Basically, the machine was only thoroughly cleaned, a renovation or overhaul is something else. No ball bearings replaced, the guides not revised, the result can be clearly seen in the bad milling pattern. A lot of hassle and effort for nothing.
The bearings were ok - no runout at all (max 0.01mm). The guides - you're right. I could've scrapped them but I've lacked time for that. There are many things I learned through this process so it was definitely worth it. Next time I'll probably learn scraping ;) Thanks for the comment
@@GBWM_CNC All the running noise is enough to know that the ball bearings are at the end. The concentricity without load says nothing at all about the quality of the ball bearings. The milling picture, on the other hand, tells me that the bearings have too much play.
Couldn't agree more. A little car body filler wouldn't have gone amiss. The pain job was awful. When running machine it sounded like a bag of spanners. One last thing, it looked like what he was drinking was the contents of the sump.
Sometimes all these machines need is a good cleaning. Go easy on the guy. Maybe he couldn't afford new bearings etc! That stuff is sometimes ridiculously expensive!
This milling machine made by Romanian Oradea Factory in 70's is a copy of Deckel FP1. A good one. It is very good in homeshop garage. I have one in restauration process. Good
Yeah, the machine seems to be quite an smart mill. Just as other universal milling machines like the fp1 which also was one of my targets 😁Good luck with your restoration!
I bet the restoration of the milling machine took a whole lot of hard work and patience to carry out. It looks much better and it works like a charm too. Excellent work as usual.
@@mr.ranyhomemade2466 I bought mine for like $1000 BUT you see in what condition it was - almost ready to take it to scrapyard. But in good condition - people ask here like $2000 - $3500
Damn, you old guys are so mean. You guys could have said a little bit nicely. But I can't say these old guys are wrong. We can learn something from it. Maybe it's his first time to do it. and it's a rare experience. Were you guys already great machinists when you were just born? He did a great job. Give him a complements first, It's a great job!!! But there were some parts I don't agree with. Especially using grinder to the precision areas for esthetic purpose. But mostly he did a great job. because i know how hard it is. pls thanks to this whole video, we can learn a lot, including myself, many people, and himself.
it seems liek you did more of a general cleaning than a restore. there were lots of areas that i would have addressed in a "restore": vs a cleaning. don;t get me wrong you did a GREAT job! you certainly did a lot of work that is for sure! when i rebuild something, I typically afress clearance, repalce berings and such. every crevice is cleaned to bear metal and it is completely repainted. I do 1 section at a time to ensure it is completely done before doing the next so i don't cause spacing issues with my work bench. :) i did really enjoy this video! what machine is it?
Ich finde das Projekt sehr gut und habe vollen Respekt, dass Du Dich an so eine komplexe Maschine herangetraut hast. Ich habe selbst ein alte Drehmaschine von 1958 komplett restauriert und die ist deutlich einfacher aufgebaut. Nun hab ich mir aber dieses Jahr noch eine alte Ruhla FUW 260x720 von 1967 gegönnt. Das wird viel Arbeit 🙈. Ich hätte mir von Dir etwas mehr Liebe zum Detail erhofft. Zumindest hätte ich die größeren präsenten Flächen vor dem Lackieren gespachtelt. Dann sieht das ganze deutlich besser aus. Aber trotzdem ein schönes Projekt 👍.
Danke schön! :) Leider hatte ich nur wenig Zeit und das gesamte Projekt endete mit der Umstellung auf CNC-Steuerung. Im Nachhinein bereue ich zwar, dass ich bei den Original-Anleitungen geblieben bin und sie nicht auf den HIWIN-Typ umgestellt habe, bin aber dennoch mit dem Ganzen zufrieden :)
Getting an old mill flat, square and parallel is a bit of an overwhelming task. So many disconnected surfaces to line up and if you have to take too much off the top then it gets even more overwhelming. One day I would like to try it.
A piece of work👍👍 did you count the man-hours? What do you think about the idea to weld the milling table where it has the greatest damage and then build a larger fly cutter that will be useful for other projects and plan the table? Kawał roboty👍👍 liczyłeś roboczogodziny? Co myślisz o pomyśle żeby stół frezarki napawać tam gdzie ma największe uszkodzenia a potem zbudować większy fly cutter który się przyda przy innych projektach i splanować stół? Z której części polski jesteś jak można zapytać?
Dziękuję! Nie liczyłem ale chyba z 250 godzin mogło być. Myślałem nad fly cutterem i prędzej czy później zrobię takiego ale jak chodzi o stół to chyba nie chciałbym go napawać bo obawiam się żeby się nie pokrzywił. Myślę że zostawię jak jest, właściwie chyba nie przeszkadza to w niczym 😁
@@GBWM_CNC sounds good. I have a 10hp induction motor attached to the vertical milling machine. It's about 40 years old. It's got a lot of gears also for the spindle speed. Everything is connected with gears, even the oil pumping system is spring based. The x axis is on a worm gear attached to bevel gears. The y and z axes movements are done manually with lead screws. The rapids are with shifting gears in each axis and there's a motor for that too. The feed is too slow and it's a very noisy machine. I hope I could share some videos or photos.
Ce n'est pas une restauration mais un léger maquillage. La peinture à la bombe ça ne dure pas longtemps en plus aucune préparation préalable. Pas de réusinage des glissières...
This man has a whole lot of WD-40 (This s*it is not expensive in your country?). Why not Pressure washing is an option? BTW it was so satisfying! And why don't brands do mini wire brush for running inside tiny spaces?
Pressure washing wouldn't be easy in my house (moving this machine is really a challenge). And yes - WD-40 is expensive but this wasn't the biggest cost i took here, haha! Btw there are mini brushes - maybe I could use actually these. thanks for watching! :)
I got one for free I'm a machinist my work was getting rid of three older ones they work fine but they decided to replace them they asked if anybody wanted them I took one another guy took another one third one went to the scrap yard nobody wanted it they were all Bridgeport
@GBWM it was a joke. You found the button and wondered if it was a sewing machine, so I was saying that maybe it wanted to be, though my comment was not clear 😂
When do you actually restore it in the hour I waisted. When I clean my car and change the oil I don't post a video saying I restored it....sorry for being so harsh but I bust my butt when I restore a piece of machinery and this was not a restoration.
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Basically, the machine was only thoroughly cleaned, a renovation or overhaul is something else. No ball bearings replaced, the guides not revised, the result can be clearly seen in the bad milling pattern. A lot of hassle and effort for nothing.
The bearings were ok - no runout at all (max 0.01mm). The guides - you're right. I could've scrapped them but I've lacked time for that. There are many things I learned through this process so it was definitely worth it. Next time I'll probably learn scraping ;) Thanks for the comment
@@GBWM_CNC All the running noise is enough to know that the ball bearings are at the end. The concentricity without load says nothing at all about the quality of the ball bearings. The milling picture, on the other hand, tells me that the bearings have too much play.
@@chris-su8nsi didn't consider that. I was sure the noise came from the bevel gear issue (wasn't able to find a new one).
Couldn't agree more. A little car body filler wouldn't have gone amiss. The pain job was awful. When running machine it sounded like a bag of spanners. One last thing, it looked like what he was drinking was the contents of the sump.
Sometimes all these machines need is a good cleaning. Go easy on the guy. Maybe he couldn't afford new bearings etc! That stuff is sometimes ridiculously expensive!
This milling machine made by Romanian Oradea Factory in 70's is a copy of Deckel FP1. A good one.
It is very good in homeshop garage.
I have one in restauration process.
Good
Yeah, the machine seems to be quite an smart mill. Just as other universal milling machines like the fp1 which also was one of my targets 😁Good luck with your restoration!
I bet the restoration of the milling machine took a whole lot of hard work and patience to carry out. It looks much better and it works like a charm too. Excellent work as usual.
Hell yea! Thank you!
Well done, Congratulation now you have full options CNC machine for your work shop🎉❤😊
Will be full cnc soon 😁
I asked a shop here 3000$ second hand only so expensive
@@mr.ranyhomemade2466 3000$ for a milling machine?
Similar your’s
@@mr.ranyhomemade2466 I bought mine for like $1000 BUT you see in what condition it was - almost ready to take it to scrapyard. But in good condition - people ask here like $2000 - $3500
That flash drink tea here in Brazil is called Chimarrão enjoy it and hugs from Rio de Janeiro
Isn't Chimarro a specific more powdered kind of mate? Grettings from Poland! :)
Damn, you old guys are so mean. You guys could have said a little bit nicely. But I can't say these old guys are wrong. We can learn something from it. Maybe it's his first time to do it. and it's a rare experience. Were you guys already great machinists when you were just born? He did a great job. Give him a complements first, It's a great job!!! But there were some parts I don't agree with. Especially using grinder to the precision areas for esthetic purpose. But mostly he did a great job. because i know how hard it is. pls thanks to this whole video, we can learn a lot, including myself, many people, and himself.
Each project im learning a lot of stuff and even more from the comments, haha! Big thanks for your support :)
it seems liek you did more of a general cleaning than a restore. there were lots of areas that i would have addressed in a "restore": vs a cleaning. don;t get me wrong you did a GREAT job! you certainly did a lot of work that is for sure! when i rebuild something, I typically afress clearance, repalce berings and such. every crevice is cleaned to bear metal and it is completely repainted. I do 1 section at a time to ensure it is completely done before doing the next so i don't cause spacing issues with my work bench. :) i did really enjoy this video! what machine is it?
You're right! :) it is a fus 200 romanian milling machine. Guides scraping would bo appreciated here, but i didnt have so much time
@@GBWM_CNC totally understand that!
Great job, bro
Thank you! 😊
Seu trabalho é incrível 🙌🏼
Ich finde das Projekt sehr gut und habe vollen Respekt, dass Du Dich an so eine komplexe Maschine herangetraut hast. Ich habe selbst ein alte Drehmaschine von 1958 komplett restauriert und die ist deutlich einfacher aufgebaut. Nun hab ich mir aber dieses Jahr noch eine alte Ruhla FUW 260x720 von 1967 gegönnt. Das wird viel Arbeit 🙈.
Ich hätte mir von Dir etwas mehr Liebe zum Detail erhofft. Zumindest hätte ich die größeren präsenten Flächen vor dem Lackieren gespachtelt. Dann sieht das ganze deutlich besser aus. Aber trotzdem ein schönes Projekt 👍.
Danke schön! :) Leider hatte ich nur wenig Zeit und das gesamte Projekt endete mit der Umstellung auf CNC-Steuerung. Im Nachhinein bereue ich zwar, dass ich bei den Original-Anleitungen geblieben bin und sie nicht auf den HIWIN-Typ umgestellt habe, bin aber dennoch mit dem Ganzen zufrieden :)
Wyczyszczone , pomalowane i na handel😊
Wyczyszczone, pomalowane, przerobione na CNC i do własnego warsztatu siup! :)
although not a restoration but a very good washing job.
Getting an old mill flat, square and parallel is a bit of an overwhelming task. So many disconnected surfaces to line up and if you have to take too much off the top then it gets even more overwhelming. One day I would like to try it.
This is right at point. Maybe I'll face this problem someday - that would need a lot of time and patience
Foarte frumos!
Felicitări.
Mulțumesc! :)
A piece of work👍👍 did you count the man-hours? What do you think about the idea to weld the milling table where it has the greatest damage and then build a larger fly cutter that will be useful for other projects and plan the table?
Kawał roboty👍👍 liczyłeś roboczogodziny? Co myślisz o pomyśle żeby stół frezarki napawać tam gdzie ma największe uszkodzenia a potem zbudować większy fly cutter który się przyda przy innych projektach i splanować stół? Z której części polski jesteś jak można zapytać?
Dziękuję! Nie liczyłem ale chyba z 250 godzin mogło być. Myślałem nad fly cutterem i prędzej czy później zrobię takiego ale jak chodzi o stół to chyba nie chciałbym go napawać bo obawiam się żeby się nie pokrzywił. Myślę że zostawię jak jest, właściwie chyba nie przeszkadza to w niczym 😁
I'm not sure you realize this, but your coffee cup has gathered a large amount of algae growth. Best wash that out.
If you put new bearings in the head you have much better milling fase, how many WD40 did you used?
Hmm, probably maybe like 600-800ml for the whole machine
Whoa. That's an epic restoration. How do i get in touch with you? Need some advice on a milling machine i want to restore too.
Post here a comment. Maybe some other people will be able to help you too. I'm not so professional - just doing this as my hobby! :)
@@GBWM_CNC sounds good. I have a 10hp induction motor attached to the vertical milling machine. It's about 40 years old. It's got a lot of gears also for the spindle speed. Everything is connected with gears, even the oil pumping system is spring based. The x axis is on a worm gear attached to bevel gears. The y and z axes movements are done manually with lead screws. The rapids are with shifting gears in each axis and there's a motor for that too. The feed is too slow and it's a very noisy machine. I hope I could share some videos or photos.
@@gurpreetmankoo damn, 10hp is a really big machine
don't ask questions you don't want answers too. LOL
Ce n'est pas une restauration mais un léger maquillage. La peinture à la bombe ça ne dure pas longtemps en plus aucune préparation préalable. Pas de réusinage des glissières...
What color green is that?
RAL6018
stuff gets into cracks and such when they don'y reseal with silicone or clean their machine after use.
Nao quer vir para o Brasil Atualizar meu oficina??
Isso parece interessante! ;)
have noticed you drinking "mate" means your argentinian regards laurence
Haha, not quite! :) Poland's over here. Greetings
This man has a whole lot of WD-40 (This s*it is not expensive in your country?). Why not Pressure washing is an option?
BTW it was so satisfying! And why don't brands do mini wire brush for running inside tiny spaces?
Pressure washing wouldn't be easy in my house (moving this machine is really a challenge). And yes - WD-40 is expensive but this wasn't the biggest cost i took here, haha! Btw there are mini brushes - maybe I could use actually these. thanks for watching! :)
I got one for free I'm a machinist my work was getting rid of three older ones they work fine but they decided to replace them they asked if anybody wanted them I took one another guy took another one third one went to the scrap yard nobody wanted it they were all Bridgeport
Oh damn, bridgeports are awesome I heard. You're lucky I guess!
Looks alot like my Maho MH600
Mahos are wonderfull machines!
In these modern times, it can identify as a sewing machine 😅
Why? :D
@GBWM it was a joke. You found the button and wondered if it was a sewing machine, so I was saying that maybe it wanted to be, though my comment was not clear 😂
@@ClearlyCero oh damn. I made the video so long ago that I fargot that sewing machine joke 😂🤣😂 got it haha 😂
@@GBWM_CNC not at all, solid video and really good job! Keep them coming :)
@@ClearlyCero I'll try to do my best! :)
hahahaa spin! but spin it right! hahahaahaha
U left a lot of rubbish in it
what rubbish?
If you can't make keys for those nuts, you don't need that milling machine. It's not your's... Using screwdriver for segment nuts its disgusting...
Yup, wasting time on making a key for each size nut. Especially when the machine is taken aparat :) Greetings and thanks for watching!
When do you actually restore it in the hour I waisted. When I clean my car and change the oil I don't post a video saying I restored it....sorry for being so harsh but I bust my butt when I restore a piece of machinery and this was not a restoration.
Well, maybe it was kind of a refreshment more likely. I regret a little bit not scraping the guides though
Brilliant job!
Thank you! :)
Фу-у, що це? "Косметичний" "ремонт" за допомою молотка та зубила...
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Don’t wast your money doing a conversion on that milling machine
Already done and works :)