When Prince Otto came to Athens he looked around and asked, where are these Greeks, where can I meet them. The locals told him, sir this an Albanian village. Largely the majority of Greeks spoke Albanian until the 20th century with little to know knowledge of Greece during the Ottoman and byzantium empire, that's over 1 and a half melenium lol. If language makes the person then I am half German Half Latin for speaking English right now
You are Slavs, it is us, Macedonians, Greeks that buried your Bulgarian arses, now our salads in Macedonia taste even better. What do you do when you read all those university papers on the Greekness of Macedonia, and do you avoid the worlds museums, when Macedonian history is again 100% Greek. You Slavs are just so incredibly stupid is defies belief. Identifying yourself, with the name of the people that buried you. By the way do you like your new name 'North' Macedonia. We are still MACEDONIA, no name change required. Don't get too used to it, Albanians will outnumber you in 20 years.
It will be ok if there are No Macedonians No Greeks No Serbs etc on the condition that we are all Orthodox Christians! And if we really are Orthodox Christians we would be together as brothers and sisters instead of enemys.
Oh really? Are you discriminating now us, atheists? What about us? We are harmless and yet, we have a culture and language that we nurture, which presents an identity. But religion and belief are to choose.
Macedonians are not considered a "minority" in Greece, they are part of Greece, just like Sparta and other peopel and regions from Ancient Greece. Slavic Macedonians peopbably are not recognized separately from Bulgarian/Slavic minority.
@@nikolajovanovski5409 yep, partially correct. Bulgaria is 1/3 Thracian, 1/3 Bulgars (tucik tribe), and 1/3 Slavic. Macedonia was part of the ancient Greek world until 146 BC; that year Rome conquered Macedonia, Greece and Epirus; and from that moment it was not heard aorund about Greece or Macedonia until 1821 when Germans and other European powers incited and supported the Greek independence. Meantime, the Macedonians were slavicized and there was no separate identity until Ilinden and Titto's SFRY of Macedonia to spike Bulgaria and Greece at the same time. If you want to be Macedonian, you need to take Macedonia over from Greece, Pela and Vergina are in Greece and that was the heart of Macedonia; not Skopje - according to Romans, Skupi (aka Skopje in Slavic) was an Illyrian city. Also, you might want to search for an ever elusive "Macedonian" language that is not Bulgarian. I don't want to sound mean, but how can I discern between my "Macedonian" friends from the Bulgarian friends who speak the same language. The words that you use which are not Bulgarian, are Serbian... and rightfully so, because you are between Serbia and Bulgaria, and both countries have fought over the Vardar (aka Axios) region.
1/2 of your country are ethnic Albanian and Turks. Also all theese people in the video had ancestors that fought against IMRO with the greek gangs.It a same how the Greek state treats them
If he rose again, he would call you barbarians (non-Hellenes), conquer you and proceed to hellenize you until you spoke Greek and had a Hellenized culture... like he did back ~2300 years ago
Some quotes from famous Slavs: 1. Kirov Gligoroff. First President of the newly founded Republic of FYROM: “We are Slavs who immigrated to this region in the 6th century AD. We have nothing to do with Alexander the Great." 2. Ljubco Georgievski, Prime Minister: "Ancient Macedonia is not here in Skopje but further south" 3. Miroslav Grecev, Mayor of Skopje: "It's just ridiculous our association with Alexander the Great" 4. Toni Deskoski Professor of Law at the University of Skopje: "We are trying to transform a Slavic nation into a Greek one" 5. Lyubica Acevska Ambassador of Skopje to the USA: "We are Slavs and speak a Slavic language" 6. Peter Silegov, Mayor of Skopje: "Alexander the Great was never part of our history, it has become the last few years"
Some quotes from some famous Greeks: “It’s the fault of a German. [Winckelmann] We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, ‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.” Greek author and intellectual Nikos Dimou “What led to the great expansion of this phenomenon of Arianistic values was the "Science of Antiquity" in schools where THE TEACHING OF CLASSICAL CIVILIZATION FALSIFIED THE DISCIPLINE WITH THE FICTITIOUS, FICTIONAL HELLENISTIC MODEL.” “Hellenic civilization as we know it was in fact THE INVENTION OF THE "SCIENCE OF ANTIQUITY", of classics. As such it could have been (and was) endowed with whatever signification the discipline found useful.” Stathis Gourgouris, ‘A Nation of Dreams’ ‘The Macedonian nation accomplished, in the general history [of civilization], a different mission from that of the Hellenic nation’ (Paparrigopoulos 1849-53, 1.193); Paparrigopoulos. ‘Textbook of General History’ 1849 "GREEK NATIONAL IDENTITY DID NOT EXIST before the 19th century. It was created from the outside in an era of intense nationalism, colonialism and expansionist imperialism (p. 16). In short, SOME PEOPLE FROM ABROAD TOLD US IN THE 19TH CENTURY THAT WE WERE GREEKS AND WE ACCEPTED IT IN ORDER TO SAVE THEM SELLING THE FAIRY TALE THAT WE ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE ANCIENT GREEKS." As quoted by O Konstantinos, ‘Mud, Forgeries, Nationalist Frenzy’ "In those days [1800s - 1900s] there were Arvanites (Albanians), Vlachs and Slavs. All of them had to become part of one national body. And so they became. BUT THIS IS NOT TO SAY IN THIS DAY AND AGE WE SHOULD BE UNDER THE ILLUSION THAT WE ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF PERICLES." Professor Thanos Veremis, transcript from interview "For if any non-Greek power, whether Persian or Macedonian, were to achieve world dominion, the typical form of the Greek state would suffer death and destruction." Demosthenes, Famous statesman from antiquity, “When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”. Harilaos Trikoupis, Greek Prime Minister 1882-1895 “The real Greeks would never have driven out the Turks. They were too degraded even to wish for liberty. For many years after we had achieved our own independence they called the times of Turkish rule ‘the good times.’ IT WAS THE ALBANIANS AND MACEDONIANS AND FOREIGNERS who fought the Turks.” General Kalergi, author Greek Revolution of 1843 and Greek Minister "...Modern Greeks being a messy Greco-Roman-Slavic-Turkic-Semitic lot emerging from the Ottoman Empire who with the leadership of people like Byron declared themselves Greek - The forced westernization process which began in Ottoman Greece between 1821 and 1921, was more about CREATING GREEKS rather than liberating them - Images of Hellenes were invented in the minds of Enlightened British, French and German aristocrats and bourgeoisie". Mr. Fotis Kapetopoulos, 15 Sep 2009 "..Suddenly, we got all those pastors who inserted the idea that they actually are not shepherds but proud sons, grandchildren and relatives of Pericles, Demostenisa and Pythagoras, the names which they have never heard of, but it looked like the Europeans to respect.(sic) So we have essentially THE ENTIRE NATIONAL IDENTITY BUILT ON LIES: we are all sons of Socrates (but not gay)". Greek writer Mr. Lenos Hristidis 19/09/2009 “If any Western import has harmed Greece, it's been neither rationalism, nor the political system, nor technology. It's been the idea of the continuity of Hellenic civilization.” Nikos Dimou, Greek intellectual "Greece is the most artificial of all artificial nations that resulted from the dissolution of the Ottoman empire." Yerasimos Kaklamanis (Analysis of Neohellenic Bourgeois Ideology, page 13).
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@@Dynamo_Kyiv_Fans_Peristeriou stop the nonsense those people that you call them albanians fought hard for the greek independance.They didnt support the turkalbanians.We are proud of the arvanites because they are fervent patriots of my country..If you name them albanians they wiil prpbable kill you.I have relatives arvanites so i have first hand information.Noane supresses them in the past they were ministers priministers diplomats that shows how much we respected them their contribution for forming new Greece...So be QUITE
The prosfigi and Pontians aren’t even European, what the fuck you on about? No one can prove that we haven’t been on those lands for thousands of years. Our DNA is one that belongs to the region.
The last girl said "we are here and we will be here". I laughed so hard with this 😂. Kinda bold statement considering how many Slavs have been kicked out of Greece, I wouldn't be so sure about that girl...
@@slavicpride3078 They are not and this was just as sad for me as it is for you because it means that the Turks are not completely Muslim Greeks which is unfortunate. But macedonians are Slavosized illyrians and Thracians
To be Macedonian you must fight to be Macedonian, especially in Greece and Bulgaria! But, we will fight on as we have been doing in the past.
МАКЕДОНИЈА ВЕЧНА ♥
Thank you for doing this story
long live macedonians . what are greeks scared of a macedonian dance lol ..
Noane proveked anything just words from the other side to provoke impressions lol...
well reported.. thank you
Nobody can take you indentity you you are Macedonian and always you will be Macedonian
And macedons are Hellenes!
@@GR-vm9qbMacedonia
The same for Albanians in Greece sadly
yeah im macedonian i have friend that is albanian from tesaloniki and you dont have any rrights in greece
@@izmeuistineimaste3527 the stupid friend is an immigrant, he came to Greece because he had nothing to eat in Albania.
If you want, take in your country and give them whatever rights you want
LMAO albanian are immigants not natives
@@Dynamo_Kyiv_Fans_Peristeriou That’s bullshit and propaganda, modern Greeks are African Albanian Turko Slavic orthodox
well said. here here keep going:where is this village
Pateli is in Lerin ( Florina) region
Proud ethnic Macedonias.
When Prince Otto came to Athens he looked around and asked, where are these Greeks, where can I meet them. The locals told him, sir this an Albanian village. Largely the majority of Greeks spoke Albanian until the 20th century with little to know knowledge of Greece during the Ottoman and byzantium empire, that's over 1 and a half melenium lol. If language makes the person then I am half German Half Latin for speaking English right now
There were many Greeks in other regions of the ottoman empire
@@JOHNsotiriadis98 you
Your half country is albanian tho
You are Slavs, it is us, Macedonians, Greeks that buried your Bulgarian arses, now our salads in Macedonia taste even better. What do you do when you read all those university papers on the Greekness of Macedonia, and do you avoid the worlds museums, when Macedonian history is again 100% Greek.
You Slavs are just so incredibly stupid is defies belief. Identifying yourself, with the name of the people that buried you.
By the way do you like your new name 'North' Macedonia. We are still MACEDONIA, no name change required. Don't get too used to it, Albanians will outnumber you in 20 years.
@@Dynamo_Kyiv_Fans_Peristeriou your half country only includes parts of two regions in greece not even the whole regions so get lost
Respect
Respect Macedonians!
Mhm ❤️
DA STE ZDRAVI I ZIVI !!!!!!!!
This is originally Macedonian soil msg from Australia respect
Originally Hellenic Macedonian soil as the North Macedonian government recognised in Prespes
@@Chris_919 illegally the Albanians and zoran zaev
@@Chris_919 You are helenic Gypsies ✌️
@@balkancarbalkanfun7540 Your resort to racism shows your low level of intelligence
@@Chris_919 I'm not racist,just telling you that you are chergar gjupaki.
Pozdrav od Solun !
It will be ok if there are No Macedonians No Greeks No Serbs etc on the condition that we are all Orthodox Christians!
And if we really are Orthodox Christians we would be together as brothers and sisters instead of enemys.
Oh really? Are you discriminating now us, atheists? What about us? We are harmless and yet, we have a culture and language that we nurture, which presents an identity. But religion and belief are to choose.
*Macedonia should be united*
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Yeah,but that Englishisraeliamerikanogermano flag... 🤔
Macedonians are not considered a "minority" in Greece, they are part of Greece, just like Sparta and other peopel and regions from Ancient Greece. Slavic Macedonians peopbably are not recognized separately from Bulgarian/Slavic minority.
bulgars are slovenizied tatars and they have nothing in common with Macedonians
@@nikolajovanovski5409 yep, partially correct. Bulgaria is 1/3 Thracian, 1/3 Bulgars (tucik tribe), and 1/3 Slavic.
Macedonia was part of the ancient Greek world until 146 BC; that year Rome conquered Macedonia, Greece and Epirus; and from that moment it was not heard aorund about Greece or Macedonia until 1821 when Germans and other European powers incited and supported the Greek independence. Meantime, the Macedonians were slavicized and there was no separate identity until Ilinden and Titto's SFRY of Macedonia to spike Bulgaria and Greece at the same time. If you want to be Macedonian, you need to take Macedonia over from Greece, Pela and Vergina are in Greece and that was the heart of Macedonia; not Skopje - according to Romans, Skupi (aka Skopje in Slavic) was an Illyrian city.
Also, you might want to search for an ever elusive "Macedonian" language that is not Bulgarian. I don't want to sound mean, but how can I discern between my "Macedonian" friends from the Bulgarian friends who speak the same language. The words that you use which are not Bulgarian, are Serbian... and rightfully so, because you are between Serbia and Bulgaria, and both countries have fought over the Vardar (aka Axios) region.
Samo gordo brakja Makedonci!
king Otto of Greece! Look this up and the modern foundation of "Greeks" If they care so much about history they will certainly care about this!
PleaSE Listen I tell truth! No ego
Says Vladimir the TartaroBulgar! 🤣
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 Says the son of Albanian and Turks.
1/2 of your country are ethnic Albanian and Turks. Also all theese people in the video had ancestors that fought against IMRO with the greek gangs.It a same how the Greek state treats them
Bravo da zive Makedonija
Alexander will rise again after 2000 years of his rest... and bring Athenians to their knees again
If he rose again, he would call you barbarians (non-Hellenes), conquer you and proceed to hellenize you until you spoke Greek and had a Hellenized culture... like he did back ~2300 years ago
Samo napred
Some quotes from famous Slavs:
1. Kirov Gligoroff. First President of the newly founded Republic of FYROM:
“We are Slavs who immigrated to this region in the 6th century AD. We have nothing to do with Alexander the Great."
2. Ljubco Georgievski, Prime Minister: "Ancient Macedonia is not here in Skopje but further south"
3. Miroslav Grecev, Mayor of Skopje: "It's just ridiculous our association with Alexander the Great"
4. Toni Deskoski
Professor of Law at the University of Skopje:
"We are trying to transform a Slavic nation into a Greek one"
5. Lyubica Acevska
Ambassador of Skopje to the USA: "We are Slavs and speak a Slavic language"
6. Peter Silegov, Mayor of Skopje:
"Alexander the Great was never part of our history, it has become the last few years"
We aren’t Slavs. Stop trying to laro around as a Macedonian.
Абе дечки кој од овие е историчар?
Ian Worthington, 'Philip II of Macedon', Yale university 2008.
Not much needs to be said about the Greekness of ancient Macedonia. It is undeniable!
@@Mkmkmkshελληνικά μιλάς;
Some quotes from some famous Greeks:
“It’s the fault of a German. [Winckelmann] We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, ‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates,’ and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.” Greek author and intellectual Nikos Dimou
“What led to the great expansion of this phenomenon of Arianistic values was the "Science of Antiquity" in schools where THE TEACHING OF CLASSICAL CIVILIZATION FALSIFIED THE DISCIPLINE WITH THE FICTITIOUS, FICTIONAL HELLENISTIC MODEL.”
“Hellenic civilization as we know it was in fact THE INVENTION OF THE "SCIENCE OF ANTIQUITY", of classics. As such it could have been (and was) endowed with whatever signification the discipline found useful.” Stathis Gourgouris, ‘A Nation of Dreams’
‘The Macedonian nation accomplished, in the general history [of civilization], a different mission from that of the Hellenic nation’ (Paparrigopoulos 1849-53, 1.193); Paparrigopoulos. ‘Textbook of General History’ 1849
"GREEK NATIONAL IDENTITY DID NOT EXIST before the 19th century. It was created from the outside in an era of intense nationalism, colonialism and expansionist imperialism (p. 16). In short, SOME PEOPLE FROM ABROAD TOLD US IN THE 19TH CENTURY THAT WE WERE GREEKS AND WE ACCEPTED IT IN ORDER TO SAVE THEM SELLING THE FAIRY TALE THAT WE ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE ANCIENT GREEKS." As quoted by O Konstantinos, ‘Mud, Forgeries, Nationalist Frenzy’
"In those days [1800s - 1900s] there were Arvanites (Albanians), Vlachs and Slavs. All of them had to become part of one national body. And so they became. BUT THIS IS NOT TO SAY IN THIS DAY AND AGE WE SHOULD BE UNDER THE ILLUSION THAT WE ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF PERICLES." Professor Thanos Veremis, transcript from interview
"For if any non-Greek power, whether Persian or Macedonian, were to achieve world dominion, the typical form of the Greek state would suffer death and destruction." Demosthenes, Famous statesman from antiquity,
“When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”. Harilaos Trikoupis, Greek Prime Minister 1882-1895
“The real Greeks would never have driven out the Turks. They were too degraded even to wish for liberty. For many years after we had achieved our own independence they called the times of Turkish rule ‘the good times.’ IT WAS THE ALBANIANS AND MACEDONIANS AND FOREIGNERS who fought the Turks.” General Kalergi, author Greek Revolution of 1843 and Greek Minister
"...Modern Greeks being a messy Greco-Roman-Slavic-Turkic-Semitic lot emerging from the Ottoman Empire who with the leadership of people like Byron declared themselves Greek - The forced westernization process which began in Ottoman Greece between 1821 and 1921, was more about CREATING GREEKS rather than liberating them - Images of Hellenes were invented in the minds of Enlightened British, French and German aristocrats and bourgeoisie". Mr. Fotis Kapetopoulos, 15 Sep 2009
"..Suddenly, we got all those pastors who inserted the idea that they actually are not shepherds but proud sons, grandchildren and relatives of Pericles, Demostenisa and Pythagoras, the names which they have never heard of, but it looked like the Europeans to respect.(sic) So we have essentially THE ENTIRE NATIONAL IDENTITY BUILT ON LIES: we are all sons of Socrates (but not gay)". Greek writer Mr. Lenos Hristidis 19/09/2009
“If any Western import has harmed Greece, it's been neither rationalism, nor the political system, nor technology. It's been the idea of the continuity of Hellenic civilization.” Nikos Dimou, Greek intellectual
"Greece is the most artificial of all artificial nations that resulted from the dissolution of the Ottoman empire." Yerasimos Kaklamanis (Analysis of Neohellenic Bourgeois Ideology, page 13).
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Sorry people, but you ignore major historical facts which make this video offensive.
It’s not offensive if you deny the rights of entire group
Major historical fact Modern greeks are Turks, Slavs and other people. Look in the mirror , greeks are short dark and hairy and that's just the women.
@@RU-Aussie Look at your country 1/2 Are ethnic Albanians
@@Dynamo_Kyiv_Fans_Peristeriou stop the nonsense those people that you call them albanians fought hard for the greek independance.They didnt support the turkalbanians.We are proud of the arvanites because they are fervent patriots of my country..If you name them albanians they wiil prpbable kill you.I have relatives arvanites so i have first hand information.Noane supresses them in the past they were ministers priministers diplomats that shows how much we respected them their contribution for forming new Greece...So be QUITE
YOU ARE NOT MAKEDONIANS
tsipras says so and greece signed the deal . the word greek or greece never existed before 1821 a creation of king otto . live with it
@@baits9301 The real name is HELLAS.Greece is an Italiy-Latin name not Germanic.
@@baits9301 Tsipras is bastard and do all for money
@@Gkogkas greek paliment admits to macedonian genocide here is the link in greek youtube .
ua-cam.com/video/whdkDnxEdU4/v-deo.html
The prosfigi and Pontians aren’t even European, what the fuck you on about? No one can prove that we haven’t been on those lands for thousands of years. Our DNA is one that belongs to the region.
This isn't even greek music
because its Macedonian idiot
The last girl said "we are here and we will be here". I laughed so hard with this 😂. Kinda bold statement considering how many Slavs have been kicked out of Greece, I wouldn't be so sure about that girl...
She looks Turkish ,not slavic.
Just go cry in a corner ok
Greeks and turks from anatolia are geneticaly similar so yeah 😂😂😂👌👌👌🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰
@@slavicpride3078 lmfao. Why do you Even care about the fake balkan Slavs
@@slavicpride3078 They are not and this was just as sad for me as it is for you because it means that the Turks are not completely Muslim Greeks which is unfortunate. But macedonians are Slavosized illyrians and Thracians