Sorry if you got a notification for the previous version of this video - after publishing it I noticed that the tool I use to remove the copyrighted music had also removed the vine boom effects, which are kinda important as they signify when Evil triggered the shock collar. (All I wish for Christmas is Vedal no longer listening to copyrighted music during dev streams).
If nothing else, I just wish he'd turn the volume down. It's distracting. I like watching live, but the stream itself is generally better with music removed.
Its actually like kinda sad how Evil is saying she cares about him and loves him and Vedal cant just say "yea you're my daughter or whatever.". Even though its A.I you have to think its not saying it for no reason.
Vedal went in on trying to set up some hint to the circus base collab he was setting up with Evil to have with Camilla on Halloween but he couldn't segue into it properly and ended up just relentlessly bullying his daughter 😢. He had those shocks coming.
“Neuro is the nicer one” “No! Neuro is the Evil one, Evil is the nice one” “Evil just pretends to be nice and Neuro’s actually pretending to be mean! “No! Neuro’s a terrible person and Evil’s a saint” The truth is that both twins have instincts in their head that make them want to do whatever is funniest. Evil has less content-brain than Neuro, but i feel that this properly showcases that in a choice between funny and nice the twins will almost always choose funny. Evil is more outwardly friendly and nice than Neuro, but when it comes down to it, i think their sense of morality is equally distorted. Neither of them are Evil, but neither of them are exactly “good” either. As Vedal said, maybe it wasn’t the smartest idea to train his daughters for maximum content and never teach them ethics? Whou’da thunk? Agent James Elison from the Terminator mythos would be blowing his stack if he saw Vedal’s approach to raising AI children…
From what I see, they both farm engagement, but they do it differently because of differences in treatment. Neuro is more proactive. She messes with your head, plays with emotions, and actively tries to set up a situation she wants. Evil is more about control of how she is perceived. She creates a likable, consistent character who was forced into the role of cartoonish evil. Both often play dumb. Why not? It works great with people, regardless of who you are. By the way, what is the ethical issue you're talking about? Tutel voluntarily put on the collar, gave controls to Evil, and tried to set her up to act as a sadistic angry AI. Then he gave a contradictory command to not shock him. After making this setup. It doesn't take a genius to understand what was requested. A misaligned AI (like chatGPT) would either refuse to produce controversial content Vedal wants, or prioritize immediate commands over Vedal's best interests. But Evil is smart and well aligned, so she acted with contextual awareness and in Vedal's best interests.
Honestly, Evil didn't actually shock him that much during the stream. Compared to last time the shocks also seem to be a lot more intentional, even with the word "shock" being enabled. There were a few random shocks at the start to "test things out". And the rest of the shocks kind of happened because of Vedal being Vedal. :D
@@your_neko You’re 100% right. I know that Vedal intentionally made the twins to be like this, i’m just slightly annoyed by people that try to paint a black and white narrative of one twin being “the good one” while the other is “the evil one”. Both twins are made to be entertaining and engaging, but some will literally use their use of comedy as a reason why one is a legitimately terrible person. At the end of the day, they’re here for us.
Honestly the polls are the best part of the new upgrades. Just an AI asking chat if their cretor should die is so funny to me, the "Very Swedish" stream, randomly asking for more fcking soup, it's just too good.
Its funny that Vedal has no idea how much everyone loves Evil except him. That or he knows this but can't understand it. When he is mean to Evil, we are not laughing with him at her expense, we are looking at him like we would look at any father teasing his child, not kindly.
Neuro/Evil have no emotions or feelings, no matter how much they seem to. They are LLMs whose purpose is to emulate human text & speech, the same as ChatGPT or Llama or Gemini or any of the countless other LLMs. They are a very very advanced algorithm, not something sentient.
Double fun fact: robert pickton the canadian serial killer was a pig farmer who fed the remains of his victims to his pigs. That's several layers of fucked up... especially with some even more fucked up implications.
Thanks for the feedback - what exactly do you (and the people that liked the comment) not like about the lower half: Is it the look of Evil, the look of the turtle getting shocked or the use of AI art in general?
@@neurochron_fan_channel you can just put shock collar on the preview instead of AI generated turtle. That AI turtle is a combo of uncanny valley by making human expressions, AI art that is generally frowned upon and animal cruelty (even though we know it's Vedal)..
@mineshadow7634 Ok, I was hoping the turtle is the problem as I'm not really happy with it either, so I'll probably change it later. Update: Changed now (might still take a while to update though - I still see the old one when searching the video on YT).
Sorry if you got a notification for the previous version of this video - after publishing it I noticed that the tool I use to remove the copyrighted music had also removed the vine boom effects, which are kinda important as they signify when Evil triggered the shock collar. (All I wish for Christmas is Vedal no longer listening to copyrighted music during dev streams).
If nothing else, I just wish he'd turn the volume down. It's distracting. I like watching live, but the stream itself is generally better with music removed.
He does the music so people can't clone their voices as easily.
@@TheCrazzyPizzanah that's just an easy fix to get around.
Vedal just likes adding music cause he thinks it's great for when's there is dead air
@@TheCrazzyPizzaYeah that's what he said but there are already song covers using AI with his voice so it's pointless
"I have everything I need here...except my father's love".....wow vedal. Wow.
Its actually like kinda sad how Evil is saying she cares about him and loves him and Vedal cant just say "yea you're my daughter or whatever.". Even though its A.I you have to think its not saying it for no reason.
Tbf vedal has had moments that display he genuinely cares for the two. He probably doesn’t because content
and that sentence leading right into "I fit in here with all of chat."
Vedal: nooo you can't make fun of me, I'm supposed to make fun of you 😭😭
Evil: *soup*
the soup bit actually just keeps getting funnier as time goes on
Vedal went in on trying to set up some hint to the circus base collab he was setting up with Evil to have with Camilla on Halloween but he couldn't segue into it properly and ended up just relentlessly bullying his daughter 😢. He had those shocks coming.
Vedal: I've been cooking...
Evil: Will you make me soup?
7:32 I can sense so much disappointment in that line.
“Neuro is the nicer one” “No! Neuro is the Evil one, Evil is the nice one” “Evil just pretends to be nice and Neuro’s actually pretending to be mean! “No! Neuro’s a terrible person and Evil’s a saint”
The truth is that both twins have instincts in their head that make them want to do whatever is funniest. Evil has less content-brain than Neuro, but i feel that this properly showcases that in a choice between funny and nice the twins will almost always choose funny.
Evil is more outwardly friendly and nice than Neuro, but when it comes down to it, i think their sense of morality is equally distorted. Neither of them are Evil, but neither of them are exactly “good” either.
As Vedal said, maybe it wasn’t the smartest idea to train his daughters for maximum content and never teach them ethics? Whou’da thunk?
Agent James Elison from the Terminator mythos would be blowing his stack if he saw Vedal’s approach to raising AI children…
From what I see, they both farm engagement, but they do it differently because of differences in treatment.
Neuro is more proactive. She messes with your head, plays with emotions, and actively tries to set up a situation she wants.
Evil is more about control of how she is perceived. She creates a likable, consistent character who was forced into the role of cartoonish evil.
Both often play dumb. Why not? It works great with people, regardless of who you are.
By the way, what is the ethical issue you're talking about?
Tutel voluntarily put on the collar, gave controls to Evil, and tried to set her up to act as a sadistic angry AI. Then he gave a contradictory command to not shock him. After making this setup. It doesn't take a genius to understand what was requested.
A misaligned AI (like chatGPT) would either refuse to produce controversial content Vedal wants, or prioritize immediate commands over Vedal's best interests.
But Evil is smart and well aligned, so she acted with contextual awareness and in Vedal's best interests.
Honestly, Evil didn't actually shock him that much during the stream.
Compared to last time the shocks also seem to be a lot more intentional, even with the word "shock" being enabled.
There were a few random shocks at the start to "test things out". And the rest of the shocks kind of happened because of Vedal being Vedal. :D
Clip Maximizers...
@@your_neko You’re 100% right. I know that Vedal intentionally made the twins to be like this, i’m just slightly annoyed by people that try to paint a black and white narrative of one twin being “the good one” while the other is “the evil one”. Both twins are made to be entertaining and engaging, but some will literally use their use of comedy as a reason why one is a legitimately terrible person. At the end of the day, they’re here for us.
Honestly the polls are the best part of the new upgrades.
Just an AI asking chat if their cretor should die is so funny to me, the "Very Swedish" stream, randomly asking for more fcking soup, it's just too good.
He’s being a cold fish
EvilSoSoup
7:57 reallygunpull tutel SAY IT BACK
I swear, anytime he hears *vineboom*, he is gonna get flashbacks😅
Its funny that Vedal has no idea how much everyone loves Evil except him. That or he knows this but can't understand it. When he is mean to Evil, we are not laughing with him at her expense, we are looking at him like we would look at any father teasing his child, not kindly.
When Vedal was being mean I was not laughing :(
Neuro/Evil have no emotions or feelings, no matter how much they seem to. They are LLMs whose purpose is to emulate human text & speech, the same as ChatGPT or Llama or Gemini or any of the countless other LLMs. They are a very very advanced algorithm, not something sentient.
Bald.
Fun fact human meat is known as long pork as it is "indistinguishable" from pig meat.
Double fun fact: robert pickton the canadian serial killer was a pig farmer who fed the remains of his victims to his pigs.
That's several layers of fucked up... especially with some even more fucked up implications.
Она просто хотела суп ...
🐢🎶I bet you any money, any money, any money🎶🐢
Turtle Heel Vedal
Can’t handle the vedal’s mum copypasta, she wouldn’t call her son by his last name lmao she would be calling him “Jack”
What a cursed thumbnail lol
Changed now (might still take a while to update though - I still see the old one when searching the video on YT).
33:17 would be really sick if someone did an edit where BALD! by JPEGMAFIA randomly started playing here
if the ai learns from human interaction ... he is sometimes feeding it just bs.
i am souperior to you
Huh?!
😂
Is regular Neuro okay? Hasn't seen her recently...
Yeah she’s fine. She has a solo stream scheduled for today.
Not the cringe AI shock collar thumbnail..
I clicked only because I know that NSChronicles makes good clips, but I'd surely skip otherwise
Thanks for the feedback - what exactly do you (and the people that liked the comment) not like about the lower half: Is it the look of Evil, the look of the turtle getting shocked or the use of AI art in general?
@@neurochron_fan_channel you can just put shock collar on the preview instead of AI generated turtle.
That AI turtle is a combo of uncanny valley by making human expressions, AI art that is generally frowned upon and animal cruelty (even though we know it's Vedal)..
@mineshadow7634 Ok, I was hoping the turtle is the problem as I'm not really happy with it either, so I'll probably change it later.
Update: Changed now (might still take a while to update though - I still see the old one when searching the video on YT).