In the comics Etrigan shows up Wonder Woman all the time lol. In a later appearance he defeated like an entire gang of magical Wonder Woman clones and stuff. Pretty weird how they chose to represent him in the movie.
Nah Kalibak lost badly to like early early Kyle Rayner and a Darkstar and even got knocked out by Gorilla Grodd hitting him with a rock one time, he was defeated by a weaker early Firestorm too. He is supposed to be the second strongest person on Apokolips and was at one point said to be equal in strength physically to Orion and stuff but he often gets bopped and basically never wins a fight. Definitely a jobber lol. Wonder Woman probably still gets smoked more often though but she gets more impressive wins than him too so.
Does anybody else remember the Super-Demon(Kal'El//Superman//Etrigan/Jason Blood mixup), from Multiversity? The character all of a sudden makes more sense...
Bro... I love your vids so much I really wanna save this to watch at my overnight job tomorrow, but I also really wanna watch this right now, so I’ll do both.
@@eivor2881 When? I only know of one time she has ripped out a brothers heart but that wasn't Belial and Etrigan wasn't part of that story. So when did that happen?
@@antonakesson raven has a very long history with her brothers one time she took etrigan's corpse into her self and raven has a lot of blood in her hands too one time she one shot all of her brothers who had the power to destroy universes and pretty sure it was belial she speed blitzed him and ripped his heart out of his chest in an elseworld raven ripped etrigan in half sentry style even in canon she's still above him tho she one time killed an army of demons 3000 in a massacre. Raven has long deadly nails and can manipulate hellfire and shoot lasers from her eyes
@@eivor2881 You mention Etrigan a lot even though you also say brothers. Etrigan is not a brother. But yes, I do believe it was Belial she ripped out the heart of in New 52 to make a point.
I've heard vs battle wiki (not the most credible source but whatever) say that marvel has a larger scale of a multiverse than dc, where every moment that passes in every timeline( therefore multiverse) splits into many other infinite variations of that specific moment (which can be any), therefore making its own time line. Therefore, it forms a sort of infinity^infinity type of multiverse as compared to a normal multiverse in DC. I'd like to hear your views on this.
That would be just stacking multiversal+ layers wouldn't have a higher tier. That's not even that good in scaling. And potentially you can argue that dc main Multi-verse is higher via statements of higher dimensions. Although marvel also has statements of infinite levels of exsistence. You can argue that the main marvel Multi-verse is bigger than the DC main Multi-verse but in the end dc is just bigger via higher dimensions.
I have now decided that Etrigan is 100% carrying around the honest-to-God Whirlagog, and no one can convince me otherwise. It's just too entertaining a scenario to not be true.
Is all of this stuff still Canon because a lot of that was new 52 you were talking about wasn't it from demon knights but then you're bringing back his pre-crisis continuity I don't know if that stuff blends or not
Yeah what the guy over powder The Spectre on this comic is crazy,& didn't add up, just like they make Surttur bite off Spectre head off him that easy didn't make any sense. But it happen in the Dark Multiverse side so its possible that Spectre wasn't as Powerful like the main continuity Spectre.
@@gabrielhughes8221 nah I'm pretty sure these dark multiverse stories spectre are as powerful as the prime earth spectre And I don't see why ya'll are saying it's inconsistent Surtur literally has like 6 or 8 appearances in comics anyway So idk why it needs a explanation to why he killed spectre so easily
@@lostgod2247 well we can like it that way. But remember the time when the world Forger trap the main Superman in a Empty void. And we see the other Version of the Corpses boded of Superman . Their didn't last that long there because it stated their wasn't the original a.k.a the main continuity Superman. That goes out to all the main continuity heroes and villains alike.
@@lostgod2247 But yeah the dark Multiverse may be or could be as powerful but their wouldn't be equal as Powerful then the main continuity. That like if you the main original @ Lost God would the other side from another altar universe would be the same as you are more Powerful than you? It could possibly be slas that, but that just an theory. But never 100 % guarantee. That why if you play the game of the injustice. In the storyline the main continuity Superman is stronger than the injustice Superman, and the main continuity Wonder woman is better and stronger than injustice Wonder woman. Well its separated from the continuity storyline in DC. But nevertheless the created and the one who work on the injustice Comics all agree about that. So yeah its more easier to debated about it more to debunked because there no concrete ground to pinpoint it.
Nice video. How about a marvel cosmology explained video? Also what you think is bigger? Dc or marvel? Which omniverse including everything they showed till now is bigger??
@@eivor2881 20:30 he kills lucifer and amped belial is stated to be the most powerful being to ever sit on the throne of hell. King Etrigan kills him too. This means king etrigan is the most powerful hell lord ever. Doesn't it?
@@eivor2881 well it was a direct statement that he was more powerful than lucifer. I don't think that counts as PIS does it? also it was due to an amp so it wouldn't be an inconsistancy. base etrigan obviously can't do that
@@eivor2881 I think it’s believable since Merlin is extremely powerful, so a boost from him, on top of a boost from the crown of horns (which is an incredibly powerful item on its own) is believable that he is above Lucifer, especially since Etrigan is already much more powerful than he usually is.
@@melkor9121 ok in that video he also says that Etrigan is stronger then Lucifer(tho lucifer can beat him with outsmarting him) something Michael doesn't have
@@Bigsmoke-tn3wf later on Lucifer says to Dream Morpheus of the Endless that he does not choose to eliminate them because he is amused by them and he knows he can't be harmed and so goes with the general flow. Webcam parrot addressed it later (in the second one I think)
@@johnsmjs36 I ask this because fans wank the hell out of this character to outversal which he is not. DC lucifer is multiversal at best. Vertigo version is another level
You realize that if you are separating DC and Vertigo like this that "vertigo" Lucifer would be much much much weaker right? Most of the good cosmology statements are in DC publications. There isn't really any reason to separate them, I went over this in my in-depth Lucifer Morningstar series. I view them as 100% the same character to do otherwise just seems arbitrary to me. What you would even consider "vertigo Lucifer" appeared in several DC publications even when Sandman was still ongoing and his actions in Sandman are referenced in main DC titles.
Hi mate, when people say Trigon has conquered innumerable dimensions. What does the dimension stand for. I heard different answers like 1, dimension is a universe 2, dimension is its own multiverse And when they say Trigon is pan dimensional. Doesn’t that also insert or even prove why injustice comic is canon.
Can you also address this issue in your video. I checked every website on the internet. Every UA-cam video. No one asks the question about how unprepared Trigon comes to a fight. Whenever people argue, they assume Trigon is already in his peak. But, we don’t know and we won’t be able to see if he was in his peak. Since, he just destroy things. This is the most important question I have? I saw a comic text where Trigon says he was shaped by the evil and not created. I had the same feeling and remembered you video on pralaya.
@@Numidium_ He was shaped by evil, yeah, becoming (basically) the embodiment of it. Also, there's no reason to assume that Trigon comes unprepared to a fight, since no one's stupid enough to go and try to take him on without there being a reason for it, and if there is a reason, well, Trigon is going to expect people to show up sometime, so they probably won't surprise him. And the fact that he isn't at his peak wouldn't be a problem, since Trigon almost never utilizes his full strength anyways. As for him going to a fight, if he already knows who he's going to fight, he knows how powerful he'll need to be in order to win. If he doesn't know who he's going to fight, he can usually just find it out anyways. So the reason no one really talks about if Trigon would be unprepared for a fight is because he almost never is.
I hope you all enjoyed, look out for future parts and future videos on The Super Weapon of the Old Gods Mageddon and Parallax Hal Jordan.
When will you be doing marvel characters again? also great video man
Another great vid lad
Sorry if you answered this already but will we ever get the trigon video.
i wish you will do a video like this for dr fate or phantom stranger powerwise
Well your statement of "hell is mindset and a location" is true to irl storys about hell ~ 2:50
The Spectre is DC's main punching bag when someone needs to look impressive.
I was thinking the same thing 🤣
That is true but we all know characters like that , for example vegeta or Archie Shadow
So like the dc version of galactus
@@someidiot62 nop dcs version of living tribunals. Thats what him right now
Pretty much but they at least try to make excuses for why @@someidiot62
In the movie Justice League: AW he was killed in one move by Wonder Woman :) I hate how DC animations nerfed their own characters ...
Wonder Woman is literally the most overpowered DC superhero.
Especially according to the death metal comics
In the comics Etrigan shows up Wonder Woman all the time lol. In a later appearance he defeated like an entire gang of magical Wonder Woman clones and stuff. Pretty weird how they chose to represent him in the movie.
What’s funny is in the JLU show she got one shotted by Kalibak lol and this guy gets his ass beat by everybody lol
@Shawn Kuhn in the JLU Kalibak was a jobber for some reason. He lost every single fight he was involved in. Even Batman tossed him around
Nah Kalibak lost badly to like early early Kyle Rayner and a Darkstar and even got knocked out by Gorilla Grodd hitting him with a rock one time, he was defeated by a weaker early Firestorm too. He is supposed to be the second strongest person on Apokolips and was at one point said to be equal in strength physically to Orion and stuff but he often gets bopped and basically never wins a fight.
Definitely a jobber lol. Wonder Woman probably still gets smoked more often though but she gets more impressive wins than him too so.
First Ghost Rider becomes the king of hell now Etrigan? They even sit in the exact same fashion on the throne!
Wait when did Ghost rider become king of hell?
Still waiting on the Death Battle here.
His auntie left him disembewled once
Temporary
@@eivor2881 his father's heart you mean not Etrigan himself
Sup parrot glad your back from the break man I miss these
Hello programmer number 9
Only channel worth having notifications on
Yep
In DC, you'll always get shown how powerful a character is when The Spectre always gets his ass beat by them
😂😂😂😂
I love the fact that thanks to retcons Raven is Etrigan's aunt. This is the kind of stuff you expect from Greek mythology
I absolutely love your videos dude, keep em comin! I love your little comedic inserts - "Go to Ireland, nerds.".
I mean I wasn't about to read that whole long ass poem out.
I already liked the video before I watched it because I already know it’s going to be that good
Same here
But I'm already annoyed by Etrigan's rhyming
Baby Etrigan and WebCamParrot are the best things to exist.
If anyone is the best powerscaler
It's you
Merlin seem to be a name used a lot for a great user of magic, there are a few characters with that name in fiction.
Everytime I see youve uploaded something, it's pure happiness dude..... Keep it up 💪
Does anybody else remember the Super-Demon(Kal'El//Superman//Etrigan/Jason Blood mixup), from Multiversity? The character all of a sudden makes more sense...
24:50 Merlin gets killed by a bush of Hawthorn! When can we expect avbideo about the powers Hawthorn bush? XD
Bro... I love your vids so much I really wanna save this to watch at my overnight job tomorrow, but I also really wanna watch this right now, so I’ll do both.
So Etrigon is Raven's nephew?
Auntie Raven? But she's not a 10th my age, even!
- Etrigon 2023
The spectre gets the avatar of khaine treatment
Webcamparrot is big brain
the only way to make this any better:
the entire script rhyming
Ah yes, dear little Ravens nephew. It feels weird to say that Raven is the aunt to Etrigan and Merlin and little sister to Belial XD.
Raven ripped Belial's heart out of his chest and left Etrigan disembewled
@@eivor2881 When? I only know of one time she has ripped out a brothers heart but that wasn't Belial and Etrigan wasn't part of that story. So when did that happen?
@@antonakesson raven has a very long history with her brothers one time she took etrigan's corpse into her self and raven has a lot of blood in her hands too one time she one shot all of her brothers who had the power to destroy universes and pretty sure it was belial she speed blitzed him and ripped his heart out of his chest in an elseworld raven ripped etrigan in half sentry style even in canon she's still above him tho she one time killed an army of demons 3000 in a massacre. Raven has long deadly nails and can manipulate hellfire and shoot lasers from her eyes
@@eivor2881 You mention Etrigan a lot even though you also say brothers. Etrigan is not a brother. But yes, I do believe it was Belial she ripped out the heart of in New 52 to make a point.
@@antonakesson ik and he's her nephew
25:16 Uhhhhhh What? The Kiss caught me so off guard lol
Bro you are on fire recently
I love your videos! Thank you!
notification squad here!
I've heard vs battle wiki (not the most credible source but whatever) say that marvel has a larger scale of a multiverse than dc, where every moment that passes in every timeline( therefore multiverse) splits into many other infinite variations of that specific moment (which can be any), therefore making its own time line. Therefore, it forms a sort of infinity^infinity type of multiverse as compared to a normal multiverse in DC. I'd like to hear your views on this.
That would be just stacking multiversal+ layers wouldn't have a higher tier. That's not even that good in scaling. And potentially you can argue that dc main Multi-verse is higher via statements of higher dimensions. Although marvel also has statements of infinite levels of exsistence. You can argue that the main marvel Multi-verse is bigger than the DC main Multi-verse but in the end dc is just bigger via higher dimensions.
Dc literally has the exact same statement for it's "multiverse" it's in my DC cosmology video.
@@WebCamParrot
Alright.
The same happens in dc
@Gasper Vidovic when did I say it didn't
I have now decided that Etrigan is 100% carrying around the honest-to-God Whirlagog, and no one can convince me otherwise.
It's just too entertaining a scenario to not be true.
Best channel
Can you make 1 vs 1 series?
Was that the Tower of Latria OST from Demons Souls I heard? If so you have wonderful taste
Close it's the "Old Monk" soundtrack from Demon Souls. Soicy recommended it to me actually.
@@WebCamParrot Awesome. Old Monk is the final boss in the Tower of Latria. Demons Souls is an absolute classic. Fantastic video as always dude.
Yeah I know but it's different from the main Tower of Latria track iirc. But yeah just felt like it fit the theme of the video well.
@@WebCamParrot youre correct it is a separate track i just generalized. I think it fits very well with Etrigan
Ive always seen Etrigan as an extra in the background, kinda making a statement of how dangerous a place is.
Etrigan is a C list character
@@بشرى-ث8ذ3ش he's a C list character that should be a B lister.
What is the music track called that is playing on the chapter of hellers earth?
I recognize it but can find it.
Etrigan be scraping straight from the womb 😎
this gonna be good
Would you be willing to cover the animated/ live action mediums? I think those would be fun.
Thank you...love the programs.
Is all of this stuff still Canon because a lot of that was new 52 you were talking about wasn't it from demon knights but then you're bringing back his pre-crisis continuity I don't know if that stuff blends or not
Great video
What do you think about death metal run currently going on
Bro thanks so much
Bet you want do a video on the endless or all aspects of the presence!!!(I know you can, I just wanna see one from you👍)
Ily thank you for this
Always wondered about his power level.
Will you do another OPM video again?
Nice video man. Do a Dr. Fate video in the future please.
Can you make a 1v1 series
How is Surtur in Dc able to kill The Spectre?
He's just that strong
Yeah what the guy over powder The Spectre on this comic is crazy,& didn't add up, just like they make Surttur bite off Spectre head off him that easy didn't make any sense. But it happen in the Dark Multiverse side so its possible that Spectre wasn't as Powerful like the main continuity Spectre.
@@gabrielhughes8221 nah I'm pretty sure these dark multiverse stories spectre are as powerful as the prime earth spectre
And I don't see why ya'll are saying it's inconsistent Surtur literally has like 6 or 8 appearances in comics anyway
So idk why it needs a explanation to why he killed spectre so easily
@@lostgod2247 well we can like it that way. But remember the time when the world Forger trap the main Superman in a Empty void. And we see the other Version of the Corpses boded of Superman . Their didn't last that long there because it stated their wasn't the original a.k.a the main continuity Superman. That goes out to all the main continuity heroes and villains alike.
@@lostgod2247 But yeah the dark Multiverse may be or could be as powerful but their wouldn't be equal as Powerful then the main continuity. That like if you the main original @ Lost God would the other side from another altar universe would be the same as you are more Powerful than you? It could possibly be slas that, but that just an theory. But never 100 % guarantee. That why if you play the game of the injustice. In the storyline the main continuity Superman is stronger than the injustice Superman, and the main continuity Wonder woman is better and stronger than injustice Wonder woman. Well its separated from the continuity storyline in DC. But nevertheless the created and the one who work on the injustice Comics all agree about that. So yeah its more easier to debated about it more to debunked because there no concrete ground to pinpoint it.
you should talk about Ben 10 it would be unique and quite nice to see
Yessss my man
dude i have been waiting for the trigon video for months, when is it coming out
Nice video. How about a marvel cosmology explained video? Also what you think is bigger? Dc or marvel? Which omniverse including everything they showed till now is bigger??
DC is definitely larger
DC is larger
It's good if parrot makes a marvel cosmology explained video then it will be clear as hell
Please do Black Knight he's a very underrated marvel hero the ebony blade is OP and he's going to be in the movie eternals
Good stuff.:)
so composite etrigan is more powerful than lucifer or any other hell lord ever? wow
Wait what no
@@eivor2881 20:30 he kills lucifer and amped belial is stated to be the most powerful being to ever sit on the throne of hell. King Etrigan kills him too. This means king etrigan is the most powerful hell lord ever. Doesn't it?
@@thecomiccosmos6322 it was plot induced
@@eivor2881 well it was a direct statement that he was more powerful than lucifer. I don't think that counts as PIS does it? also it was due to an amp so it wouldn't be an inconsistancy. base etrigan obviously can't do that
@@eivor2881 I think it’s believable since Merlin is extremely powerful, so a boost from him, on top of a boost from the crown of horns (which is an incredibly powerful item on its own) is believable that he is above Lucifer, especially since Etrigan is already much more powerful than he usually is.
How powerful is DC Dr fate Nabu make video over it please
Do you guys have any Vertigo/JLA Dark reading recommendations?
Like good starting points to get into the comic line?
Etrigan's cool for sure, but still awaiting a video on Trigon.
Been a long time since Trigon vs Darkseid, and I fret and yawn.
please do a power scaling video on thor or any of the avengers.
captain america is town level hear is your scale
Nah
Etrigan vs The Presence
Is that a joke or are you serious?
@@geraldcleveland6207 Joke
Etrigan is op
Great video,btw can king Etrigan beat Michael?
No he can't
@@melkor9121 but he literally beat Lucifer who beat Michael
@@Bigsmoke-tn3wf see the video on in-depth look at Lucifer Morningstar he talks about the battle and later on the possible explanation
@@melkor9121 ok in that video he also says that Etrigan is stronger then Lucifer(tho lucifer can beat him with outsmarting him) something Michael doesn't have
@@Bigsmoke-tn3wf later on Lucifer says to Dream Morpheus of the Endless that he does not choose to eliminate them because he is amused by them and he knows he can't be harmed and so goes with the general flow. Webcam parrot addressed it later (in the second one I think)
What’s the difference between Lucifer in DC and Lucifer in vertigo comics? I see both are different in terms of look
Mostly unrelated
@@johnsmjs36 I ask this because fans wank the hell out of this character to outversal which he is not. DC lucifer is multiversal at best. Vertigo version is another level
You realize that if you are separating DC and Vertigo like this that "vertigo" Lucifer would be much much much weaker right? Most of the good cosmology statements are in DC publications. There isn't really any reason to separate them, I went over this in my in-depth Lucifer Morningstar series. I view them as 100% the same character to do otherwise just seems arbitrary to me. What you would even consider "vertigo Lucifer" appeared in several DC publications even when Sandman was still ongoing and his actions in Sandman are referenced in main DC titles.
I will check it out.
@@WebCamParrot why I'm saying this is because they both kinda look different
Hi mate, when people say Trigon has conquered innumerable dimensions. What does the dimension stand for. I heard different answers like
1, dimension is a universe
2, dimension is its own multiverse
And when they say Trigon is pan dimensional. Doesn’t that also insert or even prove why injustice comic is canon.
Well, dimensions sort of mean both. Sometimes they're just one universe, sometimes they're actually multiverses in of themselves.
Can you also address this issue in your video. I checked every website on the internet. Every UA-cam video. No one asks the question about how unprepared Trigon comes to a fight. Whenever people argue, they assume Trigon is already in his peak. But, we don’t know and we won’t be able to see if he was in his peak. Since, he just destroy things.
This is the most important question I have? I saw a comic text where Trigon says he was shaped by the evil and not created. I had the same feeling and remembered you video on pralaya.
@@Numidium_ He was shaped by evil, yeah, becoming (basically) the embodiment of it. Also, there's no reason to assume that Trigon comes unprepared to a fight, since no one's stupid enough to go and try to take him on without there being a reason for it, and if there is a reason, well, Trigon is going to expect people to show up sometime, so they probably won't surprise him. And the fact that he isn't at his peak wouldn't be a problem, since Trigon almost never utilizes his full strength anyways. As for him going to a fight, if he already knows who he's going to fight, he knows how powerful he'll need to be in order to win. If he doesn't know who he's going to fight, he can usually just find it out anyways. So the reason no one really talks about if Trigon would be unprepared for a fight is because he almost never is.
@@pietrocatalano4285 wise answer thanks
Parrot can you make video about superman Resistance magic and milkman man?
I love your page can you do cable
Next
Cthon would probably clap trigon
How strong is Goku from the Dragon Ball Super manga?
Very :)
@@daryl6365 what?
@@daryl6365 weak
Multi universal to low multiversal
MUI is 5th dimensional apparently
Hey parrot can you probably do a video parasite please.
3rd
Do doctor Strange or doctor fate
He don't like dr strange I think
Lucifer seemed underpowered
Seems likely that Lucifer is holding back allowing himself to be beaten. Probably due to amusement by playing by the rules
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You made this very boring and very lame didn't think that was possible with the coolest dc character.