page! I think it will help you even more! Please subscribe as well too! Thanks for watching!

  • @keithmajor2630
    @keithmajor2630 6 років тому +2

    Wow I learned so much!! Great video man!

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  6 років тому

      Thank you! I appreciate the feedback!

  • @johnysilver1853
    @johnysilver1853 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for useful tips. I learn how to take care of saw

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  2 роки тому +1

      Glad to help! Any future questions just come on by and leave a comment on a new video and ill be glad to help!

  • @1811bruce
    @1811bruce 5 років тому +1

    Hey Jay. New sub here. Enjoyed your video on the 490. Been thinking about buying one. I will be watching for more video's, thanks!

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому

      Bruce! Thanks for watching! The saw works very well! I've only had a mucculloch 2.1 before and as long as you keep a clean air filter and sharp chain (like everything else) it runs great! I would recommend it for sure! Thanks for subscribing I appreciate it!

  • @shartne
    @shartne 10 місяців тому

    i like the tip about warm water for the air filter.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  10 місяців тому

      Yes it helps a lot in the winter! And helps inverse in summer. You don’t wanna suck in extra hot air in summer. Very important!

  • @solohoh
    @solohoh 3 роки тому

    Thaks for the review, now I know why my Echo chain saws had a way of kicking the chain off the bar -- their sprockets have
    "indents." This doesn't happen with chain saws that have teeth, which grip the chain better. This really makes a difference when you are cutting brush or small limbs. When the chain gets thrown off the bar the drive links get chewed up and won't fit inside the bar until you file/grind them down. Never had this hassle with my 4 Husqvarnas over the last 35 years. My next saw is a Stihl.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому

      Hey there! Ive never had an issue with mine and ive cut a lot of brush, currently cutting through 1/2 mile of thick brush on my property and have never thrown a chain. They sprocket you are referring to are "rim sprockets" and they hold a chain better than standard sprockets. Im not sure why you had issues with your saw thats odd!

  • @brianeastman3547
    @brianeastman3547 5 років тому +1

    Keep up the good work man.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому

      Brian Eastman thanks man! I love
      My echo. Use it almost every other day! Trying to get far ahead on the wood supply!

  • @allischalmerswd
    @allischalmerswd 5 років тому +8

    If you run only ethanol free premium fuel, You wont have the issues that ethanol can cause. It is well worth the extra 30-40 cents per gallon.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому +2

      allischalmerswd yes I’m gonna try that. There’s one gas station in NH on the sea coast that sells ethanol free fuel. It might be worth the trip to try it! I know it will help it’s just getting out there to get it!

  • @kyleboyer1074
    @kyleboyer1074 4 роки тому +3

    A boy and his chainsaw, a love story.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +1

      Oh yes it is!

    • @kyleboyer1074
      @kyleboyer1074 4 роки тому +1

      @@HomesteadJay But on a serious note here, that WD-40 you are using, is not a lubricant, it is a solvent. Any lubricating properties will quickly evaporate and help to seize up your moving parts. Seriously if you got any enemies, spray that crap into the tumblers of their lock real good, and after a few weeks watch them break their key off in it. Oil or grease for lubrication.

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for a great video. You saved me some money on your syringe technique, so now I don't have to buy the 'Lube-N-Push' for puttin the schmoo into the blow hole. But I have a question about the ratio and proportiion fo the gasamoline: If'n it's 32:1 wouldn't that be one once of oil for each quart of gas, and therefore 4 ounces of oil for a gallon gas ? Thanks again. I continued to watch, 1 gallon to 5 ounces of fuel is 25.6 : 1,,, that's kinda thick, and might smudge up the spark arrester .

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому +1

      Tom! Thanks for watching the video! I appreciate it! The syringe works every time and is cheap! I’m glad you like it. I know 4.3oz to a gallon is 32:1 that’s obv more oil per gallon for like dirt bikes and such. and 50:1 is 2.6 oz to gallon which is less oil per gallon for smaller engines like chainsaws. The echo calls for 2.6 per gallon but I run 3oz per gallon mix (heavier) it doesn’t make that large of a difference at all if you ask me. Unless your going crazy like 5oz to gallon then that’s way heavy but I stick to 3oz per gallon and seems to crank that way! However, read the 2 stroke oil bottle cause some brands mix differently so make sure you read the oil bottle and compare to what the saw calls for to be safe! Any more questions just ask! Please subscribe!

  • @brianeastman3547
    @brianeastman3547 5 років тому +4

    I recommend the Echo Red Armor pre mix 50:1 fuel.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому

      Sorry for the delay I must have missed your comment! I am going to try that for sure!

  • @michaelhowlett8871
    @michaelhowlett8871 3 роки тому +1

    I like your saw bro.I got your saws big bro ,CS590 echo chainsaw

  • @merchantmerchant1048
    @merchantmerchant1048 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for review Echo CS 490 my Craftsman 20in 50cc just falling apart can't decide which one should I go for Stihl Husqvarna or Echo

  • @raincoast9010
    @raincoast9010 3 роки тому +1

    Does that saw have a hole in the center of the clutch end of the crank shaft? If so then you can shoot some grease in there to lube the clutch bearing.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому +1

      It may? Ill have to look next time I have the cover off!

  • @DeuSJaguaR
    @DeuSJaguaR 2 роки тому

    Hi thx for the vid , im new to the chainsaw world and yesterday got the same model cs490 but I noticed it kinda leaks a bit , nothing major but noticeable, the guy said it's normal , and idk where the oiler adjusterisn't, I was told there's a lil screw under the Chain or around the cover but again idk if it's normal the little leaking. Also how
    Long you leave the filter soaking in the water ? Then you dry it or ? Thx in advance, any other tip would be greatly appreciated.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  Рік тому

      Hey there! The oiler adjuster is on the very bottom. Flip the saw upside down and Turn it towards the + it will pump more oil and turn it down to the - will be less oil. Generally speaking more oil doesnt hurt. It will weep a little thats just the nature of the beast. You dont want to burn your bar so dont be stingy with the oil! Oil is cheaper than a new bar! When you wash the filter just make sure its dry before running it. Compressed air at a low psi like 20psi is good too the clean the air filters. They also split apart to blow particles from the inside out. The air filter has two little marks you can get a screw driver in and turn and it will pop open!

  • @BAKERHUSKIE
    @BAKERHUSKIE 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @michellatour150
    @michellatour150 4 роки тому +1

    These saws are already tuned lean from the factory and, have limiter caps on the fuel adjustment screws. If you are running more oil than 50:1, you are making it even leaner as the extra oil now displaces fuel. Trimming the tabs off the fuel screw limiters is highly recommended, my Echo dealer did mine no questions asked and, said it wouldn't be an issue for warranty purposed as long as I went thru them for the claim. Muffler mod also greatly wakes up this saw and allows it the breathe as it should.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому

      Hey Mike! You are correct with the the limiter caps and factory tune for sure. I don’t agree to much with the more oil makes it leaner, I run 3.2 oz to gallon which is (40:1) heavier then the factory 2.6 oz to gallon which is (50:1). I seem to have no problem with the modern oils it may smoke a tad more but I’ll never cook the motor! I did the limiter cap mod in a newer video if you wanna check that out. It’s my 5 year review video! Thanks for watching and please subscribe!

    • @michellatour150
      @michellatour150 4 роки тому

      @@HomesteadJay You've got to remember that in a 2-stroke, the engine is also internally cooled by the fuel charge, not the oil. Running it 'lean' allows the piston to expand more as it heats up, risking a seizure. Per same volume of premixed fuel (meaning not compensated with adjustments), adding more oil is the same a taking some fuel away. Myself run mine at 40:1 as well.

    • @g.d.7629
      @g.d.7629 3 роки тому

      Everybody keeps saying that. Its just not true. I checked mine was rich if anything.

    • @g.d.7629
      @g.d.7629 3 роки тому

      More oil just lets you know its prob not gonna blow. I run 40 to 1 with no probs.

    • @g.d.7629
      @g.d.7629 3 роки тому

      40:1 and you wont have to fight w dealer!!

  • @Vulcan5911
    @Vulcan5911 4 роки тому +2

    What's the best bar & chain upgrade for this saw for best performance? I just bought one a few days ago.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +2

      Hey Chris! Hit that subscribe button ill be doing some videos on it again soon! What I run is the Oregon Powercut 20LPX078. This chain is for the 20 inch bar!!! Now this chain you can get on amazon for under $20 a chain! I recommend getting a couple. If you have a 18 inch bar I am not sure of the equivalent model number (but its out there somewhere) As for bars just leave the stock one. Make sure you grease the nose sprocket! Check out my videos I have a few videos of stuff regarding the CS-490 ive posted since this one! Thanks!

    • @Vulcan5911
      @Vulcan5911 4 роки тому +1

      Ok cool. Thanks alot. I have the 20 inch. Will definitely be picking up half a dozen of those chains. Good price. I saw them on my Home Depot app for $17.06. That seems pretty cheap for a high performance chain.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +1

      @@Vulcan5911 Yes I am not sure why so cheap either. I wonder if its a off size or different number of drive links thats not really compatible with other saws but yes they are cheaper thats why I said get a few for sure! Im going to do a 3 year review soon so stand by and check in soon!

    • @Vulcan5911
      @Vulcan5911 4 роки тому +1

      @@HomesteadJay Awesome, thanks so much. So far I like this saw for what I need it for. Would love to do any upgrades for better performance if I can though. Will keep a look out for your next video on it definitely 👍

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +1

      @@Vulcan5911 Break it in first before you go messing with it! Trust me, you dont wanna string that baby way out there with a still premature motor if that makes sense! Ill cover all this when I do the video! Glad to have you aboard and following along!

  • @brianeastman3547
    @brianeastman3547 5 років тому

    Jay,Mine has a 18 inch bar on it & but it's the Shindaiwa 491s chainsaw.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому

      Brian Eastman whatever works!! I’m gonna do another review with some cutting! Give me a follow to keep an eye out for it!

    • @andybecker2693
      @andybecker2693 3 роки тому

      Exactly the same saw in red instead of orange. Echo owns Shindaiwa.

  • @g.d.7629
    @g.d.7629 3 роки тому +1

    Do the muffler mod. Remove that restrictor tube. Just 2 screws and use tin snips nibble front of that muffler off at corner.If you catch a deal on husq 545/20 in get it.Make sure its markII

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому

      I did the mod and retune and boy she cranks now!

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому

      I did it a while back!

  • @myoneblackfriend3151
    @myoneblackfriend3151 4 роки тому +1

    Mine ran for one day and now I am watching your video to see if I can start it. The last two times I tried it would not start. I hope I learn something.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +1

      Hi let me see if I can help! What fuel/oil mix are you running? Is the kill switch on? Is the air filter very dirty? Did you mess with any of the carb settings? Let me know and I’ll try to help!

    • @myoneblackfriend3151
      @myoneblackfriend3151 4 роки тому

      Homestead Jay, first of all I want to say thank you for being willing to help me out. I told a friend who used it on the one day it worked. He told me that I must not have known what I was doing. He started it in two pulls. He then showed me what to do. Thank you, Jay.

  • @mik19mazz
    @mik19mazz 4 роки тому +1

    Thank You!!

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +1

      Mike! Follow the channel if you want to see more chainsaw stuff! Im doing a 3 year review on the echo cs 490 soon! Climb aboard and follow the channel! Thanks!

    • @portsac
      @portsac 4 роки тому

      @@HomesteadJay when

  • @brianeastman3547
    @brianeastman3547 4 роки тому +2

    Nice chainsaw,I recommend the Echo Red Armour 50:1 pre mix gas , Keep up the good work man

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому

      Hey Brian! I’ve used that for sure and I am a fan of it just gets pricey for the amount of cutting I do! There is a ethanol free gas station about an hour from the house so I may take a trip and get about 50
      Gallons worth and that would hold
      Me over (for all equipment) for a while! Thanks for watching!

    • @crazedpaul9836
      @crazedpaul9836 4 роки тому +2

      @@HomesteadJay never buy more gas then you will use in about a month .Even if it is ethanol free...Echo saws run hot because of epa so fresh gas is a must.... I also pull the tabs on adjuster screws and tune it in one of those big logs.... A muffler mod will really wake that cs 490 up also.... Enjoyed your video.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому +1

      @@crazedpaul9836 Hey Paul! First of all thanks for watching and please subscribe to the channel! I am doing a 5 year review on the Echo coming up where I address everything you said! I like the saw, it performs well and has held up and its taken a beaten for sure!

  • @BAKERHUSKIE
    @BAKERHUSKIE 4 роки тому +1

    Never seen that winter feature

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  4 роки тому

      Makes a difference for sure! Thanks for tuning in! Please subscribe!

  • @g.d.7629
    @g.d.7629 3 роки тому +1

    All the chainbrakes are plastic. But they hold up. I bought the 501p wish I bought it first.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому

      yeah I heard the new 4910 series are all magnesium over plastic!

  • @larryschwandt8049
    @larryschwandt8049 5 років тому +1

    The chain gear is called rim sprocket

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому

      Larry Schwandt thank you! Please subscribe to the channel! I’m gonna do another review after 3 years of use now!

    • @lorettamoore6162
      @lorettamoore6162 3 роки тому

      Can either of you tell me how to pull of the rim socket? I think (hope) I have some buildup in there that stopped it from turning. Am I just not putting enough torch into it?

  • @tomcherry2689
    @tomcherry2689 6 років тому +2

    Echo CS490 is a nice saw. Super easy starting system, light weight,very powerful...My biggest complaint is the air filter. You will notice the saw losing power because the air filter pugs up to easy and will have to be cleaned or replaced, this was the first day I used it. My Husqvarna 435 never did this, bad design.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  6 років тому +1

      Yeah I have noticed that! I have a plastic brissel brush I keep in my field bag and I clean the air filter when Im out on a lot. My older mcculloch air filter is on the opposite side of the bar, basically the farthest point away from sawdust and it last wayyyy longer as far as getting dirty per same amount of cutting time! Thanks for the feedback! I might pick up a few extra to keep in my field tool box. I clean, soak, and low psi blow out all my air filters and i get good service use out of them.

    • @tomcherry2689
      @tomcherry2689 6 років тому

      Thanks for the reply back Jay, I really appreciate it. How is the Jonsered CS-2245 working out compared to the ECHO CS490? Does it start as easy as the ECHO using the compression release valve?

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  6 років тому

      I am not sure I am not familiar with the Jonsered saw your talking about. I know the newer Jonsered series is suppose to have that "easy start" or easy pull system ive heard about in passing. However My Cs-490 doesnt have a compression release valve and I find it fine to start, I do the standing push pull method as far as starting a saw, I dont start them with my foot on the handle on the ground like some "factory methods" call for. Hope this helped!

    • @brianeastman3547
      @brianeastman3547 5 років тому

      Try the Jonsered cs2250s you will notice the difference.

    • @brianeastman3547
      @brianeastman3547 5 років тому

      @@HomesteadJay,Make sure you use never cease on the new spark plug.

  • @hanka3497
    @hanka3497 5 років тому

    Well done video. I use a lubricant, not WD40.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  5 років тому

      Thank you for the comment. I will be doing a 3 year follow up video with how the saw has held up! Please subscribe if you havent already!

  • @marvinjackson2641
    @marvinjackson2641 Рік тому +1

    Sprocket

  • @morgan4xl
    @morgan4xl 3 роки тому +1

    You are using 25 to 1 oil mix. All my life I always thought the less oil the more power but I was WRONG. At a hydroplane race useing two stroke engines a front of the pack racer said he actually was using 8 to1 oil mix! There was no visible smoke when he was underway just at idle. Later a friend using 16 to 1 in his engine showed 39 Hp on a dyno. We mixed up a small batch of 8 to 1 and put it in the engine and the dyno number jumped to 41 Hp. Other than great engine component protection, the oil seals up areas like the piston skirts, rings and reeds or rotary valves along with piston ports. Also we haven't seen any spark plug issues yet. You may have to re-jet a bit to compensate. After years of running heavy oil mixes my small engine mechanic was amazed at the like new internals in an engine with a lot of hours on it that SHOULD have been nearly worn out. The engine manufactures are under severe pressure to please the EPA standards and it is a fine line between pleasing them and (barely) making it through warranty. Also a synthetic blend is the way to go or even a straight quality mineral based oil. I think straight synthetics with their 50+ to 1 are marketing ploys for the naive. BTW, my first Echo was a cs-490 and it has only seen 16 to 1.

    • @HomesteadJay
      @HomesteadJay  3 роки тому

      Hmm intersting stuff Morgan thanks for the comment. The more oil used you will have to retune as you said because you are actually "leaning out" the gas to oil ratio on the carb so you are sending less fuel through the motor which would obv require a adjustment on the carb. As far as the Hydroplane engines im sure they are full blown race motors and can handle that heavy of a mix. I dont run 25 to 1 ratio. I am not sure if I said it in the video but I run a 40:1-50:1 ratio and with the Echo Red Armor fuel it has been smooth as glass and still have great compression numbers after all these years. Thanks for the comment!

    • @morgan4xl
      @morgan4xl 3 роки тому

      @@HomesteadJay The hydroplane engines were simply Mercury two stroke fishing engines, four cyl that were readily available and used either in stock form or slightly modded. There are no rings on piston skirts on two strokes so a good seal is required both for the upward piston travel to create a vacuum to draw fuel/air into the crankcase and also for the downward stroke which compresses the charge that will be delivered through the transfers into the cylinder. I have installed one way valves in the crankcase to monitor only positive pressure. With a gauge attached and factory oil mix recs the pressure is around 6 psi max. As the oil ratio is increased I have seen as high as 8.5 psi. This is the pressure, like boost that feeds the combustion chamber. I own a Stuska small engine dynomometer, up to 130 Hp and these results are consistant. Surprisingly there is still hardly any visible smoke at full throttle but idle is another issue and the engine may have to have a few throttle blips after a long idle to clean it out.