Something interesting I found in OMORI

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  • @stormtrooperatt7713
    @stormtrooperatt7713 3 роки тому +978

    Considering how I believe you could go through the vines and go back if you check the vines enough, could you get back to sweetheart's castle after it's gone?

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +114

      Ooh, that sounds interesting!

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +153

      Hmm, it doesn't seem to be working. I tried spamming Z on the vines and exiting/reentering the room with both the castle still up and the castle gone. Where did you learn about this?

    • @thewizard7886
      @thewizard7886 3 роки тому +101

      @@SakuyaIzaYee you can only enter black space from the castle side, when you inspect the vines it’ll teleport you to the other side into black space. I believe you can also enter black space by repeatedly inspecting the telescope in the dungeon

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +38

      @@thewizard7886 Huh. Okay, I'll try that too.

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +64

      @The Wizard Oh, I got it! Thank you for this *knowledge.*

  • @jillythebean3639
    @jillythebean3639 3 роки тому +880

    thats so fuckin interesting that when youre in sweethearts castle during the midgame, when you look through the vines you're looking into blackspace before even knowing blackspace exists. WOW this game just gets cooler and cooler. what a masterpiece in storytelling

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +34

      Agree!

    • @BeeTheTravler
      @BeeTheTravler 2 роки тому +22

      I didn’t even know black space “existed” on the same plane as the normal head space

    • @melisanasrullah361
      @melisanasrullah361 2 роки тому +12

      @@BeeTheTravler it didnt, but after the reset in the hikikomori route blackspace started seeping through headspace.

    • @Missingo32
      @Missingo32 2 роки тому +15

      @@melisanasrullah361 I think it's implied that black space simply bleeds over into headspace over time, be it due to the connection from memories with Basil, or from other means. There are references to the merging regardless of route; the first that comes to mind is Kite Kid's mention of "dark voids" appearing in the sky, though I believe there are other references as well.

  • @MillyKKitty
    @MillyKKitty 3 роки тому +1076

    Omori could not expand his mind enough to take that into consideration

    • @lunadesert
      @lunadesert 3 роки тому +116

      Expand your mind, OMORI!

    • @morjay8243
      @morjay8243 3 роки тому +61

      Expand!

    • @itzpatrick2450
      @itzpatrick2450 3 роки тому +50

      Need to buy that 1TB storage

    • @ST4_R
      @ST4_R 3 роки тому +29

      *E X P A N D D O N G, O M O RI!*

    • @StafkiGTN
      @StafkiGTN 3 роки тому +7

      @@morjay8243 Expand!

  • @Galigya
    @Galigya 3 роки тому +553

    Can't even look this game in the eyes anymore. Such a glaring plothole should make OMOCAT ashamed of what she's done. /s

    • @cyez6840
      @cyez6840 3 роки тому +44

      *she

    • @winstonthepooh9388
      @winstonthepooh9388 3 роки тому +9

      LMAOO

    • @Galigya
      @Galigya 3 роки тому +10

      @@cyez6840 thanks for the correction, it's been edited!

    • @yerlocaljacc8461
      @yerlocaljacc8461 3 роки тому +11

      Ok dude.. don't you think your going a *bit* over the top? Tbh I don't really care nothing is perfect and omocat has done enough already by making the game Soo relax

    • @winstonthepooh9388
      @winstonthepooh9388 3 роки тому +32

      @@yerlocaljacc8461 I don’t know if you’re joking or not but there is a /s for a reason ya know.

  • @itlg5554
    @itlg5554 3 роки тому +636

    I really respect you for putting time and effort in order to find this little detail. I would be much too lazy to even try.

  • @ratato5714
    @ratato5714 3 роки тому +85

    Okay so my (dumb) theory is that since you took over sweethearts castle, he suppressed the memory of it, so it’s in black space

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +31

      HOLD ON- that would make a lot of sense! That's certainly no "dumb" theory!

  • @Turtis
    @Turtis 3 роки тому +476

    i can’t believe that omoli did such terrible things back in 1999

    • @gayahhbihh
      @gayahhbihh 3 роки тому +17

      _..._
      _is this what i think it is?_

    • @Shanoyu19271
      @Shanoyu19271 3 роки тому +6

      wait a minute

    • @loafzero
      @loafzero 3 роки тому +51

      cool little detail i found on the omori wiki about this:
      "The descriptions of the real world photos confirm that, in the year it documents, April 9th, June 21st, and September 9th are all school days, and that March 9th and March 10th are a Saturday and a Sunday, respectively. Within OMORI's implied time period, the only years which fit all of these requirements are 1991, 1996, and 2002."

    • @grey-spark
      @grey-spark 2 роки тому +7

      @@loafzero the game takes place 3-4 years after the photos are taken so 1999 does check out.

    • @sackofpotatoes4146
      @sackofpotatoes4146 2 роки тому +16

      @@grey-spark also, in the hikikomori route if you ask Hero to take Jawsums job, you can see the picture frame in his office say (Jawsum, 198x-199x), so it does take place in 1999

  • @SbubbyS
    @SbubbyS 3 роки тому +195

    officially unplayable /s

  • @GatoEpico
    @GatoEpico 3 роки тому +162

    if anything it would have been done on purpose
    people called out on the knife vs bat with nails dilemma but then people found out aubrey never hits you with it and the description of the bat says "deadlier than a steak knife" meaning it was all planned.
    I expected the wet docks to have a plothole where you see present aubrey sitting in a place right next to omori in the hikki route but then it was found out it only happens in the true route.

    • @lovelykitty42
      @lovelykitty42 3 роки тому +18

      yeah i think it’s supposed to refer to how omori shuts out the negative things, the house might have had negative memories attached to them. so omori tried to cover it up

    • @himedo1512
      @himedo1512 3 роки тому +11

      Except Aubrey does hit with the bat. Sometimes it says "Aubrey attacks" and plays the same animation that attacking with the bat does in the dreamworld and does more damage than omoris knife (which reinforces the deadlier thing) if they wanted to demonstrate that she doesn't use it, why wouldn't they use the fist animation like they gave for omori without the knife?

    • @dropthehatantonycraft7516
      @dropthehatantonycraft7516 2 роки тому +5

      @@himedo1512 A crushing arm swing.

    • @DerekK.2423
      @DerekK.2423 2 роки тому

      I thought all bats with nails were named Lucille.

  • @YourLilBrother
    @YourLilBrother 3 роки тому +65

    Uh something that doesn't make sense in black space? Yeah that isn't unusual in black space.

  • @chanayplease
    @chanayplease 3 роки тому +48

    Lol I know I'm like 2 months late, but this reminds me of the Black Space in the true route? Somewhere, in one of the rooms you see Mari w/her brain exposed or on her head. When you talk to her she tells Omori/Sunny to expand his mind, the more you interact w/her the bigger her brain til she's just a brain. Maybe it just showcases Sunny's limitation or just something Omocat and friends had forgotten.

  • @pheo4156
    @pheo4156 3 роки тому +21

    Maybe the Castle still exists, but had Just been moved? Like, the room was put atop it? Poor mole sprouts

  • @Parallel_LCD
    @Parallel_LCD 3 роки тому +15

    what a massive oversight from the dev team. boy i really hope somebody got fired for that blunder

  • @raniehachuela8364
    @raniehachuela8364 2 роки тому +2

    I almost thought this was another troll video considering how short it is but no, thanks for all the info its an very interesting theory.

  • @mrcheese1328
    @mrcheese1328 3 роки тому +42

    This migth not be a plothole.
    Maybe the keeper just moves the castle from its original location to Black Space.

  • @novelle.27
    @novelle.27 2 роки тому +1

    it’s so sad to me what the castle turns into when Omori takes ownership of it… he just wants his whole family back :(

  • @Averageinternetdweller
    @Averageinternetdweller 3 роки тому +21

    I want to explain the plothole as nice as posible (probably nobody will see this but)
    The first point is that you are in extended black space, a continuation of things Omori send there so Sunny couldn't learn the truth
    Secondly in the castle while you look at the vines you can see something, and something isn't a memory that Omori can erase, so that explains why you see the castle as the same
    And last, back with Omori, this isn't his first time going around in his dream world, because all the times Omori would get stuck and needed to reset so he could try, for 4 years, one of the instances that shows this is that there is a skeleton with a ribbon in the dungeon that if you interact with it says (this is from memory) aubrey. So it got stuck in extended black space because remember, Sunny had a crush on aubrey
    So yeah, Omocat thought of that a lot, meaning that is not a plothole

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +2

      Wow, I've never thought of the skeletons like that before. I've always wondered what they were doing there and that might just explain it.

    • @Averageinternetdweller
      @Averageinternetdweller 3 роки тому +3

      @@SakuyaIzaYee yep, also if you fight humprey you can see there are skeletons
      There's a theory about that saying is just the pasts selves of the gang (excluding Omori)

  • @kurimiaisukurimu
    @kurimiaisukurimu 3 роки тому +327

    I remember I found that entrance to Black Space through the vines completely by accident. Do you know if it's possible to return to Sweetheart's Castle through Black Space after taking ownership of the castle?

    • @alanp741
      @alanp741 3 роки тому +41

      there should be. I've seen a vid about the black space entrances besides the laptop and one of them was sweetheart's castle. However I don't know whether or not you can just wait until it will let you in like with jumping into the docks on true route through the room with something saying "I love you" or you need to spam look

    • @sireaustin
      @sireaustin 3 роки тому +6

      That's a really good question, I wonder if it would crash or just load the map like normal?

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +20

      I'm going to make another video addressing some of these ideas.

    • @wonderrxo2904
      @wonderrxo2904 2 роки тому

      I did the same it was so weird

    • @whenthe7633
      @whenthe7633 2 роки тому

      I found the entrance to the vines bcs of the running kel who i saw was having a seizure inside the walls

  • @jumnyum
    @jumnyum 3 роки тому +10

    Interesting find!
    My personal take is this this area beyond the vines exists simply as a median between headspace and blackspace. I’d compare it to the elevator in Jawsome’s office. If suddenly the entirety of the last resort crumbled down, the elevator would still exist if you were to enter it from black space, but you wouldn’t be able to leave the elevator back into headspace. It just turns into a dead end.
    After all, this side of the vines ISNT accessible in the main route or even in hikki until way later. So perhaps it’s apart of black space and not headspace.

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +2

      Yes! I think it also makes it more interesting that the elevator in Mr. Jawsum's office takes you to Black Space 1, which (I'm not actually entirely sure) cannot be returned to, compared to Sweetheart's Castle which has a connection to Black Space 2, a place that you _can_ return to. I believe both entrances, even if they bring you to different parts of Black Space, are similar in the way that the area of Black Space they bring you to is a dead end. Stabbing yourself/being caught by a red hand only brings you back to where you last were in Headspace, opposed to the Black Space Nexus.
      If there is a way to explore outside of those isolated areas of Black Space 1 and 2 from Headspace then I would love to be informed!

    • @jumnyum
      @jumnyum 3 роки тому

      @@SakuyaIzaYee There are a few different BS1 entrances that have the characters within them. I'm not positive on where the other two are, but there's something on Smiley Star's channel that has them. Sadly I dont think they can be returned to.

  • @Heart_Stick
    @Heart_Stick 2 роки тому +2

    Imagine they're just out there with the entire courtyard demolished and they're trying to escape the oncoming bulldozers

  • @aubster
    @aubster 3 роки тому +7

    Ohh what a neat little detail! Makes me want to explore more in my Hikikomori run
    (Ive been spending too much time in orange oasis. Im addicted to dino dig)

  • @lyrakae
    @lyrakae 3 роки тому +13

    It's def interesting however i just think that's Omocat just forgot about it. Shit like this happend. Tho i'm interested, She something anwser on the steam community tab to question and such, I think i'll be fun to show her that's and see how she choose to react! The game is still behing updated constantly so maybe she'll add something there?

  • @FireyDeath4
    @FireyDeath4 2 роки тому +2

    Why are the sprout moles even trying to go through in the first place?
    There's...not really an "outside" there. Just a landscape of darkness and messy random stuff.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying 2 роки тому +2

      Do they know that tho? They just trying to get outside

  • @mothramaster1837
    @mothramaster1837 2 роки тому

    Those sprout moles are stuck between a void and a thorny place

  • @alanp741
    @alanp741 3 роки тому +8

    maybe a bug? or maybe a way to go back to the original castle before the game soft locks you out of it

  • @CybaChurro
    @CybaChurro 3 роки тому +93

    heckin omoli is frickin wack

  • @pachicore
    @pachicore 3 роки тому +1

    Wow the keeper's a con artist. Give me back the castle so i can get the red knife damnit

  • @gatoreptiliano8785
    @gatoreptiliano8785 2 роки тому

    Too elaborate considering that not even the Headspace map changes when you make the castle dissapear. It is still on the map.

  • @SonicMaster519
    @SonicMaster519 2 роки тому

    I think it could just be Black Space screwing with Sunny’s memories in the Headspace.

  • @DuskNeko
    @DuskNeko 3 роки тому +2

    There's a whole palace still available but you only got access to a single room

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому +1

      I see it more like the castle became entirely reformed into that one room because Omori desired it.

  • @undomielkay
    @undomielkay 3 роки тому +16

    I mean, you don't know if the castle is still there or not (?

  • @LogCatDW
    @LogCatDW 2 роки тому +1

    Prolly the castle just teleport somewhere

  • @mariosonicfan2010
    @mariosonicfan2010 2 роки тому

    Local sprout moles literally too stupid to stop existing.

  • @da-barrera
    @da-barrera 3 роки тому +2

    I guess that's just one more thing to patch up
    Literally

  • @AJ-cp3es
    @AJ-cp3es 3 роки тому +1

    it’s so amazing that you found this ! awesome work

  • @MasterIsabelle
    @MasterIsabelle 2 роки тому

    I realised that if you look at those vines,something would appear, since blackspace was connected to the vines at sweetheart’s castle, that means something appeared through that door

  • @SnrubSource
    @SnrubSource 2 роки тому +1

    my justification is: it's a dream

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer 2 роки тому

    the castle may have ended up in blackspace.

  • @rxincandy_V
    @rxincandy_V 2 роки тому

    i know this is a year old but i think that wether it's gone or not it would always connect to that, it changing doesn't necessarily mean it'd erase omori's memory of it

  • @Strangespacestars
    @Strangespacestars 3 роки тому +2

    awesome possum news, also can't believe the road to the black space was just vines away

    • @Waluigiman
      @Waluigiman 3 роки тому +1

      I got the feeling Omori knew something was out there because when I first looked out through the vines when I was doing the sweetheart castle there was one of those fear eye things out there for a second.

  • @Serenity_S3
    @Serenity_S3 3 роки тому +9

    interesting discovery!

  • @Blahants
    @Blahants 3 роки тому +1

    Good find! You're very observant.

  • @pef_v6107
    @pef_v6107 2 роки тому

    Bro cant believe this game is LITERALLY unplayable now!!!

  • @jaydenliangga2337
    @jaydenliangga2337 3 роки тому +1

    I see the bot is gone

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink 2 роки тому

    I pretty sure they thought nobody would bother double checking or planned to make a script tied to Sweetheart's castle but simple forgot. It is Black Space 2. It would be hard even for the developers to catch mistakes.

  • @borger8045
    @borger8045 3 роки тому +8

    correct me if im wrong but a courtroom isn't part of the building so it might just not've been transformed

    • @SakuyaIzaYee
      @SakuyaIzaYee  3 роки тому

      Hmm, I see what you mean but the Keeper of the Castle explains how it created everything beyond that door (the entrance to Sweetheart's Castle) in Sprout Mole Village _specifically for_ Sweetheart because she desired it. Once Sweetheart dies, Omori is able to claim that whole area (assumedly including the entire Castle along with the courtyard) as his own desire, changing it to that room with the chair and frames on the wall.

  • @h0lodm0966
    @h0lodm0966 2 роки тому

    probably a bug or when dreams dont fully load something? interesting find though

  • @TurquoiseIcy
    @TurquoiseIcy 2 роки тому

    I would say that this is not a plothole because Black Space is a disjointed section of Sunny's mind, it doesn't need to have continuity with the rest of Headspace.

  • @Cool_ICE69
    @Cool_ICE69 2 роки тому

    THATS SO COOL THIS GAME IS AMAZING

  • @Rustcat666
    @Rustcat666 3 роки тому

    This is really cool! Great job!!

  • @DerGecko92_old
    @DerGecko92_old 3 роки тому +2

    SOMETHING interesting

  • @Simon_Dunkaccino
    @Simon_Dunkaccino 2 роки тому

    why do at least two characters have an entrance into blackspace

  • @e1ord323
    @e1ord323 3 роки тому +5

    that was really interesting

  • @countcrocodile1115
    @countcrocodile1115 3 роки тому +3

    Omocat forgot

  • @fauxparadox
    @fauxparadox 3 роки тому +1

    I don't think it's physically connected to to the castle though

  • @Stroimex
    @Stroimex 3 роки тому

    Interesting, I guess it might have been a bit of an oopsie

  • @thinkublu
    @thinkublu 2 роки тому

    I know you acknowledge it's not a big issue but I wanna say - I don't even think it's a plothole, since it's all dream logic, and the the whole thing is falling apart in black space

  • @RedstoneRuler
    @RedstoneRuler 3 роки тому +2

    framerate 100

  • @p0is0n49
    @p0is0n49 2 роки тому

    You can enter black space and exit it as you please??

  • @sockholderz
    @sockholderz 3 роки тому +1

    i found this pretty neat

  • @tommasomaruffi1306
    @tommasomaruffi1306 3 роки тому +1

    So, do you think that there's a zone that leads to the end of the Endless Highway too?

  • @magnusr.poulsen2437
    @magnusr.poulsen2437 3 роки тому +1

    Spam OMOCAT with this video for a patch.

  • @Jalecko
    @Jalecko 2 роки тому

    good find

  • @BakedBanana
    @BakedBanana 2 роки тому

    oh.

  • @horacehilden3986
    @horacehilden3986 3 роки тому +1

    Literally unplayable

  • @zuem1739
    @zuem1739 3 роки тому +12

    unplayable

    • @ahorribleterribleperson
      @ahorribleterribleperson 3 роки тому +1

      What's unplayable?

    • @reedspun
      @reedspun 3 роки тому +10

      ​@@ahorribleterribleperson Omori is ruined, this plothole has destroyed any enjoyment that could be gleaned from the game. My immersion is shattered like glass. Omori is literally unplayable. 0/10.
      /s

    • @ahorribleterribleperson
      @ahorribleterribleperson 3 роки тому +6

      @@reedspun tbh, it isn't a plot hole since this is in Sunny's head, so instead instead of breaking immersion, you should be more immersed because the game shows the fact that a child's dreams are inconsistent at times.

    • @reedspun
      @reedspun 3 роки тому +7

      @@ahorribleterribleperson This was a joke.

    • @ahorribleterribleperson
      @ahorribleterribleperson 3 роки тому

      @@reedspun I know

  • @twistedturk5708
    @twistedturk5708 3 роки тому +1

    oh hey i tested this too lol

  • @combustiblelemons1894
    @combustiblelemons1894 2 роки тому

    bruh this literally makes the game unplayeable

  • @joe-lq6jz
    @joe-lq6jz 3 роки тому +5

    cool

  • @Axcyantol
    @Axcyantol 2 роки тому

    i don't play games on steam :D

  • @paintcatpokemonco628
    @paintcatpokemonco628 3 роки тому

    This is a programmation problem not plot hole😂

  • @spaceyboy
    @spaceyboy 3 роки тому +2

    This... Is an utter outrage. Unacceptable. #cancelomori (/j)

  • @mriyathewanderer4860
    @mriyathewanderer4860 2 роки тому

    Hi

  • @crabblab91
    @crabblab91 3 роки тому +2

    0/10 game to many plot holes

  • @bor_daruniversal
    @bor_daruniversal 3 роки тому

    Damn