2003 bike here, Ti frame, external routing, rim brakes, up to 28mm tires (currently use 25 rear & 23 front because that's what I have), screw in square taper bottom bracket, mechanical 10 speed shifting, 12-23 rear & 53-42-30 front, 18.5lbs or 8.4 kilos, all-carbon fork, carbon seatpost. No real complaints, love riding it, don't race or go nearly fast enough for aero and all the other stuff to really matter. I think I'll keep it and leave the pointless bike envy to others with either much better fitness, deep pockets, or misplaced priorities. Oh, and I drive a 32 year old car that I maintain well, and love it too.
For us non-professional cyclists, are these ”upgrades” enhancing our quality of life accordingly? Or is it ”calculated obsolence”, burning Earths resources at an insane rate?
theres a big difference in ride quality, versatility and stopping power. theres a small difference in speed. negligible in shifting performance. at least between my bikes from 2014 and 2022
Just had my Tarmac Expert Mechanical converted 2 Ultegra Di2 Groupset 12 speed. Upgraded the Wheels 2 Roval Rapide CLX 32 mm climbing wheels August last yr . And a few yrs b4 that l put a Sworks Headstem & Sworks Carbon Aerofly 2 Bars . Bottom Bracket has been improved 2 a better Bottom Bracket . This is my training bike indoors/outdoors Also purchased in separate parts an S-Works SL7 54cm Tarmac Shimano Dura Ace Di2 12 Speed Groupset. ×2 sets of Wheels. Roval Rapide CLX 32mm & the Roval Rapide CLX 52/60 Wheels. Saddle : S-Works Mirror 143 mm Carbon Rails Printed Saddle. Handle Bars Vission full Carbon Cockpit & XPro 15 Peddals . Both will never see 👀 bad weather . The SL7 $ 23.5K . Insured . Didn't pay that much . Best negotiating u have ever seen .
So, to conclude, road bikes are now heavier, objectively uglier, more difficult to work on, vastly more expensive, but slightly faster... And the only notable innovations that occurred in the last decade have been either borrowed from mountain bikes (disc brakes, clutched derailleurs) where they've been staple for years, or from using semiconductors, batteries and hidden motors in place of mechanical parts (in a supposedly human-powered sport), to change gears because it was easier and cheaper than making mechanical components better (while simultaneously charging much more for this). I don't want to call that rate of progress 'glacial', because the safety bicycle hasn't really changed at all since John Kemp Starlet's original design. But, you could definitely call that industry cynical.
Biggest change is prices...
2003 bike here, Ti frame, external routing, rim brakes, up to 28mm tires (currently use 25 rear & 23 front because that's what I have), screw in square taper bottom bracket, mechanical 10 speed shifting, 12-23 rear & 53-42-30 front, 18.5lbs or 8.4 kilos, all-carbon fork, carbon seatpost.
No real complaints, love riding it, don't race or go nearly fast enough for aero and all the other stuff to really matter. I think I'll keep it and leave the pointless bike envy to others with either much better fitness, deep pockets, or misplaced priorities. Oh, and I drive a 32 year old car that I maintain well, and love it too.
Big boy gearing. If you ever found yourself on a modern bike you’d probably feel instant speed.
@@neoneherefrom5836 A ratio is a ratio no matter how attained. Basic math and physics.
@@kovie9162 you got me there
@@kovie9162 there are other speed improvements involved in modern tech that go beyond gear ratios, no?
Bullshit
I have a mid 90s Bianchi and I love it.
Bet its gorgeous
Same here. Late 90's Bianchi 🙋♂️
I have an ‘86 Bianchi Brava
I stay with the 2013 model
I stopped at 2013 bikes 😅
2013 is good enough. Don't need my bike at the shop for minor repairs
For us non-professional cyclists, are these ”upgrades” enhancing our quality of life accordingly? Or is it ”calculated obsolence”, burning Earths resources at an insane rate?
Only hardcore cyclists notice the difference
theres a big difference in ride quality, versatility and stopping power. theres a small difference in speed. negligible in shifting performance.
at least between my bikes from 2014 and 2022
the bigger casette and the wider tyres are hugh improvements.
If you have hand issues, arthritis for example, wireless shifting a godsend, among the other improvements!
@@paulwinkfield6560might aswell just buy an ebike
Waiting for the 2033 update
😂
it will ride itself so you don't have to bother
10k more again...for 2053 we're gonna reach the cost of an apartment.
2013 bikes did have internal routings too. My Scott plasma had em.
Modern road bikes suck. I’ll stick with my 2015 trek Emonda SLR thanks
2013 all day
How can a bike be less heavier than 1 kilo? Is it the frame ? Even so i still have a hard time believing the frame weighs less than a kilo
And the price difference is mad
It is a 2011 model SL3
2013 model is better yo know 😅
The thumbnail for this looks more like Si is going to do a mime act.
2013, more affordable for me 😅
2013 lighter probably
He said it's lighter ))
Pay attention. Short attention span, watch the whole vid
Let's get rid of press fit junk!
LA It’s not about the bike
Which one doesn't have carbon forks?
You know how they fail, right?
SNAP! and they're GONE and your face is on the road
You mean carbon steerer .Many carbon forks had an aluminium steerer
"Nine hundred and fifteeeen grams..." none of it means anything guys 😅
Now, do that with a mountain bike.
I can't wait to buy a new bike
Threaded definitely better!
That intro pssssss give me an most roadies ptsd immediately XD
So ... is everyone a pro, measuring their worth in grams? Cause I ride too but I do it for fun and couldn't care less about it.
Gcn full of crap. Not a hint of aero?? Posh ponies
Just had my Tarmac Expert Mechanical converted 2 Ultegra Di2 Groupset 12 speed. Upgraded the Wheels 2 Roval Rapide CLX 32 mm climbing wheels August last yr . And a few yrs b4 that l put a Sworks Headstem & Sworks Carbon Aerofly 2 Bars . Bottom Bracket has been improved 2 a better Bottom Bracket .
This is my training bike indoors/outdoors
Also purchased in separate parts an S-Works SL7 54cm Tarmac Shimano Dura Ace Di2 12 Speed Groupset. ×2 sets of Wheels. Roval Rapide CLX 32mm & the Roval Rapide CLX 52/60 Wheels.
Saddle : S-Works Mirror 143 mm Carbon Rails Printed Saddle. Handle Bars Vission full Carbon Cockpit & XPro 15 Peddals .
Both will never see 👀 bad weather .
The SL7 $ 23.5K . Insured . Didn't pay that much . Best negotiating u have ever seen .
So, to conclude, road bikes are now heavier, objectively uglier, more difficult to work on, vastly more expensive, but slightly faster...
And the only notable innovations that occurred in the last decade have been either borrowed from mountain bikes (disc brakes, clutched derailleurs) where they've been staple for years, or from using semiconductors, batteries and hidden motors in place of mechanical parts (in a supposedly human-powered sport), to change gears because it was easier and cheaper than making mechanical components better (while simultaneously charging much more for this).
I don't want to call that rate of progress 'glacial', because the safety bicycle hasn't really changed at all since John Kemp Starlet's original design.
But, you could definitely call that industry cynical.
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