African treasures belong in Africa it's not yours what do you need it for? Your so superior why don't you have any of your own great treasures from caves of the Caucasus Mountains to show to the world?
They need it for money! They make trillions out of these treasures artifacts. This is makes me angry it doesn't what African saw these things as they effing created wtf? Agh
Lol. The dude said “ in Africa these artifacts were not considered arts. It’s now arts because French say it’s art”. Reason like this is why Africa don’t need you help.
Basically, something is only something when the white man says its something a crime is a crime when a white man says its a crime, big booty on a woman is only beautiful when the white man declare it as beautiful, so big lips, something is an art when the white man says its an art. And of course, they created those arts just so they can disappear makes perfect sense to me. Btw I know when I say, a white man, I don't mean all white men bc I know that a lot of European will agree that those arts belong to Africans. That guy may not mean or be aware of what he said but he sounds like a white supremacist bc the same arguments can be made with natural resources well we are taking them bc you don't know what it is or what to do with it. No its call theft and then the same people make arguments that Africans do not have histories or culture
"Yes. We took the artifacts. Yes we took them by force. But we they belong in France. But we can lend it to you." This is so infuriating that its funny. You can`t steal my table and tell me it was meant to disappear.
I would be ashamed to be french hearing him lie for nothing, I'm sure he'll be fine if he finds a new job and returns what was stolen. Even if it was a while ago 🤷🏾♂️🤷♂️
He said "It's Art because Europeans put it in museums. In Africa it wasnt meant as art, it was meant to dissappear." This is the modern face of racism. Dressed up as being reasonable.
The audacity, arrogance and lack or moral decency I saw displayed by this fellow is pathetic at best. You steal, THEN put laws into place to protect your behavior. Your time will come
Africans we need to not ask but demand they give our artwork back any European country the UK France Belgium Spain any country that has African art that is stolen needs to give it back now!! ✊🏾✊🏾
well well, a well-educated Westerner there with mocking and condescending tone, little cultural sensitivity and white savior complex justifying the looting of artworks by colonial power and whether Africa has proper museums!! Shame on you Didier Rykner..
Sir. You are so arrogant in saying that we didn't know this is art and it was meant to disappear. Really? Everything has got time things will fall in its place
By "stolen" do you mean that the works were taken by force away from a legitimate owner who wanted to keep them and was angry or saddened when they were taken away? Or do you mean that the Europeans took unfair advantage of education and political hegemony to carry out a one-sided bargain?
@@rourinishein I was not intending to "justify the means." Rather I was asking for a more precise definition of "stealing"--something more specific than "stealing is stealing." For example, would you consider the acquisition of the Elgin Marbles as "stealing" or "purchasing"? Is there a statute of limitations on Acquiring art? Because there is definitely a statute of limitations on Theft.
Lol the insulting part "we will bring the artifacts to africa... Show them to you all.... Take it on a road show in a roadshow... But you can only look. But you can't touch"
So we are capable of learning the skill, work that skill to produce splendid art but cannot know how to preserve it? Do you realize how daft you are? We do not know what museums are???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!!!!!
Oh dear , Coal companies do not believe in global warming,and museum curators do not believe in the repatriation of stolen/looted art, Quelle surprise, I suppose a museum director with a conscience would get fired, There is alas no connection between a love of high culture and ethics/morality, Goering loved Vermeer Rembrandt Wagner Bruckner
I just had to watch this for my Anthropology class and I am so infuriated. This french man arguing France has the right to keep them is obviously holding bias and is a bafoon. F---- him... return the art!!
We need to smash that glass and take our stuff back. In Chicago they put our stolen stuff all the way in the back, so we have to pass by all the crap to get out with it or just because they think we belong in the back. Yes, Mexican art comes before our stolen art.
Why should the world be entitled to share somebody else's stuff. I like the energy but how bout we set a camera up n yo house and go live for the world to see jus cuz u got nice things??😒
How many of us here demanded for the art pieces before the announcement was made. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if the French president didn’t volunteer to give back the arts. Until you fight for what belongs to you, zip up your ego.
Looting and stealing are the same but the truth is that France want to make restitution please is allowed I love you all france citizens cos you love all African people
~Mr. Didier look very Arrogant, rober and greedy. ~Everything will be back to Africa where it belongs. ~Africa don’t need France’s help. it is France who needs Africa’s help.
Stuff the Elgin marbles, greece wants its whole city back from the Turks. Going on about a few pieces of art when constantinople was taken and is still claimed by the turks.
@@MJosef-jo8py the elgin marbles are from Athens, so hence they are Greek and we want our city back from the Turks. When can we justice and get our land and city back. While they are at it, we need to get the Turks to apologise for genocide.
@@MJosef-jo8py Also you go on about stolen heritage and yet in Rome there is a massive triumphal arch commemorating the saking of Jerusalem and the plunder of the temple in 79AD. It also gets complicated because The Greeks and the Engilsh are cousins, so actually The English have only got some of the family heirlooms for safe keeping. As for African art, you can just take it. Just tell them that Graham has said it's ok.
Thieves running out of lies !!!!!!!
African treasures belong in Africa it's not yours what do you need it for? Your so superior why don't you have any of your own great treasures from caves of the Caucasus Mountains to show to the world?
They need it for money! They make trillions out of these treasures artifacts. This is makes me angry it doesn't what African saw these things as they effing created wtf? Agh
I'm baffled at the fact that they have put in laws and made reports to justify their stealing😂. Such wicked people.
Our ancestors were not stupid when they made these artifacts. They knew their value and wanted us to enjoy them. So, we want our stuff back!!!
Africa have the best piece of art in the world... those art pieces should be in Africa yah thief
lmao did this dude just say Africans are incapable of appreciating or even recognizing their own creation as art
THE BLOODY NERVE!!! WHAT BALLS!!!
Lol. The dude said “ in Africa these artifacts were not considered arts. It’s now arts because French say it’s art”.
Reason like this is why Africa don’t need you help.
“You cannot stop.” Good, don’t stop until those museums are empty.
Basically, something is only something when the white man says its something a crime is a crime when a white man says its a crime, big booty on a woman is only beautiful when the white man declare it as beautiful, so big lips, something is an art when the white man says its an art. And of course, they created those arts just so they can disappear makes perfect sense to me. Btw I know when I say, a white man, I don't mean all white men bc I know that a lot of European will agree that those arts belong to Africans. That guy may not mean or be aware of what he said but he sounds like a white supremacist bc the same arguments can be made with natural resources well we are taking them bc you don't know what it is or what to do with it. No its call theft and then the same people make arguments that Africans do not have histories or culture
"Yes. We took the artifacts. Yes we took them by force. But we they belong in France. But we can lend it to you." This is so infuriating that its funny. You can`t steal my table and tell me it was meant to disappear.
I would be ashamed to be french hearing him lie for nothing, I'm sure he'll be fine if he finds a new job and returns what was stolen. Even if it was a while ago 🤷🏾♂️🤷♂️
Would would we feel ashamed this dude doesnt represent nothing but himself, and certainly not france
Europeans and morality just can’t be mentioned in the sentence
They’re called AFRICAN artefacts for a REASON.
The most annoying part about this debate is that it shouldn't even be a debate. The art was stolen! Return it.
He said "It's Art because Europeans put it in museums. In Africa it wasnt meant as art, it was meant to dissappear."
This is the modern face of racism. Dressed up as being reasonable.
Arrogant fools, whether it was considered art or not ito did not belong to you.
EXACTLY!!! THE BALLS
U WILL HAND IT OVER, IT NO LONGER MATTERS WHAT LOGIC U COOK UP.
The audacity, arrogance and lack or moral decency I saw displayed by this fellow is pathetic at best.
You steal, THEN put laws into place to protect your behavior. Your time will come
What angers me is that 50s from now they will claim its there's
@@MJosef-jo8py you know it...
Just like they did with Egyptians
It's called KARMA
When has looting ever been legal?
We know africa can't take care of it's treasures because we stole them!!
LOGIC And DECENCY have left the chat...
I guess these artefacts are haunting them now they are reconsidering returning it to Africa where it belongs.
I hope they are. KARMA has its way of showing you
Africans we need to not ask but demand they give our artwork back any European country the UK France Belgium Spain any country that has African art that is stolen needs to give it back now!! ✊🏾✊🏾
well well, a well-educated Westerner there with mocking and condescending tone, little cultural sensitivity and white savior complex justifying the looting of artworks by colonial power and whether Africa has proper museums!! Shame on you Didier Rykner..
The Europeans said that they didn't steal, they discovered
“Stealing is legal” wow France is getting better and better at lying 🤥 😂😂😂
Sir. You are so arrogant in saying that we didn't know this is art and it was meant to disappear. Really? Everything has got time things will fall in its place
Listen Africa! Put a spell on your artefacts and everything will be sent back.
They belong to whom they were stolen from.
By "stolen" do you mean that the works were taken by force away from a legitimate owner who wanted to keep them and was angry or saddened when they were taken away?
Or do you mean that the Europeans took unfair advantage of education and political hegemony to carry out a one-sided bargain?
@@rossklatte7073No matter how you justify the means stealing is stealing. Whats wrong with displaying their own art?
@@rourinishein I was not intending to "justify the means." Rather I was asking for a more precise definition of "stealing"--something more specific than "stealing is stealing." For example, would you consider the acquisition of the Elgin Marbles as "stealing" or "purchasing"? Is there a statute of limitations on Acquiring art? Because there is definitely a statute of limitations on Theft.
@@rossklatte7073 some kingdoms where raided, kings killed and artefacts taken.
u can keep it if u do not want to maintain a relationship with Africa and u will hand it over.
criminals have no sense of loyalty
This guy needs a Hi 👋🏾 across his face..
ITS NOT YOURS, PERIOD... IT DOESNT MATTER, NOTHING YOU SAY MATTERS BCUZ ITS NOT YOURS!!!!
OBADIAH European the gentils nation will pay judgment from the most hight
They won't dare admit that everything stolen should be returned
Devils are going to pay
What have I just watched??
Truth
He is a thief Give those arts back to African and if you want see them take a ticket and go see them in Africa 8
It wasn't art, but it was art, but not art.
the word “rules” should’ve never came out of his mouth,, those artifacts were stolen immorally so shut up with ur rules
Lol the insulting part "we will bring the artifacts to africa... Show them to you all.... Take it on a road show in a roadshow... But you can only look. But you can't touch"
He said it's the law, who's law?
Looting and stealing are the same. Boo
We don't want any help from thieves
He suggested to lend back stolen items.
Give it back and yes it was stolen
so I can come to his house and steal his stuff legally???as long as I start a museum and put it on display 🤔
Those African Artifacts belong to the African People, not to looters, stop making excuses for thievery
So you are going to lean African art back to them this is unbelievable and he really believe what he is saying…he says the art was meant to disappear
What is this dude talking about? The art was meant to disappear? Thieves all over
he's such a tongue twisting fool
So we are capable of learning the skill, work that skill to produce splendid art but cannot know how to preserve it? Do you realize how daft you are? We do not know what museums are???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!!!!!
This is painful to watch.
Oh dear , Coal companies do not believe in global warming,and museum curators do not believe in the repatriation of stolen/looted art, Quelle surprise, I suppose a museum director with a conscience would get fired, There is alas no connection between a love of high culture and ethics/morality, Goering loved Vermeer Rembrandt Wagner Bruckner
I just had to watch this for my Anthropology class and I am so infuriated. This french man arguing France has the right to keep them is obviously holding bias and is a bafoon. F---- him... return the art!!
We do not need your help! We just want our art back. Make your own
He says it doesn't belong them did you buy them to make it yours
How do you ask such a question. It’s like me holding a title deed of your house and asking who does this house truly belong to .
Wait what?😂
it's like stealing my car keys. offering to give me a ride in my car. yet, I can't have the keys back. mend you I was charged for the ride given.
We need to smash that glass and take our stuff back. In Chicago they put our stolen stuff all the way in the back, so we have to pass by all the crap to get out with it or just because they think we belong in the back. Yes, Mexican art comes before our stolen art.
Mexico art was looted too.
Theives don't discriminate.
That's right give it all back. Put a museum 3d cyber and give all world children access online.
I loke that idea and all the proceeds go to those African countries.
sally forth
Fortunately french people, you seem ignorants. The future will look very bad for you.
Why should the world be entitled to share somebody else's stuff. I like the energy but how bout we set a camera up n yo house and go live for the world to see jus cuz u got nice things??😒
How many of us here demanded for the art pieces before the announcement was made. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if the French president didn’t volunteer to give back the arts. Until you fight for what belongs to you, zip up your ego.
That's like saying a woman's vagina belongs to a man that wants it. Looting of wars were never legal.
Why not put your own culture on display ?
You don't have any shame ,we are begging to have our artefacts back
Looting and stealing are the same but the truth is that France want to make restitution please is allowed I love you all france citizens cos you love all African people
Don’t fool yourself
From the way he sounds looting = legal that means it would be legal to get them back by force irrespective of the means.
Who makes the rules?
This is the most cringe interview I have ever watched!
This guy is disrespectful and I think Africans must go and take back their arts by force..This fool need to be dealt with accordingly
How shameful and ignorant. Make your own Art and history
The Nerve!!!!!
He is also a thief
Devils you disconnecting our heritage
Wtf did I just hear???
You stole the art from Afrika then you are saying it does not belong to you us?
~Mr. Didier look very Arrogant, rober and greedy.
~Everything will be back to Africa where it belongs.
~Africa don’t need France’s help. it is France who needs Africa’s help.
Poor arguments . If a country has the installations to preserve the artifacts they should go back
They should go back without any qualifications, period. They are NOT yours.
Not with Europeans.... Simple
The same France who are charging Africa for slavery in 2020. Haha this guy is a fool tryna justify and not making sense.
This guy is unbelievable you stole now you must return
It's all nice until a civil war breaks out and then the artifacts get destroyed.
You act like you never had cuvil war in your history.
@@markgtv56 Well my country never had a civil war so no.
The audacity to say that when French citizens are literally looting in the streets and vandalizing public property.
doesn't matter it still their own properties
Oba-gha-tokperee
Isee
Must see them. Museum.
you dont stop at all you return it all.other wide its hypocracy.
Theif I'm actually gonna KMS🤙
Edom Easer TAKE everthing OBADIAH JUDGEMENT for Europeans they go to far
La pota lekhooa !
Stuff the Elgin marbles, greece wants its whole city back from the Turks. Going on about a few pieces of art when constantinople was taken and is still claimed by the turks.
Wise guy those pieces of art tell our history not Greece and we need them more than ever be4 they claim that was of France's ancient history
@@MJosef-jo8py the elgin marbles are from Athens, so hence they are Greek and we want our city back from the Turks. When can we justice and get our land and city back. While they are at it, we need to get the Turks to apologise for genocide.
@@grahamt5924 I thought those marbles where in the UK who else would have stolen heritage
@@MJosef-jo8py I was just pointing out that we are going on about a few pieces of art and Turkey has taken a whole city. Which would you prefer back?
@@MJosef-jo8py Also you go on about stolen heritage and yet in Rome there is a massive triumphal arch commemorating the saking of Jerusalem and the plunder of the temple in 79AD.
It also gets complicated because The Greeks and the Engilsh are cousins, so actually The English have only got some of the family heirlooms for safe keeping.
As for African art, you can just take it. Just tell them that Graham has said it's ok.
arrogant
You sound like you what's yours
sod africa . .
He is also a thief