Paper Mache Clay with Plaster of Paris - Does it Work?
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2020
- Is it possible to make paper mache clay with plaster of Paris instead of pre-mixed drywall joint compound?
People have been asking me that for years. I didn't really think it would work, but I finally decided to try it and find out for sure.
In this experiment I show you that it is indeed possible to make a version of paper mache clay with plaster, but the result isn't the same as the original recipe.
It can only be used for a few hours before it gets too hard to use, so you'll need to make very small batches. Use the paper mache clay recipe with the gram measurements to make it easy to cut the recipe in half or quarters: • Paper Mache Clay - Mea...
Or use the Silky Smooth Air Dry Clay recipe instead: www.ultimatepapermache.com/ne...
Whichever recipe you try, remember to not put the flour in until everything else is completely mixed in. Run your mixer for three to five minutes, and then add flour if you need it.
Also remember that the spoon, beaters and bowls don't get washed in your sink - plaster will harden under water, even inside your pipes. Throw them in a bowl of water, rinse them off, and throw the water outside.
If you have pre-mixed joint compound available, I recommend using it instead of plaster of Paris. The original recipe that uses drywall joint compound instead of plaster will stay usable for much longer (weeks, in fact, if you keep it covered and in the fridge). It feels creamier when applying it to the armature, too - I think it just feels nicer.
On the other hand, the slowly stiffening plaster version does let you apply it quickly when it's first made, and then sculpt details later as it gets stiffer - kind of like working with epoxy clay.
Go ahead and try the plaster version - you may like it better than I do.
You can find plaster of Paris in any DIY store, or you can buy it online (affiliate link) amzn.to/2UqWQbm
If you're interested in making any of the animal sculptures and masks that you see behind me in the video, click here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/pa...
If you experiment with using the plaster instead of joint compound, please let us know -- Do you like it? Did it stay workable long enough? Were you happy with the final result? Let us know in the comments below. - Навчання та стиль
If you were really determined, you could 'slake' the plaster of Paris (add way more water than necessary, stir, let sit for a few minutes, pour off extra water and repeat until you have non active plaster), and add pvc glue to make a sort of drywall compound but I'm not sure if anyone is interested in that much work. I slake my own plaster to make gesso and for making icons/egg tempera.
How u make gessooooo
I only use three ingredients.
Paper, Plaster of Paris , and pva glue 😊
Hi! This video was super helpful.
just wanted to let you know, for this recipe, I used it and learned alot about it.
Here are the TLDR tips for using P.O.P paper mache clay, and the full sculpting experience is listed underneath.
- this clay takes roughly 4-5 hours before it is unworkable, as is in this recipe, (you can delay this time by using ice cold water to make the plaster, salt, and stirring very slowly until incorporated)
-this clay takes 10+ hours to completely set in open air, when the mixture has more flour, or is a thicker layer.
P.O.P clay CAN be stored, and still used after a full 24 hours (It has been in the fridge that long so far, I will update when it sets) Put your remaining clay in an airtight bag with water, knead the water into the clay, and keep in the fridge.
Any part of the clay that is covered/enclosed where there is less air, will take much longer to set.
The fridge cold clay takes HOURS to set, even when making a relatively thin layer. Using a thin layer of cold clay, still took longer than 8 hours to set.
Plaster of paris sets when it's in conditions where it is warm, and exposed to air. If you keep your clay/sculpture somewhere airtight, and cold, it prevents the set at least a full 24 hours
If you want your sculpture to set faster, make the P.O.P with lukewarm or warm water, (the hotter the faster it sets, but note, if you use hot water the plaster starts to be unusable after like 5 minutes)
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I'm making a replica of a neolithic plastered skull for my art history class at my uni, and this recipe totally saved me.
Here are a few things I learned about the cure time while making my sculpture
This recipe, as you made it in the video, takes about 4-5 hours to set completely. The thicker you make your clay/layers, the longer it takes to set.
The first time I made my plaster I used ice cold salty water, and sifed the powder slowly into the water, slowly mixing it after.
With that plaster, I made the recipe and I added a very small amount of flour, to make a fairly thin paste layer that took roughly 4-5 hours to completely set.
One my layer was completely set, my leftover clay mixture had been left open on the counter in the bowl, and had thickened substantially, but not enough to hold it's own weight on the skull. I added a bit more flour and made it into a much thicker clay, and used the rest of it.
I left the finished head propped over a bowl, and left it overnight. I discovered that morning, roughly 8 hours later, most of the clay was set except the areas with the most clay, and even then, the clay on the figure wouldve been soft enough to remove from the figure (there was still a hardened "film" that you would need to wet the surface if you.wanted to adjust)
I discovered that the side that was hanging inside the bowl, hadnt fully set yet. I had to flip the head upside down and wait another 5ish hours for that to set completely.
I was shocked it took nearly a full day, and the figure to be out it open air, to set completely.
The next batch I made, I skipped the caution with the plaster of Paris, completely fine with it setting faster, and made a much bigger batch, this set about several hours faster, and I was able to add more layers the same day
I made a THICK dough, with lots of flour, and used it to make the rest of the figure. I had lots of clay leftover, so I added it to a storage bag, added a generous amount of water, and "rekneaded" the mixture in the bag, I made the bag as airtight as possible, sealed it, and put it in the fridge.
Thag night, a bunch of the clay wasnt set yet on the figure, but I added some of the fridge clay to do a quick additional detail to an already set area.
After a full night, the rest of the clay was set, except for the clay that was added from the fridge roughly 8 hours before.
The fridge clay was a thin layer, but I think because it was so cold the plaster took much longer to set.
This confirmed my suspicions when checking the bag fridge clay, now 24 hours old, and the clay was exactly the same as when I put it in the fridge. Cold, the same consistency, and definitely still usable.
Putting airtight lids on this clay makes a HUGE difference on set time, and the cold in combination has allowed it last even longer.
I will update when the clay sets in the fridge, but I think with how things are going, if you occasionally knead more water into it, I wouldnt be surprised if the clay lasted several days or even weeks, if properly sealed and stored
Thank you so much for this information! We would love to see your completed project. If you'd like to share some photos and tell us about it, you can do that here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/daily-sculptors-group-page
Thanks for sharing ! how long did the fridge portion take to set?
@@SadMtn sorry, I meant to go back and update it.
It lasted a total of like 2 weeks before it started getting gross. If the texture was ever too stiff, I would open the bag and add a bit of water, then seal it and knead the bag
But it lasted a long time, and was a great material for my project
@@topdonut3845 thanks !
What made the clay from the fridge take long to harden was probably not the temperature, but the repeated addition of water. With that, the clay becomes unreactive, so it doesn't react with water to bond and dry but rather just dries by evaporating, which takes significantly longer.
Wow! Great timing 😂 I was just about to order plaster of paris and I see this! Thank you so much
Glad I could help! 😀
I was so happy when I saw the notification! You’re amazing Joni we missed you!
Oh thank you! I wondered if anyone would notice I was on vacation. 😀
@@UltimatePaperMache Oh course! We definitely missed you but it’s good to take a break sometimes.
This is great news!, thank you for doing your experiment. I am a teacher and can't use premixed joint compound with students! Because of the formaldehyde and other toxic chemicals. But we could use plaster of Paris! Hooray!
Have fun! 😀
I love that you experiment, just for us... thank you. 😁
Glad you enjoy it! 😀
Glad to see you again 🤗✨
You too!! 😀
I’m so glad I found you. I’ve paper mache Black Plague Doctor masks which got me going into all sorts of paper mache. You’re my inspiring inspiration. Thanks
It's a good year for the plague Dr. masks! I'm glad you're having fun with the paper mache. 😀
@@UltimatePaperMache Yes, it’s taken me on a wild and crazy paper loving journey. Your information has showed me a lot.
oooooh been waiting on this! Getting my cuppa and planting me bum down to watch this one!
Cool - if you try it, please let us know what you think of this version of the paper mache clay! 😀
Obrigada Jonni!!! Eu adorei!!!
Thanks!
This is a great informational video. Thank you
You're welcome. If you try it, please let us know if it works for you.
You are brilliant! Thank you for teaching us.
My pleasure! 😀
Good to see you back Madame!
We, as you know, use portland cement as hardner and its just fine, but we also use flour for some plasticity on the paste as well as some cover cracks paste (don't know if thats joint compound) + white glue, bit of oil, salt and vinagre. It works good and the paste, unused, lasts for weeks when well sealed. After a month or so the cement particles tend to become solid, but apart from that, its all fine ! ;)
I can't understand why the cement doesn't harden faster. It does at my house. I must be missing something...
@@UltimatePaperMache I don't use measurements but I tend to use less cement than flour (so its not 50 / 50) ... But it does hardens, but just in small particles within the paste. For that to happen it takes weeks though
Thankyouuusomuch omg ❤ Blessed for sharing with us 🥰
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A trick to help slow the drying time of the plaster is to use some lemon juice. I've used it when my wall plastering was taking longer than expected. I just add some lemon juice to the stiffing plaster mix and it softens the mix up a bit, enough to get an extra half an hour or so.
Great tip! Thanks for letting us know. 😀
I keep some citric acid in my plaster tool kit for this exact reason mostly because I find it easier to store as the dry powder in my studio but I’m glad to know just lemon juice can also work!
Great review. Glad to know that plaster of Paris works for paper clay.👍😍 I experimenting with POP during the lockdown when my PVA glue finish and I am in love with it. I make DIY texture paste and varies the consistency by adding more plaster or flour. It works well for my craft projects.
That's interesting - what kind of projects do you use the texture paste for?
@@UltimatePaperMache she uses for mushroom making hut, jar hut craft.
Thanks for sharing and caring! I'm learning a lot! Thanks again!
My pleasure! 😀
I just need a small amount for my project, to fill in some holes and cover some stuff, I don't need it to stay workable for very long and want it to dry quick so this should work. Thanks for the recipes!
My finger caught fire pressing that notification 🔥🔥🔥 thanks so much❤️❤️❤️
Thanks! You watched the video less than 27 seconds after it was posted - I think that's a record! 😀
Same!
@@UltimatePaperMache I am beyond in love with all your videos :) I am attempting to make something special for my daughters birthday in 2 weeks. I need to know before you put your clay in do you need to cover the cardboard with paper mache first ? I hope you hear from you soon :)
@@UltimatePaperMache yaaaaaaasssssssss! *90's cup stacking adrenaline pumping in my veins* hey your videos are worth it, thank you!
Thank you so much for your help into doing projects.
You are so welcome! 😊
Thank you for making this video!
My pleasure!
I love your videos. You are so inspirational and creative! Your cheery attitude and quest for new and improved ways of perfecting paper mache make you a great teacher. Thank you!
I'm so glad! Thanks! 😀
I used the plaster of paris instead of joint compound a year ago i didn't premix it I just didn't squeeze alot of water out of the wet paper and used a tad more glue 2/3 cup then used the flour to thicken it if I needed it thicker and used the linseed oil as it called for in original recipe. I kept it in the fridge and was still soft wood glue works even better I thought. But that's what I use just add it dry to wet paper not too wet but wetter than the original recipe paper... By the way you are an Amazing teacher and artist, thank you for spending your time with us😊
Great experiment. I happen to live in a world without joint compound . But there is a lot of products for scrapes and holes in plaster walls. That’s going to be my experiment.
Good luck 😀
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😀hello i just made a 5 foot full body giraffe and tried to apply this exact plaster of paris to my giraffe and it was not good! It just hardened and cracked i had to take it all off then i used good old paper bags and glue and it came out beautiful i even made a baby giraffe too. These are my first sculptures i ever made and they are great i love ur channel also it gave me so much info for my sculptures!😁❤
That's interesting - so you used the plaster of paris instead of joint compound, and everything else just the same as the recipe, and it cracked? My tiny little experiments didn't crack, of course, but I didn't try to make anything larger. This is good to know - if anyone else tries it, I hope we can get more feedback on this issue.
@@UltimatePaperMache yes but like you said its a much bigger scale its 5 foot but working in small batches may work but i did not try this.😊
@@jessicadreari6920 I hope we get more feedback from others to see if this is a common problem, even with the smaller batches. The only way we can find out is to try it. 🙂
@@UltimatePaperMache yes i agree by the way your sculptures are beautiful! ❤
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Great video as always! You are the best teacher. We definitely missed you during your absence. Adding about a 1/4 teaspoon of table salt per cup of water (dissolved into the water before mixing the other ingredients) will greatly extend your work time. Painting the spread-out, plaster-infused surface with watercolors or gouache after it's gotten firm but before it's fully cured gives a wonderful fresco-like effect where the paint combines with the surface.
Great tip! I like the idea of coloring it that way. Thanks! 😀
Joni, how did it do as far as shrinking? I think this might be a great idea for small projects that you want to have harden up quite quickly...Appreciative of ALL your recipes and tips and hints. I am blessed in my work because of it. Thank you!
Hi Christie. I didn't actually measure it for shrinkage. I'm sure it does shrink a little, but probably not nearly as much as a mix that doesn't include the plaster. If you happen to try it, and if you get in a scientific mood, go ahead and measure it - and then let us know what you find out! (Delegating is fun! 😀 )
I'm so happy this work! i can not make the clay with pre-mixed drywall joint compound bcs they sold it just at 50kg, which is a lot.
That is heavy! The largest package of pre-mixed joint compound at our local store is just five gallons.
So through lockdown (im UK) after watching your videos and of COURSE subscribing - I keep noticing the wonderful animal heads that sit behind you and it is that work that has inspired me to move into larger sculpts. I currently make highly detailed sugarwork. May I ask - how do you hang the heads on the wall? Is there a video with that part included? Id be so very grateful for any pointers😊.
Hi Kim. The animals behind me in the video are all made with cardboard patterns, and there's a flat piece that can be used as a back. I just drill a hole in the back piece, near the top, and hang them on the wall. I don't know if that would work with your craft or not.
@@UltimatePaperMache fab😁 Thku so much for your help and quick reply. So il have a look at cardboard options🙂
I dont even make paper mache sculptures but I needed a way to harden a cardboard sheet for a template, I checked out your channel, suscribed and learned a bunch of stuff, I tried Stucco + Wood glue , painted the sheet with the mixture and sanded it flat using 150/240/400/800 grit sand paper, it looks and feels like plastic. Thankk you for the tips.
Interesting - was the glue mixed right in with the stucco, in place of water?
@@UltimatePaperMache I used a ready-mixed stucco paste and it was easy to mix, I got like a pancake mix consistency when I added the glue.
Another great vid! Are these last ones now water proof? Thank you again.
No, plaster isn't waterproof, either. Did you see my videos about the garden gnome I made, with no paper mache in it? It's holding up really well outside: ua-cam.com/video/gyqsBl2jBqI/v-deo.html
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Cool.I,ve played around with similar mixes ,and it does have its uses/areas.As you said ,in a pinch... I talked to a fx guy once ,& he found himself in Siri Lanka working a film ,and was in the middle of NOWHERE ,the nearest hobby shop....thousands of miles...he used some very primitive stuff ,like flour/water ,mud...( lol ...sorry ),plaster ,& dried weeds... i like your compounds/mixes ,as they are quite useful in builds, low cost ,safer alternatives to modern ,chemical laced ,expensive materials . Thumbs WAY up !
Thanks, Gene. That sounds like an interesting guy you met. Very inventive! 😀
@@UltimatePaperMache yes ,he was.did what he could with what he had.i dig up red clay here that can be worked & fired after mesh cleaning.Enjoy the hell outta your channel : D thanks
This is actually great for me! I like the original silky smooth recipe but I need a fast(er) drying clay to use in molds, and also drywall compound is so hard to find in my country at a price that’s not astronomical. Thank you for sharing with us!
I'm glad it helped. By the way, I'd love to know how large your molds are. I know the air dry clay recipe works in small silicone molds, like the ones made for candy, but do you know if it works in larger molds, too? I'm thinking about using a larger mold for a project I'm currently working on, but I'm a little nervous about trying it.
Thank you so much for these experiments! I have watched three of your mix videos. Question: What kinds of paper have you experimented with? Have you tried paper towel?
I've tried toilet paper, brown paper and newspaper, but not paper towels. They may be made especially to hold together when wet, which could make it difficult to get the fibers to come apart - but if you try it, let us know if it worked.
As a retired dentist, and terra cotta, sculptor, I'm very interested in your offerings . Seems there's a connection in the two media. Now, I'll pass on, unconfirmed, the suggestion that the "pot" time and the "set" time can be extended by adding salt to the water before mixing. I've never done that because, in dentistry we were looking for fast, not slow. Please check that suggestion out, and try it in small batches first. I never dealt with a combo of these materials. Definitely going to give your original a try. Thanks.
Wow thanks! I got sucked down into paper clay making videos and about 4 videos in it struck me, couldn’t you use plaster of paris for this? I know its great for making diy sidewalk chalk for kids and thought that would probably go into paper clay pretty well! It’s like you are a mind reader!
Well, not quite - I really didn't think it would work at all, so you're the one who was right. 😀 I do still think the version with premixed drywall joint compound is better, though - if you can get the stuff. It isn't easy in some places, but it's worth looking for if you have the time.
Thanks....
You're welcome! 😀
Hi. I saw you making nice stuff and knowing a lot about mediums. I had a question. What can i use best working with plaster of paris ? I want to use it on canvas with textile. Maybe linnen or so. What can i do to make it work? I dont want cracks or the plaster to break (down) i need a good recipe to make it work. I want that plaster look. Maybe you have any advise. Thnx in advances. Xx
Canvas is flexible and changes its shape with the changes in humidity. I don't recommend using any form of plaster directly over stretched canvas. You might want to try my air dry clay recipe over canvas board, instead. ua-cam.com/video/YOiovGN-yHA/v-deo.html
Thanks Jonni. I'm curious how this would work outdoors. The original recipe absorbs rainwater and breaks down, right? Perhaps that is not so with plaster of paris? something to test, in any case. Thanks for all you do!
No, plaster of Paris can't be left outside, either. I recommend using a waterproof material for ourdoor sculptures. Have you seen my garden gnome videos? I used the same sculpting technique that I use for my paper mache sculptures, but without using any paper mache: ua-cam.com/video/xXSsRo59Kwo/v-deo.html
I would think, what you have leftover, could be used over some balled up newspaper covered in masking tape for quickie rocks and such. Or pressed into some cheap novelty ice molds.
Yes, that would be a great way to make some scenery for a model train set. And it would be nice to not have to throw out the material when it gets too hard to work with. The original paper mache clay doesn't have that problem because you can cover it and put in in the fridge and it stays workable for days.
Oh my goodness, how do I get that giraffe head?? Amazing work!! I'm a giraffe collector...
Hi Melonie. You can find the pattern for the giraffe (and see how other people have used it to make a giraffe of their own) on this page: www.ultimatepapermache.com/giraffe
Thanks for asking! 😀
Thanks for sharing .... Maam insteaded of P.O.P we can use chalk powder....nice video ....
I think you might be able to use chalk powder, but you'd need to test it. I haven't tried it myself.
Thank you for a much needed video, I am wondering if you have left the lump of clay out in the open, without covering it? I imagine it would have lasted more if covered properly.
Plaster of Paris will get hard, whether it's covered or not. Some people have said that their clay with plaster stayed workable longer than mine, but I don't know what they did differently. I recommend making a small batch at a time, so you don't have to worry about it getting hard before you get to use it.
Thank you so much for your quick reply! Aren’t you awesome 😎
I will try it tomorrow as I really need to find a recipe that is solid enough to be able to put in a plaster mold, yet can receive the fine details of the mold 🌸🤍🌸
@@RazanSmairat Paper mache clay will stick to a plaster mold, unless you use a really good release. Be sure to test it before you use a mold that can't be replaced.
🥺 oh you are so sweet, thank you sooo much for your support 🙏🏼💜
Keeping this clay moist, and sealed in the fridge DOES stop curing time for at LEAST a full 24 hours.
Quickly, let me add a couple of things that were so ingrained I didn't think of it. Always add plaster to the water, fairly, reasonably slowly. Your water should be as cold as you can get it above freezing, and keep it cold as best you can (I thinking of the part you're not working with - even in the fridge) The mixture of plaster and water is exothermic, which means it will begin to make its own heat, if you let it. I don't know about the mixing it with other materials.
Thanks for making this, i have questions is it safe to use paris of plaster? Or should i use gloves and mask when using it?
I prefer kneading the clay instead of using stick to put the mixture on my model
@@kyla8898 If you want to get your hands in the clay, you'll probably want to use gloves. The plaster of Paris will pull the moisture out of your skin.
Did you replace all the flour with the Plaster of Paris too, or just the joint compound and still used the corn flour (cornstarch) but no plain flour?
I didn't add either corn starch or flour until the very end. If you use the corn starch instead of flour, the mixture will be a little less sticky, and smoother. Don't add it until everything else is mixed together, though, so you'll be able to tell how much flour or cornstarch you need.
I use POP with ppaper mache it works wery well
do you use normal glue with the plaster of Paris as well? Should I use "flour glue" - cooked - with plaster of Paris?
With the paper mache clay recipes I use PVA glue - Elmer's Glue-All. I don't use flour and water glue with plaster of Paris.
I wonder if leaving it in the fridge wrapped in cling wrap and in a sealed freezer bag might help. Keep moisture and the cool should help slow the curing, so if you need a lot for a big project in one day, separate them into smaller pieces in separate bags and keep them in the fridge to use one at a time.
I also hear washing your plaster helps, (like rice)
It's worth a try, but it might be easier to just make small batches as you need them.
Hi Jonni
Long time, no see! LOL
Yes, I took a short vacation to work on a personal project (and binge-watching sculpting videos on YT). My project isn't quite finished yet, but I have a few days off from my vacation while waiting for one last item to arrive so I had time to put this experiment together. After that I should show up more often on UA-cam. 😀
@@UltimatePaperMache Awesome! Sometimes, its good to take breaks to clear your mind. Look forward to see your next project.
okay so this is using plaster instead of dry wall joint compound in YOUR paper mache clay recipe? correct? I have so much pottery plaster I’m excited to make into a clay to sculpt with using ur recipe, I plan on screaming a shape with cardboard and using your clay recipe with plaster to cover it with
Yes, this is my recipe, but changed to allow the substitution of plaster instead of the joint compound. It doesn't work exactly the same way, so be sure to watch the video to see what's different.
Morning Jonni. I am still trying to get joint compound. One shop here said "plaster skim " is the same as joint compound. Do you agree?
If it's used to fill in the crack between two sheets of drywall (also called plaster board or sheet rock) then it's the right product. This video shows how the joint compound is actually used for it's original intended purpose: ua-cam.com/video/3T7vu20Ac5Q/v-deo.html
@@UltimatePaperMache thank you I appreciate it
Do you think it would be stronger/more durable since it is plaster
I don't think the plaster made it stronger. The original paper mache clay dries really hard and strong. You wouldn't want to play football with it, but it's much stronger than most sculpting materials. The plaster's main advantage is that it's really hard for some people to find the drywall joint compound in their area.
Does plaster of paris is brittle? I saw some video that it say that plaster of Paris is brittle. I dont have plaster of Paris yet so im just making sure if it is worth to buy
It has no structural strength by itself, but in this recipe the paper fibers and the glue hold everything together.
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Hi. I was wondering if it's possible to make a plaster of Paris mould and use it with paper maché?
I believe that people have done it, but there are some challenges. First, you'll need to use a good release because paper mache will stick to plaster, and without a release you'll never get it out. The other issue is that you can't take it out of the mold until it's hard, so if there are any undercuts the casting will be caught inside the mold and you won't be able to get it out without damaging it. It's much easier, (and much more expensive), to use a silicone mold. You can see how that's done here: ua-cam.com/video/zevmy70b4oo/v-deo.html
@@UltimatePaperMache Alright, I understand. Thankyou so much for the quick response :))
Can you use the clay in moulds?
I haven't tried this version, but I did try the original paper mache clay recipe in silicone molds, and it didn't work very well. I couldn't get a good casting because of the texture of the paper in the mix. A lot of people have used the air dry clay version in small silicone molds, though, and they say it works well. It will shrink, though, so I don't think it would work well in a larger mold. You can find that recipe here: ua-cam.com/video/YOiovGN-yHA/v-deo.html
Many use that in chalk paint. More mixed with it breaks down the slowing and hardening effect. Assume same concept here with glue, oil and flour. Our stores out here only sell dap brand joint compound. Really annoying going to both home depot and lowes. Both only had dap.
Yes, DAP seems to be cornering the joint compound market. I have to buy mine at Walmart - the only store within 50 miles that carries a non-DAP brand. But the Walmart stuff works, and it's cheap. 😄
@@UltimatePaperMache Oh, I will have to go to walmart. then :)
@@leosuniverse I was able to order it online, yes, paid a little for shipping, but it was worth it and it was delivered to my home...Blessings!
@@christiedecker2724 I know but it was on a day I needed to finish a project. lol...thanks
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I actually add plaster of Paris to my acrylic paint WITHOUT the water, and I can actually leave it in a Dixie cup for at least 6 hours without it globbing up, I've even left it overnight by accident (without putting it in an airtight container or bag, in which I'd get a couple days use), lol, and it was still usable, I'd just have to add more paint to thin it out. I wonder if you mix the plaster of Paris right into the tp & glue without water & add water as you need it.... And if it's too thin, then add more plaster, instead of flour at the end
Oh and the reason I add it to my acrylic paint is to get a chalk paint, very very matte finish without having to buy tons of different colors in chalk paint as it's more expensive.
That's an interesting idea, but I've never tried it. If you do an experiment, please let us know how it turns out.
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Can we use paper mache in molds?
Yes - the traditional paper mache with paper strips and paste will work in molds. I have a video that shows you how. ua-cam.com/video/zevmy70b4oo/v-deo.html
Paper mache clay doesn't work as well in molds, because the paper fibers keep it from making a good casting. But you could try it.
So the recipe ratio is identical to your original, aside from the substitution?
Yes - but you'll want to make just half of the regular recipe, and don't add any flour until after mixing everything else together. Have fun with it.
@@UltimatePaperMache is the decreased batch size for workability? or will it just not work otherwise?
@@jakef5043 The plaster in this mixture will cause the paper mache clay to get solid much sooner than the original recipe. I wouldn't make a batch that was more than I could use in a few hours.
Do you use glue with this Paris recepie
Yes - the only change I made to the recipe was to substitute the plaster of Paris for the premixed drywall joint compound we usually use. You can find the written recipe on this page of my blog: www.ultimatepapermache.com/paper-mache-clay-without-joint-compound
Hi what is the original recipe?can I have a link?
You bet. ua-cam.com/video/1YQ6eUqcEh8/v-deo.html
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How long does the plaster clay last for?
Mine stayed workable for a few hours. It's best to make small batches.
@@UltimatePaperMache sorry I meant how long does it last for after used and dried
@@cosmicfxx Your finished sculptures should last for many years, if you keep them dry.
What about calcium carbonate instead of flour?
It might work. You'd have to try it. 😀
Does this make it weatherproof?
No, it doesn't. Plaster of Paris is very absorbent. However, I just posted a new recipe that uses Portland cement in the paper mache clay mixture, and although it's still experimental it does appear to be much more weatherproof. You can see that video here: ua-cam.com/video/8JzjIZVlSd8/v-deo.html
@@UltimatePaperMache Thank you for answering
Estaría bien poner subtítulos en castellano.. gracias
Try clicking on the Closed Captions (CC) icon below the video, then click on the Gear icon, and choose Subtitles, and then Auto-Translate, and choose your language. It's a lot of clicks, but it should help. >per google translate: Haga clic en el ícono de Subtítulos (CC) debajo del video, luego haga clic en el ícono de engranaje, elija Subtítulos, luego Traducir automáticamente y elija su idioma. Son muchos clics, pero debería ayudar.
why not use the plaster of paris INSTEAD of flour? still using the dry wall compound?
That might not work. You could try it and see. Be sure to let us know how it turns out. 😊
I would like to show you what I did with your paper mache clay Where I can send pictures ?
You can share your work here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/daily-sculptors-group-page
Old lady's are adorable
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I can't find the recipes or any other information.
There are links to several recipes in the description area below the video. Which ones are you looking for?
J’aimerais tant comprendre toutes vos explications, mais je ne parle pas anglais 😥😔
If you put a tablespoon of white sugar in the water BEFORE you add your plaster, it delays the setting up speed of the plaster. Same thing with white glue. Just a bit dissolved in the water greatly slows down the plasters setting up speed. You wouldnt want to mix all your glue in the water or the plaster wont mix in. Youre just looking for that catalytic amount that interferes with the plasters speed of hydration *setting up*...
Interesting - thanks for the tip!
also Salt SPEEDS IT UP! Any Chloride Salt will have this effect. Also just freshly set plaster of paris... just a chip of it, tossed in to just mixed liquid plaster of paris can "flash" set it. Becareful, flash setting can generate quite a bit of heat in the plaster. There have been injuries from this...
Maybe veggie glycerine would slow it down even more?? Just a thought. Thank you for teaching your knowledge! Love your vidz! Hug from Norway
Maybe... please try it and find out for us. 😊
I'm so confused...paper mache cly, dry wall compound, plaster clay?? Ugh, not sure what to do...
I have different recipes because some people can't find the drywall joint compound in their country. I did an experiment to see if using plaster instead would work. It does, but if you can find the premixed drywall joint compound at your local DIY store, I recommend using the original recipe. It's easier to work with. You can find that recipe here: ua-cam.com/video/1YQ6eUqcEh8/v-deo.html
That you can find it like a dental supply too.
Yes, you could. I wonder if they charge more? And there is a kind of plaster used in the construction industry that is much slower to get hard, but I can't remember what it's called or where to find it.
Measurements, please?
I used the original air dry clay recipe, but replaced the drywall joint compound with the plaster of paris that had been mixed with water, as shown at the 4:49 mark. The written recipe is here: www.ultimatepapermache.com/new-air-dry-clay-recipe
Dry wall compound is only gypsum
But the premixed kind that's used in my original paper mache clay recipe has other stuff in it. I have no idea what, though - but it does make really nice paper mache clay. 😀
Plaster of Paris will also dry faster if it is mixed with hot water and salt
Thanks for the tip. 😊
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Do you ever have a problem with cracking? I'm going to do my first project using your original recipe, but I wonder about cracking like the commercially made air dry clay does. What a disappointment that stuff is.
I've been using Jonni's recipes and they do not crack, they are very nice to work with and get very hard once they are fulling dry. Also Jonni's clay will last for 3 months if you put it into an airtight container, and keep it in the frige until you need it again. when you smooth it with a wet knife while is damp you'll get a nice finish, then when it's completely dry you can sand it for an extra smooth finish. It paints up so nice to. Jonni's awesome, she won't stir you wrong on anything.
I haven't used this version of the paper mache clay on anything larger than the little slabs I showed in the video. Another person did comment that she used a similar recipe with plaster of Paris and it did crack. I never get any cracking with the original paper mache clay recipe, although that could happen if it is placed over a hard surface, like a glass bottle. Does your commercial air dry clay crack when you use just a thin layer, like we do when we use the paper mache clay?
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