100% this. It's nuts that no more racing games and sims are on the horizon for the PSVR2 at all. Racing, flying and FPS games are the _perfect_ games for VR. The PSVR2 lacks in all departments so far. GT7 makes the PSVR2 worth it, but only for those who love GT7 of course. Same with No Man's Sky.. If you're a human who plays NMS constantly, the PSVR2 is 100% worth the cost.
I played a lot of Dirt Rally from 1.0 to 2.0 starting from early access. I am dissapointed that sony does not make the effort to cut deals with developers.
I love the PSVR2 and GT7. Just got the Quest 3 and use it to play Dirt Rally 1 and 2 on a PC with a rtx 4090 on virtual desktop and it runs smooth and looks great!
I would have went with PC for my sim racing but it seems like none of them have car modding and career modes like GT7. Modding cars is 50% of the fun for me. Keeps me engaged...
Great video, Cas. Honest as always. I have a PS5 and love my VR2. BUT ... gotta say I am tempted by the Quest 3. I have a 3060 card in my PC, but unsure of GPU RAM. As u mentioned, the fiddling with getting settings right is worth it, but I'm not a geek, and am really wary of investing and then finding my tech/geek skills are not up to getting the most out of my setup. I'm almost 63, and as u said, reached that stage where I really don't want to be investing all my time fiddling.
😢 The beauty of PSVR2 and GT7 is that it works the first time and every time and runs smooth. Getting Assetto Corsa to look awesome is a hobby in itself, long before you even get behind the wheel! And if you forget to set something up because not all the settings get saved, you're stuck wondering why the PC game looks janky. And ACC is just a muddy mess in VR. Don't know anything about iRacing, but I'm too afraid to burn a hole thru my wallet 😅
I don't think putting on a Quest 3 from PSVR2 in itself is game-changing, but it does look really good. My two biggest gripes with PSVR2 is the small sweet spot in the headset and the implementation of the OLED screen leading to the dirty screen effect. The Quest 3 gets rid of these two things but even than, it's not enough for me to hang up my PSVR2 and GT7. I enjoy the racing in GT7. Will I play iRacing more now, maybe? I need to see if my settings run stable at all tracks and scenarios. Something you don't need to worry about in GT7 and PSVR2 as every track, no matter how many cars on screen just runs smooth with no hiccups.
Little update with my tgt2 ..it hasn't disconnected yet this week. I'm slowly regaining confidence in driving with it ..might have been the update?? Will keep you posted.. I'm slowly thinking about buying a desktop for racing so Thanks for all these videos
Most VR games made for the Quest will run great on the 3060. The ones that will require heavier GPU and CPU power are ports like Dirt 2.0 (rally car racing) and DCS (air combat game). I think it's mostly game dependent. As far as making use of the Quest 3, if you have wifi6e router, a wireless PCVR experience may win you over. But getting into Quest 3 and PCVR will be up to the games you want to play. Quest exclusives like Lone Echo, Stormlands, Asgard's Wrath will be a little taxing on a 3060 but it will run fine. PCVR Steam exclusives are like Half Life Alyx ine of the most polished VR games out there. It's a mix of aliens, shooting, moving around in creepy places, the vibe is alot like The Last of Us zombie game. For PSVR2, the exclusives are also amazing, like Gran Turismo7, Resident Evil among others, with RE4 VR remake coming later
I love GT7. But I can't do it for one racing game. If I were rich I would. Now I know you like sims, but some other good ones are Project cars 1, 2. and even 3 looks good now in Quest 3. It would fry my eyes in 20 minutes before. Grid Legends though not perfect looks quiet good now. I could only take 15 minutes in the Quest 2, but I love the game. And no F1 vr this year for ps5 was a crushing blow.
I do have Project Cars 1 but never really got into it. GRID LEGENDS definitely looks and plays better on the Quest 3 over the Qiest 2, being able to pump up the resolution and still get smooth gameplay.
Thanks for your content, as you cover both PC/PS5 It would be excellent to showcase same/car/track combinations between GT7 and any of the PC sims. Not just in how the VR or graphics compare but the whole experience from a fun or entertainment perspective.
You forgot to mention the headset haptics with the PSVR2 Headset which makes a huge huge difference in immersion when you crash at high speed in GT7 you actually feel it in your headset things like that make a huge difference I am getting Quest 3 next Friday as it will be my 1st Quest headset I’m getting one for its media functions and as a secondary screen for my computers and the mixed reality games but VR games I will use my PSVR2
The haptic feedback on the headset is a cool feature but not a game changer for me. If you play other VR games, you might find yourself using the Quest 3 more than you think, just for the sake of it being wireless.
I understand your point on not wanting to mod games, but I am happy that Assetto Corsa exists. I like to drift and the game has insane graphics, runs well, and has unlimited content if you are willing to mod. The game is kind of a safe haven for sim racing imho. No matter what new sim game comes out, AC has been a great fallback for me. Looking forward to AC2.
I am all for Assetto Corsa and the modding world. It's great what is being done with it and lots of it being free! You just need to be willing to spend the time finding things, making sure they work, testing things out, etc. Back in the day, I used to always root my Android phones and install custom ROMs and mods on it. Today, I just want my phone to work right out the box and I choose a phone that gives me the best experience at doing that. It's kind of just where I'm at right now.
@@thecasualracinggamer yooo I totally understand! I used to flash custom roms and kernels back during the CyanogenMod days lol. I totally get it. I'll be watching your channel man, you do great work.
I also have a Reverb G2 and Quest 3. G2 is lighter and sound is not tinny like the Quest 3. G2 does have a smaller sweet spot, Q3 has way better sweet spot as it is easier to find. Quest 3, with ASUS wifi6e router though has great wireless PCVR with my Nvidia 4090. If I had to make a decision, G2 is still superior in terms of weight, comfort and sound. As far as visuals, Q3 and G2 are the same. In terms of wireless PCVR, Quest 3 is the best option now in market, better than Quest2 latency
Thanks! I have a G2 currently, but ordering a quest 3. Is the link cable going to give me better graphics of I don't mind the cord? Latency? Ty for taking the time!
@Steadymobbin711 The link cable also has compression, through my testing Virtual Desktop through wifi6e router will deliver the best visuals, even better than the a wired link cable. Iv also had trouble with the link cable asking me to use a usb 3.0 port which I have and it also hates the wire the Quest 3 comes with, forcing you to buy their premium link cable, all the while with less visual quality. Having a good wifi6e router allows you to crank up Virtual Desktop and Meta Airlink to its maximum bitrates and still run great. Meta Airlink has visual artifacts but that mostly goes away if you crank the bitrate to max in the Quest app on your PC
@Steadymobbin711 As far as latency goes, I feel that my wireless experience is just as good as a link cable experience now. I do get the occasional visual blips but that is uncommon and very random, not distracting to me at least. Quest 3 has a wifi6e adapter and having an ASUS wifi6e router compliments it very well. You dont have to kick people off your 6ghz bandwidth either as that is wifi6e's gimmick. I go into the meta browser and type "latency test" to get feedback ony connection and your network adapter will heavily depict latency. My phone is average with wifi6e, while my Samsung Tablet just cant keep up good latency, playable but not better than others. Quest 3 performed better in latency than my Samsung 21+ phone. It was only beat by my wired ethernet computer in terms of latency
I'm actually pretty happy with the Quest built in sound. PSVR2 speakers sound horrible in comparison. Also, to use 6ghz wifi, you have to have a 4090 card, right? Not many people will be rocking that. For sim racing, I would always like to be plugged in. For any other VR, wireless 100%.
Depends on your patience , im sure when you get it all set up right its great on pc but i jave so many issues when using racing games with my vr headset and rig on pc Optimisation for vr on pc racing game conversions isnt great I get stupid problems like my wheel will work great when on flat then will just not work at all when switching to vr or just end up only being able to turn in ome direction Then on psvr 2 gt7 im literally getting better graphics and stability than anything i could play on pcand everything just works with ease true plug and play........ Just needs more games
@@thecasualracinggamer it's not vr that's the problem I can play bonelab , half life alyx, asgards wrath with no issues but for some reason using a wheel and vr headset together just causes me major issues
You said you'd prefer the VR2 with LCD panels but the issue isn't the panels it's that OLEDs for now don't work with pancake lenses and so Sony used Frenzal.
@@thecasualracinggamer agreed so we have to choose bright punchy colours of OLED and Frenzal or the duller and less saturated colours with LCD and Pancakes. Both seem great headsets and the future is looking great for VR. Thanks again for your vids and the sharing of your experiences.
@@thecasualracinggamer can I ask you, I understand that with the LCD panels of the Q3 that the blacks are more dark grey but just how muted are the colours when compared to the VR2? Just want your opinion as someone who has them side by side. Also how grainy is the passthrough in the Q3 as I'm planning on poss buying it as a standalone only headset (no gaming PC) and mainly for mixed reality games whilst keeping my VR2 for SIM racing? Don't worry I won't hold you to anything but would just appreciate your opinion as a user rather than a reviewer who got it for free from Meta.
I’ve been waiting years for Mixed Reality to become consumer based. It’s the next big step for VR, maybe as big a social media game changer as the iPhone, and millions of people will adopt it.
What Quest 3/PC-related settings were you running? Was this via link cable? VD? etc. I'm new to the concept of mobile headsets (I still only have my original Vive), but am trying to determine if this would be a step up for sim racing only (response time & clarity). I have a 4090 and 5900X with a wifi 6 (not E). Really trying to get an idea if this purchase would be worth it, or if the latency would ruin the experience even if the visuals look better than my Vive. I know with the Vive's HDMI it's obviously faster response than wireless, but can 45-ish latency (approximating based on things I have seen online) feel good enough to race? Thanks
i have a quest 2 and i can say for sim racing, if you go airlink it's perfectly acceptable but there will be compression even with wifi 6. now with a wired connection it can look way better with really minor compression. there will probably be horrendous micro stuttering and hours of troubleshooting to fix them (the fix is a custom os and turning every windows service off possible, get it lower than 100 on boot atleast and rgb and fan controlled in bios only). its not worth it imo wait until the pico 5 max next year, it's like double the resolution of the quest 3 and will have a display port connection for pcvr which solves everything wrong with any meta product.
As a even more casual driver there is just nothing on PC which comes close to GT7 in terms of graphics (especially lightning and color accuracy) car variety and also single player content which keeps me engaged. Next year could be interesting with the rumoured release of AC2 or a PS5 pro which should hopefully increase the visuals
ACC graphics on (a powerful) PC look better than GT7 graphics on PS5, however I do agree with you on the other points. As an aside they aren't really targeted at the same people as ACC is a full on sim. I'm also looking forward to AC2. Hopefully we get it Spring 2024.
GT7 Campaign blows away PC VR sims. Don't understand why here's no more more Arcade racing games on VR. Only simulator's. Even WRC would be great with Campaign mode. Not to mention Forza Horizon.
er...... wtf are you talking about ....is your PC a potato or something....🤣🤣🤣 BUT if what you mean is that console games are more for kids\arcade, yes thats true (dont forget they are made for 99.9% gamepad players), ... ...but that has nothing to do with Graphics which any 3080ti will eat a PS5 for fun and forget about the 4090 as that would kill a PS6 if there was such a thing, not to mention us PC gamers would laugh/cry our bottoms off with the PS5 frame rate which we PC gamers had back back in the Pentium 5 days But " as a causal driver" on PC you can play Forza, need for speed etc... and all the other kids/causal driver games And yes i have a console for playing fifa, assassin creed on....the sofa (what consoles are for)
Great review, subscribed. I was all set to buy Quest 3 but now I hear it won't work well at all with an AMD graphics card. I have the RX 6950 XT. Does anyone know if the most recent drivers have changed this? I use VR about 80% sim racing 20% watching videos. I could use my other rig with an nVidia 1080 TI. Would that likely work better or is that too old of technology?
I'm not really sure about AMD graphics cards. Only used my Quest headsets with nVidia GPUs. I think a 1080 TI is going to be underpowered to take advantage of what the Quest 3 can do.
The downside to the PSVR2 for me is: Where the hell are the games, Sony?? How come we're getting Resident Evils coming out the wahzoo and there's literally _no racing games_ coming out for the PSVR2? What???? How?? No rally, no F1, nothing. No Test Drive Solar Crown as far as we've heard. No The Crew, nothing.. NOTHING.... How??????????? When a headset doesn't even get VR support for the games that would be SUPER EASY to implement VR into, I start losing all hope pretty quickly. Right now, I'd say that GT7 is worth the price just due to how amazing the online racing is there and how easy it is to get GT7 rolling in VR (literally zero effort), but I'd be cautious about hoping for more than that. It just looks like the PSVR2 won't sell enough headsets to even get the driving game/sim developers interested... That's not a great sign... Some of these games even have VR support on PC, so adding it for PSVR2 would literally just be about lowering texture res and dropping some lighting... Sony can't even convince devs to do that... If you play a lot of GT7, if GT7 is your jam, ABSOLUTELY get a PSVR2. No question even. It is by far the most bang you'll get for your buck if you want to upgrade your fun. Even more so than a wheel IMO. With you on the modding. I just don't have the patience for that crap anymore. My Quests just run out of battery by the time I'm ready to play cause it just crashes 5 times before it runs right.. PCVR already has enough bugs even without the mods..
Agree, it doesn't look like racing game devs are interested in delivering their games on PSVR2 right now. I don't know how well the headset is selling but I guess they are maybe not seeing it profitable for them at this time. For me, if it isn't in VR, I'm not buying it.
What about looking way down track? The Quest 2 is blurry for me to a point I rather use my triple screens. Does the quest 3 improve that? I only really race iracing. ( 5800x3d and 3080ti)
hello - try this asap - just Disable HDR in ACC and AC… and then try virtual reality.!! I just discovered this like three weeks ago after years of playing ACc/AC. Bro, the VR is as good as AmS and GT7 etc-/even better “foux” Ray tracing. I cannot believe I did not know this -I discovered it on a forum let me know if it’s the best VR in Sim racing. I think it might be.
You said in one of your videos that you don't use Steam for your games, how do you launch your sim-racing games? I ask because I also have a T-GT II wheel and neither Automobilista 2 nor Assetto Corsa recognizes my wheel. I just purchased these games on Steam and I can't figure out how you're doing it. I don't know how else to launch these games. Please help
I just don't use Steam for iRacing. They have their own app you can use. For other sims, you need to purchase them through Steam. Make sure your T-GT II switch is set to other and not GT on the front of the base. Have you used the wheel for other PC games that is has worked for?
@@thecasualracinggamer Oh ok, I remember hearing you say you didn’t use steam, but I forgot which game. But yes, my wheel works fine with WRC 9 FIA on PC
- The Most Tragic and Sad thing about it All...I think the The PSVR2 is The Best VR HMD on the market in its price range, hands down. The Tragedy is that SONY designed this amazing f*cking VR headset as more of a marketing ploy to push console sales. Making this amazing HMD that is full of potential be shackled a console where VR just doesn't thrive. Admittedly, Gran Turismo 7 with the PSVR2 offers an S-Tier VR experience that no Sim title on PC has even came close too. Im talking about the "overall feeling and immersion", not just any specific thing. - So what need to happened but I doubt it will....its the SONY needs to allow the PSVR2 to work with PC. they would immediately dominate the VR space because of its price and specs. Most importantly it having something that is one of the most important features for a VR headset to have. that being EYE TRACKING! Which enables the of FOVEATED RENDERING and naturally allows PC users to play title and get more FPS than before and it not Static like OpenXR (still brilliant, BTW). That is the main reason GT7 look so damn good at such high frame-rates. - Whos knows though, SONY has been slowly migrating their games to PC and I dont understand why enabling PC Support for their PSVR2 would be a bad business decision at this point. - Again, what other HMDs have legit eye tracking for that price, none? I dont think most users truly know how powerful, useful, etc) Eye-tracked Foveated rendering actually is (if they even know at all). It sits up there with DLSS, FSR, Frame Generation, etc) for what it does. good based off everything it has in terms of the tech it has packed into it. I know it wont happen but if sony said "screw it" and released it to the PC consumers, I think it would have immediately dominated the VR market. I want to play GT7 in VR. Ive been sim racing for over a decade on PC with all the bells and whistles, racing titles, 500GB of AC mods, etc) which has been great. Especially when VR entered the picture because Flying and Racing titles were naturally the best medium for VR. I mean, there is nothing easier or more immersive when you use VR with a "game" that places you in a sitting position as a pilot, race car driver, a mech operator, spaceship, etc). That's why I think VR was perfect and a no brainer for Developers of those those titles that incorporated VR for those types of developers. No worries or hastle of needing to redesign your entire game to try and find ways to implement the hand tracking tracking and body movement. That's a complete nightmare on its own.;
@@thecasualracinggamer Absolutely, fair point, no question the Quest 3 clarity is better than PSVR 2. I picked the PSVR 2 because of other factors, including comfort, colors, blacks, plus it works on PS5.
Why do you even make a point that the headset doesn’t look good ? Like we do not care how the headset look you have on your face who would care about that honestly it’s all about performance and confort
LOL, because for me I record videos and do see it on camera. It doesn't look good to me. It looks like a development version of a headset. I didn't say don't buy it because of it. I was just making a point and creating conversation in my video about it.
sorry, so does automobilita play directly off the quest or does it run off a PC and play on Quest? does Quest have any sim racers that don't need a powerful pc?
Automobilista 2 requires a PC to play it. The Quest 3 in general requires a decent PC to run it well. For a stand alone racing game on the headset, you can check out GRID LEDGENDS.
I've heard that eye tracking gives a system a potential 33 percent increase in processing power. GT7 IS THE ONLY GAME in Vr that I've ever want to finish and is calling me back every so often .. PSVR 2 IS GREAT BUT COMFORT GOES TO QUEST 3 BECASUE OF THE LENSES ..and yes mixed reality has huge potential ...lucky for me I can make 500 bucks in a couple of trades so price ehhhh
I can't agree with comfort going to quest three but I use the bobo vr headstrap and while really good the lighter weight of the psvr 2 just allows me to play longer over it
You said if you have a ps5 you are not looking at the quest 3, i have to disagree on that! I think both headsets have their own purpose.. what i mean by that is, i had a quest 2 because its really a well rounded vr headset (i do not have a pc but stand-alone was fine) i now have a quest 3 because i wanted better visuals when it comes to watching content and its a standalone headset! So i can use it wherever i want. The psvr2 on the other hand.. is only focused on gaming and nothing else! Sure you can watch movies etc but for most people it will be a gaming device only. So they both serve a purpose. But! After using the quest 3.. i have to say.. i rather have pancake lenses than the oled fresnel (sorry im not native English) it’s good looking! But like you also said, the small sweet spot.. it’s annoying because you move around with the headset and you have to find the spot quite often. For sim racing it’s fine! But the benefits of those pancake lenses weighing heavier for me personally. I think both headsets can live alongside each other! It’s a difficult comparison since one is pure gaming and the other one is more of a well rounded device.
So, I really meant it as for sim racing. The Quest 3 is an awesome stand alone headset with mixed reality. Also for other games, wireless VR is the way than having to worry about a wire.
Is the Quest 3 much Better than PSVR2 for Sim Racing? Outside of GT7 ....there is no other options. If someone did not have either....they will get way more options with a Q3 and PC but that comes with a hell of a lot more money spent if your starting with nothing.
@@thecasualracinggamer And even more on top of that for a good Direct Drive Wheel, Pedals, Stand or Rig.....shit gets expensive if your into Sim Racing.
Yeah, I wasn't getting into that part as you will want/need it for whichever way you decide to go. I say want because you can race with a controller if you need too.
I personally think the Quest 3 looks like a prototype device. The Quest Pro was a great looking headset. Would have liked to see them following that design.
@@thecasualracinggamer From the 15+ vr headsets I can picture on top of my head the psvr2 looks more like the prototype here. bulky uneven head ring. bulky uneven shape/edges. psvr1 looks so much better in design. the psvr2 looks like baymax if he had a crooked face. Quest Pro is indeed pretty. Quest 3 looks normal its just a quest 2 but with rounded edges and is slimmer. I think you just don't like how the 3 front lenses look. Without it it looks like a quest 2 besides the slimness and rounded edges.
Quest 3 clarity is definitely up there! PSVR2 and GT7 just offers such smooth gameplay and fun that at this point I can look past those shortcomings and just enjoy the racing.
AMS2 looks incredible with Quest 3 using virtual desktop. Don' t bother with the link cable as Virtual desktop is way better with everything on high settings in game and max VD settings. PC rig: 11900k, 4090, 64gb RAM, Wifi6 router.
obviously PC master race and console peasants.... all the ps5 has for driving is Gt7 and thats total 💩 compared to PC driving games like AC, AMS2, Rf2, Raceroom, iracing....etc etc and lets not even talk about the hundreds and hundreds of FREE cars and tracks available for those PC games or the superior frame rate they run at 😎
@@thecasualracinggamer er what? 😱 By framerate I mean frames per second (FPS) So the PS5 is a 30/60 fps console which in GT7 they lowered the graphics to PS3 levels to try and squeeze 120... whereas my VR runs at 90 (ACC) or 120fps (AC, AMS2... etc) without lowering the graphics which in themselves are much better than PS5/gt7 to begin with, obviously depending on the game optimisation 😁 Personally the PSVR2 being wired is a NO NO for every game I play other than simracing and flight sim (and the PC games of these types are superior on PC, so why would I even think about PSVR2)and I'm now playing mixed reality eleven tennis and there is nothing like mixed reality on PSVR2 🤷🏻♂️ ... And I'm not giving up HL Alyx and pavlov anytime soon and I'm not playing them with a wire strapped to my head!!! 😁
I thought you were taking about flat screen frame rates on PC like 200fps or something based on you saying superior frame rates. I didn't think you were taking about VR frame rates. They are not really crazy, they are kind of standard now at 90Hz. I actually think with eye tracking and foveated rendering they can probably get GT7 to run at 90Hz natively. As for the Quest 3, MR is awesome and I do own Eleven Table Tennis.
@@thecasualracinggamer ah OK, cool, my bad for not saying PC VR 🤦🏻♂️ Me, I love eleven tennis and pavlov at the moment in VR, along with msfs and AMS2 personally can't get enough... Ordering the zeyber neck battery thing to last even longer next! 😍
hey what kind of issues did you have with ACC in VR? I heard that the quest 3 improved the VR experience in ACC a lot. maybe its worth checking how much it improved over the quest 2? Im waiting for my quest 3 to arrive and i've got my fingers crossed for ACC.
@@thecasualracinggamer Yeah, ACC is hellishly demanding. On my 3070 it looks like abject trash when I finally get it to run at 72fps. It's baffling how bad it looks. There's also just not enough variety in cars and stuff in that game for my tastes. I get that they're making a full on GT game there, but still.. Too narrow.
I guess a lot of people just don't have the Pro due to its high price and it really put it up against different headsets in its price range. With the Quest 3 you are getting a higher resolution screen and better lenses. Also for stand alone, better gpu and better pass through. I think the Pro is kind of irrelevant now with the release of the Quest 3.
@@NeoV0236 No! Really? I didn’t know lolll I passed the age to play the FanBoys lol I have the Quest 2 (256 GB) and 3 (512 GB) and the PSVR2. Each has negative and positive points
@@gad41 you passed that age so you say yet your argument up top only says otherwise.... my reply has nothing to do with fanboyism. clearly atking the argument itself. oh well.
After owning both imo the psvr2 was and is overhyped and overrated and if it ever has a redesign I would much prefer pancake lenses and built in speakers on the vr2
@@jamiepoulton5584 I have all 3 too. I can understand you preferring them over PSVR2 but calling the PSVR2 overhyped why are you so mad at it lol. Like Besides a little extra clarity on the Quest 3 really my Quest 2 do almost everything the same I’m not wowed by the Quest 3 to justify keeping them and the accessories are expensive as heck. For me the PSVR 2 tied with the PS5 offers a more different experience better for gaming in my opinion. The exclusive PS VR tittles are more impressive than the games on the Quest. The OLED screens in my opinion offer a better experience when watching content or playing games due to the black levels.
What I regret about PSVR2 is that there are currently no more racing games, other than GT 7. Fortunately, it is my favorite racing game.
100% this. It's nuts that no more racing games and sims are on the horizon for the PSVR2 at all. Racing, flying and FPS games are the _perfect_ games for VR. The PSVR2 lacks in all departments so far.
GT7 makes the PSVR2 worth it, but only for those who love GT7 of course. Same with No Man's Sky.. If you're a human who plays NMS constantly, the PSVR2 is 100% worth the cost.
@@JimmyNuisance What about ACC for the PSVR2?
@@markusjorga2242acc isn’t vr on ps5
Yes, unfortunately it looks like other racing game devs don't have any interest in supporting PSVR2 at this time.
I played a lot of Dirt Rally from 1.0 to 2.0 starting from early access. I am dissapointed that sony does not make the effort to cut deals with developers.
I love the PSVR2 and GT7. Just got the Quest 3 and use it to play Dirt Rally 1 and 2 on a PC with a rtx 4090 on virtual desktop and it runs smooth and looks great!
Nice. Do you use a dedicated router?
sorry, so does Quest have any sim racers that don't need a powerful pc?
@@MrCarpediem6ac
PSVR 2 & Quest 3 are very much complementary headsets. Both give you the best experience on their respective platforms.
Agree.
I would have went with PC for my sim racing but it seems like none of them have car modding and career modes like GT7. Modding cars is 50% of the fun for me. Keeps me engaged...
Great video, Cas. Honest as always.
I have a PS5 and love my VR2. BUT ... gotta say I am tempted by the Quest 3.
I have a 3060 card in my PC, but unsure of GPU RAM.
As u mentioned, the fiddling with getting settings right is worth it, but I'm not a geek, and am really wary of investing and then finding my tech/geek skills are not up to getting the most out of my setup.
I'm almost 63, and as u said, reached that stage where I really don't want to be investing all my time fiddling.
😢 The beauty of PSVR2 and GT7 is that it works the first time and every time and runs smooth. Getting Assetto Corsa to look awesome is a hobby in itself, long before you even get behind the wheel! And if you forget to set something up because not all the settings get saved, you're stuck wondering why the PC game looks janky. And ACC is just a muddy mess in VR. Don't know anything about iRacing, but I'm too afraid to burn a hole thru my wallet 😅
I don't think putting on a Quest 3 from PSVR2 in itself is game-changing, but it does look really good. My two biggest gripes with PSVR2 is the small sweet spot in the headset and the implementation of the OLED screen leading to the dirty screen effect. The Quest 3 gets rid of these two things but even than, it's not enough for me to hang up my PSVR2 and GT7. I enjoy the racing in GT7. Will I play iRacing more now, maybe? I need to see if my settings run stable at all tracks and scenarios. Something you don't need to worry about in GT7 and PSVR2 as every track, no matter how many cars on screen just runs smooth with no hiccups.
Little update with my tgt2 ..it hasn't disconnected yet this week. I'm slowly regaining confidence in driving with it ..might have been the update?? Will keep you posted..
I'm slowly thinking about buying a desktop for racing so Thanks for all these videos
Most VR games made for the Quest will run great on the 3060. The ones that will require heavier GPU and CPU power are ports like Dirt 2.0 (rally car racing) and DCS (air combat game). I think it's mostly game dependent. As far as making use of the Quest 3, if you have wifi6e router, a wireless PCVR experience may win you over. But getting into Quest 3 and PCVR will be up to the games you want to play. Quest exclusives like Lone Echo, Stormlands, Asgard's Wrath will be a little taxing on a 3060 but it will run fine. PCVR Steam exclusives are like Half Life Alyx ine of the most polished VR games out there. It's a mix of aliens, shooting, moving around in creepy places, the vibe is alot like The Last of Us zombie game. For PSVR2, the exclusives are also amazing, like Gran Turismo7, Resident Evil among others, with RE4 VR remake coming later
@thecasualracinggamer
Leaving a comment at your attention in the wrong section. lol 😆
I love GT7. But I can't do it for one racing game. If I were rich I would. Now I know you like sims, but some other good ones are Project cars 1, 2. and even 3 looks good now in Quest 3. It would fry my eyes in 20 minutes before. Grid Legends though not perfect looks quiet good now. I could only take 15 minutes in the Quest 2, but I love the game. And no F1 vr this year for ps5 was a crushing blow.
I do have Project Cars 1 but never really got into it. GRID LEGENDS definitely looks and plays better on the Quest 3 over the Qiest 2, being able to pump up the resolution and still get smooth gameplay.
As someone who recently criticised your delivery on a past video, this was spot on and made the video far more enjoyable to watch.
Appreciate the comment. Good or bad. 😁
Thanks for your content, as you cover both PC/PS5 It would be excellent to showcase same/car/track combinations between GT7 and any of the PC sims.
Not just in how the VR or graphics compare but the whole experience from a fun or entertainment perspective.
You forgot to mention the headset haptics with the PSVR2 Headset which makes a huge huge difference in immersion when you crash at high speed in GT7 you actually feel it in your headset things like that make a huge difference I am getting Quest 3 next Friday as it will be my 1st Quest headset I’m getting one for its media functions and as a secondary screen for my computers and the mixed reality games but VR games I will use my PSVR2
The haptic feedback on the headset is a cool feature but not a game changer for me. If you play other VR games, you might find yourself using the Quest 3 more than you think, just for the sake of it being wireless.
Subscribed, I’m in the same boat when it comes to sim racing. I enjoy it but have never watched a race and don’t have a driver lol.
Thanks and welcome!
The Quest 3 with a PC all day for sim racing when you only have one game you can play on PSVR2.
I have a Quest 3 on the way. Getting beck on iRacing. Excited to try the link cable at 960 mbps with that FOV and lenses.
I understand your point on not wanting to mod games, but I am happy that Assetto Corsa exists. I like to drift and the game has insane graphics, runs well, and has unlimited content if you are willing to mod. The game is kind of a safe haven for sim racing imho. No matter what new sim game comes out, AC has been a great fallback for me. Looking forward to AC2.
I am all for Assetto Corsa and the modding world. It's great what is being done with it and lots of it being free! You just need to be willing to spend the time finding things, making sure they work, testing things out, etc. Back in the day, I used to always root my Android phones and install custom ROMs and mods on it. Today, I just want my phone to work right out the box and I choose a phone that gives me the best experience at doing that. It's kind of just where I'm at right now.
@@thecasualracinggamer yooo I totally understand! I used to flash custom roms and kernels back during the CyanogenMod days lol. I totally get it. I'll be watching your channel man, you do great work.
Cyanogenmods....Oh, that brings back memories!
I also have a Reverb G2 and Quest 3. G2 is lighter and sound is not tinny like the Quest 3. G2 does have a smaller sweet spot, Q3 has way better sweet spot as it is easier to find. Quest 3, with ASUS wifi6e router though has great wireless PCVR with my Nvidia 4090. If I had to make a decision, G2 is still superior in terms of weight, comfort and sound. As far as visuals, Q3 and G2 are the same. In terms of wireless PCVR, Quest 3 is the best option now in market, better than Quest2 latency
Thanks! I have a G2 currently, but ordering a quest 3. Is the link cable going to give me better graphics of I don't mind the cord? Latency? Ty for taking the time!
@Steadymobbin711 The link cable also has compression, through my testing Virtual Desktop through wifi6e router will deliver the best visuals, even better than the a wired link cable. Iv also had trouble with the link cable asking me to use a usb 3.0 port which I have and it also hates the wire the Quest 3 comes with, forcing you to buy their premium link cable, all the while with less visual quality. Having a good wifi6e router allows you to crank up Virtual Desktop and Meta Airlink to its maximum bitrates and still run great. Meta Airlink has visual artifacts but that mostly goes away if you crank the bitrate to max in the Quest app on your PC
@Steadymobbin711 As far as latency goes, I feel that my wireless experience is just as good as a link cable experience now. I do get the occasional visual blips but that is uncommon and very random, not distracting to me at least. Quest 3 has a wifi6e adapter and having an ASUS wifi6e router compliments it very well. You dont have to kick people off your 6ghz bandwidth either as that is wifi6e's gimmick. I go into the meta browser and type "latency test" to get feedback ony connection and your network adapter will heavily depict latency. My phone is average with wifi6e, while my Samsung Tablet just cant keep up good latency, playable but not better than others. Quest 3 performed better in latency than my Samsung 21+ phone. It was only beat by my wired ethernet computer in terms of latency
I'm actually pretty happy with the Quest built in sound. PSVR2 speakers sound horrible in comparison. Also, to use 6ghz wifi, you have to have a 4090 card, right? Not many people will be rocking that. For sim racing, I would always like to be plugged in. For any other VR, wireless 100%.
Quest 3 is way better than G2. I keep on adjusting the G2 just to find the sweet spot while sim racing.
Depends on your patience , im sure when you get it all set up right its great on pc but i jave so many issues when using racing games with my vr headset and rig on pc
Optimisation for vr on pc racing game conversions isnt great
I get stupid problems like my wheel will work great when on flat then will just not work at all when switching to vr or just end up only being able to turn in ome direction
Then on psvr 2 gt7 im literally getting better graphics and stability than anything i could play on pcand everything just works with ease true plug and play........ Just needs more games
Yeah, I know some people just have PCs that don't want to work well with VR unfortunately.
@@thecasualracinggamer it's not vr that's the problem I can play bonelab , half life alyx, asgards wrath with no issues but for some reason using a wheel and vr headset together just causes me major issues
@@weplayvrgamesif they are connected via usb there might be interference happening. Typical PC gotcha’s
You said you'd prefer the VR2 with LCD panels but the issue isn't the panels it's that OLEDs for now don't work with pancake lenses and so Sony used Frenzal.
It's the dirty screen effect you get with OLED screens that you don't get with LCD screens.
@@thecasualracinggamer agreed so we have to choose bright punchy colours of OLED and Frenzal or the duller and less saturated colours with LCD and Pancakes. Both seem great headsets and the future is looking great for VR. Thanks again for your vids and the sharing of your experiences.
@@thecasualracinggamer can I ask you, I understand that with the LCD panels of the Q3 that the blacks are more dark grey but just how muted are the colours when compared to the VR2? Just want your opinion as someone who has them side by side. Also how grainy is the passthrough in the Q3 as I'm planning on poss buying it as a standalone only headset (no gaming PC) and mainly for mixed reality games whilst keeping my VR2 for SIM racing?
Don't worry I won't hold you to anything but would just appreciate your opinion as a user rather than a reviewer who got it for free from Meta.
Excellent review cas! Really well explained differences between the three. And whats necessary to make the Q2 and Q3 work well.
👍👍💯🇺🇸
Thank you. 😊
Thanks for the vid! Have you tried Grid Legends on the Quest 3? I'm wondering if you can crank the sliders all the way up now.
Yes!!! So much better now.
Grid legends is a joke on a quest. Graphics Like we went back to the 95'. Requested a refund 2 hours after buying the damn game
I’ve been waiting years for Mixed Reality to become consumer based. It’s the next big step for VR, maybe as big a social media game changer as the iPhone, and millions of people will adopt it.
Mixed Realtty is going to be amazing. In its beginning stages right now, it's already great.
What Quest 3/PC-related settings were you running? Was this via link cable? VD? etc. I'm new to the concept of mobile headsets (I still only have my original Vive), but am trying to determine if this would be a step up for sim racing only (response time & clarity). I have a 4090 and 5900X with a wifi 6 (not E). Really trying to get an idea if this purchase would be worth it, or if the latency would ruin the experience even if the visuals look better than my Vive. I know with the Vive's HDMI it's obviously faster response than wireless, but can 45-ish latency (approximating based on things I have seen online) feel good enough to race? Thanks
i have a quest 2 and i can say for sim racing, if you go airlink it's perfectly acceptable but there will be compression even with wifi 6. now with a wired connection it can look way better with really minor compression. there will probably be horrendous micro stuttering and hours of troubleshooting to fix them (the fix is a custom os and turning every windows service off possible, get it lower than 100 on boot atleast and rgb and fan controlled in bios only). its not worth it imo wait until the pico 5 max next year, it's like double the resolution of the quest 3 and will have a display port connection for pcvr which solves everything wrong with any meta product.
I shared my settings in my last video. I have no issues with feel in racing but I'm just a casual racer. LOL
What is Sony with the psvr 2 ? Many game could be easily convert to psvr 2 like Wipeout or astrobot and they do nothing...
Yeah, if should be easy for them so their support of PSVR2 is questionable.
i'm waiting for the pimax 12k and a 5090, then i can quit with social life for good
LOL
Apologies if you already mentioned this but how does the FOV compare between PSVR2 and Q3? Thanks
Quest 3 and PSV2 FOV are similar to each other.
Automobilista 2 is a great online game if you join community's. I race nearly everyday with a great group of guys. All fun clean racing.
Oh, nice.
As a even more casual driver there is just nothing on PC which comes close to GT7 in terms of graphics (especially lightning and color accuracy) car variety and also single player content which keeps me engaged.
Next year could be interesting with the rumoured release of AC2 or a PS5 pro which should hopefully increase the visuals
ACC graphics on (a powerful) PC look better than GT7 graphics on PS5, however I do agree with you on the other points. As an aside they aren't really targeted at the same people as ACC is a full on sim.
I'm also looking forward to AC2. Hopefully we get it Spring 2024.
GT7 Campaign blows away PC VR sims. Don't understand why here's no more more Arcade racing games on VR. Only simulator's. Even WRC would be great with Campaign mode. Not to mention Forza Horizon.
er...... wtf are you talking about ....is your PC a potato or something....🤣🤣🤣
BUT if what you mean is that console games are more for kids\arcade, yes thats true (dont forget they are made for 99.9% gamepad players), ...
...but that has nothing to do with Graphics which any 3080ti will eat a PS5 for fun and forget about the 4090 as that would kill a PS6 if there was such a thing, not to mention us PC gamers would laugh/cry our bottoms off with the PS5 frame rate which we PC gamers had back back in the Pentium 5 days
But " as a causal driver" on PC you can play Forza, need for speed etc... and all the other kids/causal driver games
And yes i have a console for playing fifa, assassin creed on....the sofa (what consoles are for)
Awesome honest review thanks mate
Thank you.
Great review, subscribed. I was all set to buy Quest 3 but now I hear it won't work well at all with an AMD graphics card. I have the RX 6950 XT. Does anyone know if the most recent drivers have changed this? I use VR about 80% sim racing 20% watching videos. I could use my other rig with an nVidia 1080 TI. Would that likely work better or is that too old of technology?
I'm not really sure about AMD graphics cards. Only used my Quest headsets with nVidia GPUs. I think a 1080 TI is going to be underpowered to take advantage of what the Quest 3 can do.
I will take oled over LCD any day .
I know people love their OLED VR screens but I would rather get better clarity when it comes to VR.
The downside to the PSVR2 for me is: Where the hell are the games, Sony?? How come we're getting Resident Evils coming out the wahzoo and there's literally _no racing games_ coming out for the PSVR2? What???? How??
No rally, no F1, nothing. No Test Drive Solar Crown as far as we've heard. No The Crew, nothing.. NOTHING.... How???????????
When a headset doesn't even get VR support for the games that would be SUPER EASY to implement VR into, I start losing all hope pretty quickly.
Right now, I'd say that GT7 is worth the price just due to how amazing the online racing is there and how easy it is to get GT7 rolling in VR (literally zero effort), but I'd be cautious about hoping for more than that. It just looks like the PSVR2 won't sell enough headsets to even get the driving game/sim developers interested... That's not a great sign... Some of these games even have VR support on PC, so adding it for PSVR2 would literally just be about lowering texture res and dropping some lighting... Sony can't even convince devs to do that...
If you play a lot of GT7, if GT7 is your jam, ABSOLUTELY get a PSVR2. No question even. It is by far the most bang you'll get for your buck if you want to upgrade your fun. Even more so than a wheel IMO.
With you on the modding. I just don't have the patience for that crap anymore. My Quests just run out of battery by the time I'm ready to play cause it just crashes 5 times before it runs right.. PCVR already has enough bugs even without the mods..
Agree, it doesn't look like racing game devs are interested in delivering their games on PSVR2 right now. I don't know how well the headset is selling but I guess they are maybe not seeing it profitable for them at this time. For me, if it isn't in VR, I'm not buying it.
Sold mine no support …ps has a bad reputation supporting there products
What about looking way down track? The Quest 2 is blurry for me to a point I rather use my triple screens. Does the quest 3 improve that? I only really race iracing. ( 5800x3d and 3080ti)
Things look pretty clear all the way down. You need to boost your resolution and bitrate. Check out my last video for my settings.
hello - try this asap - just Disable HDR in ACC and
AC… and then try virtual reality.!!
I just discovered this like three weeks ago after years of playing ACc/AC. Bro, the VR is as good as AmS and GT7 etc-/even better “foux” Ray tracing.
I cannot believe I did not know this -I discovered it on a forum let me know if it’s the best VR in Sim racing. I think it might be.
Sounds crazy but I'll try it. I am thinking it probably is something I would have disabled already anyway when I was playing with the settings.
Vr2 is to blurry, i ordered quest 3.
The problem with psvr2 is that there’s only GT7. No F1 or WRC in vr
GT7 offers a lot though!
Psvr steady behind everybody. Just throw in the towel bro.
I don't need to throw in any towels. GT7 is a great game to play on PS5 and PSVR2. We can enjoy more then one thing.
You said in one of your videos that you don't use Steam for your games, how do you launch your sim-racing games? I ask because I also have a T-GT II wheel and neither Automobilista 2 nor Assetto Corsa recognizes my wheel. I just purchased these games on Steam and I can't figure out how you're doing it. I don't know how else to launch these games. Please help
I just don't use Steam for iRacing. They have their own app you can use. For other sims, you need to purchase them through Steam. Make sure your T-GT II switch is set to other and not GT on the front of the base. Have you used the wheel for other PC games that is has worked for?
@@thecasualracinggamer Oh ok, I remember hearing you say you didn’t use steam, but I forgot which game. But yes, my wheel works fine with WRC 9 FIA on PC
- The Most Tragic and Sad thing about it All...I think the The PSVR2 is The Best VR HMD on the market in its price range, hands down. The Tragedy is that SONY designed this amazing f*cking VR headset as more of a marketing ploy to push console sales. Making this amazing HMD that is full of potential be shackled a console where VR just doesn't thrive. Admittedly, Gran Turismo 7 with the PSVR2 offers an S-Tier VR experience that no Sim title on PC has even came close too. Im talking about the "overall feeling and immersion", not just any specific thing.
- So what need to happened but I doubt it will....its the SONY needs to allow the PSVR2 to work with PC. they would immediately dominate the VR space because of its price and specs. Most importantly it having something that is one of the most important features for a VR headset to have. that being EYE TRACKING! Which enables the of FOVEATED RENDERING and naturally allows PC users to play title and get more FPS than before and it not Static like OpenXR (still brilliant, BTW). That is the main reason GT7 look so damn good at such high frame-rates.
- Whos knows though, SONY has been slowly migrating their games to PC and I dont understand why enabling PC Support for their PSVR2 would be a bad business decision at this point.
- Again, what other HMDs have legit eye tracking for that price, none? I dont think most users truly know how powerful, useful, etc) Eye-tracked Foveated rendering actually is (if they even know at all). It sits up there with DLSS, FSR, Frame Generation, etc) for what it does. good based off everything it has in terms of the tech it has packed into it. I know it wont happen but if sony said "screw it" and released it to the PC consumers, I think it would have immediately dominated the VR market. I want to play GT7 in VR. Ive been sim racing for over a decade on PC with all the bells and whistles, racing titles, 500GB of AC mods, etc) which has been great. Especially when VR entered the picture because Flying and Racing titles were naturally the best medium for VR. I mean, there is nothing easier or more immersive when you use VR with a "game" that places you in a sitting position as a pilot, race car driver, a mech operator, spaceship, etc). That's why I think VR was perfect and a no brainer for Developers of those those titles that incorporated VR for those types of developers. No worries or hastle of needing to redesign your entire game to try and find ways to implement the hand tracking tracking and body movement. That's a complete nightmare on its own.;
It's already been reported that Sony is working on PC compatibility for PSVR2 this year.
I tried the Quest 3 but PSVR 2 and the Reverb G2 are both better.
I haven't tried a Reverb G2 but Clarity wise, I think the Quest 3 takes it over PSVR2. Also, the lenses are game changer.
@@thecasualracinggamer Absolutely, fair point, no question the Quest 3 clarity is better than PSVR 2. I picked the PSVR 2 because of other factors, including comfort, colors, blacks, plus it works on PS5.
Why do you even make a point that the headset doesn’t look good ? Like we do not care how the headset look you have on your face who would care about that honestly it’s all about performance and confort
LOL, because for me I record videos and do see it on camera. It doesn't look good to me. It looks like a development version of a headset. I didn't say don't buy it because of it. I was just making a point and creating conversation in my video about it.
@@thecasualracinggamer yeah I get that for the content creator but most people does not care at all 😂
ACC turn the dlss on and the game will run smooth in Vr.I play AC modded and i love the drifting stages.
I've tried it on my Quest 2 a while back with DLSS on, and it just didn't look good.
sorry, so does automobilita play directly off the quest or does it run off a PC and play on Quest? does Quest have any sim racers that don't need a powerful pc?
Automobilista 2 requires a PC to play it. The Quest 3 in general requires a decent PC to run it well. For a stand alone racing game on the headset, you can check out GRID LEDGENDS.
@@thecasualracinggamer tks
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Have you played Grid Legends on Quest 3 yet at 120hz. It is a game changer.
Yes, more than the FPS boost, for me, is the boost in resolution!
Is it good standalone on quest 3 I don't think Ive played a racing game on the quest yet
Yes it is great on the quest 3.
F1,23 please do psvr2 update
I've heard that eye tracking gives a system a potential 33 percent increase in processing power. GT7 IS THE ONLY GAME in Vr that I've ever want to finish and is calling me back every so often .. PSVR 2 IS GREAT BUT COMFORT GOES TO QUEST 3 BECASUE OF THE LENSES ..and yes mixed reality has huge potential ...lucky for me I can make 500 bucks in a couple of trades so price ehhhh
Eye tracking is an amazing feature.
I can't agree with comfort going to quest three but I use the bobo vr headstrap and while really good the lighter weight of the psvr 2 just allows me to play longer over it
You said if you have a ps5 you are not looking at the quest 3, i have to disagree on that! I think both headsets have their own purpose.. what i mean by that is, i had a quest 2 because its really a well rounded vr headset (i do not have a pc but stand-alone was fine) i now have a quest 3 because i wanted better visuals when it comes to watching content and its a standalone headset! So i can use it wherever i want. The psvr2 on the other hand.. is only focused on gaming and nothing else! Sure you can watch movies etc but for most people it will be a gaming device only. So they both serve a purpose. But! After using the quest 3.. i have to say.. i rather have pancake lenses than the oled fresnel (sorry im not native English) it’s good looking! But like you also said, the small sweet spot.. it’s annoying because you move around with the headset and you have to find the spot quite often. For sim racing it’s fine! But the benefits of those pancake lenses weighing heavier for me personally. I think both headsets can live alongside each other! It’s a difficult comparison since one is pure gaming and the other one is more of a well rounded device.
So, I really meant it as for sim racing. The Quest 3 is an awesome stand alone headset with mixed reality. Also for other games, wireless VR is the way than having to worry about a wire.
My psvr 2 is my home gaming vr system my quest 3 is for taking to friends or going away etc
Is the Quest 3 much Better than PSVR2 for Sim Racing? Outside of GT7 ....there is no other options. If someone did not have either....they will get way more options with a Q3 and PC but that comes with a hell of a lot more money spent if your starting with nothing.
Correct. For $1,000, you get a PS5 and PSVR2. Add at least another $1,000 to $1,500 on top of that for a PC and VR headset to get started.
@@thecasualracinggamer And even more on top of that for a good Direct Drive Wheel, Pedals, Stand or Rig.....shit gets expensive if your into Sim Racing.
Yeah, I wasn't getting into that part as you will want/need it for whichever way you decide to go. I say want because you can race with a controller if you need too.
I strongly disagree apart from the default strap the quest 3 looks pretty.
psvr2 looksugly with its proportions.
I personally think the Quest 3 looks like a prototype device. The Quest Pro was a great looking headset. Would have liked to see them following that design.
@@thecasualracinggamer From the 15+ vr headsets I can picture on top of my head the psvr2 looks more like the prototype here.
bulky uneven head ring. bulky uneven shape/edges. psvr1 looks so much better in design. the psvr2 looks like baymax if he had a crooked face. Quest Pro is indeed pretty. Quest 3 looks normal its just a quest 2 but with rounded edges and is slimmer. I think you just don't like how the 3 front lenses look. Without it it looks like a quest 2 besides the slimness and rounded edges.
@@NeoV0236 no it looks like a trauma team helmet from cyberpunk but uglier because it's chunky
Blurriness and reprojection ruined PS VR2 for me. Quest 3 is amazing
Quest 3 clarity is definitely up there! PSVR2 and GT7 just offers such smooth gameplay and fun that at this point I can look past those shortcomings and just enjoy the racing.
is 4070 enough to run Quest 3 at decent quality?
I would think so.
AMS2 looks incredible with Quest 3 using virtual desktop. Don' t bother with the link cable as Virtual desktop is way better with everything on high settings in game and max VD settings. PC rig: 11900k, 4090, 64gb RAM, Wifi6 router.
AMS2 looks amazing with a Link cable so not sure why you would say otherwise. Also, not many people are running a 4090 and wifi6.
I love putting syrup on my pancakes
Don't we all.
obviously PC master race and console peasants....
all the ps5 has for driving is Gt7 and thats total 💩 compared to PC driving games like AC, AMS2, Rf2, Raceroom, iracing....etc etc and lets not even talk about the hundreds and hundreds of FREE cars and tracks available for those PC games or the superior frame rate they run at 😎
Superior frame rates they run isn't really relevant if racing in VR.
@@thecasualracinggamer er what? 😱
By framerate I mean frames per second (FPS)
So the PS5 is a 30/60 fps console which in GT7 they lowered the graphics to PS3 levels to try and squeeze 120... whereas my VR runs at 90 (ACC) or 120fps (AC, AMS2... etc) without lowering the graphics which in themselves are much better than PS5/gt7 to begin with, obviously depending on the game optimisation 😁
Personally the PSVR2 being wired is a NO NO for every game I play other than simracing and flight sim (and the PC games of these types are superior on PC, so why would I even think about PSVR2)and I'm now playing mixed reality eleven tennis and there is nothing like mixed reality on PSVR2 🤷🏻♂️ ... And I'm not giving up HL Alyx and pavlov anytime soon and I'm not playing them with a wire strapped to my head!!! 😁
I thought you were taking about flat screen frame rates on PC like 200fps or something based on you saying superior frame rates. I didn't think you were taking about VR frame rates. They are not really crazy, they are kind of standard now at 90Hz. I actually think with eye tracking and foveated rendering they can probably get GT7 to run at 90Hz natively.
As for the Quest 3, MR is awesome and I do own Eleven Table Tennis.
@@thecasualracinggamer ah OK, cool, my bad for not saying PC VR 🤦🏻♂️
Me, I love eleven tennis and pavlov at the moment in VR, along with msfs and AMS2 personally can't get enough... Ordering the zeyber neck battery thing to last even longer next! 😍
There's no sim racing on PSVR2. There's only one arcade racing game called GT7. No sim there. This video's title is no-sense.
You can call it whatever makes you happy. 😉
Lol GT7 arcade game 😂😂😂 GT7 is the very definition of sim racing
hey what kind of issues did you have with ACC in VR? I heard that the quest 3 improved the VR experience in ACC a lot. maybe its worth checking how much it improved over the quest 2?
Im waiting for my quest 3 to arrive and i've got my fingers crossed for ACC.
In order to get the game to run smooth, I needed to lower all the settings down and then the game just looked terrible.
@@thecasualracinggamer Yeah, ACC is hellishly demanding. On my 3070 it looks like abject trash when I finally get it to run at 72fps. It's baffling how bad it looks.
There's also just not enough variety in cars and stuff in that game for my tastes. I get that they're making a full on GT game there, but still.. Too narrow.
@@thecasualracinggameryou need the modded engine.ini !
then it looks crisp too !
72hz mode .
no one is comparing quest pro vs quest 3
I guess a lot of people just don't have the Pro due to its high price and it really put it up against different headsets in its price range. With the Quest 3 you are getting a higher resolution screen and better lenses. Also for stand alone, better gpu and better pass through. I think the Pro is kind of irrelevant now with the release of the Quest 3.
I got the psvr2 and never got it to work! "Too many usb devices connected" Sony sucks! They Want me to buy a new ps5!
Huh? You plug it in, and it just works.
Sorry but what you say is half true. Because I have no PC. If I compare my Quest 3 (without pc) to my PSVR2. the PSVR2 is better!
Yeah, it's not really a fair comparison. LOL
doesn't make sense... your psvr2 is nothing without ps5. Clear bias.
@@NeoV0236 No! Really? I didn’t know lolll
I passed the age to play the FanBoys lol
I have the Quest 2 (256 GB) and 3 (512 GB) and the PSVR2. Each has negative and positive points
@@gad41 you passed that age so you say yet your
argument up top only says otherwise.... my reply has nothing to do with fanboyism. clearly atking the argument itself. oh well.
@@NeoV0236lol
lesson learned... QUEST 3 IS UGLY... 😂😂😂
YOU ROCK MAN...
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I think it is a good point, it is kinda ugly. Luckily I don't have to look at the outside of my Quest 3 when using it.🤣
When I put the Quest 3 on and walk down the street the women all surround me screaming"Omg!!! It's GigaChad!!!! 😍😍😍"
Psvr2 is the ugliest headset chunky disproportional oblong. it's looks like baymax and a cyberpunk trauma team helmet had a fat baby 😂😂😂 😂😂😂 😂😂😂 😂😂😂
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. For me its reveresed, the Quest looks much better. ✌🤠
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After owning both imo the psvr2 was and is overhyped and overrated and if it ever has a redesign I would much prefer pancake lenses and built in speakers on the vr2
Pancake lenses for the win!
It seems like you just don’t like VR. The OLED screen giving all blacks is superior to the lcd screen on Quest 3. I wish the Quest 3 had OLED screens.
@@Marco-em2in have both the quest 2 and 3 just prefer them over psvr2,vr is very good 👍
@@jamiepoulton5584 I have all 3 too. I can understand you preferring them over PSVR2 but calling the PSVR2 overhyped why are you so mad at it lol. Like Besides a little extra clarity on the Quest 3 really my Quest 2 do almost everything the same I’m not wowed by the Quest 3 to justify keeping them and the accessories are expensive as heck. For me the PSVR 2 tied with the PS5 offers a more different experience better for gaming in my opinion. The exclusive PS VR tittles are more impressive than the games on the Quest. The OLED screens in my opinion offer a better experience when watching content or playing games due to the black levels.
@@Marco-em2in not mad at it just disappointed 👍
A bunch of incoherent jibberish
Can't please everyone. 🤷♂️