Yo! Editing error. At 6:20 this is the belt buckle it’s meant to show. Bat-apologies, folks! www.futuremuseum.co.uk/collections/people/lives-in-key-periods/archaeology/early-medieval-%28400ad-1099ad%29/vikings/domestic/norse-belt-buckle,-whithorn.aspx
I know this is an odd place for this comment but… Would you consider reviewing historical fiction book? Just a though i had and wanted to ask before I forgot.
Next thing you know, they're gonna have a space helmet for a cow. (Reference to the 1965 Doctor Who serial 'The Time Meddler', which is set in 1066. Not historically accurate, but it was 1965.)
I think the shoulder scarf-cape is more like an unfinished poncho. Probably his wife got fed up making it and said "There! Just wear it, you great oaf. Tell them it's the latest fashion."
Maybe she meant to make a full scale poncho, but only had a long strip of fabric left, didn't want to buy more, and thus... "It'll keep your arms warm!"
I want to call it a crop poncho, but it looks like a sewing project I would have made when I was a teen. Like I didn't buy enough of a pretty and expensive fabric to make anything bigger, but was determined to make SOMETHING out of it because I loved the fabric. Good times. 😂😂😂
The other day I had a client go on and on about this show and how it was "historically accurate" and I kept hearing what you said in Bernadette's video and I was internally screaming. The struggle not to tell them was very real.
My name suggestion for the shoulder cape is "the world's worst sandwich". My second choice would be "Edna Mode's Cape Rule Work-around". Honourable mention to "the original shrug, because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "
Well, that Judoon ref is actually explaining a GREAT DEAL about this show. This isn't Vikings! It's actually aliens recreating Vikings. This is just their version of it- Thanks for the video! It's always fun to look at what's actually wrong about the costumery, rather than just 'hmm. looks bad, but I'm not sure why'
This is going to sound weird, but the shoulderpiece made of a strip of cloth & the two brooches made me think of the yoke of a Plains Indian woman's dress. It's made by taking a whole deer skin & folding it widthwise with a slit in the middle for the head, and body/legs forming the sleeves, usually left open on the underside with fringe. The body of the dress then takes two more deerhides sewn along the lower edges of the hide. I've always worked in the anthropology department of museums, and it just popped into my head as soon as I saw it.
Ah 6:00 reminds of the one thing those 50s and 60s low budget historical movies got right: COLOURS! It's like they took every advantage of the glory of technicolour while now 60 years later producers would love to go back to just black if they could (white is optional).
On the one hand, another fabulous tear-down. On the other hand, I also appreciate that you do your best to give as much credit where it might be due as you can, because unfettered unending negativity is something none of us needs nowadays.
It's nice to have you back! I wonder how much of bad costumes are lazy costume designers and how much is producers and directors overriding their original ideas. My husband and I are currently watching the early 2000s series on the 3 Musketeers and he had to tell me to ignore the costumes and watch the silly show. So I crochet and occasionally look up. I highly recommend doing needlework while "watching" poorly costumed shows.
Hey there! Wonder if I could get your opinion on a tunicy thing from a clothing company called Knit Factory? :) Not affiliated with them, just curious if I could use it for re-enactment. The dress is called "indy casual dress", it's slightly above knee-length, short sleeved, comes in bright colours.
Lol, tare away. My mothers side is mostly Welsh and I have a long interest in history but over a much wider spectrum. Specialists I always respect and love listening to them. I was briefly a member of Regia Anglorum but I had emotional and family problems and never had my own transport which you may know is a pain to get around without. Anyway, thank you for the review of the usual butchery we are subjected to by TV companies.Sorry for any grammar errors, I am recovering from a stroke.
Definitely supporting the idea of calling weird shoulder cape thing a 'shrug', its honestly the most fitting name. Also, comparing the strange cowl thing to the Jadoon is amazing and I'll never unsee it now.
Well, they'd probably be great costumes for the Renaissance Faire! At least there you don't expect things to look historically accurate. I know that none of the garb I've ever worn to one of those is anywhere near historically accurate. Just fun fantasy pieces inspired by a general historical time period... -ish. Also, you're Mom is a very talented knitter! I love the cables.
My favourite thing from the show is that Leif and Harald head off into Russia and for some reason, it's winter. And yet in Scandinavia, it's still summer! Nice mug, by the way. I want a cup of tea now. And a nice rich tea biscuit.
I miss the Northman too Jimmy. Despite it's flaws it was one of the best portrayals of medieval Scandinavians. If it helps season 2 of Vinland Saga is out.
I feel like historical costumes across the board have just become so much worse in the past decade. I'm not really sure who to blame for it, so I'm just going to take a stab in the dark and blame Game of Thrones.
According to a friend who was an extra on the series, not all the costumes were made for the show and some of them were straight up reused from Marco Polo so it would not surprise me if other series' costumes got used as well, e.g. from Netflix's Tudor-era shows (they also said that "the shoes were so fckn terrible" and "the costumes were... There")
The sword says "trikvi svertit", not sure what "trikvi" means in that context but "svertit" definitely means "the sword"... Good to have an explicit label on the item you're buying
I'm becoming a broken record on this topic at this point but...if shows don't care about being historically accurate, they should either be comedies or historically inspired fantasy. I'm willing to forgive any artistic liberties in those cases. I don't get the point of people who don't care about history making historical fiction.
I have actually seen the "raggedy sheepskin sewn together with visible thread" at a traditional Norwegian handicraft market, as made, on purpose, by an artisan. Granted, the aforementioned artisan said it was "hastily thrown together". And it had about 3 stitches per cm, not 0.8. And the object was a seat warmer where the stitches were meant to go on a chair, never to be seen by anyone. And it wasn't for sale; it was something the nice lady had just made from offcuts to sit on while she sold her very, very nice blockprinted sheepskins meant to go over chairs, benches and inside baby cradles. ...Does that make these shirts the equivalent to someone saying "It's a bit chilly out" and just strapping some IKEA couch pillows to their body before going out?
What if we call the weird cape a double cutaway cape? A cutaway cape cut away from the front is a thing (a modern thing, and I picture it in chiffon on Grace Kelly with an evening dress)) and if you cut away the back too, then why not give it a fetching name?
I don't understand why they almost never make the costumes historically accurate in these shows. It can probably never be 100% accurate but it would be nice to see them actually try. Why don't they? Do they think historically accurate costumes wouldn't look ''as cool''? Well, I think dressing people from the medieval ages like Star Wars characters doesn't make them look cool
This can't be your full time job, until we can call you Dr. Jimmy. Love your videos, I learn, I laugh, I love the way you think so practically about people from the past. Best wishes and be well.
That weird shoulder cape thing - if there was material hanging down the back, it would resemble something I made once, though in reverse, for a wheelchair user. The long part covered their front and lap, the short part hung down over their shoulders and tucked behind them without much bulk, and then the loose sides allowed them to use their arms to wheel themselves around, or could be tucked around them if someone else was pushing. There were even clasps at the shoulders so we could easily slip it on and then close the neck opening.
Re: Belt buckles. For a time in feminine fashion between like 20…17? To about 2020 there was this trend of double buckle belts. This might be North American specific but we had this resurgence of western/ cowboy type wear with the bolo ties and cowboy boots and felt hats. People would have belts that have 2 buckles where it essentially is a detachable front portion with buckles on either side. This is what that belt looks like, but I have no idea how they work since I’ve never worn one
The double-buckle ones that I've seen were a slot and twist system where you slip the tab of the first buckle into the slot of the second and set it with a quarter-twist until it lays flat and they lock together. The tab can still move in the slot like a hinge, but can't come out until you give it that quarter turn to undo the lock because of the shape of the tab and slot.
3:46 "What are these for" - a leash. It's one of those little kiddy harnasses for a lead to make sure your toddler doesn't wander off and fall down a well. That's what those are for. It even has big boy dinosaur spikes!
The cape/mantel thing reminds me of welding cape, or welding sleeves. Sometimes called a welding 'half-jacket'. I like the style of the welding ones, but not that cloak thing, lol.
I think it's more a case of those in positions of Having the Final Say not caring about doing things right rather than a lack of people who don't know how to do things right.
@@hoppytoad79 I would agree. I find it almost impossible that costume designers don't know what they're doing. It's probably the editor, producers or whoever is in charge of "selling" the series that are influencing it to look "better" to the modern eye... As for the poor stitching etc, that is just low budget. That's not to say I don't just looove Jimmy tearing it down, cause I do 😃
my name suggestion for the goofy shoulder cape is "noodle cloak" (optionally, "furry noodle cloak" since it had the....trim? lining? who knows) also that's a delicious-looking cup of tea indeed P:
Now im imagining them having a seance to Talk to the bloke who found the Red Lady of paviland and decided "Must have been a high Priestess because Theres beads and shells, so thats OBVIOUSLY jewelry, aka Priestess! Only Woman wear jewelry!" .... These days the Red Lady is assumed to be a Male skeleton and the shells and beads might be all Kinds of stuff, Like currency or craft supplies. Or jewelry. Who knows. But i Love that they kept the name
@@annabeinglazy5580 Or they talked to Time Team. Every time there's a midden pit it's a "sacrificial well," or 2 stones on top of each other it's got to be something sacred. Last season (last year) was exactly a midden at a Cornish fougou site they called a sacrificial well until they were faced with the truth. And Sir Tony Robinson seems to have went to the "ancient aliens" camp recently...
WOOOOOO! RIP THEM A NEW ASSHOLE JIMMY! Why would you wear a bunch of sheep skins when you could, I don’t know, shear your sheep, and weave the wool into fabric? I didn’t think these costumes could get any worse, and yet they did. Do these costumers not know how to make sew? Or do they think medieval people couldn’t sew? Anyway, glad you’re staying sane, and these costume videos are a always a fucking treat. Stay strong, and have a wonderful time til ye post again! SKÅL!
The shoulder cape is literally copying Game of Thrones. Stannis wears one. Googling "Stannis cloak" will show you. I assume someone saw it and assumed it was a real thing (tm).
It's nice to see you again Jimmy. I'm sorry about your tech problems. Thank you for giving credit where possible and showing us what was possible to do instead of what was done.
I said it here in the comments and I'm going to say it again... There are many, many companies selling acceptable off the shelf reenactment clothing. They aren't wool, they might not be historically accurate patterns but at least they would look like a early medieval tunic. For the extras they could just get that... And I'm genuinely asking myself why they chose to let their costume department cobble together all that leather, maybe even just faux leather... Letting them sew some simple tunics would probably not take long. Most people are able to sew straight lines pretty quickly and they could even try a handmade looking setting on the professional mashines they very likely have... So I doubt if it would be more expensive or complicated to sew to equip the cast with proper clothing... Even 10th century wealthy peoples clothing for the noblemen in the show...
So, covers shoulders and arms, if the arm parts were closed I’d call it a shrug. In current fashion, it’s a garment worn over sleeveless shirts/dresses to keep shoulders and arms warm. Also, lovely sweater. My moms last item knit for me was the warmest , double strand, blanket yarn, infinity scarf. It’s like wearing a blanket! Wrapped in love on chilly days
Why they all wear leather armour. A theory: Someone in charge of hiring crew got drunk at the mead tasting hall Travis Sigler apparently co-owns, and after three drinks, owed him loyalty, and honoured the bond, in the form of a gig making armour for a widely seen show. Since Travis specializes in leather work - that is what we see everyone wearing.
The royal women look like they're dressed for The Tudors? Why yes. Costume Designer Susan O'Connor Cave was Wardrobe Supervisor on The Tudors. (And also did Vikings.) Tight budget? Tight timeline? Well, guess we're raiding the costumes from my past gigs. -15th century? But this is set in the 11th! -Would you prefer 5th century? The costumes from Camelot are also probably somewhere around here in Ireland.
One thing that really bothers me in these "viking" shows is that no one ever covers up their necks or palms from the cold. Especially when every shot seems to have this rather horrible gray and cold looking weather where ever they go (apparently a sun wasn't A thing back then nor was the colours of the rainbow...) I'm just saying that it doesn't take much when your feet and fingers start to feel numb...Oh but at least they have those modern leather armors keeping them warm!! Yay! And yes I was being sarcastic...
@@johannageisel5390 so loosing an ear to frostbite is manly? So glad we're in enlightened modern times where adult men don't reject common sense for fear of being less macho 😒
that weird buckle garment is clearly them taking a bolero jacket and making it out of a rug to try to look like..... something....... im not sure what they were going for, but its a "viking" bolero jacket that looks like it was made out of a rug that they found in storage and went "ooh, its free, lets use it"
Good to see you! I’m chuckling along ( thank you!) as you describe the poorly done costumes- couldn’t they afford some experts ( like yourself) to give the show a bit o style? Ah well, your knowledge is always appreciated Jimmy and hope to see you soon equipment permitting 🥰
Yay, thanks Jimmy. I watched the original “Vikings” tv show, but can’t bring myself to watch the Valhalla version… now I don’t have to! 😂 Love your tea & the cup it’s in, also your Mam is a fantastic knitter to have made that for you!
I enjoy watching these critique videos before watching the shows. I enjoy watching these kind of shows just for the entertainment. Love getting the knowledge! You look great in the natural lighting! Glad the tea is better! Bad tea is awful.
I blame the Mad Max school of costuming myself. It is allowable in fantasy but seems to have a pernicious effect on anything later which seems to equate warrior with studs and black leather. Such a loss for historically glorious colours and fabrics. Keep on ranting please.
this. I've cosplayed for years and regularly give thanks that I ended up in fandoms where the costumes are based on real and actual clothing. Not some mad designer thing that no-one could wear irl. (looking at you, comics and anime)
I dunno, maybe I'd call that bizzarre garment an eviscerated poncho?? Not a fan, but the vest Jimmy's mum knitted is awesome; I love it! And I love a bit of costume-bashing: hilarious & I learn heaps.
It's bad Treasure Trap! (The LARP group when I was in Durham in 1990). Lamellar armour made from steam-bent bits of plastic drain-pipe (using room kettle for the steam). Knitted string. Ring-mail. Although there were some honourable mentions for the geeks who made their own chain-mail from fencing wire!
Cachow, what's popping, favourite nerd! It's my boy Jimmy back again, and I audibly squealed when I got the yt notification. Ok, I can watch now, happy in seeing your face again.
I regularly wear a barbarian babe costume at conventions. part of it is a mini fur cape that covers the top of my shoulders and upper back, tied onto my crop top straps. Keeps you surprisingly warm. It's still more practical and and historically accurate than that... thing.
Jimmy "Shall we just rant about Vikings: Valhalla?" Me "Oh yes please let's." I'm going to call Mr. Grumpson's weird fur thing an anti-cold shoulder top. A cold nippy top if you will.
So I started a Viking Mystery quilt (one quilt block pattern to build and one chapter of the story per month). This month was a Scandinavian type flower pattern. I'm just waiting for one that has a horned helmet. At least none of the people this Vikings series had horns on their helmets. Other than that, I've got nothing. Thanks for another good one. Take care.
Another great video Jimmie! So sorry to hear about your tech troubles. But I can assure you that as a fellow tea-enjoyer, I could see ENOUGH to see that the color was perfect, well done. Nothing quite like a nice cuppa. 🖤
Hello! Two unrelated-related things: do you know a medieval castle is being built in France as we speak? It's a 25 year project, they'll finish in about 9 years. The team does the whole thing as authentically as possible, including clothes/food/transportation/the whole sherberng. It's called Castle Guédelon. There's a game company called Wales Interactive who create ~historical~ Welsh settings for their games. Indie horror. Just putting it here.
It looks like they were very taken with Game of Thrones, but then did it really cheap with rental costumes. And Gimli the Dwarf is modeling that giant wrestling belt. Were beard braids a thing with any ancient humans?
Yo!
Editing error. At 6:20 this is the belt buckle it’s meant to show. Bat-apologies, folks!
www.futuremuseum.co.uk/collections/people/lives-in-key-periods/archaeology/early-medieval-%28400ad-1099ad%29/vikings/domestic/norse-belt-buckle,-whithorn.aspx
I know this is an odd place for this comment but… Would you consider reviewing historical fiction book?
Just a though i had and wanted to ask before I forgot.
The link gives me a service unavalaible error sadly, is it just me?
Best part of Vikings Valhalla clothing: Jimmy's tea.
Also, I loved Jimmy in Bernadette's video! He was in very good company.
argh, stole my comment
Mystical fishing net and cosplaying Doctor Who. Nearly spat my coffee out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Next thing you know, they're gonna have a space helmet for a cow.
(Reference to the 1965 Doctor Who serial 'The Time Meddler', which is set in 1066. Not historically accurate, but it was 1965.)
I think the shoulder scarf-cape is more like an unfinished poncho. Probably his wife got fed up making it and said "There! Just wear it, you great oaf. Tell them it's the latest fashion."
I hadn't thought of that, and I'm actually sitting here wearing my house poncho 😆 (House coats and dressing gowns are so last century 😉)
Maybe she meant to make a full scale poncho, but only had a long strip of fabric left, didn't want to buy more, and thus... "It'll keep your arms warm!"
This is now canon
"They call it a "shoulder warmer" "
"Medieval is a time in history. Let's make them wear medieval clothes!" Said the costume designer calmly comparing 450-1550 to 1965-1970.
Someone could make a spoof doing this logic for a contemporary thing. Making us 2023 peoples wear stuff from 1950.
Or worse: early 2000s
I want to call it a crop poncho, but it looks like a sewing project I would have made when I was a teen. Like I didn't buy enough of a pretty and expensive fabric to make anything bigger, but was determined to make SOMETHING out of it because I loved the fabric. Good times. 😂😂😂
We're always up for some enthusiastically exasperated costume pedantry.
Hear hear! *raises her mug*
I'm IN! Exasperated costume pedantry is my JAM!
"tripped over its balls and fell down the stairs" had me laughing out loud 🤣
The other day I had a client go on and on about this show and how it was "historically accurate" and I kept hearing what you said in Bernadette's video and I was internally screaming. The struggle not to tell them was very real.
You should have told them. No excuse for such bad costuming nowadays on a show. We can all look up historical clothes.
My name suggestion for the shoulder cape is "the world's worst sandwich". My second choice would be "Edna Mode's Cape Rule Work-around".
Honourable mention to "the original shrug, because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "
Over-bust cold shoulder sweater with fur trim, hot now from ASOS.
It's a Burrito cape.
@@lucie4185 take that back 😭
@@cork.. I can't I am now singing Beast boy's Burrito song in my head all day.
Well, that Judoon ref is actually explaining a GREAT DEAL about this show. This isn't Vikings! It's actually aliens recreating Vikings. This is just their version of it-
Thanks for the video! It's always fun to look at what's actually wrong about the costumery, rather than just 'hmm. looks bad, but I'm not sure why'
This is going to sound weird, but the shoulderpiece made of a strip of cloth & the two brooches made me think of the yoke of a Plains Indian woman's dress. It's made by taking a whole deer skin & folding it widthwise with a slit in the middle for the head, and body/legs forming the sleeves, usually left open on the underside with fringe. The body of the dress then takes two more deerhides sewn along the lower edges of the hide. I've always worked in the anthropology department of museums, and it just popped into my head as soon as I saw it.
That's cool! It reminds me of how a lot of older clothing traditions are built around loom widths of fabric.
That’s *exactly* where my brain went too!
Thank you! I was trying to figure out why the shape seemed familiar in this bizarre context.
@@jaded_gerManic me too! I knew I'd seen something similar, just not what or where. Local museum!
Ah 6:00 reminds of the one thing those 50s and 60s low budget historical movies got right: COLOURS! It's like they took every advantage of the glory of technicolour while now 60 years later producers would love to go back to just black if they could (white is optional).
On the one hand, another fabulous tear-down. On the other hand, I also appreciate that you do your best to give as much credit where it might be due as you can, because unfettered unending negativity is something none of us needs nowadays.
It's nice to have you back! I wonder how much of bad costumes are lazy costume designers and how much is producers and directors overriding their original ideas.
My husband and I are currently watching the early 2000s series on the 3 Musketeers and he had to tell me to ignore the costumes and watch the silly show.
So I crochet and occasionally look up. I highly recommend doing needlework while "watching" poorly costumed shows.
You watched The Musketeers and looked at the costuming? What was wrong with the fellas in the costumes…that’s all I saw when I watched😂😂
Hey there! Wonder if I could get your opinion on a tunicy thing from a clothing company called Knit Factory? :) Not affiliated with them, just curious if I could use it for re-enactment. The dress is called "indy casual dress", it's slightly above knee-length, short sleeved, comes in bright colours.
@@lindsaydrewe8219 you do have a point there. But stays without shifts and weird dresses will get me every time.
Lol, tare away. My mothers side is mostly Welsh and I have a long interest in history but over a much wider spectrum. Specialists I always respect and love listening to them. I was briefly a member of Regia Anglorum but I had emotional and family problems and never had my own transport which you may know is a pain to get around without. Anyway, thank you for the review of the usual butchery we are subjected to by TV companies.Sorry for any grammar errors, I am recovering from a stroke.
I hope your recovery goes well. 🙂
Definitely supporting the idea of calling weird shoulder cape thing a 'shrug', its honestly the most fitting name. Also, comparing the strange cowl thing to the Jadoon is amazing and I'll never unsee it now.
The Peek-a-boob cloak cracks me up every time lmao
Well, they'd probably be great costumes for the Renaissance Faire! At least there you don't expect things to look historically accurate. I know that none of the garb I've ever worn to one of those is anywhere near historically accurate. Just fun fantasy pieces inspired by a general historical time period... -ish.
Also, you're Mom is a very talented knitter! I love the cables.
10:25 🤣 the Viking crop top
10:24 "Have any of you got a name for this garment?" - Abbreviated poncho. It is a poncho with all functionality removed from it.
Yes! I called it an eviscerated poncho- it's had both its guts and its usefulness ripped out.
"The problem is, all of it is just bad." great hoodie material 😂
YES! More eccentric bikervikings!!!!😃
Theories on the neck grommets: it's a Jenny of the Green Ribbon situation and he's actually laced his head directly into the doublet.
Diolch, Jimmy 🙏 I LOVE ❤️ your "Vikings" rants!! 😆😂🤣 Hope your feeling better mentally & physically. Take care mate 🏴
My favourite thing from the show is that Leif and Harald head off into Russia and for some reason, it's winter. And yet in Scandinavia, it's still summer! Nice mug, by the way. I want a cup of tea now. And a nice rich tea biscuit.
I miss the Northman too Jimmy. Despite it's flaws it was one of the best portrayals of medieval Scandinavians. If it helps season 2 of Vinland Saga is out.
Halfway through ARMA, Joes doorbell goes and he says 'Its Jimmy, here to blag my internet!'
I feel like historical costumes across the board have just become so much worse in the past decade. I'm not really sure who to blame for it, so I'm just going to take a stab in the dark and blame Game of Thrones.
You should watch Bernadette's video on that very subject. Her response will probably not be what you expect.
Damn, now I need tea.
According to a friend who was an extra on the series, not all the costumes were made for the show and some of them were straight up reused from Marco Polo so it would not surprise me if other series' costumes got used as well, e.g. from Netflix's Tudor-era shows (they also said that "the shoes were so fckn terrible" and "the costumes were... There")
The sword says "trikvi svertit", not sure what "trikvi" means in that context but "svertit" definitely means "the sword"... Good to have an explicit label on the item you're buying
I'm becoming a broken record on this topic at this point but...if shows don't care about being historically accurate, they should either be comedies or historically inspired fantasy. I'm willing to forgive any artistic liberties in those cases. I don't get the point of people who don't care about history making historical fiction.
The show has so many historical inaccuracies, it might as well be classified as "historically inspired fantasy"
havent watched the whole thing yet but man that whole ass fox on the guy's head is sending me
I have actually seen the "raggedy sheepskin sewn together with visible thread" at a traditional Norwegian handicraft market, as made, on purpose, by an artisan.
Granted, the aforementioned artisan said it was "hastily thrown together". And it had about 3 stitches per cm, not 0.8. And the object was a seat warmer where the stitches were meant to go on a chair, never to be seen by anyone. And it wasn't for sale; it was something the nice lady had just made from offcuts to sit on while she sold her very, very nice blockprinted sheepskins meant to go over chairs, benches and inside baby cradles.
...Does that make these shirts the equivalent to someone saying "It's a bit chilly out" and just strapping some IKEA couch pillows to their body before going out?
9:45 Oh you mean the Ferengi Twin shawl! 😉
What if we call the weird cape a double cutaway cape? A cutaway cape cut away from the front is a thing (a modern thing, and I picture it in chiffon on Grace Kelly with an evening dress)) and if you cut away the back too, then why not give it a fetching name?
I don't understand why they almost never make the costumes historically accurate in these shows. It can probably never be 100% accurate but it would be nice to see them actually try. Why don't they? Do they think historically accurate costumes wouldn't look ''as cool''? Well, I think dressing people from the medieval ages like Star Wars characters doesn't make them look cool
Lack of investment in costuming is one factor, but also, it can also come down to a contempt for the audience's intelligence.
Another commenter said that a lot of costumes were reused from another show.
This can't be your full time job, until we can call you Dr. Jimmy. Love your videos, I learn, I laugh, I love the way you think so practically about people from the past. Best wishes and be well.
That weird shoulder cape thing - if there was material hanging down the back, it would resemble something I made once, though in reverse, for a wheelchair user. The long part covered their front and lap, the short part hung down over their shoulders and tucked behind them without much bulk, and then the loose sides allowed them to use their arms to wheel themselves around, or could be tucked around them if someone else was pushing. There were even clasps at the shoulders so we could easily slip it on and then close the neck opening.
Re: Belt buckles. For a time in feminine fashion between like 20…17? To about 2020 there was this trend of double buckle belts. This might be North American specific but we had this resurgence of western/ cowboy type wear with the bolo ties and cowboy boots and felt hats. People would have belts that have 2 buckles where it essentially is a detachable front portion with buckles on either side. This is what that belt looks like, but I have no idea how they work since I’ve never worn one
The double-buckle ones that I've seen were a slot and twist system where you slip the tab of the first buckle into the slot of the second and set it with a quarter-twist until it lays flat and they lock together. The tab can still move in the slot like a hinge, but can't come out until you give it that quarter turn to undo the lock because of the shape of the tab and slot.
Wierd cloak? Maybe a tabard worn sideways?
3:46 "What are these for" - a leash. It's one of those little kiddy harnasses for a lead to make sure your toddler doesn't wander off and fall down a well. That's what those are for. It even has big boy dinosaur spikes!
That is a very nice vest though! Good job, Jimmy's mam! 😊👏❤ Am jealous!
The cape/mantel thing reminds me of welding cape, or welding sleeves. Sometimes called a welding 'half-jacket'. I like the style of the welding ones, but not that cloak thing, lol.
"Why is everyone wearing trousers? We don't need any more of that." feel like words to live by.
Great analysis Jimmy. Hollywood (or whatever production location) needs to get an authority to do things right.
I think it's more a case of those in positions of Having the Final Say not caring about doing things right rather than a lack of people who don't know how to do things right.
@@hoppytoad79 I would agree. I find it almost impossible that costume designers don't know what they're doing. It's probably the editor, producers or whoever is in charge of "selling" the series that are influencing it to look "better" to the modern eye... As for the poor stitching etc, that is just low budget.
That's not to say I don't just looove Jimmy tearing it down, cause I do 😃
Jimmy😁 I'm so glad you're back. I hope you are getting back on track with your mental health and your PhD. My thoughts are with you
space helmet. LOL. dying
my name suggestion for the goofy shoulder cape is "noodle cloak" (optionally, "furry noodle cloak" since it had the....trim? lining? who knows)
also that's a delicious-looking cup of tea indeed P:
The whole frankenstitch, bride of frankenstitch and young frankenstitch had me in well....stitches, lol 🤣🖤 .
I'm guessing these belts used velcro.
"Fantasy samurai armadillo armour" lol 😂 However, a fantasy samurai armadillo in armour is another thing entirely.
One of two possibilities: the producers and prop department time travelled and consulted exclusively with Victorian "historians" or they're nutters.
Now im imagining them having a seance to Talk to the bloke who found the Red Lady of paviland and decided "Must have been a high Priestess because Theres beads and shells, so thats OBVIOUSLY jewelry, aka Priestess! Only Woman wear jewelry!"
.... These days the Red Lady is assumed to be a Male skeleton and the shells and beads might be all Kinds of stuff, Like currency or craft supplies. Or jewelry. Who knows. But i Love that they kept the name
@@annabeinglazy5580 Or they talked to Time Team. Every time there's a midden pit it's a "sacrificial well," or 2 stones on top of each other it's got to be something sacred. Last season (last year) was exactly a midden at a Cornish fougou site they called a sacrificial well until they were faced with the truth. And Sir Tony Robinson seems to have went to the "ancient aliens" camp recently...
Any time you can fit Doctor Who into a video is good by me 👍
We all need mystical fishing net hoods for bad hair days tbh
Maybe that's what I've been missing!
WOOOOOO! RIP THEM A NEW ASSHOLE JIMMY! Why would you wear a bunch of sheep skins when you could, I don’t know, shear your sheep, and weave the wool into fabric? I didn’t think these costumes could get any worse, and yet they did. Do these costumers not know how to make sew? Or do they think medieval people couldn’t sew? Anyway, glad you’re staying sane, and these costume videos are a always a fucking treat. Stay strong, and have a wonderful time til ye post again! SKÅL!
The shoulder cape is literally copying Game of Thrones. Stannis wears one. Googling "Stannis cloak" will show you. I assume someone saw it and assumed it was a real thing (tm).
It's nice to see you again Jimmy. I'm sorry about your tech problems. Thank you for giving credit where possible and showing us what was possible to do instead of what was done.
6:50 I do have a belt with a double buckle like that, but it's very much a fashion belt, and a nightmare to weave through the belt loops
I said it here in the comments and I'm going to say it again... There are many, many companies selling acceptable off the shelf reenactment clothing. They aren't wool, they might not be historically accurate patterns but at least they would look like a early medieval tunic. For the extras they could just get that...
And I'm genuinely asking myself why they chose to let their costume department cobble together all that leather, maybe even just faux leather... Letting them sew some simple tunics would probably not take long. Most people are able to sew straight lines pretty quickly and they could even try a handmade looking setting on the professional mashines they very likely have... So I doubt if it would be more expensive or complicated to sew to equip the cast with proper clothing... Even 10th century wealthy peoples clothing for the noblemen in the show...
So, covers shoulders and arms, if the arm parts were closed I’d call it a shrug.
In current fashion, it’s a garment worn over sleeveless shirts/dresses to keep shoulders and arms warm.
Also, lovely sweater. My moms last item knit for me was the warmest , double strand, blanket yarn, infinity scarf.
It’s like wearing a blanket! Wrapped in love on chilly days
Why they all wear leather armour.
A theory:
Someone in charge of hiring crew got drunk at the mead tasting hall Travis Sigler apparently co-owns, and after three drinks, owed him loyalty, and honoured the bond, in the form of a gig making armour for a widely seen show. Since Travis specializes in leather work - that is what we see everyone wearing.
The royal women look like they're dressed for The Tudors?
Why yes. Costume Designer Susan O'Connor Cave was Wardrobe Supervisor on The Tudors. (And also did Vikings.)
Tight budget? Tight timeline? Well, guess we're raiding the costumes from my past gigs.
-15th century?
But this is set in the 11th!
-Would you prefer 5th century? The costumes from Camelot are also probably somewhere around here in Ireland.
I believe the belts are closed with Velcro. It's just a feeling - but.....
Here for The Tudors roast. Never gets old!
Hello! Am always here for viking rants!!
I appreciate this video fulfilling my needs for historic costume commentary *and* good shots of cups of tea.
One thing that really bothers me in these "viking" shows is that no one ever covers up their necks or palms from the cold. Especially when every shot seems to have this rather horrible gray and cold looking weather where ever they go (apparently a sun wasn't A thing back then nor was the colours of the rainbow...) I'm just saying that it doesn't take much when your feet and fingers start to feel numb...Oh but at least they have those modern leather armors keeping them warm!! Yay! And yes I was being sarcastic...
They are far too Cool And Masculine™for covering up.
@@johannageisel5390 so loosing an ear to frostbite is manly? So glad we're in enlightened modern times where adult men don't reject common sense for fear of being less macho 😒
@@jwolfe1209 It was a joke, indicated by the trademark sign.
@@johannageisel5390 yup, as was mine as indicated by the absurdity 😉
that weird buckle garment is clearly them taking a bolero jacket and making it out of a rug to try to look like..... something....... im not sure what they were going for, but its a "viking" bolero jacket that looks like it was made out of a rug that they found in storage and went "ooh, its free, lets use it"
Good to see you! I’m chuckling along ( thank you!) as you describe the poorly done costumes- couldn’t they afford some experts ( like yourself) to give the show a bit o style? Ah well, your knowledge is always appreciated Jimmy and hope to see you soon equipment permitting 🥰
Jimmy, tell your mother I admire her knitting skills. That green vest is top notch.
Yay, thanks Jimmy. I watched the original “Vikings” tv show, but can’t bring myself to watch the Valhalla version… now I don’t have to! 😂
Love your tea & the cup it’s in, also your Mam is a fantastic knitter to have made that for you!
my brain went "wait is that a bolero length cape?"... am also confused about how they thought that as a good idea...
'Mystical fishing net'. Yep, I really enjoyed this! :D
Lol “what is it?!” Why did i here gollum’s voice ‘wht is it precious?!’ 😂😅❤❤❤❤
I enjoy watching these critique videos before watching the shows. I enjoy watching these kind of shows just for the entertainment. Love getting the knowledge! You look great in the natural lighting! Glad the tea is better! Bad tea is awful.
The pointless cloak? That's a bolerohno.
I blame the Mad Max school of costuming myself. It is allowable in fantasy but seems to have a pernicious effect on anything later which seems to equate warrior with studs and black leather. Such a loss for historically glorious colours and fabrics. Keep on ranting please.
So many awful costumes, it's ghastly and wonderful ✨️
Always enjoy a good rant - just please make sure you watch your blood pressure! We don't want to torture you simply for our own enjoyment.
What bugs me the most in any film or program, even pure fantasy, is when the clothes don't make sense and/or would be impossible to wear in real life.
this. I've cosplayed for years and regularly give thanks that I ended up in fandoms where the costumes are based on real and actual clothing. Not some mad designer thing that no-one could wear irl. (looking at you, comics and anime)
LMAO I have Aelfgifu's belt plates on my LARP clothing.
I dunno, maybe I'd call that bizzarre garment an eviscerated poncho?? Not a fan, but the vest Jimmy's mum knitted is awesome; I love it! And I love a bit of costume-bashing: hilarious & I learn heaps.
Ah, the oft used Old Norse gold spray paint...
Immensely enjoy all of your videos, you are the REAL (non-Krylon-painted) treasure.
It's bad Treasure Trap! (The LARP group when I was in Durham in 1990). Lamellar armour made from steam-bent bits of plastic drain-pipe (using room kettle for the steam). Knitted string. Ring-mail. Although there were some honourable mentions for the geeks who made their own chain-mail from fencing wire!
Man, the Dr Who nostalgia in the thumbnail xD
The scarf/cape/pseudo poncho makes me think of a very avant-garde cowl. It's a statement, and function is an after-thought.
Cachow, what's popping, favourite nerd! It's my boy Jimmy back again, and I audibly squealed when I got the yt notification. Ok, I can watch now, happy in seeing your face again.
The saga of costume atrocities continues: Tudors Who Valhalla S2! At least the tea is good.
I regularly wear a barbarian babe costume at conventions. part of it is a mini fur cape that covers the top of my shoulders and upper back, tied onto my crop top straps. Keeps you surprisingly warm. It's still more practical and and historically accurate than that... thing.
The Sturgians in Bannerlord look more authentically Viking than the actors in this show.
I too had an excellent cup of tea today. It's like instant therapy.
The hair also bothers me. They had beautiful combs, I'm sure they used them.
Jimmy "Shall we just rant about Vikings: Valhalla?" Me "Oh yes please let's." I'm going to call Mr. Grumpson's weird fur thing an anti-cold shoulder top. A cold nippy top if you will.
So I started a Viking Mystery quilt (one quilt block pattern to build and one chapter of the story per month). This month was a Scandinavian type flower pattern. I'm just waiting for one that has a horned helmet. At least none of the people this Vikings series had horns on their helmets. Other than that, I've got nothing. Thanks for another good one. Take care.
Another great video Jimmie! So sorry to hear about your tech troubles. But I can assure you that as a fellow tea-enjoyer, I could see ENOUGH to see that the color was perfect, well done. Nothing quite like a nice cuppa. 🖤
There's only one thing missing to make the disaster perfect: A longsword.
Great video as always, jimmy! Thank you!
Hello! Two unrelated-related things: do you know a medieval castle is being built in France as we speak? It's a 25 year project, they'll finish in about 9 years. The team does the whole thing as authentically as possible, including clothes/food/transportation/the whole sherberng. It's called Castle Guédelon.
There's a game company called Wales Interactive who create ~historical~ Welsh settings for their games. Indie horror. Just putting it here.
That is indeed EXCELLENT colored tea :D
It looks like they were very taken with Game of Thrones, but then did it really cheap with rental costumes. And Gimli the Dwarf is modeling that giant wrestling belt. Were beard braids a thing with any ancient humans?