S-Bahn vs U-Bahn vs Stadtbahn: What's the difference?

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @matthewfair9195
    @matthewfair9195 4 роки тому +32

    "think northern rail but if it was actually good"

  • @shanizee4960
    @shanizee4960 4 роки тому +50

    Hey! I'm from Germany. The "U-Bahn" is like the underground in London, but in Frankfurt it can also drive above ground. The "S-Bahn" is like a regional train but drives oftener. The "Straßenbahn" is like a tram. In Germany it is also called Tram. The "Stadtbahn" is a mixture of "U-Bahn" and "Straßenbahn". Please excuse my bad English.

    • @lp4michi406
      @lp4michi406 4 роки тому +6

      Technically, the Frankfurt „U-Bahn“ isn’t a U-Bahn due to have some parts not separated from the street. The „U“ does not stand for „underground“ more likely its for „unabhängig“ (indenpendeant). All four classic U-Bahn-Systems have parts running overground but as time progresses they became less and less.

    • @kuanysh_sartay
      @kuanysh_sartay 3 роки тому +2

      S-Bahn is not commuter rail only it is better to call it "urban-commuter rail". Because, in Germany and France commuter rail is a train service from main train stations to far suburbs which lies about 50-200 km from the city. As an example, far suburbs of Berlin serves by DB Regio, close suburbs by S-Bahn. In Paris close suburbs in a distance of 20-50 km from the city serves by RER, far suburbs by Transilien, which is definitely commuter rail. Metro or subway(U-Bahn) is easy and understandable, serves only or usually city's administrative borders, have separated infrastructure than conventional rail. It is important to know.

    • @connectingwings7212
      @connectingwings7212 3 роки тому +1

      @@kuanysh_sartay Every U-Bahn System in Germany runs outside it's city borders, with Berlin being an exception because for the reunification, they moved the Border to exactly contain the Hönow U-Bahn station in Berlin.

    • @ThomasTuttle
      @ThomasTuttle Рік тому

      Ihr Englisch ist ganz gut. Vielen Dank fuer die Erklaerungen. Das hatte ich schon gedacht.

    • @LucaFuchs2
      @LucaFuchs2 Рік тому

      Welch ein Zufall ich komme aus ringeln an der a2😂

  • @harryscorah2091
    @harryscorah2091 4 роки тому +20

    So in Germany it’s far more structured and logical... ...and far more random and confusing. 🤔

  • @matthiashartge5520
    @matthiashartge5520 2 роки тому +2

    As rewboss one put it: "U-Bahn trains usually run underground, except in those places where they don't; S-Bahn train usually run on main line tracks, except in those places where they don't, and so on..." ^^

  • @Zugzielanzeiger
    @Zugzielanzeiger 4 роки тому +23

    As a German train fan I can say: Good explainations!

    • @Matxeex
      @Matxeex 3 роки тому

      Hi, Some trains are about to arrive from Germany to my city, which are remanufactured can you help me and tell me what model is it ? facebook.com/MetrorreyOficial/photos/pcb.1485120725026864/1485120625026874

    • @Matxeex
      @Matxeex 3 роки тому

      i did some research and the only info i found was BVG-Baureihe F but im not sure.

    • @Zugzielanzeiger
      @Zugzielanzeiger 3 роки тому +2

      @@Matxeex Which country/city?

    • @Matxeex
      @Matxeex 3 роки тому

      @@Zugzielanzeiger Monterrey, Nuevo León, México.

    • @Zugzielanzeiger
      @Zugzielanzeiger 3 роки тому +2

      @@Matxeex I will do some research.

  • @patrickjones1143
    @patrickjones1143 4 роки тому +2

    Simply brilliant video for anyone going to Germany and using public transport

  • @KnowledgeOfAviation
    @KnowledgeOfAviation 4 роки тому +11

    Lol I am literally staying at the station seen at 2:07 right now.

  • @mariusmika
    @mariusmika 4 роки тому +6

    I’d love to see a video about the Karlsruhe Stadtbahn. :)

    • @DavidFrankal
      @DavidFrankal  4 роки тому +1

      Stay tuned! Should be out next week :)

  • @DC4260Productions
    @DC4260Productions 4 роки тому +4

    The only European mass-transit system I'm familiar with is the Frankfurt U-Bahn, and that's solely from driving on the system in Train Simulator.
    It's certainly weird seeing the mix of underground and street running in Frankfurt. Heck, there's even an above-ground section out near a university that has rails very sturdily laid on the grass without any sleepers.
    I think there was also a stand-alone game a few years ago that was focused on one of the U-Bahn lines in Berlin. I didn't really care for it because the route is entirely underground, and I like having short sections above ground on an otherwise underground line.

    • @DavidFrankal
      @DavidFrankal  4 роки тому

      I know the Frankfurt U-Bahn from living in the city for six years! It was strange going back after all that time.

  • @transportationuk7656
    @transportationuk7656 4 роки тому +3

    Look at the top left. Same design as the C5000s for Manchester Metrolink. Bombardier Transportation if I’m correct.

    • @bananaman432
      @bananaman432 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly what I thought

    • @DavidFrankal
      @DavidFrankal  4 роки тому +1

      The Cologne trams are known as the "K5000", the Metrolink trams are "M5000". They're almost identical in design!

    • @transportationuk7656
      @transportationuk7656 4 роки тому

      David Frankal Well I knew it was 5000 something. I remember now. I know the old trams were the T68 series.

  • @ThomasTuttle
    @ThomasTuttle Рік тому +1

    The basic difference between U-Bahn and S-Bahn systems is that U-Bahn networks belong to the city's public transport networks, where national and multinational rail tickets are not valid. It's like trying to use a BritRail pass or ticket on the London Tube.....2 different companies, and 2 different functions and fares. On the other hand German, Austrian and Swiss S-Bahn trains are owned and operated by the national rail systems of those nations. That means that national and multinational rail tickets and passes are accepted on S-Bahns. It's like taking a BritRail train from London's Victoria station to Gatwick airport. S = national rail, while U = city transport. Strassenbahn, Tram, Trolley, Buses all belong to the city's transport networks, so national rail tickets are not valid on these.

  • @DanielsUKT
    @DanielsUKT 4 роки тому +6

    Nice video explaining different metro systems in Germany but still a bit confusing

  • @bowlerstuff9589
    @bowlerstuff9589 3 роки тому +1

    The Berlin/Hamburg S bahn systems look like metros because they use Third rail systems instead of the usual overhead wires

  • @robertcarroll4733
    @robertcarroll4733 3 роки тому

    DS: Thank you for the speedy reply, you generate so much content its hard to keep up with U or is it S,oh well you understand even if I don't....lol

  • @britishfilmguy
    @britishfilmguy 4 роки тому +7

    Seems like the German train network is alot more complicated, good vodeo though 👍

    • @britishfilmguy
      @britishfilmguy 3 роки тому +1

      @Şahin Portakal cool probably the easiest way to do it.

  • @ЕвгенийСимонов-т1в
    @ЕвгенийСимонов-т1в 2 роки тому +2

    0:59 Frankfurt U-Bahn: Am I joke for you?

  • @jmstransit
    @jmstransit 4 роки тому +2

    Lol meanwhile in Tokyo (and Japan as a whole) you cant tell the difference between subway and commuter rail just by looking at the design of the cars

    • @kuanysh_sartay
      @kuanysh_sartay 3 роки тому +1

      Ahahahah, yeah. Even Japanese call it just "rail transport" not confuse with metro or commuter rail it is)) But, I can say that in Tokyo's metro(subway) serves only the city of Tokyo and mostly underground with different infrastructure. While are trains of JR and other companies are "urban-commuter rail". Japanese didn't separated it as urban and commuter rail like Germans and French did.

  • @kaifriedrich1763
    @kaifriedrich1763 4 роки тому

    Good Video

  • @juliusammelung9746
    @juliusammelung9746 3 роки тому

    Legally, many metros are actually operated as trams (e.g. in Berlin).

    • @cbltrains1368
      @cbltrains1368 Рік тому

      They are classified in the BOstrab (operation law for trams) but the signalling is a copy paste of the EBO (Railway operation law)

    • @juliusammelung9746
      @juliusammelung9746 Рік тому

      @@cbltrains1368 I would not say that the signaling system is copy paste. Obviously there are a lot of similarities, but there are also significant differences to normal railroads (EBO), particularly with regard to the distant signals. The differences are in the details.

  • @Ph1l7554
    @Ph1l7554 2 роки тому +1

    Eh the Straßen Bahn actually mean tram

  • @TramBusTV
    @TramBusTV 3 роки тому

    💪 cool

  • @lindsayhengehold5341
    @lindsayhengehold5341 2 роки тому +1

    Love the S Bahn!

  • @sobu_hasy
    @sobu_hasy Рік тому

    In Frankfurt not so much, after German standards, it's considered a Stadtbahn. But in reality only the U5 line is trully a Stadtbahn with street-level running. Other lines runs in a manner pretty similar with the Tyne and Wear Metro. And the length of the trains are truly metro-style (100m, which is not a light-rail length, more a heavy-rail line). And by the way, the U-Bahn systems in Germany (even those third-rail ones like in Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Nuremberg) are, basically, legally light rails (they operate under the BOStrab, which is a law made for light-rail vehicles like Straßenbahn, Stadtbahn, U-Bahn and APM) while the heavy-rail vehicles, like those on the S-Bahn (including those in third-rail operation like Berlin and Hamburg), Regional, freight and ICE trains runs on the mainline train law, called EBO.
    That means, that the only heavy-rail (sub-)urban rail transit system (just like the London Underground) in Germany is the S-Bahn.

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe 4 роки тому

    I like this video. Just something about the S-Bahn; a real S-Bahn is a commuter rail system entirely separated from other rail services even if they run along the same lines. The first network’s had all a 3. rail for electricity by the side of the tracks to make a difference to normal trains with overhead wire . They run on 500-700 V DC. For example Berlin, Hamburg . Later,by extension, the meaning changed to a kind of Suburban Rail System’s.
    S-Bahn=“Quick Rail”... Oh, for the Berlin S-Bahn: you forgot to mention the circle ⭕️ around the City...

    • @DavidFrankal
      @DavidFrankal  4 роки тому

      I'm making a full video about the Berlin S-Bahn soon, don't worry, the Ringbahn will be mentioned!

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Місяць тому

      Not all S-Bahn systems have their own tracks, Berlin and Hamburg do, but most do not

    • @aoilpe
      @aoilpe Місяць тому

      @@grassytramtracks
      So what ?
      You read the debut of my comment ?
      Just the 3 or 4 first lines ?
      Who built the first S-Bahn ?

  • @irgendjemand3939
    @irgendjemand3939 4 роки тому +1

    Btw, in Karlsruhe, it’s not Stadtbahn, it’s S-Bahn (it also has the Green S Logo)

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Місяць тому

      It's called the Stadtbahn even though the stations on the mainlines outside the city have the S-Bahn logo, like how there's the U-bahn logo at Stadtbahn stations. What it's branded as isn't necessarily what it is

  • @OrechTV
    @OrechTV 7 місяців тому

    S-Bahn is Stadtbahn, isnt it? 😂

  • @5mnz7fg
    @5mnz7fg 3 роки тому

    I think the London tube, having originally emerged from railways, is much more S-Bahn like than Geman U-Bahn networks. These are more orientated to trams or light railways than to true railways.

    • @haisheauspforte1632
      @haisheauspforte1632 3 роки тому

      No, you are talking the Stadtbahn, confusingly called U Bahn in Frankfurt and some other places. Real U-Bahns are only in Hamburg, Berlin, Nuremberg and München and they are just like the London Underground

    • @5mnz7fg
      @5mnz7fg 3 роки тому

      @@haisheauspforte1632 Nope, they are not. Also "real" German U-bahns have no connections to true railway tracks and never had. This is different to London Underground where some common tracks and platforms are still shared. Forthermore, every German U-Bahn is legally in the same category as trams and not defined as a railway. Even if they are more similar to railways as they are to trams.

    • @haisheauspforte1632
      @haisheauspforte1632 3 роки тому

      @@5mnz7fg but this is not the defining feature of U-Bahns and S-Bahns. Even though the U-Bahns are legally trams, they are real metros, just as the Underground. S-Bahns are more like Themselink/Crossrail/Overground when compared to London.

    • @5mnz7fg
      @5mnz7fg 3 роки тому

      @@haisheauspforte1632 Yes, London Overground (or Mersey Rail in the Liverpol area) is an equivalent to a German S-Bahn but like I said:
      London Underground has historically emerged from railways, and the first lines were considered as railways. To this day, they too strongly resemble an S-Bahn system (especially the sub surface lines) more so than German subways at any rate.

  • @telboy4227
    @telboy4227 4 роки тому +1

    Don't forget the O-Bahn BUS lanes in Adelaide!!

  • @saptarshichowdhury9138
    @saptarshichowdhury9138 3 роки тому

    Americans - what planet is this 🧐..??

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Місяць тому +1

      Nah, Brits are wondering what planet this is, Americans are wondering what galaxy this is