Who owns the boats looting the high seas?

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  • Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
  • The high seas are ungoverned, international waters where exploitation is rampant because companies can operate with great anonymity. To put a stop to this behavior researchers are using old technology to spotlight out who’s really fishing in these international waters.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 261

  • @VergeScience
    @VergeScience  3 роки тому +141

    Aquaman aside, who's job should it be to protect the high seas?

    • @Chetan0402
      @Chetan0402 3 роки тому +25

      I think there should be a worldwide organization for that

    • @nickelson66
      @nickelson66 3 роки тому +17

      UN

    • @prakash_77
      @prakash_77 3 роки тому +1

      Mera.

    • @SaneAsylum
      @SaneAsylum 3 роки тому +3

      I believe that such regions should be open for transportation but that individual countries nautical borders should be extended to incorporate and manage all waters. It is much easier to have a corrupt world court divorced from any populace or parenthood. It is far easier to hold countries accountable for their actions as we do now (which is why this piracy flourishes outside economic inclusion zones.

    • @SaneAsylum
      @SaneAsylum 3 роки тому +3

      @@Chetan0402 Accountable to whom? How? We cannot trust the UN or WHO or World Bank etc... why add another divorced parent to the list?

  • @ztwilkerson
    @ztwilkerson 3 роки тому +513

    1:15 “Basically, the high seas are being overfished to feed the world’s rich”
    Sponsored by Lexus

    • @raoulduke7668
      @raoulduke7668 3 роки тому +24

      so what? Just because a company is rich, does not mean that their methods are reprehensible

    • @conorkosidowski3924
      @conorkosidowski3924 3 роки тому +50

      Supporting journalism that may be contrary to your brand is a pretty bold move. I'm glad they're sponsoring the verge if it means we get these great videos.

    • @rhaegartargaryen9315
      @rhaegartargaryen9315 3 роки тому +9

      @@raoulduke7668 Reprehensible behaviour is what usually gets companies rich though. I suppose it's just business as usual. :)

    • @EchadLevShtim
      @EchadLevShtim 3 роки тому +5

      @@raoulduke7668 Well, the Rich are in turn only regulating everyone else and excluding themselves. It is basically cheating while holding the competition to rules. And you don't see anything wrong with this. That the game is rigged in their favor......

    • @raoulduke7668
      @raoulduke7668 3 роки тому

      @@EchadLevShtim in "their" favor? Most (not all) people in those positions worked really really hard for their goals and definitely deserve all of it. Everybody has the chance to do the same.

  • @hemang730
    @hemang730 3 роки тому +78

    These two women are genuinely amazing! I can't imagine the amount of time they worked to hold these companies accountable, hats off to them!

  • @kerwinbrown4180
    @kerwinbrown4180 3 роки тому +76

    I see a lot of boats will begin turning their identifiers off.

    • @JasonKonadu
      @JasonKonadu 3 роки тому +6

      They are already doing this , search china fishing fleet

  • @jamesliston5693
    @jamesliston5693 3 роки тому +61

    At is what I call investigation of journalism thanks for exposing these fishy companies

  • @iOS4guy
    @iOS4guy 3 роки тому +94

    I was really hoping this to be about modern day pirates.

    • @harisiqbalralph
      @harisiqbalralph 3 роки тому +16

      In a way it is.

    • @adversarialxvx
      @adversarialxvx 3 роки тому +1

      and it is....

    • @evdm7482
      @evdm7482 3 роки тому

      And now you know how to find boats and be your own pirate. Roll call

    • @We-need-more-ads-and-bots
      @We-need-more-ads-and-bots 3 роки тому +1

      Same, I thought I was going to be here watching jack sparrow do cool stuff. Nah just a video how the worlds ending, but I don’t eat fish so it’s kinda not my fault. I guess I could do more. Like go out in the ocean in a paddle boat with a water gun and threaten to spray them if they fish. That’s like a ten hour drive though and I don’t really feel like it.

  • @ChrisKennedy1
    @ChrisKennedy1 3 роки тому +152

    Its interesting to learn about something completely new to me and never before considered, especially on a lunch break whilst writing a presentation on background radiation levels.

    • @VergeScience
      @VergeScience  3 роки тому +25

      Enjoy lunch and good luck with the presentation!

    • @EchadLevShtim
      @EchadLevShtim 3 роки тому +3

      Background Radiation... Is that where we pretend billions of radioactive barrels from Nuclear Power plants aren't effecting climate change as much as that scary Carbon monster?😂😂😂

    • @unidentifiedheadbumpstormt1937
      @unidentifiedheadbumpstormt1937 3 роки тому +4

      @@EchadLevShtim photon =/= carbon

    • @r2c3
      @r2c3 3 роки тому

      What are the global atmosphere oxygen leves... is any organization actively keeping track of that... good luck with your presentation...

  • @zorodielirido
    @zorodielirido 3 роки тому +47

    surprisingly, the high seas are more interesting than i thought. great video

  • @eskanderx1027
    @eskanderx1027 3 роки тому +17

    It's great that we have the UN to do nothing about the important stuff.

  • @MjikThize
    @MjikThize 3 роки тому +5

    This is pretty cool, I used to work in a fish plant and I used an app that used AIS to get an idea of how busy a shift was going to be. AIS not only let me know which of our typical boats we bought from was in port but how big their load was. Add 12 hours to when they arrived in port I could expect their truck on our receiving dock

  • @RADsLife
    @RADsLife 3 роки тому +57

    Sooo... China? Yep, China

    • @Trollolling
      @Trollolling 3 роки тому +6

      If you actually learn to use google, Dongwon is a Korean company.
      www.dongwon.com/en/business/dongwon-industries
      In this video they said, 2/3 of high sea operations are from Dongwon

    • @doko_kanada
      @doko_kanada 3 роки тому +10

      @@Trollolling nice try China

    • @namesurname6905
      @namesurname6905 3 роки тому +5

      @@doko_kanada Actually...StarKist used to be an american company until 2008, when it got bought by south korean Dongwon company...nice try america

  • @ignacioocampo9654
    @ignacioocampo9654 3 роки тому +39

    Here in Argentina is a huge problem, because our government receives bribes or pressure from China, so it is a free area to fishing boats which make disasters both in international waters and in the Argentine sea

    • @SaneAsylum
      @SaneAsylum 3 роки тому +5

      Here before the 50 Cent Party shows up!!!

    • @webmasale
      @webmasale 3 роки тому +1

      Proof?

    • @SaneAsylum
      @SaneAsylum 3 роки тому +7

      @@webmasale Of China's involvement? Did you even watch the video?

    • @skankmcgank
      @skankmcgank 3 роки тому +2

      @@webmasale it's common knowledge that china raids the waters off south america. Peru, argentina, etc spend a lot of time trying to chase them around. Even protected waters have been hit.

  • @mtrezaie
    @mtrezaie 3 роки тому +12

    Most sailors know that fish boats usually do not have their AIS turned on. So AIS can show information to some level. Radars are not that good either due to the unsteady sea movements.

  • @KrzysztofCygan
    @KrzysztofCygan 3 роки тому +18

    It is identical to tracking tax heavens shell companies and actual owners.

  • @matthartman19
    @matthartman19 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for putting this out there!

  • @Mango_B
    @Mango_B 3 роки тому +2

    This is a problem that has to be solved. Good work. Keep it going. Bring to justice those who are culpable of pilfering.

  • @R4nd0mR4v3n
    @R4nd0mR4v3n 3 роки тому +10

    Damn they’re going to learn about my secret fishing spot

  • @prakash_77
    @prakash_77 3 роки тому +14

    Great video Verge Science Team 🙌🏻

  • @diego-dias
    @diego-dias 3 роки тому +5

    Absolutely fantastic journalism.

  • @nobywils
    @nobywils 3 роки тому +2

    Truly great work!

  • @psiga
    @psiga 3 роки тому +17

    4:18 A list of the top 10 most active companies on the high seas....
    5 out of 10 being big China. Not to let Korea off the hook either; no pun intended.

  • @amanthereposter
    @amanthereposter 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for your information

  • @OwenRULESSS
    @OwenRULESSS 3 роки тому

    This is so important!

  • @abhinavthakur8232
    @abhinavthakur8232 3 роки тому

    These are the kind of environmentalist that we actually need, not those who just makes empty statements

  • @zilindogomes1767
    @zilindogomes1767 3 роки тому

    Nice work

  • @Alchemist_ht
    @Alchemist_ht 3 роки тому +12

    Best channel ❤️

  • @sihhaoo
    @sihhaoo 2 роки тому

    The researchers should present the case to Palantir, I'm sure they would have great time solving the knots together, with proper tools this time.

  • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
    @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 3 роки тому +3

    This made my day.

  • @markbattersby7253
    @markbattersby7253 3 роки тому +1

    25 years ago I meet a merchant seaman who developed a black box system for ships the same as on airplanes he was told by the authorities to drop the idea or face prison, the greedy

  • @akashbavishi6615
    @akashbavishi6615 3 роки тому +11

    Quite informative,
    A question,how long can a ship be kept on high seas,they need to be repaired and to be given rest somewhere ha?
    Quite phishing

    • @Christoff070
      @Christoff070 3 роки тому +3

      I don't know a lot about it but many ships are geared to stay at sea for a very long time, we are talking years. They can also be repaired and refuled while at sea

  • @greenrabbit05
    @greenrabbit05 3 роки тому +3

    65 pirates hated this lol

  • @dreamlife2351
    @dreamlife2351 3 роки тому

    Excellent journalism women. 🕊

  • @DannieMayre
    @DannieMayre 3 роки тому

    Thanks for making the kind of videos. To help aquatic life

  • @Amitdas-gk2it
    @Amitdas-gk2it 3 роки тому

    TY 😊

  • @Yamate-Kudasai
    @Yamate-Kudasai 3 роки тому +4

    A very like videos like this

  • @reizhi
    @reizhi 3 роки тому +3

    why subtitle disappear suddenly?

  • @danielpaz7696
    @danielpaz7696 3 роки тому

    omg that marker

  • @TK-4200
    @TK-4200 5 місяців тому

    Commercial fishing boats are usually independent corporations even though they all belong to the same company. This is widely done throughout many industries to limit liability. If something catastrophic happens on one vessel the rest of the company is protected.
    Thank you for trying to protect commercial fishing so we will have plenty of nutritional seafood in the future.! ❤

  • @nilnull5457
    @nilnull5457 3 роки тому +6

    What's the possibility that someone turns off their ais to escape identification?
    Edit: never mind, they acknowledged it

  • @jonnymyong
    @jonnymyong 3 роки тому +2

    1 Million subscribers!

  • @cloudwatcher990
    @cloudwatcher990 3 роки тому +1

    This was weird...feels like I’m watching a video that was made for 7th graders to watch.

  • @billbaggins
    @billbaggins 3 роки тому +4

    Yes, about time these bastards were named. I remember the Tuna boats that nearly wiped out Tasmanias fishery, followed by the Orange Roughy debacle and the big squid fleets and the Patagonian Toothfish pirates further south. Thankfully these practices are better policed now but have been replaced by the bloody Salmon farms and their associated environmental devestation. Well done ladies 👍🍺

  • @VjRocker007
    @VjRocker007 3 роки тому

    Great research, the information gathered unfortunately will not amount to anything if international laws aren't passed to curtail over fishing or consumers dramatically reduce their fish intake at home and in restaurants. Both of which I don't see happening anytime soon.

  • @wolfpack2050
    @wolfpack2050 3 роки тому +1

    I think the UN should just create an international navy, one which is crewed by any countries military personnel, the crews should not just be of one nationality.

  • @zinjanthropus322
    @zinjanthropus322 3 роки тому

    Everyone has known where the massive overfishing fleets come from for a while now.

  • @Shwartzer
    @Shwartzer 3 роки тому

    Im confused. This kind of technique of following vessels through sattelites existed already in the 90s, aswell as many international economic treaties that made it mandatory for any vessel to have that gps system.

  • @mandurugas69
    @mandurugas69 3 роки тому +5

    its a free real estate - china

    • @Trollolling
      @Trollolling 3 роки тому +1

      If you actually learn to use google, Dongwon is a Korean company.
      www.dongwon.com/en/business/dongwon-industries
      In this video they said, 2/3 of high sea operations are from Dongwon

  • @damianknight8064
    @damianknight8064 3 роки тому

    shell company ! lol

  • @ph11p3540
    @ph11p3540 2 роки тому

    At the end of the day, there is ultimately no law of the sea. The open ocean is the hardest place to police.

  • @audigit
    @audigit 3 роки тому

    I find this disturbing

  • @james_4526
    @james_4526 3 роки тому +2

    They nicely skipped all china companies on the list

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa 3 роки тому

    The problem is huge and serious for sure. It requires international cooperation and strong laws to punish abusers. I also wonder if we indeed eat all that is being fished. I imagine there is a lot of waste as well, making the situation more the sad.

  • @Captainsparkist
    @Captainsparkist 3 роки тому

    Take a shot every time they say “high seas”

  • @adamtravis6293
    @adamtravis6293 3 роки тому

    anyone notice the speed on the ships in there animation, i dont think the person that made that knows what a boat is lol

  • @eds6889
    @eds6889 3 роки тому

    It always comes down to greed. The only thing that regulates greed is regulation and enforcement.

  • @andrijherasymenko
    @andrijherasymenko 3 роки тому +10

    So... Those high seas. How high are they exactly?

    • @SaneAsylum
      @SaneAsylum 3 роки тому +3

      84' at least: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave

    • @twonumber22
      @twonumber22 3 роки тому +2

      Getting higher year by year.

  • @silverelk13
    @silverelk13 3 роки тому

    Where’s Barnacle boy when you need him

  • @SCRKT007
    @SCRKT007 3 роки тому

    Just track the dislikers from this video they are probably the fishers

  • @NathanDudani
    @NathanDudani 3 роки тому +1

    Lexus vs Starkist, fight

  • @jawms
    @jawms 3 роки тому +1

    Massive Lexus watermark. Wtf. When did journalism become this bs?

  • @maythesciencebewithyou
    @maythesciencebewithyou 2 роки тому

    It's up to people and their desire to eat fish. As long as people pay for it, this will go on until there is no more fish.

  • @ruialexandrepereiradossant8286
    @ruialexandrepereiradossant8286 3 роки тому

    without insurance, he doesn't go out, he doesn't fish, he looks for the country and its laws, with the politicians of the moment, everything starts to improve

  • @ellis777777
    @ellis777777 3 роки тому +3

    Protect the earth

  • @jedhawkins373
    @jedhawkins373 3 роки тому +1

    200 nautical miles you mean

  • @ChefOntheway
    @ChefOntheway 3 роки тому

    There is some problems in Argentinian waters right now ... some Ilegal foreigners fishing boats that have long time going on it ...

  • @anandaditya479
    @anandaditya479 3 роки тому

    How about banning fishing in high seas

  • @ziyanyang9777
    @ziyanyang9777 3 роки тому

    I think it's been this way for couple decades due to marinal law is very hard to enforce and keep track of. Money and profit 💰 are the key. Nothing can escape this rule.

  • @kailen98
    @kailen98 3 роки тому

    So did Lexus sponsor this video?

  • @ronkirk5099
    @ronkirk5099 3 роки тому +3

    The only solution to over exploitation of the oceans rest with the individual. I took the advice advocated by world renown marine biologist Dr. Silvia Earl and gave up consuming seafood 30 years ago. If you care about the health of the world's oceans, you should do the same.

  • @FinancialShinanigan
    @FinancialShinanigan 3 роки тому +18

    Let me take a wild guess...is it China?

    • @formateuramzal1567
      @formateuramzal1567 3 роки тому

      of course, yet somehow everyone in the world is afraid to standup to them

    • @charlesjakesamadan4008
      @charlesjakesamadan4008 3 роки тому

      Why do you all hate China so much just because it's an Socialist nation doenst mean It's All bad (Imagine how the Good citizens of China feel about the comments saying they are all bad)

  • @diegolovell
    @diegolovell 3 роки тому

    Well when there is no more .

  • @erickimla1559
    @erickimla1559 3 роки тому +1

    Seems like an opportunity for supply chain on the blockchain -Cardano

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 3 роки тому

    Wouldn't it be great if Sea Shepard carried torpedoes. Ecuador has done some enforcement.

  • @onupirat
    @onupirat 3 роки тому

    Hmm, what happens if you kill someone on one of these boats if they are not in any country's jurisdiction?

  • @mahadaalvi
    @mahadaalvi 3 роки тому +2

    I hate humanity

    • @indradipsarkar5224
      @indradipsarkar5224 3 роки тому +1

      No.
      You hate capitalism. :P

    • @mahadaalvi
      @mahadaalvi 3 роки тому +2

      @@indradipsarkar5224 Humanity creates capitalism

    • @charlesjakesamadan4008
      @charlesjakesamadan4008 3 роки тому +1

      @@indradipsarkar5224 Return to Monke :P

    • @indradipsarkar5224
      @indradipsarkar5224 3 роки тому

      Indeed it did. But humanity also actively talks about destroying it.
      For me it's more about which side of humanity you want to be.
      ;)

  • @mandurugas69
    @mandurugas69 3 роки тому

    he who rides the seas rules the world

  • @challbekan6272
    @challbekan6272 3 роки тому

    Like you said, data itself doesn’t prove anything.

  • @mikearmstrong8483
    @mikearmstrong8483 3 роки тому

    Declaring a species overfished doesn't mean squat when no nation has jurisdiction over the high seas fishing grounds. Just knowing who is the criminal isn't much use if nobody is allowed to be the cop.

  • @Alx2672
    @Alx2672 3 роки тому +15

    Your bias it's showing, all the top offenders in the list say "China" yet you choose the one from Hawaii... You also name a popular brand of tuna then state you can't prove it, can you be sued for defamation?

    • @nickc3657
      @nickc3657 3 роки тому +4

      The Hawaii-based company is the one the researcher looked up on google street view. China is much more protective of and opaque with its geographic data, so the “story” of unmasking those companies is probably quite boring and wouldn’t make sense to put in a video like this.
      Also, the governments of countries aren’t the focus here. These companies are probably multinational, and they’re operating in international waters.

    • @Alx2672
      @Alx2672 3 роки тому +1

      @@nickc3657 I could agree with what you're saying except for the fact that the researcher listed the countries to make a point. If they were irrelevant or even just a pointer to where they could find the parent companies then the researcher would have given more screen time to that section of the research rather than country location. There is a thin line between story telling and finger pointing. The Google maps section could have easily been more about tracking ships to port cities which would have been more informational. This was pointed, from "the rich people" to "Hawaii " there is a message and it's not "look how I used Google maps".

  • @Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr.
    @Freddie_Dunning-Kruger_Jr. 3 роки тому

    What's stopping a country from shooting missiles or torpedoes at boats over fishing? Other than sanctions, there is nothing anyone can do except declare war?

  • @Akash.Chopra
    @Akash.Chopra 3 роки тому

    How should we mobilize 'very objective' knowledge? By doing more research before assuming.

  • @MrMighty147
    @MrMighty147 3 роки тому +3

    I'm definitely going to buy a Lexus now.

  • @timspencer4324
    @timspencer4324 5 місяців тому

    All they have to do is turn off the AIS? Foolproof.😒

  • @IO-hh3gw
    @IO-hh3gw 3 роки тому

    Ofc rich businessmen are behind all these.

  • @LemonsRage
    @LemonsRage 3 роки тому +1

    who would‘ve thought that china makes up like 8/10...

  • @davidli3582
    @davidli3582 3 роки тому

    Heehee you said dong.

  • @BrobjeV
    @BrobjeV 2 роки тому

    1:10 so why not ban all luxury markets and why don't we bring out the guillotine? You know, to -thin out- optimize the rich.

  • @gacherumburu9958
    @gacherumburu9958 3 роки тому

    😢😧

  • @rayhanvlogs
    @rayhanvlogs 3 роки тому

    Idk why I even bother commenting on this video but like people have been fishing since humans have learned how to fish so idk why worry about this

  • @dustinhitchcock8987
    @dustinhitchcock8987 3 роки тому

    Maybe they don't want people to know where they are. Wouldnt that be nice for a change, no one knows where your at

  • @imsohandsome
    @imsohandsome 3 роки тому +1

    Can't call out china? Yep

  • @bennyrashasha9920
    @bennyrashasha9920 3 роки тому +1

    THANOS WAS RIGHT! HAIL THE MIGHTY TITAN!

  • @MaicoWeites
    @MaicoWeites 3 роки тому +1

    Sponsored by Lexus. You can't make this up.

  • @sethjamison7584
    @sethjamison7584 3 роки тому

    ah the tragedy of the commons

  • @paultoensing2370
    @paultoensing2370 3 роки тому

    This is why I’m pulling for the virus variants. Time for some weeding.

  • @Denis-nh5bv
    @Denis-nh5bv 3 роки тому +1

    Fisch 🐟

  • @ChiveDumpling
    @ChiveDumpling 2 роки тому

    Sink the boats that turn their identifiers off.

  • @emmacares426
    @emmacares426 3 роки тому

    Can we talk about how US consume thousands of chicken daily

  • @TheAstronomyDude
    @TheAstronomyDude 3 роки тому +2

    Eat the rich!

  • @spare9434
    @spare9434 3 роки тому

    Who here is willing to cut fish from their diet, at least a major reduction?