How Ticketmaster is Stealing From Fans and Artists
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- Excerpt from This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #491 | Kid Rock
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I remember the old days when you bought a printed ticket 🎟️ to a concert at the local record store.
When big name concerts were $15-18.
Literally was about to say this!
And camped out. My first concert in 1979 was Kiss. Ticket price:$9.50
@@sburris65 yes. I remember paying $5 to enter a campsite with my car full of beer and buddies.
Camped out the night before and drank all night before a concert.
No one bothered us
We would to go to the back of a JC Pennys to buy our printed tix
This is exactly why I won’t go to a concert. As soon as the tickets go on sale, bots buy them all and then resale them!
I know a person that makes their entire living off of buying and reselling tickets in bulk. He and his wife live in a multi million dollar home in Brentwood, TN and made their entire fortune exploiting fans with ticketmasters help from them turning a blind eye supporting bots and scalpers.
I haven't been to a Ticketmaster or Live Nation show in over a decade. It breaks my heart because there are so many shows i want to see before i die.
This is why I don't go to concerts. Ticketing fees?? They don't even mail a ticket anymore!! It's digital!
Ticketnaster is in the pockets of a LOT of lawmakers.
Make tickets non-transferrable. Best way to get rid of bots and resalers. That way, box office TicketMaster, and the artist themselves can sell tickets for the price they want - TM can sell at a markup for "convenience" or whatever, but people then have options that aren't TM, and the only people buying tickets are the people who actually want to go watch the show. I used to be able to go to 2-3 concerts a year, and now I can't go to any - just no way to justify $500 for 2 hours of entertainment.
I’ve recently bought tickets to a couple shows that were non-transferable.
It’s a great idea until a show that I want to go to is sold out before I can buy my tickets. 😜
This is a terrible idea.
@@allegorx58found a scalper . 😅
Limit the mark up for resale would be better. Either a % or say 1-5 dollars over face value then the profit isn't there to buy them all up
Go back to paper tickets and camp out if its important enough for you. When it's all done online the bots win.
if Mr. Rock decides to take on ticketmaster I would support him.
I don't think ppl would support him for the same reason ppl didn't support Lars for Napster and now look how musicians get paid
Why? For him to bud light back peddle a week later?
Why...the guy is a bs'er.
@@LesGaming511 do you understand the difference between Ticketmaster and Napster? Do you even speak english?
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You can drink it, and not like the way it is advertised.
The reason I don't attend concerts anymore. The fees are ridiculous.
I saw Kid Rock 9 years ago when he was doing $20 tickets and $5 beers. When you bought the ticket you needed to present your credit card at the gate to enter. ALL tickets, front row or lawn, were $20. It seemed revolutionary at the time and it is the only concert I've been to where that seemed to work. Don't know what happened to cause them to only do that ONCE.
Because in the long run he probably barely scratched even
As someone who’s seen both of them live multiple times it’s really good to hear that they care about the fan experience
Theo my boy , asked if monopolies are illegal? My boy.
When you buy tickets names are printed on the ticket and check ids at the venue entrance, that's how you charge $20 tickets and stop scalpers
This is such a bad idea.
@@allegorx58not really. Just like a plane boarding pass.
@@allegorx58 why ya bitch?
Ticketmaster still lives on because of buyer convenience and no competitors. The monopoly conversation has been going on for decades and every time an artist talks about it nothing happens 😂
I wanted to attend the NCAA Frozen Four in Minneapolis. The second day of sales, all tickets were sold. Approximately 6,000 tickets were re-listed as “verified resale” on Ticketmaster. There’s no way that many people are buying and re-selling. Ticketmaster has to be doing this.
I don't think Ticketmaster themselves are doing it, but it has been confirmed through a secretly recorded video (not 100% sure on if it was a secret video or if they just straight out confirmed it) but Ticketmaster had some convention they held for their top scalpers and they let the scalpers and their bots get access to the ticket sales before anyone else so they can buy however many they want and then relist them. That's why even if you have a code to get access to the pre-sale and are one of the first in the queue to get in you'll see large amounts of seats in the best sections already sold out.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r so criminal. 🤦
I've been complaining about Ticketmaster since 1988
Right before they bought Ticketron. Sucks getting old!
@@velvetjones8634 🤣. ✌️❤️💯
The only way to fix it is with an artist boycott.
Online sales should only be available 1 day after the physical tickets from the venue are available. It's pretty obvious they're scamming when they walk to the window and ask for 100 tickets.
PJ already tried this... TM is protected by lawmakers.
Ticketmaster is the reason I just stopped going to concerts. I spot one every now & then & it's like OHHHHH never mind.
Robert Smith and The Cure just showed how nuts down vs Ticketmaster for their MSG run..
what?
There is this old school method its call buying at the door an hour before the show starts that is when tickets go on sale.
Perform at smaller venues with a sit down meal. It's better.
Concerts are basically rituals in arenas these days. Tpain has done some sit down intimate performances recently like that. It works.
for who? artists can't sell their music and you want them to play diners? math not mathing
Yep. Just saw night ranger at a state fair in Upper Michigan. Up close and personal. Way better than nose bleeds in an arena. 20 dollar tickets.
Dude! Ticketmaster literally tried to revoke my tickets to your show in Tampa, thankfully I perform in the Strat center as well and know the staff so I was able to get into the show, but I would’ve been out $400 thanks to Ticketmaster if it weren’t for that fact
Remember when you could go to the box office and just…buy tickets?
You can still do that 😅
We used to stay up all night in front of Ticketron stores to try and get the best seats at face value. On sale at 9am? We'd be there at 6pm, the night before.
Go back to standing in line for tickets at the box office of the venue. Buying concert tickets was a party all by itself back then.
Look into Ticketmaster's "early life"
I was going to buy a few concert tickets for this summer on ticket master for $200 each but the total ended up being almost $700…..HOW?
hilarious he mentions Pearl Jam, not sure if you heard about the ticket prices for their upcoming tour, but it was 666$ to sit on a BAR STOOL in Seattle for Pearl Jam Premium tickets. Not resale, thats face value. PJ has been lost and Ed doesnt give a fuck, he's in bed with TM.
Tickets should go back to buying them at the venue in person.
My wife and I used to try to go to a concert or two every year.
A couple of years ago we looked at getting tickets to see Pearl Jam in Toronto. A single ticket was over $300. We’re never seen them live and badly wanted to but couldn’t justify paying that much.
I like what Kid Rock said. Huge acts with influence in the music business should come together and fight against overpriced tickets.
Going to a concert used to be a much easier financial thing to do.
I miss the days of paper tickets. And for the diehard fan, sleeping out overnight to be the first in line to get the best you seats you could. Then holding on to that bucket like gold until the night of the show.
Good on him. He knows what’s up.
It’s not just Ticketmaster, it’s all of them, then every company tacks absurd amounts of processing fees on top of already overpriced tickets
My brother used to work for Ticketron. I have no idea why Ticketmaster was allowed to buy them? They have been a monopoly ever since.
There have been events that I decided against attending because a $20 ticket turned into $45 after fees.
someone has to do something ! crazy
"Are monopolies illegal?" 😅
The major issue with ticketmaster is that most of the biggest venues such as arenas and stadiums are under livenation/ticket master. So if you are going to a major concert or sporting event you have no choice, but to use them.
So true
Kid Rock is so right. I love this man❤😊
Why isn't anything being done? Because they don't want to do anything about it.
If Kid really didnt care about the money, he could just play at alternate venues and control the ticket process.
They don't give a shit how much we pay. When it comes to money, GREED.
Respect to Kid Rock for speaking out & wanting to stand up to Ticketmaster! I despise Ticketmaster! Thanks Theo & Kid Rock! Sending you love from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦♥️🤘🏼 3:30
Lol he's doing nothing and proving monopolies are ruining us
@@samusfisher Thanks for your opinion & reply! May you walk with Jesus in your heart ♥️🙏🏼 Amen
Thank goooood someone is talking about this bullshit... ticketmaster has to be stopped.. there has to be a limit on what these bots can resell these tickets too.. it's messed up
6 packs of Coke say not for individual sale on them to stop resale. Just bind each ticket to the email that bought it.
greed is greed.... "I'm overpaid but I can't control it....." bullshit
And this is why i dont spend on concerts anymore..even though i miss them..😢
Dang. Good to know. I just resold a ticket I bought from them & im still waiting on my money because this bullshit verification that’s supposed take 5 days or whatever
He just threw dudes under the bus 🚎
We need all new and better rules for new politicians
Lol ofc he could do something. Many artists and comedians like CK do a direct buy in
That's a fly ass shirt
I just brought 2 tickets to Sebastian Maniscalio..tickets $240.."processing fee" $65...for what??? Its on line so I dont get an actual ticket. Thats another $20 to someone on Esty who will make you a mock souvenir ticket since Im a scrapbooker😮
Yep.. google is your friend.. great MSG run..
Maybe if Ticket master made Kid Rocks tickets 🆓, he might get a few people come to his venue?
What I don't understand is why artists don't form a union or organize against this crap.
Only sell tickets at the door. First come first serve. Old school.
Look at what The Cure did. They pulled the fucking curtains back. It was amazing to sit down in the bowl for a reasonable price.
Kid Rock looking for a Ticketmaster kickback. As he did from Budweiser
If a tix is over $50, I protest the event on principal. Just sayin. I got to see shows for $20-30 in the late 90's as a high schooler with MY part-time job money and I thought that was high. Then it slowly started creeping up and it stared with the fees on final purchase and the ticket price soon followed. If there's certain artist that I know would have a show SHOW to the performance then I can understand the bump in price but if 75% of your set is you either standing or sitting with a mic.... and the price is outrageous, nah.
As an artist don't sell tickets through ticketmaster!
Shout out to Eddie Vedder. He was way ahead of the curb
I’ll never be able to afford tickets to see Kid Rock, or anyone for that matter….
If the Lemmings would boycott shows for one entire Summer, Live Nation would cave in real quick. Of course this will never happen because people are so easy to control.
Pearljam tried in the 90s and it was pointless. They faught for most of the decade and i remember not being able to see them at all. They tried selling their own tickets and you could never find them. On line was not what it is now. It sucked
Google or Apple should make their own similar marketplace to their hotel bookings, etc
In Hawaii we buy tickets and your name is on a list as you enter, I couldn’t resell or scalp if I wanted to.
AXS is about the only alternative and their fees are just as bad.
Doesn’t Ticketmaster own them?
@@androo357 No sir, AXS is owned by Anschutz Entertainment Group and Ticketmaster is owned by Live Nation.
Kid Rock is a good dude because he’s not overpaid. Those songs were very good. I am an 🇺🇸
Pearl Jam pretended to care about this issue. I hope he follows through.
Let me get this right….
Kid Rock can’t put on a concert for his fans without Ticket Master being involved?
He can’t rent a field somewhere and put on any show without Ticket Master giving him…. a free citizen of the U S of A…..the green light?
OK
What are the fees for its as if were penalized for buying what they offer i love small shows. This market is out of control 400 bucks for a show is crazy the nfl is cheaper
Is this like Bud Light. He will shoot up some tickets and a few months later tell us how we should support Ticket master?
More conversation on this please guys…. It’s completely ridiculous
I still have a $9.99 Ticket stub to see Megadeth in 2000
Casino + comedy club venues are way more affordable in terms of ticket fees. I had to pass on Felipe Esparza + Theo bc ticket master is TMM. Bought George Lopez tix and the fees were only $16 for 2 tix. Ticket Master is notoriously overcharging for ticket fees. If the venue utilizes ticket master, I Pass . Those fees are outrageous on ticket Master
Im betting Curtis Cheng has something to do with this
Can’t they just have a contractual agreement upon purchase stating that you cannot resell. Seems pretty straightforward. Have a pop up window show and state this before letting someone purchase , they’re either going to the concert or stuck with the ticket
Oliver Anthony did it. All his tickets are $25
Just bought a ticket for $63.00 ended up costing $95.00 after all the @#$##$%#! fees. and I'm tired of 100+ dollar shows
I love how the only topic hes legitimately educated about he just happens to lean left on yet claims he’s generally right leaning 😅😅🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
Artists need to somehow back a new medium for ticketing. Push ticketmaster out. There has to be a way.
They own the venues also
I thought that was Billy Ray
Cant each artist just create their own site for their shows at a lower cost?
nobody says their over paid. ever.
I absolutely hate how someone with no talent, or no music experience can make money on buying and selling
Tickets. There’s gotta be a way to do it. But Ticketmaster is bullshit.
Make non transferable tickets and limit how many each person can buy
Bad Friends Live Niagara Falls
Back Row, on the floor. $260…..
Monopolies were illegal.
I tried getting calling me cause I accidentally bought 2 tickets and the guy on their customer service was tryna have me put money on a gift card
Wow a rich guy that got rich by people who helped him get rich is biting the hand that fed him....crazy
I miss real tickets.
This never explains how
Only sell tickets at the event 🤷♀️
How Kid Rock became a sellout
Ticketmaster sells all the time on stubhib and let's the market dictate the price, crooks
letting the market dictate the price isn’t what makes anyone a crook lol
Algorithm algorithm algorithm
Music will go the route of gaming and die. Nickel and diming can only go so far..
Blockchain is the answer.
This is the ONLY time I’ll support kid rock lol the artists cant do anything. If they lower the ticket prices it just makes everyone else MORE.
“ what the market will bear “ … SOOO , DONT BUY THEM … problem solved .