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- Can we lose our salvation? We’ll explore two interpretations-one suggesting the passage refers to unbelievers exposed to biblical truth but not fully committed to faith in Jesus Christ, and another proposing a hypothetical scenario about true believers and the impossibility of them falling away. We’ll discuss key phrases like “enlightened,” “tasted the heavenly gift,” and “shared in the Holy Spirit,” and what they mean in different contexts. This video is essential for anyone interested in Christian doctrine, the security of eternal salvation, and deeper scripture meanings. Don’t miss this enlightening discussion that reaffirms the everlasting nature of our salvation in Christ. Click play to strengthen your understanding of the Christian faith.
In this video, pastor nelson answers your question: Does Hebrews 6:4-6 mean we can lose our salvation?
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PHILLIPIANS 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that HE(HOLYGHOST) who has begun a good work IN YOU, will perform it(continue doing it) until the day of JESUS CHRIST.(return)
Keep HIM and HE Will Keep You till the end!!!
God promised to give us eternal life not temporal❤️
God always keeps His promise but the argument always lacks our responsibility to Him and obedience to His Word.
Faith without works is dead.
Remember this was originally written to Jewish converts. The warning is that if one leaves the faith and returns to Judaism there is no more sacrifice for them and they my beyond repentance at some point. One cannot randomly "lose" their salvation, but apostasy is possible. The point here is to persevere in the faith.
If that were the case, does it mean apostasy can't be forgiven?
@@olaniyansamuel3999 Apostasy means you've completely rejected and left the faith. God's not going to drag anyone to heaven kicking and screaming.
Who perseveres? The saved!! Who are apostate’s? Those who are Christian’s in name only. In other words they were never saved!
@e.m.8094 men don't choose GOD...GOD CHOOSES men. No man is ABLE to come to the FATHER unless HE first draws us. Our nature is bound until CHRIST first sets us free. There's no "dragging and kicking " going on...CHRIST gives us a new heart...everyone saved is eternally grateful
@e.m.8094 If someone who left the faith comes back, won't they be accepted? That would go against Hebs 6 that was just exegeted
If you could loose your Salvation , we All would have Lost it a long time ago...
Can you prove that?
You cannot lose your salvation-but you can think you’re saved when you’re not. The people referenced in Hebrews are not “unbelievers”, but they are not born-again. To be born-again is a much bigger deal than many people think, and dare I say that MOST Christians are operating in a lukewarm/ungenerated state, and are on their way to eternal damnation.
If you want to go to heaven, you must go ALL IN. Not merely trusting THAT Jesus died for your sins, but trusting IN HIM as the one who died for your sins. This is not about mere intellectual belief, this is about truly entering into a holy/eternal/supernatural covenant.
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False.
@@Mr.C-Mister
I saw your comment about the 10 virgins. What you are missing is that they all had oil in their lamps, BUT only 5 had VESSELS of oil.
In the parable of the sower, soil 1 believers likely had no oil, soil 2 and 3 believers had some measure of oil in their lamps, but soil 4 believers have a vessel of oil.
Lukewarm Christians will be spewed out. Lukewarm does not imply NO HEAT, it implies not enough heat; lukewarm believers also have some oil in their lamps, but no vessel of oil. We are fundamentally talking about DEGREE here.
Like I said originally, to be saved you must go ALL IN, and once you do that, you are forever changed, you are “born again”, made into a “New Creature”, “sealed unto the day of redemption” “bought with a price”, etc. But like I said originally, most Christians are operating in a lukewarm, slightly-oiled, soil 2-3 type of existence; i.e. they are not outright frauds, but they are not born-again. They are, in a sense, like King Saul and the prophet Balaam from the Old Testament. It’s one thing to have an encounter with the Holy Spirit and receive some oil, it’s another thing altogether to be born-again and sealed into an eternal covenant with a vessel of oil.
@@douglaspinsak1246is born again a feeling?
@@douglaspinsak1246 to be born again is to be baptized. It's the entry into the new covenant, the start of salvation but not the end.
@@thecrayoncop
There is a feeling associated with it, but what we are talking about is much more than a feeling; it is a Spiritual reality. The simplest way I can condense it is to say: you must lay down your old life on the altar, and receive the New Life.
I was a lukewarm hell-bound Christian for 7 years before God backed me into a corner in February of 2020 consisting of “choose ye now whom ye shall serve”. I gave Jesus my whole life and that is when I was eternally changed, sealed, born-again, redeemed etc. I had heard those phrases for 7 years as a Christian, but it was not until I went ALL-IN that they materialized and became applicable to ME.
To be born-again is no small thing; once you opt into this eternal covenant, you will never be the same, and there is no going back. “Once saved always saved” is true like this video professes; but most Christians have not crossed over the Threshold of true born-again salvation.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
His grace and mercy be upon you all and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
committed intellectually and not spiritually, thats a lot of us and i wonder that about myself
There's a great book called "How Can I Be Sure I'm a Christian" by Donald S. Whitney. It's is a very good book.
Yes it does. Romans 11:22 explains it even better
You’re not reading that passage, chapter and discourse of that whole book in a hermeneutically consistent way if you come to that conclusion.
Also, to cherry pick a few verses out of context negates the holistic theme of salvation; Gods grace, man’s faith. Anything else is works based and antithetical to the totality of Scripture.
I’m glad my salvation is not dependent upon my fickle, waning, daily choices… that would make me have mental health issues. I’m grateful to an immutable God that places the work of salvation solely on the work of His Son on the cross.
@@SS-lz6cb1st John 1:9 gets us Back into Fellowship with God the Holy Spirit... When We Sin , we suffer loss of Fellowship , Not the Indwelling... The Free Gift of Salvation is Irrevocable...
@@edwardtelles1956no it's not. Jesus took away sins. He's a life giving Spirit (1Corinthians 15:45). As the last Adam, He restored our relationship with God. Which means as born again Christians in Christ, we can walk with God through Jesus Christ. Instead of being accursed because of our inherited sinful fallen nature, we become blessed and able to receive all the promises of God.
The first Adam was God's perfect creation. He walked with God until he sinned against God and fell from grace. Becoming accursed for all generations. We are born into that curse. Separated from God. What the first Adam destroyed through sin, the last Adam restored through His sacrifice.
If we sin, we repent and confess our sins before the Lord with humility. Our merciful Lord will forgive us and cleanses us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). That doesn't mean at all loss of salvation. Damning us all to hell as sinners. It means forgiveness and restoration. The role of the Holy Spirit is to convict us of sin (John 16:8) and lead us to repentance. We don't lose salvation because we sinned against God. The Holy Spirit is the guarantee of our inheritance. He is given to us by Jesus Christ at salvation and sealed within us til the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:14). Guaranteed means just as it is written. That's how we who are born of water become born again of water and Spirit (John 3:5). So we as children of God can enter the kingdom of God. Sin may separate us from God, but we have an advocate with the Father. Jesus Christ our Lord who restores us unto His righteousness and perfection (1 John 2:1).
Like I know what you said and agree w it
Just not sure how you got that from OP comment and my reply 🤷♂️
I think that the best way to interpret that passage is by not stopping at the 6th verse but continuing with verses 7 and 8. The soil bearing thorns will give thorns as a result upon nurturing. So it is to show that those people that bear bad fruit (constantly reject Christ) after fully understanding His truth have no chance of being renewed by the Spirit.
God bless!
Luke 13:23 Then one said to Him .Lord, are there few who are saved ? And He said to them, Strive to enter through the narrow gate , for many ,I say to you ,will seek to enter and will not be able. Read the book of Acts it will lead you to salvation.
Please pray for my daughter, son in law and lost souls 🙏 😔
May the Lord shine His light and love abroad in their hearts, in the name of Jesus Christ. Lord, raise them up and breathe on them, God, Amen
What does this mean in regards to someone like me who is struggling with a horrible porn addiction since childhood, where even before I found Christ I'm just neck deep in it with no care, and now that im so tired of it and want to turn and give my heart to Christ, I'm still struggling with it, every single week, asking for forgiveness and for deliverance, yet the moment the disgusting temptation pops up every single day again, and again, and again, and again, I keep falling for it and are so weak to it because thats all I ever knew, thats all my flesh ever knew. Scripture says that when you have faith in Jesus Christ and put your trust in Him that He died for your sins, that His blood is enough. I do believe that. I just..don't understand why I still struggle with this disgusting addiction when other believers who may have had similar problems have been totally set free unless they weren't being honest in their testimonies.
I just..I want to be done with this disgusting thing once and for all and just not grieve the Holy Spirit anymore. I don't want to grieve God anymore and feel like a total hypocrite and a liar, some charlatan that's playing around. I hate this sin so much..yet I still go back to it when temptation happens or a bad thought happens just because im used to it, and I hate it. I hate what I do yet I still indulge, why????? why can't I just STOP..
i know its because of my sinful nature/flesh that I'm still in until Christ comes back..but..damn man..I don't wanna do it anymore...I've shed so many tears, and constantly been so wishy washy and I don't want my heart, my faith in Jesus to be like that anymore. I want it to be steadfast and on fire for Him, not wondering "dang did I lose my salvation, was I ever saved, am I just a false convert" I don't wanna keep doing that every single day..
With how many times I stumble, fall, and fail, the question always comes into my mind "am I false convert, am I a liar, am I just ...a fake.." and thats probably the Devil trying to get me to quit. I won't quit..I just..hate what I do..I hate this sin..and I hate my flesh so damn much..I know I can't beat porn by myself, I know I can't do it without God. I know that without God I can do nothing. Without Jesus, I can't do ANYTHING. Yet when the time comes and im tempted again I just fold so easy and I really hate it so much..I feel horrible and ashamed that I didn't flee or run..I...egh..
All I can offer is two things... first and most important PRAYER on your behalf. Second is, I too have struggled, and still do struggle with sexual sin/drugs. Looking at myself after claiming and seeking the Lord for over 30 years, this is what I believe... I am closer to being Christ-like today than I was 30+ years ago. THAT is a blessing to me.
Do I still sin from time to time? YES, I still sin, but thankfully, Jesus STILL loves me and I can see my love for Him by fighting to the best of MY ability EVERYDAY. Many days I win, many days I fail, BUT... and this is my point, I never stop fighting, and never stop running to Him in repentance.
One last thing to share... both my brother and I struggled with cocaine addiction. After overdosing on my birthday I just walked away and never did drugs again. Eight years later I found myself standing in the church doors.
My brother on the other hands continued in drugs for years afterwards. Thankfully he too found his way into a church, but continued to struggle with addiction for a few years.... We both came to Christ and faithfully seek Him for His strength, grace, mercy, and FORGIVENESS.
Here's my point, I was free from drugs but not sexual sins, he was free from sexual sins but not drugs.... (drum-roll please) NEITHER OF US are any better or worse than others who sin in their unique ways. A "liar/gossiper/drunkard/obese/pridefulness/etc." ALL OF US still need a Savior on a daily basis because everyday everyone of us fails to be perfect.
Again, trust that the Lord will walk with you every step of the way... even on the days you crawl through your sinful behaviors. I am doing a better job at following and reflecting Him today than I did 30 years ago.... THAT is what counts. Getting back up and walk some more... Look at how many times Peter failed in just a couple of examples the bible shares regarding Peter, and then consider the others.
Many read the bible and don't take into account it's a small piece here and a small piece there from a much, much, MUCH longer story-line of the person's life. They all spent their lives growing in Christ-likeness and we need to do the same... everyday was a challenge for them as well as for us.
I think you should go to fasting
Usually we are not allowed to direct link in the comment sections of videos, so you need to search for the video instead. "The Reason You Need To Leave Egypt" by Jonathan Cahn, even though the title doesn't sound correct, he talks exactly about how to stop sinning.
This is so interesting, I think a 3rd interpretation could be of the Jews because they saw Jesus, they saw the power of the Holy Spirit, they knew of the promise of the Messiah but still rejected Him like Judas Iscariot and the Pharisees who studied the scriptures and knew them very well. By them rejecting Jesus mean there is no other olive branch from heaven, Jesus is the perfect sacrifice. They came close to the fullness of their faith, they knew He was coming but rejected Him when He was there presently with them. Amen blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord
To visualize this verse, we should think of Judas Iscariot. Who tasted the light of Truth, but was never changed by it. He fell away and betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Which was more valuable to him than the life saving grace Jesus offered. Instead of repenting and asking for forgiveness, Judas hung himself (Matthew 27:3-5).
Everyone gets this one wrong because they assume that if someone professes faith then they must be save. The set up for this is back in chapters 3 and 4 using the Mosaic Jews, who saw the miracles, heard the truth, professed faith, but their knowledge was not united with faith (according to God’s judgement of the heart) and they still had wicked hearts of unbelief. THEY WERE NEVER SAVED DESPITE THEIR PROFESSION. God does not judge the external but the heart.
Amen! It Is Written! KJV - 1 John 2 : 19 “They Went Out From US, But They Were Not Of US;
For If They Had Been Of Us, They Would No Doubt Have Continued With US:
But They Went Out, That They Might Be Made Manifest That They Were Not All Of US.
Remember the Bible says "Not by works". If your works cannot save you, your works cannot unsave you either. According to God's word.
Not only is that NOT according to God's word, it's directly disputed by God's word. We are told to WORK out our salvation with fear and trembling.
[Phl 2:12-13 NASB95] 12
So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for [His] good pleasure.
Jesus warns us of persecution to come, we will be hated by all on account of His name. But don't fear men who can only kill the body, fear the one who can destroy both body and soul in the lake of fire. If we Deny Christ He will deny Us
[Mat 10:32-33 NASB95]
32 "Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. 33 "But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
Jesus, Himself, warns OVER AND OVER, that it's the one who perseveres or overcomes to the end will be saved.
[Mat 24:12-13 NASB95]
12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. 13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
[Rev 2:7 NASB95]
7 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.'
[Rev 2:10-11 NASB95]
10 'Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'
[Rev 3:5 NASB95]
5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
[Luk 6:46-49 NASB95]
46 "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? 47 "Everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and acts on them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. 49 "But the one who has heard and has not acted [accordingly,] is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great."
1 John 5 and romans 11 disagree with you.
No they dont@@WC3isBetterThanReforged
Exactly. You are saved by faith, and you can be no longer saved by revoking and forsaking your faith.
Correct but just as we have to choose to believe one can also choose not to believe. It is possible to lose one's salvation this is why the Bible warns about it but it is by faith so as long as one keeps trusting in Christ they are secure. Howevevr if one becomes hardened through sin and forsakes their faith they will not be saved.
2 Peter 1:3-11 and Jude 1:5.
"Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe."
1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
Dan 7 ...
Daniel prophecied that their would be one who would attempt to change God's laws and His festival times.
Catholicism & Christianity
Have both in various ways fulfilled this prophecy with manmade holy days and traditions that were never handed down from Jesus or any of the apostles!
If you could lose your salvation you would. If you’re saved then it’s a done deal. A proper understanding of Scripture overwhelmingly confirms this. Jesus DID IT ALL. He doesn’t need your “help”.
Gymnastics aside, please explain 1 Timothy 4:1
I’d also like to add 1 John 1:6-9 and 1 John 3:24 with 1 Timothy 4:1 which sound like salvation has conditions to where a person can become lost again. I believe the person would be intentional in abandoning their faith. I don’t believe that a person goes back and forth as they sin and confess or that a person loses their salvation without being aware. I think the ‘Sinner’s Prayer’ has made more people lost than saved because many people will think, ‘well I said that prayer once when I was a kid so I’m good to live how I want because I’m saved’, because I used to be one of those people who thought that way. I like much of the content this UA-cam channel and website put out but some thing’s I am not convinced in their interpretation. Hopefully I didn’t take any of these verses out of context 😬
Depart from the faith is a general term not a salvation/saved term. Just like not all Jews/Israelites are saved or going to heaven just because they are genetic inheritors of Gods promise to Abraham. The world is full of Christian/Christian-type belief systems that would be a depiction or corollary of 'the faith". Percentages vary on what amount of people in a well-established in doctrine church are actual believers/saved since the church first started. This is why Jesus talked about being aware of false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing and saying "by their fruit you will know them". Briefly: they leave their habitual norms (not salvation) for stuff that suits their flights of fancy or is more appealing (wanting to have their ears tickled). Like the prosperity gospel or sensational healings/miracles, etc. (an evil generation seeks signs and wonders).
@@f311erI don’t understand what those verses have to do with the topic at hand. Nowhere do either of those passages actually even mention losing your salvation. Did you reference the wrong verses? I understand why someone would ask about 1 Tim. 4:1, but not those verses in 1 John.
That’s a good question. And I’ve never really thought about that verse from the perspective of getting unsaved (mainly because it doesn’t actually say that). But it’s an interesting question about apostasy. Does changing your mind about “the faith” equate to changing your mind about Jesus? And does that cause you to get unsaved? I personally know someone who used to believe that Jesus was the Savior and was trusting in Him for his salvation. After reading a book by Bart Ehrman, he now does not believe that Jesus even existed, and certainly is not trusting in Him for salvation. Was he saved, and then lost his salvation? Or was he never saved in the first place? Or is he still saved, but doesn’t know it? I’m not sure the NT really answers any of these questions in great detail. It seems that there are verses and passages on both sides of this debate.
@@toddstevens9667 That is what I believe people have been debating for quite awhile, and it is true there are questions. I have doubts about the "insurance policy" claim to salvation, mostly because it goes against the call to persevere. Maybe there needs to be a clearer understanding of what falling away from the Faith means.
Amen thank you Jesus
It is simple.
First, the audience is believers.
Second, the Word quotes those who partook with the Holy Ghost and falls away. These are believers who walked away from the truth.
Romans 11:17-22
2 Peter 2:20-22
2 Thessalonians 2:3,10
Revelation 3:14-20 quotes of those whom Jesus "spew from His body". He calls back to repentance but there is NO PROMISE they do return.
You can give up your salvation. Hebrews 10:29 quotes those who came to the "knowledge of the truth" yet sins willfully.
2 Peter 2:20-22 quotes those returning to the viles of the world. Doing this puts Christ to open shame again.
Once you give it up, it's gone. You can never regain it.
Once saved, always saved is deceptive doctrine to puts many Christians in a lull of security.
Congratulations for clear explanation.
If someone recants Jesus, they are not saved and will not go to heaven because God will not force a relationship on them. John 17:3 explains that salvation is KNOWING JESUS, not having said a "sinners prayer." The Bible says that people can have their names blotted out of the Book of Life, meaning they can lose their destiny of salvation
Now in regards to Hebrews 6 I am not so sure if this demonstrates that salvation can be lost. However there are other areas that do show salvation can be revoked. But before finding scriptures or sections that seem to show salvation can be lost, it is important to consider the concept of OSAS and its' implications.
When you assert that once a person receives salvation and that they can never lose it, you are implying then there is no action a believer can commit or fail to accomplish that will cause salvation to be revoked. If this is the case, then if there is even ONE verse or section of scripture that shows a believer can have their salvation revoked, then it cannot be the case OSAS is true. Additionally, it is important to consider and define what is SALVATION? What are the characteristics/properties that must be present and/or absent that warrants a person to be saved? One essential requirement of salvation is forgiveness. If forgiveness is not present towards a person from God, then that person is not saved. So forgiveness must be present. If God doesn't forgive someone, then that person cannot be saved. Matthew 18:21-35 is an example of forgiveness being applied to believers, however if a believer fails to forgive, after being forgiven of their debts, then their forgiveness that was originally given is now revoked, and they must pay for it. We can confirm that "servant" in this section is applied to believers, and Jesus was speaking to the disciples.
Furthermore, additional actions that seem to forfeit salvation can be found in Matthew 24:44-51. We see again another example of salvation revoked. Again the disciples are being spoken to about "who is a wise and faithful servant?" We see here that the wicked servant who began to get drunk and beat other servants was discovered at an hour he did not expect the Master to return. Because of which, he was cut into pieces and put in the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth. Thus that is hell.
Additionally, Luke 12:40-46 is another example of that story where even Peter asks if that applies to the disciples or everyone. Here Christ mentions that same wicked servant being placed with the unbelievers. So this implies the servant must be a believer. So therefore we can confirm that servants of the Master are believers, and believers that fail to forgive will not be forgiven or if they do works of the flesh such being a drunkard and hating and beating others, they have their place with unbelievers which is the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth, thus hell. Therefore, it is not the case that OSAS is true.
In addition, Romans 11:17-24 is another definitive example that even unbelief can have someone removed. If there is unbelief afterwards, you can be removed and those who do not abide are to be gathered like branches and thrown into the fire. Thus how can one be grafted in, and their own unbelief can be an action that has them removed? If that is the case, then again OSAS is false. Now this does not mean that a single action of unbelief or sin immediately has someone removed but rather God's desire is for you to turn from it. We know this due to the Parable of the Barren Fig Tree in Luke 13. We see here after some time, there was a decision to cut down the tree but the vine-dresser intercedes in hopes to cultivate the tree into becoming the potential tree that the Master seeks it to be. In the same way God doesn't immediately desire to see us remove but hopes we remain in him. But as the previous parables and examples had mentioned, the Master will come at an hour we do not expect, thus we aren't to take things lightly nor continue in sin. Tear out the eye and cut off the hand while there is still a chance. Do away with hate and works of the flesh. Forgive so that your Father may forgive you.
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In 1 Corinthians 5, it talks about a guy who is "knowing" his father's wife. idk if his father is still alive or not, we are not told.
Regardless, this guy, doing this nasty thing, is still actually saved.
The people are told to 'deliver him to satan, for the destruction of his flesh', but says that he is still saved:
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?- 1 Corinthians 5:1-6
I hope one day to believe - really believe - that OSAS is correct.
The above passage is the only one I've ever come across that makes me think it is the case. You may get your life here cut short, but... seems like you do not lose your salvation.
Hang tough.
Great explanation!!!
There is a third interpretation: The book of Hebrews is directed to the Hebrews (Jews) and it is about those Jews who have been convicted and enlightened of the truth about Jesus Christ but have returned to living by the Law ( The Ten Commandments) and obedience to it to obtain righteousness.Again, Keep in mind that this book is written to the Jews, not the Gentiles.
Is being filled with the spirit a feeling or experience? Must you feel or experience it to know it’s there?
thank you very much brother. God bless you
In Matthew 18, Jesus talks about how to handle someone who will not repent, and Paul talks to Timothy about handing a couple of men over to Satan to, ironically, be taught not to blasphemy. What if this passage is only about what can be done through humans. Do we not all know people, even believers, who, no matter what is said to them, will not turn away from their sin? But nothing is impossible with God, so we ask God to take care of such people Himself.
It says they shared in the holy spirit though. Wouldn’t that mean they were saved? I believe in eternal salvation but this is confusing.
Very good point.
Hebrews 6:4-6 is a parallel and deeper explanation to Matthew 12:30-32. And Hebrews is a book written to mainly converted Priests or Jews who were very familiar with Judaism but has been persecuted and pressured to leave the faith. More specifically, the author talks to them about their experience in the Holy Spirit and the joy of their salvation when he came them with the Gospels.
Exactly. Interpreting this as being an unbeliever who was never saved in the first place is just eisegetical mental gymnastics to try to force the text to support OSAS, instead of letting God's Word speak for itself.
Agreed, i think hewas trying to respond to multiple perspectives , made it a little muddy
Yes. That is why it's best read as stating if it were possible for a believer to fall away, they could not be brought back to repentance, seeing that Christ died once and will not die for our sins again and again, his one time sacrifice purifies us once and for all if we believe in him.
Real Christians hate their sin and love Jesus. There are different levels of faith, but an alive faith is enough, even if it’s small!
So you are saved until you realize you never were????
Thanks for the teaching. The structure is Very clear. Actually I watched Andrew Wommack’s Hebrew series very recently in this topic. Different view.
I personally think this is a myth. We don’t know whom God chose to save. Meanwhile, human has the ability to deliberately reject the salvation, no matter NonChristian, Christian, or Jews. Our lesson, or all we can do here after reading this scripture, is to stand on our faith till end.
In summary, it is not our job to say who got the eternal salvation, who is not. You can hold whatever theology on Salvation, but every Theologian agrees that believers need to hold their faith in Christ.
Do you know that Wommack teaches many heretical things?
@@bjornegan6421 I don’t agree 100% with him; and I don’t want to defend him. But can you show me an example what makes you think he is wrong?
@@amazdrm i'm grateful to see your reply. he is a 'word of faith' 'health and wealth' 'prosperity gospel' teacher. he teaches that being physically sick is something Christ died to save us from and that if we are sick it's because we don't have faith. that's a very light over view. here is only one example of the things he teaches. others claim he is outright heretical on many topics, but i don't give time to listening to him. video titled: "You Got Sickness Because You Thought- False Teaching of Andrew Wommack Exposed by Justin Peters"
Once saved always saved. Be reborn and you are saved. Amen.
@@dank2476 so all you have to do is be baptized to be saved? Thats just the start of the process of salvation.
Read 1 Peter 2:3-11 and Jude 1:5. In summary, learn from the Hebrews of Exodus who here DELIVERED from Egypt yet still returned to their sinful ways. And there's also 1 Timothy 4:1. It is a parallel to Salvation. Any Believer that is still unfruitful and unfaithful will still be judged and condemned.
@@knightayos5323 1John,3:9-10 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
The question should be..Were You really Saved..Or was it a Conversion from the Teeth Out..If Saved, The Holy Spirit will Chastise GOD'S Children..
Hebrews 6:26-29 is the verse that says we can lose our salvation. Why didn’t you keep going, and cover that??
“‘Once enlightened’ means ‘Some level of instruction in biblical truth.’”
YES BY AUDACITY.
1 John 2
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
1 John 5
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
I have a question. You skipped the part of verse 4 that mentions that these people were partakers of the Holy Spirit. That word in the Greek for partakers means one who participates in/ a partner. A person who never truly knows Yeshua as Lord and Savior and who was not regenerate, has NOT been a partner, a partaker with the Holy Spirit! So, this verse is speaking about someone who was in partnership with Holy Spirit and then walks away! They don’t lose their salvation, they choose the world again over the Lord and go back to it over Him! There are too many warnings against turning back to the world, to ignore them in the Word! People want the assurance of salvation, but not the commitment to walk it out and let go of the world to obtain it!
I want to get this straight. So if someone is an atheist or goes to another religion and they walk out of Christianity they have no hope of salvation. Also someone who is near the truth, but doesn’t convert. While likewise have no hope of salvation. What happened to gods boundless mercy.
Repent or you will die in your sins. Pretty simple.
Anyone who repents and accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior CAN be saved, regardless of their past. Hence the BOUNDLESS mercy. In such a case the justice due to that person was taken on by Christ.
But those who reject Christ or turn away from Him after being saved, will be judged. God is merciful as evidenced by His sacrifice on the Cross to save us WHILE we were still sinners. Christ was willing to pay the justice due to them, but if THAT is rejected, then they die in their sins and will have to pay the penalty themselves.
Mercy without Justice is evil.
Look what's going on in the world today, where they keep letting criminals run free to continue to commit horrific crimes on the innocent.
@@trashman00 Not really. God has a one-strike policy with the gospel. Repent immediately when convicted by the Holy Spirit. If you choose to research instead, you forfeit your chance. Also if you leave Christianity and want to come back you can’t.
@@cryptojihadi265 what I’ve heard if you leave Christianity for any reason at all, and want to come back you can’t. The only you have to look forward to is a fearful expectation of judgement. Not really merciful.
@@Fivepointlove
Where did you hear that?
Faith is not a work, if it weren’t for the precious blood of Christ faith would be utterly fruitless.
Read the letter of Hebrews yourself. It is not that difficult. Understand the context of the whole letter. Why was Hebrews written? What was the writer intention in his warnings. Do not focus on verses and having complicated reasoning. You will know it yourself. It is quite plain.
No. It means you can't be saved twice! So we can deduce the payment is good enough the 1st time!!
I would appreciate Got Questions doing maybe several videos on the topic of GOSSIP. It needs to be clarified in these times what it is or isn't etc... Thank You.
You make a case for only two interpretations. There is a third. Take it at face value in its context. There are way too many other scriptures that teach that believers can turn away after being genuinely saved to claim that your presentation is the final word on the subject.
A thought. The Bible teaches that nothing can forcibly remove you from Christ’s hand but it also teaches that we can willfully walk away. Both are true because the Bible says so. Our job is to reconcile our mind and what we believe to those two truths, not to try to explain away one truth so that the one we prefer stands taller than the other. God’s word doesn’t need our help to be understood. It only needs us to believe it at face value.
@gotquestions, are you calvinists?
The name of the book says it all! This book is written to the Hebrews, Jews, not Christians. In Acts 3:19, Peter explains to the Jewish believers that their salvation comes when they are resurrected into the promised kingdom, the presence of the Lord. They must not fall away because it is impossible for them to be renewed. Rightly dividing what John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 11 taught Israel is different from what the risen Jesus Christ gave our apostle, Paul, to teach to the gentiles. Take a look at Ephesians chapters 1,2 & 3 and try to find any of that in John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 11's teaching to the Jews. They're different. Paul was given a mystery (Eph 3:9) that was hidden since before the foundation of the earth. Peter's teaching was spoken by the prophets since the world began. (Acts 3:21)
Intellectually persuaded but not spiritually committed… wow. The verse says they shared in the Holy Spirit! What unbeliever shares in the Holy Spirit? You can dance around tasted the heavenly gift but shared in the Holy Spirit is pretty concrete.
But what amazes me about Calvinism is that you believe that you cannot lose your salvation, yet this is not demonstrated even once in the entire Bible. You believe that you cannot fall away yet God allowed an entire generation to die off before he allowed the children of Israel, to enter the promise, because of their unbelief. Can you imagine how some of them were thinking? Because God did this miracle, he’s going to bring me in no matter what.
Even Saul(not Paul) had an opportunity to have his kingdom establish forever. His disobedience had him cut off. Saul son Jonathan missed the will of God. He was supposed to reign in with David. But he had divided loyalty yo his father, it cost him.
To think as a believer that you cannot be deceived, is deception within itself. To think that the individual who caused 1/3 of the angels to fall, cannot deceive you? And please don’t think for a second this doctrine isn’t enticing to your flesh. Don’t think for a second that this doctrine won’t allow more loose, living in the body. How many times did Jesus say do not be deceived? Think about the amount of the New Testament that is actually warnings to believers. We have to wake up. Because we are being rocked to sleep.
If you can lose your salvation you already would. How can you be born again and then god is going to unborn you again when you are disobedient? That’s just sounds stupid. He’s our father in heaven, he said I will never leave you not forsake you!
"The Greek scholars behind the KJV (and Tyndale, and the Geneva, etc.) don't know what this Greek word means (or can possibly mean).
Source: My preferred Greek scholars."
Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Amen, The Lord replies," I NEVER KNEW YOU. Does that sound like nonbelievers? Stop listening to people and seek the truth through HIS word. In Revelation when he writes to the churches(believers) HE continuously says to him that overcomes. Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my father, and before his angels Amen. Why mention the ability to blot out your name if it's not possible, and he said HE will not if you OVERCOME. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling Amen. Phil 2:12
You cant lose your salvation. As God is the one who started it to begin with. And his gifts are irrevocable.
And yet Romans 11 is a treatise about losing salvation written to believers whose faith is famous throughout the whole world
Salvation is not a place on earth.
If you lose your faith, you lose salvation. You are not saved if you dissed Christ.
You can't loose salvation. If you believe you can loose your salvation then you consider Christ's death insufficient which is blasphemous
@@bss7254 so i enjoy every sin of galations 5:19-21 without any bearing on my salvation?
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged So now you are claiming that as a saved believer we will enjoy sin? Is that what you think the blood of Jesus makes a follower feel? Are you telling me God isn't powerful enough to change the heart and desires of a person?
You have a lot to learn man.
If you claim you can loose your salvation PERIOD you are claiming Jesus Christ isn't enough and that he died in vein.
@@bss7254 sorry. The original comment should have said "so can i enjoy every sin of galations 5:19-21 without any bearing on my salvation?" That's my question to you. Not will i or should i, but can i?
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged The reverse question would be if that's possible? Will a true born again believer enjoy sin ?
Imagine believing in loss of salvation, how would you even know if you were in a saved or condemned state at any given time?? God does NOT leave us without assurance of our security, this is not Islam!
How would you know if you were saved? Maintain faith, get baptised, confess your known mortal sins for absolution.
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged Yes, and once we are saved, we are always saved. This isn't elevator Christianity where we are saved one day, lost the next, redeemed the following day, up and down and up and down.
You can choose to not want to be with God at anytime.... that's how you lose it.
Hebrews is called Hebrews for a reason it's the letter to the Hebrews not to the body of Christ you are saved by grace there is nothing you can do to earn or lose your salvation it is a gift from God by the way the Book of James is not written to you either if you look at James 1:1 it tells you exactly who the letter is written to we should stop stealing other people's mail
@@wloenterprises the audience at the time of its writing might have been hebrew christians but when it was canonized by the Catholic church in 382, it was deemed binding on all believers. The message of Hwbrews 6 applies to you and me too.
Bear in mind the strong implication that we can lose our salvation given in Revelation ch 3 v 5 - Jesus was talking about those who are already saved:
‘Those who overcome….and I will not blot out their names out of the book of the living.’
Also, there is the same implication at the end of verses 19 and 21 in Ezekiel ch 3 verses 16-21; and in 1 Timothy ch 4 verses 13-16 (16).
This was a great explaination, but i don't think we should interpret this passeage in this way.
This is my explaination and it's very easy.
1st, these were christians that are fallen away from there faith
2nd explaination these are christians who are living in sin or living like the world.
Bible references
1 John 2:15
Revelation 2:14-16
Matthew 24:10
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
We all know that in these days many christians are leaving there faith for an other religion or un believe. There also many christians now a days living in sin, and they don't know Jesus Chirst truly in there hearth
John 14:15 and
Matthew 7:23-27 this is my interpretation. God bless you all 🙏🏼✝️👑
People that think you CAN'T reject Christ or walk away from your salvation are blind. OF COURSE we can. God doesn't take away our free will, just because we said a prayer. IF that were the case, ALL Christians would be a WHOLE LOT better than they are.
MILLIONS of Christians have sacrificed their life and died horrible deaths to stay faithful to Christ. What's the point if they could have just rejected Christ and STILL maintained their salvation?
It doesn't even take the threat of death to get people to renounce their faith. Famous people are doing it all the time and just regular Church goers. Do you think God is going to FORCE them ALL to spend eternity with them, even though they've PUBLICLY declared they reject Him?
This is backed up OVER AND OVER again in scripture. But you want to take the concept that salvation is a free gift(only in that WE can't earn it) and therefore it means we CAN'T get rid of it. Sorry, I've thrown away a lot of free gifts that I no longer had use for.
Someone could gift me a $10 Million mansion. Something I could never afford on my own, but that doesn't mean I couldn't choose to burn it down or give it away.
Scriptures Below
We are told to WORK out our salvation with fear and trembling.
[Phl 2:12-13 NASB95] 12
So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for [His] good pleasure.
Jesus warns us of persecution to come, we will be hated by all on account of His name. But don't fear men who can only kill the body, fear the one who can destroy both body and soul in the lake of fire. If we Deny Christ He will deny Us
[Mat 10:32-33 NASB95]
32 "Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. 33 "But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
Jesus, Himself, warns OVER AND OVER, that it's the one who perseveres or overcomes to the end will be saved.
[Mat 24:12-13 NASB95]
12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. 13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
[Rev 2:7 NASB95]
7 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.'
[Rev 2:10-11 NASB95]
10 'Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. 11 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'
[Rev 3:5 NASB95]
5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
[Luk 6:46-49 NASB95]
46 "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? 47 "Everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and acts on them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. 49 "But the one who has heard and has not acted [accordingly,] is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great."
See how the narrator is struggling with his explanations lol. Folks, take the word of God as it is, if you dont abide in Christ you will fall away and perish.
Disagree
This sounds like an over reached hyperbole.
Ditto
People can justify eating a turd, like perverting The Word. False teacher.
Once saved, always saved is Calvin heresy. It was the unanimous consent of early Christians that a person could lose salvation by committing a grave sin, without repentance, as John spoke about in 1. John 16:17. Although Christ died for our sins, they are not automatically forgiven. We need the Sacrament of Baptism to forgive any sins we may have committed. After Baptism any grave sins committed have to be absolved and forgiven. Baptism is the first step toward salvation.
Yes. Read Matthew Chapter 25. 10 Christians who are born again. As per God himself Jesus Christ stated unless you are born again you can not enter the kingdom of heaven. So they are 10 born again Christians with lamps full of oil. Oil symbolizing the Holy Spirit. All fell asleep and then woke up with only 5 having the oil aka Holy Spirit in them and welcomed into heaven. The others after the fact trying to get in hearing the dread deadly words I never knew you. They were all Born again Christians and 5 did not continue in faith and relationship with God. They walked away. So we must do as God says and CONTINUE IN THE FAITH. Don't let your flame die out. If you dont trust God's words than be like all the liars and deceivers claiming God will accept you because once you were faithful and trusted in God and repented but then you back slid and started acting and becoming like the world and left your first love. Thinking somehow God will still accept you. That doesn't even work in life with people you know, family, marriages. They are relationships that require your attention. Walk away and see what happens. But I'm sure someone having seen God's word will still claim because they or someone they know once confessed God as their Lord and savior and repented and were baptized in the Holy Trinity but now live as the world does they are somehow still saved. Sure. Your lying to them and because of that your sending them to Hell.
@@Mr.C-Mister if you are truly born again, I repeat truly born again, then you cannot fall away. Since being born again is the work of the Holy Spirit and not by our own effort.
You don't lose it because of God as he is eternal. You lose it by walking away. Giving up on your faith. As Paul would say leaving your first love. Yes you can lose it because you lose faith and become a apostate. So please stop believing the lie you can never lose your salvation. If you give it up.
@@Mr.C-Mister if you think you could lose your salvation then you probably already did. How can anyone be so arrogant to think that he can lose his salvation but he still has not. Like I said being born again is the work of the Holy Spirit, not by our own effort.
If you decided to walk away from the faith you once held, sad to say, you have not been truly born again right from the beginning. When the Holy Spirit touches us, He gives us a new heart, a heart that is not fickle and undecided. It is a heart with conviction and a heart that grieves over all unrighteousness.
Sir with all due respect let's utilize God's word and not our own understanding. You can't place ONLY one answer of, we'll I guess they were never saved, where's that verse? If you can't find it than let's go find something like James 5:19-20 NKJV - Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
A fellow Christ wanders away but can be turned back and forgiven again. Otherwise you discard God's Parable of the 10 virgins where 5 are told I never knew you yet they all STARTED WITH OIL AKA HOLY SPIRIT and then 5 FOOLISH HAD NO MORE OIL AKA HOLY SPIRIT because likes James 5, Galatians 5 and others they turned away from God their first love. Here's a video as is the one you watched here but the difference it's verse by verse proof through God's infallible word that you don't hold grace forever. The free gift of salvation that you and I could never obtain through works that was taken freely by us by having faith in Jesus Christ and be given back by us as we become apostates. This is a message for you less you let loved ones perish in hell because you didn't pray for you them to turn from their sins and wicked ways and come back to Christ because you held a false belief.
@@Mr.C-MisterI don't understand your whole chunk of words. I don't see any link between what you said and being truly born again.
My message is clear and precise. If you are truly born again, you will not fall away. If in the end you indeed fall away, then you are not a truly born again Christian to begin with. You want to use God's word, then I will use God's word to state my point :
They WENT OUT FROM us, but they WERE NOT REALLY of us; for if they HAD BEEN OF us, they WOULD HAVE REMAINED with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.
- 1 John 2:19
Yes we can lose our salvation. Those who continue to sin and refuse to repent and turn from their ways. Will not be saved.
Keep the Commandments of our Father and your Faith in Jesus; and should you endure until the end . You will be saved.
Wrong absolutely wrong.If we can lose our salvation then you basically saying that Jesus is a weak savior. He said he will lose none of us. And we will never perish.
@@jaytkadv2429 if you think you can still sin and be saved. You're being manipulated into giving up your salvation without knowing it. :(
@@FirstLast-zk5ow dude stop with this insanity we sin every second of the day. Do you love the lord your god with all your heart and all your mind and all your soul? If you say you do you’re lying cause only Jesus did that.
@@jaytkadv2429 yes we do all sin. But those who sin believing that they have a get out hell card and don't have to repent. Will not be saved. Regardless of your mental illness.
@@FirstLast-zk5ow you’re still wrong man. Idk why you think you can hold on to Jesus you’re a sinner man. It’s impossible. A true born again Christian who is in sin repents. You over thinking you can lose your salvation like you saved yourself is insane. If you can lose it then that means you chose it. You did not choose Jesus.
Gross miscarriage of this book. Remember that the book of Hebrews was written to the Jews. This book is about instructions for the end times. Those who take the mark of the beast cannot be redeemed. Also remember that it is a different gospel for Jews. The were preached the gospel of the Kingdom, not the gospel of grace that Paul was instructed to preach. Without rightly dividing the word of truth and understanding that the Bible teaches dispensations you will forever be misled trying to reconcile the gospel of the Kingdom and the gospel of Grace.
It would take many years before Paul and his people were able to reach various Jewish based churches with the gospel of Grace. This is because to a Jew it was forbidden to associate with Gentiles, even fellow believers, so it was a stumbling block to many for a while. Also keep in mind that the Jews saved by the gospel of the kingdom were of the impression that Jesus would come back quickly to establish His kingdom on earth. Therefore, instructions on how to survive the end times, tribulation period, were seen as very important.
End times? It looks to me like a moderately in-depth comparison between two covenants and how they were administered.
@@deanfry879 no. It even says last days at the beginning of book. The Jews believed that Jesus would come back to set up His Kingdom. They believed it to be soon.
@@Badkharma21 Many use "these last days" to mean the very recent past, though I have not heard it that way recently.
@@deanfry879 maybe. But there are many references to indicate in many books that they thought Jesus return was imminent.
@@Badkharma21 l agree many Scriptures sound that way, and some make for sounding like the "last days" have been going for almost 2000 years. Yet Peter was told he would die as an old man. Whatever is right, we need to be ready on a moment's notice, yet able to sustain life for many years, effectively what Paul said to the Thessalonians.