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True story: I once took a job listing from a “merchant out of town” who needed me to deliver some packages for him, which eventually grew into a job where I’d be selling said packages or trading them in and getting a cut of the money. A few months later, three policemen knocked on my door as I was about to leave for college and seized all my electronics and took me into the station. Turned out everything I was selling had been stolen, but the crazy part was that the money was being used to fund a local terrorist sect. Thankfully I had all the receipts and message history, so worked with them and gave any evidence. Still didn’t get my phone or laptop back for months though as they were going through digital forensics. Which was a nightmare as I was doing a media degree at college.
Im genuinely surprised you didnt get charged for anything. Usually with something that severe, they punish you regardless if you were oblivious or not. Your cooperation with them was probably your saving grace.
I absolutely love how Charlie has his entire screen captured. Just wide open, no window captured, as if he just found the record screen source and pressed the record button. The personification of "it works, so it works." I love you Charlie, you're a comedian without trying.
"Animal cruelty crimes get off easy" (not exactly word for word what you said but yeah). Went to court for possession of marijuana before legal in my state. I had a bunch of people before me to be given a sentence by the judge. One was there for animal cruelty and got a slap on the wrist. Even the shop lifter got a lighter sentence than me and him. The shop lifter had to pay like a $200 fine. For having a gram of weed I had to do 6 months of TASC (random weekly drug testing). But the "fun" thing is that I was so nervous about peeing with somebody looking so I would overhydrate every time. To guarantee I had to pee. The thing that was awful about that is the place was an hour away and the wait in line can be anywhere from 5 min to like almost an hour. One time I got stuck in traffic and swear my bladder was about to blow up. And when you are overhydrated they think you are trying to hide something so you get another 6 months of TASC as a punishment. It's fucking bullshit. Dude I'm just pee shy leave me alone. My first time at TASC I overfilled my bladder so much I accidentally peed on the bottle they give you. So being courteous I put the cap on then washed it off. Apparently that's a huge "no-no" and he was like "I might have to write you up with a violation". Bitch its my first day and I was trying to be courteous so you don't get piss on your gloves and table. And every month of TASC is like ~100.
Still don't understand the big fuckin whoop about weed use, legal or illegal. If you're using it safely it has so many benefits, I don't get the clutching of pearls attitude with it
@@HitPay they’re too busy deleting a person’s account for making something that isn’t directed towards fetal alcohol syndrome babies who’s parents probably do lines of the funny sugar in some Detroit slum and don’t work
@Drinker_Of_ Milk well the thing is normal people don’t torture the animals before killing them, that’s totally inhumane. plus torturing animals is an early sign of a serial killer
@Drinker_Of_ Milk yes it is because torturing an innocent animal and killing it is one of the worst things a person can do. you probably wouldn’t be saying this stuff if it was a human but just because it’s an animal it has less value right? i also hope you’re not implying that because we torture cows/pigs/chickens for food somebody shouldn’t be charged for torturing cats/dogs.
@Drinker_Of_ Milk Yes that is worth 28 years that asshole should die in there actually. And it's not inconsistent, there's just a hierarchy when it comes to animals that are important to the human race emotionally. Killing farm animals is supposed to be done in a quick, easy, and humane way that doesn't cause the animals to suffer, not to mention its done for food. Slaughterhouses that do not kill their animals this way are typically investigated and shut down. In the case of hunting it is not only necessary due to population control, but it is also, again, most often done in a quick and humane way. Doing it by hand is usually just an unfortunate circumstance as a result of people not knowing wtf they're doing. Torturing and killing dogs, cats, horses, rodents, reptiles, and any animals typically kept as pets doesn't benefit anyone and is cruel and inhumane. (Unfortunately reptiles are very overlooked when it comes to animals that deal with abuse but they tend to get the worst of it :/ )
@Drinker_Of_ Milk I'm just gonna say that some people might react very badly to your opinion and you might want to remove it before you get harassed for making somebody read it.
@@TiberiusCousinsIt definitely was, if he cut arteries, he had time before he bled out, and probably knew it was still possible to be found and saved. He presumably didn’t want to risk a failed attempt
Fun fact: I used Craigslist to find a room to live in once. Years later, I accidentally discovered that the person I lived with was a child rapist who had a long rap sheet, having had previously served 13 years.
Near where I'm from, there was this guy named Tim Bosma who posted his truck on Craigslist to be sold, he took the prospective buyer for a drive, and was murdered. The killers were a rich guy (Dellen Millard, if you are interested) and his goon. The rich guy is pretty much a psychopath and manipulator and it is now believed that they murdered at least one other person (a woman they knew), and it's possible he has buried the remains of people on his property. So even things like vehicle deals can be dangerous on Craigslist.
@@TheTopCat650 the man murdered was the seller, the murderer was looking for a truck to "buy" ...I believe he wanted the truck for the "fire oven" he had bought to burn the bodies, it's a really crazy story behind the murder of Tim Bosma, the father and I think his ex-gf as well!
Oh man, I actually remember watching that "Craigslist Killer" movie a long time ago. Man, it was fucking awful and, as I've found out recently, was directed by the same bloke who directed that awful Get Carter remake.
I’m so glad he found tuv, I remember he was at 8k when I found one of his vids and now he’s at a wopping 800k, well deserved, shout out Charlie for shedding some light on him
my aunt once hired a babysitter from craigslist. i believe he was about one at the time. at some point he was crying real bad and wouldnt stop. she went into his room and shook his head until he stopped crying. i am not sure if she called anyone or if they found him when they were home. but he was rushed to the hospital and was there for a lengthy amount of time. the poor baby is basically braindead now. he gained a lot of weight over the years too. he just lays there and is barely reactive. all because that girl shook his head. its so sad.
What the fuck?????? But it's common knowledge to not shake babies as it results in death. I hope your aunt was allowed some sort of vindication as I can only imagine her immeasurable pain.
There's actually a name for that, "shaken baby syndrome," I believe and it's not that uncommon unfortunately. How anyone can look a baby in the eyes and think it's okay to violently shake them just to get them to quiet down is beyond me. It's twisted and sick. It doesn't even make sense that that would work, because even if it didn't hurt the baby, it would only make them more upset. I feel so bad for that kid and hopefully the babysitter is serving a long sentence for what she did.
He literally just googles information that is already easily and readily available, and his commentary offers nothing new to the content. Don't understand why people praise him.
Every time I hear of someone doing something awful to an animal, I always have to go and give my cat a little kiss and scritch. I can't imagine being so cruel.
Animal cruelty gets off light. Dude probably got 28 years for being on meth and heroin when he was caught. Not because the judge had the spontaneous enlightenment that animal cruelty is just as bad as cruelty to humans.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I am aware animals do not have rights in the U.S. and in most countries. Instead, people are punished for abusing animals because abusing animals often leads to abusing humans. That is why, while we hate it when cute animals get abused, animal cruelty still often carries light sentences.
26 years for animal related offences is incredibly high. One shudders to think what acts of depravity he committed in order to receive such a sentence.
Honestly I think animal cruelty people should just get executed since it's just pathetic to hurt something that depends on you. I'd even do it myself if I could shit id do that as volunteer work
My aunt tried to hire an assasin on Craiglist like five years back. It was the cops of course that responded, but she even went so far as to make poison in her house with 5 girls, 4 of them under 12 years old. She ended up serving 3 years in prison, but that was wild.
As expected I suppose. Anyone ever found any hitman services on darknet? I keep hearing about that shit but never found anything more than drugs and conspiracy forums and I've been using tor for years.
Was she in abusive relationship? Cause with making poison, that could be conspiracy to commit murder, if person she tried to kill was an abuser, could be why only 3 years
Yeah man he promotes so many of my favorite "smaller" creators on UA-cam nights. Gotta respect it. He can tell when people actually care about what they're doing.
When I worked at a local pet rescue shelter, we has people asking "How come you charge people to take away pets? Youre always overloaded and people want pets in their homes." 'its because of people like those @ 7:00 . If we handed out animals to anybody who wanted it, there would be dead animals all the time.
Honestly I feel like being surprised when you're murdered by someone you met over craigslist is like being surprised a pizza shows up when you order a pizza
This is an actually gem of an early comment compared to all the other unoriginal “wOw ChRale gIvE tUv bIg CrEdit!” Kinda crazy to see how quick someone will scramble to post a quick comment to get lots of thumbs up but you deserved this one lol
Ah yes Craig, I personally think his new venture into cartoons is great! Craig of the Creek is some of my favorite work from this guy. And his recent cameo in Halo is great!
@@eurotr4sh i guess but i feel like they'd have mentioned that cause alot of people actually kinda like to hear what happened to him and see if justice was served or not
I heard a 911 call on YT yrs ago about a pregnant girl that went to someone's house that was advertising free baby stuff on CraigsList & the pregnant woman was attacked & her baby was cut out of her, I didn't hear anything further about it, so I have no idea if she lived or if they ever caught the person that cut her baby out of her or if the baby even lived either.
Are you talking about the Lisa Montgomery case? If so then the baby fortunately survived and was given back to the father after Lisa was caught. Unfortunately, the mother was still alive and was left to bleed to death after she was ripped open.
I love that Charlie reflects at 1:20 and thinks what a lot of us probably thought: "I was in the NHS, it wasn't a big deal back then and I really think now they'll just let anyone in."
Not really. I mean if she put any thought into it, she would have offered a certain amount upfront (probably half) and the rest after services rendered. Also, even if you did accept the money, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to do even if you have no intention of going through Sith the murder (and I don't just mean because you are scamming someone out of their money) but I could be wrong about it. With how public she was with the hit, you would almost certainly be caught
@@frog1405 well are they going to report me to the police? Say "i paid this guy to kill somone but they didn't do it"? Cause like scamming people is illegal either way. But if you are smart you would just make a contract it was money for an nft or some painting. Then you also pay tax on it and avoid getting in trouble for that.
I remember seeing this on another channel a year ago. What sticks with me to this day: Dude recorded him skinning the puppies. "I'm making coats out of them."
There was a guy in my neighborhood in San Jose, CA that was finelly caught in his car sleeping in target parking lot with a orange tabby cat that was dead and had been sexually abused. Come to find out he was stealing cats threwout the neighborhoods to do this to cats. It hurt my heart, mind and thoughts so fu*king much, i couldn't follow up on it. It was around the same time my "orange tabby age 22 yrs old" went missing.
@@taylorbug9 I didn’t say I touch food right after touching my phone, I just said I used gloves and touched my phone I just said I worked in food service and have touched my phone (you can be a cashier too)
6:35 I read a story once about a guy who strapped explosives on his dog and killed it. It was ruled legal because since death was instant it was humane and not animal cruelty. The guy who got 28 years must've really tortured a number of these dogs, well deserved to get 28 years.
That’s disgusting. The mental gymnastics people will take to not punish pet killers and such is ridiculous. Reminds me of PETA trespassing, stealing a dog, and euthanizing it. Nothing was done to them.
@@ma.2089 It's not just mental gymnastics. It's the limitations on what can be enforced especially with animal abuse where countries just straight up do not have laws against things and there's no political will to do anything about it. Though then again there are situations where people commit premeditated racially/etc. motivated murder and judges handwave it away and give people the absolute minimum sentence possible, so yeah maybe.
Didn't expect for someone at NA to cover this case. Such a shame he only spent less than 2 years when it should have been more, at least everyone knows what he looks like and can't walk the streets freely like he did nothing wrong
8:27 I'm kind of tired of people saying this- hear me out, but everyone says that people that harm animals should get locked up because they're more likely to harm people as well. That is obviously true of course, but I feel like it distracts from the animals rights. There are a lot of people who torture animals but nothing comes of it because they're recognized as property. *Trigger warning* I have animal abuser relatives that still function in society because they haven't committed crimes against humans. These people torture kittens for fun and fill their dogs with bullets when they're tired of feeding them. They can't run away and they can't cry for help. It probably sounds wrong to most people, but it disgusts me even more than child abuse because of how defenseless they are. So what I'm trying to say is that I'm sick of always fucking hearing "animal abuse is a bad sign because they could turn into a murderer" shit. I just wish people would recognize that animals aren't disposable objects, they feel pain.
I see what you mean, you want people to not only recognize animal abuse because it can be attached to the abuse of humans, and instead just recognize animal abuse because its harming animals.
@@lampylightbulb yeah just to clarify, I never meant that abuse towards children was fine. Coming from someone who has been abused, molested, and witnessed animal abuse I can say that in my case I had the ability to escape, defend myself, confide in others, and ask for help. So yeah, both are bad, but targeting a child and targeting an animal are both pathetic in different ways. When someone tortures an animal they see it like a demented experiment or a game.
my old neighbor shot a 6 month old cat that I was feeding and thought it was funny and lied to animal control saying it was because the cat scratched her daughter when that wasn't why the cat was shot. He was shot bc she thought it was funny literally posted on fb about it saying "one shot to the head lmao". Since I was feeding him for a certain amount of time it was considered my cat and since the cat didn't have a rabies shot, the old neighbor who animal control wanted in trouble for what she did, could have sued me because the cat didn't have his rabies shot. Crazy how that works! She didn't get in trouble at all and what she did was a felony here in VA now. "Podcat" survived thanks to the spca but did lose an eye. Unfortunately he did get hit by a car a few months later. :(
I feel bad for tuv actually. Most people seeing his content through Charlie aren't going to go to tuv's channel. Instead, they're going to give the views to Charlie for his highlights.
@@metcas I mean but they are though to be honest lol.. Tuv blew up after Charlie posted him. Either way, I've been subbed to him since I first heard of him.
I was able to sell snow tires on Craigslist for a decent price, but that's about the extent of my ventures. Definitely would be wary of offering "services" on there.
I just wanna say your videos have been helping me with my depression bc my family life at home recently hasn’t been going well and your videos help me not think about it for the short period in the day there’s a new video. Thank you ❤️
I still remember the days I was scared to go home because I didn't know what was waiting for me each day. But I got better and you will too. Keep your head up and don't forget that you won't be there forever
I hope the best for you, hang in there! I remember 10 years ago, when I was young I felt the EXACT same way and Charlie’s videos made me feel that same comfort!
Gonna be completely honest met my know gf on crailgist I was down bad and decided to check it out and see a post that caught my eye decide to send her a message and everything worked out fine and I’m lucky to have met someone who wasn’t a serial killer 😂
I love Craigslist. Bought a fridge the other day and I’m gonna sell a mini fridge this weekend. Used to get work from there and opportunities to perform music at venues. I love you Craig.
I got 2 pet rats on craigslist and all their supplies for free. I drove like 3 hours away to get them lmao I love them dearly and haven’t regretted it a bit
I was in the National Honor Society and I can tell you it doesn’t really mean you’re intelligent. Yes intelligent people are more likely to be in it but you can totally get in if you’re of average intelligence _(or even marginally under average)_ but are more ambitious than average and a good test taker
You know I usually get slightly annoyed when streamers constantly pause the vid to state a comment but I wish Charlie would do that more He doesn’t pause the vid and just talks over it which is hilarious but makes me miss out on what the guy is saying and what Charlie is saying too
4:52 In Canada there was a scenario how a man got kidnaped and killed over a mediocre car he had tried to sell over craigslist... It was a huge story since nobody thought anyone would do such a thing
This guy is really just does an entire video in basically one shot no snippets. So his sarcasm is truly supremely colorful to make it all up on the spot. Cuz there is no way he remembers a script word for word like that.
Coming from a recovering poly addict, the dog killer deserves more especially since the drugs probably enhanced the pleasurable feeling from that deep dark desire he was feeding from his entire life. Just because im in recovery doesn't mean I'm justifying drug use. Every hard drug user I knew/know don't want to harm animals or hurt people, they're only hurting themselves which we know we do. Ive only met a couple possible killers through the drug world who couldn't get off without hurting someone or something and I always did something about it. I'm 5 yrs sober now and still believe that people are born with it
Glad to hear you're doing better, and yes I agree almost all people with drug addiction that I've met were people who were hurting and had no intention to harm others
Oh man that reminded me of a childhood trauma!! My third grade teacher used to come over after school sometimes to tutor my older brother and she’d given our family and whole set of encyclopedias. Inside one of the books was very salacious negatives of her!! I never was right after that! 😳
8:17 Peluchin Entertainment's (the end of Peluchin is pronounced just like "chin") case was still ongoing. But I remember that one of the things that made it difficult to predict his sentence was him being 15 yo at the time (too young to go to jail) and the chilean law about animal abuse was very very recent back then. I remember reading he had his trial last November. I didn't find any information about his sentence tho, but there's still hope he was sentenced to years of prison. And he was also accused of sexual assault in 2017 (he would've been 14 yo at the time). A really fucked up individual and a lot of people in my country will probably remember him for a long time lol
@@edn2674 100%, alguien debería haberse dado cuenta que el pendejo estaba cagado de la cabeza. Supuestamente, en algún momento dijo que la tortura era para ayudar a que se mejore, pero creo que él mismo se definía como un troll. Me cuesta creer que nadie (ni la familia ni el colegio) se haya dado cuenta de que había algo raro.
The biggest plot twist that somehow no one saw coming: Craigslist is by a guy named Craig.
@Don't read profile photo ok I wont
My dad has used Craigslist for years and I use it but I never knew
Isnt there also some knockoff called angieslist, or something?
Nah Tony
@Don't read profile photo Yeah, reverse psychology doesn’t work if we know “you’re” a bot
Charlie: “Craig is a very generic name, npc type shit”
Me: 😐
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Charlie: "Craig is a very generic name, npc type shit"
Me: 🦖
You got a quest available or something?
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Got a quest for me ?
“People are getting robbed and killed using our site CRAIG!”
MoistCraig: Well what you want us to do, Shut it down???
I am so confused
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@@Tw0Dots trigonometry
@@RafaelMunizYT soh cah toa
This was big brained
True story: I once took a job listing from a “merchant out of town” who needed me to deliver some packages for him, which eventually grew into a job where I’d be selling said packages or trading them in and getting a cut of the money.
A few months later, three policemen knocked on my door as I was about to leave for college and seized all my electronics and took me into the station. Turned out everything I was selling had been stolen, but the crazy part was that the money was being used to fund a local terrorist sect.
Thankfully I had all the receipts and message history, so worked with them and gave any evidence. Still didn’t get my phone or laptop back for months though as they were going through digital forensics. Which was a nightmare as I was doing a media degree at college.
Long story short: don’t ever look for jobs off Craigslist. Even if you were strapped for cash and needing to pay rent & bills desperately like I was.
Im genuinely surprised you didnt get charged for anything. Usually with something that severe, they punish you regardless if you were oblivious or not.
Your cooperation with them was probably your saving grace.
You weren’t suspicious that you were involved in illegal activity?
@@matilda6851 getting paid, not asking questions. What's to worry?
We’re you really so dense that you didn’t suspect anything? Honestly, I’m surprised the cops let you off.
I would never think the guy behind Craigslist was actually named "Craig."
@Don't read profile photo ok i wont....also ratio
@Don't read profile photo No problem. Leave.
Yo me neither
I wonder if AskJeeves was actually made by a guy named Jeeves.
Spoiler alert: it was sadly not.
His wifes name is angie
Who would've thought Craigslist was named after the creator of the site, Craig himself.
@Don't read profile photo shut up
@Don't read profile photo shut up bot
He made it as a shopping list for himself but it turned into so much more
@Don't read profile photo Not going to fall for that one again lol
I wonder who founded angieslist
I absolutely love how Charlie has his entire screen captured. Just wide open, no window captured, as if he just found the record screen source and pressed the record button. The personification of "it works, so it works." I love you Charlie, you're a comedian without trying.
i find it funny in the same way i find the stretched out thumbnails funny
@@lukecremecheese597 Its like he does it for the surrealism of lack of editing.
"Animal cruelty crimes get off easy" (not exactly word for word what you said but yeah). Went to court for possession of marijuana before legal in my state. I had a bunch of people before me to be given a sentence by the judge. One was there for animal cruelty and got a slap on the wrist. Even the shop lifter got a lighter sentence than me and him. The shop lifter had to pay like a $200 fine. For having a gram of weed I had to do 6 months of TASC (random weekly drug testing). But the "fun" thing is that I was so nervous about peeing with somebody looking so I would overhydrate every time. To guarantee I had to pee. The thing that was awful about that is the place was an hour away and the wait in line can be anywhere from 5 min to like almost an hour. One time I got stuck in traffic and swear my bladder was about to blow up. And when you are overhydrated they think you are trying to hide something so you get another 6 months of TASC as a punishment. It's fucking bullshit. Dude I'm just pee shy leave me alone. My first time at TASC I overfilled my bladder so much I accidentally peed on the bottle they give you. So being courteous I put the cap on then washed it off. Apparently that's a huge "no-no" and he was like "I might have to write you up with a violation". Bitch its my first day and I was trying to be courteous so you don't get piss on your gloves and table. And every month of TASC is like ~100.
What a wonderful justice system, god bless America
Still don't understand the big fuckin whoop about weed use, legal or illegal. If you're using it safely it has so many benefits, I don't get the clutching of pearls attitude with it
@@vglycorpse I dont get it either considering out Constitution was written on parchment made from weed. No idea why it is federally banned.
@@sebastianriz4703 Hemp and THC are very different things.
@@sebastianriz4703 Also parchment is made from animal skin. Dunno where you got the idea the Constitution was written on hemp.
Tuv must sleep in euphoria knowing that THE CHARLES WHITE religously watches his videos on stream
@Don't read profile photo Why doesn’t UA-cam delete these accounts…???
@@HitPay because its what susan wants shes a b*tch first she removes dislikes then she doesnt deal with bots.
@@HitPay they’re too busy deleting a person’s account for making something that isn’t directed towards fetal alcohol syndrome babies who’s parents probably do lines of the funny sugar in some Detroit slum and don’t work
@@HitPay UA-cam doesn’t care about moderation when it comes to bots and spammers
puuuurrrrrr, we love euphoria
I'm so happy about the guy that got 28 years. Charlie's right, most times animal cruelty is a couple years and that's it.
@Drinker_Of_ Milk well the thing is normal people don’t torture the animals before killing them, that’s totally inhumane. plus torturing animals is an early sign of a serial killer
@Drinker_Of_ Milk yes it is because torturing an innocent animal and killing it is one of the worst things a person can do. you probably wouldn’t be saying this stuff if it was a human but just because it’s an animal it has less value right? i also hope you’re not implying that because we torture cows/pigs/chickens for food somebody shouldn’t be charged for torturing cats/dogs.
@Drinker_Of_ Milk Yes that is worth 28 years that asshole should die in there actually. And it's not inconsistent, there's just a hierarchy when it comes to animals that are important to the human race emotionally. Killing farm animals is supposed to be done in a quick, easy, and humane way that doesn't cause the animals to suffer, not to mention its done for food. Slaughterhouses that do not kill their animals this way are typically investigated and shut down.
In the case of hunting it is not only necessary due to population control, but it is also, again, most often done in a quick and humane way. Doing it by hand is usually just an unfortunate circumstance as a result of people not knowing wtf they're doing.
Torturing and killing dogs, cats, horses, rodents, reptiles, and any animals typically kept as pets doesn't benefit anyone and is cruel and inhumane. (Unfortunately reptiles are very overlooked when it comes to animals that deal with abuse but they tend to get the worst of it :/ )
@Drinker_Of_ Milk I'm just gonna say that some people might react very badly to your opinion and you might want to remove it before you get harassed for making somebody read it.
i don’t think it’s enough. dude looks like he’s ready to move on to people
"that's like 8 different ways of killing himself, my god. He used every ounce of that Med student knowledge." ☠️☠️☠️
@@TiberiusCousinsIt definitely was, if he cut arteries, he had time before he bled out, and probably knew it was still possible to be found and saved. He presumably didn’t want to risk a failed attempt
Fun fact: I used Craigslist to find a room to live in once. Years later, I accidentally discovered that the person I lived with was a child rapist who had a long rap sheet, having had previously served 13 years.
Near where I'm from, there was this guy named Tim Bosma who posted his truck on Craigslist to be sold, he took the prospective buyer for a drive, and was murdered. The killers were a rich guy (Dellen Millard, if you are interested) and his goon. The rich guy is pretty much a psychopath and manipulator and it is now believed that they murdered at least one other person (a woman they knew), and it's possible he has buried the remains of people on his property. So even things like vehicle deals can be dangerous on Craigslist.
Damn. I purchased all my vehicles off craigslist for the past 15 years
Dellen Millard also murdered his own father
I'm also familiar with this case as well.
@@moandrews3326 and burned their bodies to ashes basically cremation, he is a sick "human"..for lack of better words..
RIP Tim Bosma
@@TheTopCat650 the man murdered was the seller, the murderer was looking for a truck to "buy" ...I believe he wanted the truck for the "fire oven" he had bought to burn the bodies, it's a really crazy story behind the murder of Tim Bosma, the father and I think his ex-gf as well!
I love how none of us expected that craigslist was created by a guy named Craig.
I was sure his name was list
Oh man, I actually remember watching that "Craigslist Killer" movie a long time ago. Man, it was fucking awful and, as I've found out recently, was directed by the same bloke who directed that awful Get Carter remake.
I’m so glad he found tuv, I remember he was at 8k when I found one of his vids and now he’s at a wopping 800k, well deserved, shout out Charlie for shedding some light on him
He’s cringe
my aunt once hired a babysitter from craigslist. i believe he was about one at the time. at some point he was crying real bad and wouldnt stop. she went into his room and shook his head until he stopped crying. i am not sure if she called anyone or if they found him when they were home. but he was rushed to the hospital and was there for a lengthy amount of time. the poor baby is basically braindead now. he gained a lot of weight over the years too. he just lays there and is barely reactive. all because that girl shook his head. its so sad.
What the fuck?????? But it's common knowledge to not shake babies as it results in death. I hope your aunt was allowed some sort of vindication as I can only imagine her immeasurable pain.
wait what how old is the baby now????
@@RaeneTheFaerie thank you
@@tipsyskeleton i believe he is about 13. i was young and my memory is spotty but it happened in 09-10 in washington state
There's actually a name for that, "shaken baby syndrome," I believe and it's not that uncommon unfortunately. How anyone can look a baby in the eyes and think it's okay to violently shake them just to get them to quiet down is beyond me. It's twisted and sick. It doesn't even make sense that that would work, because even if it didn't hurt the baby, it would only make them more upset. I feel so bad for that kid and hopefully the babysitter is serving a long sentence for what she did.
Tuv has been working insanely hard on providing us good content and I’m happy Charlie shines light on his channel.
@Don't read profile photo ok, i wont
@Don't read profile photo Okay I will not.
@Don't read profile photo shut up bot
no
He literally just googles information that is already easily and readily available, and his commentary offers nothing new to the content. Don't understand why people praise him.
Every time I hear of someone doing something awful to an animal, I always have to go and give my cat a little kiss and scritch. I can't imagine being so cruel.
Animal cruelty gets off light. Dude probably got 28 years for being on meth and heroin when he was caught. Not because the judge had the spontaneous enlightenment that animal cruelty is just as bad as cruelty to humans.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I am aware animals do not have rights in the U.S. and in most countries. Instead, people are punished for abusing animals because abusing animals often leads to abusing humans. That is why, while we hate it when cute animals get abused, animal cruelty still often carries light sentences.
Next thing you're gonna tell me is Angie actually created Angie's list. First Papa John... now Craig... the future is wild boys!
I just checked Wiki and I can confirmed, Angie's List was indeed created by someone named Angie.
@@celticwarrior8574 impossible.
Ted Talks
Mark zuckerberg's name was actually originally Facetious Bookington but he thought mark sounded more human
KFC, McDonald's, Wendy's
the founder of craigslist looks exactly like how I imagined him to be lmao
NPC look lmao
26 years for animal related offences is incredibly high. One shudders to think what acts of depravity he committed in order to receive such a sentence.
Honestly I think animal cruelty people should just get executed since it's just pathetic to hurt something that depends on you. I'd even do it myself if I could shit id do that as volunteer work
he said 28
My aunt tried to hire an assasin on Craiglist like five years back. It was the cops of course that responded, but she even went so far as to make poison in her house with 5 girls, 4 of them under 12 years old. She ended up serving 3 years in prison, but that was wild.
Holy shit lol
As expected I suppose. Anyone ever found any hitman services on darknet? I keep hearing about that shit but never found anything more than drugs and conspiracy forums and I've been using tor for years.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 People who really want to know will find out I'm sure, but stuff isn't out in the open, even on the 'deep web'.
Was she in abusive relationship? Cause with making poison, that could be conspiracy to commit murder, if person she tried to kill was an abuser, could be why only 3 years
Your aunt is incompetent lol
I’ve used Craigslist to find random jobs from time to time and used it to find rental houses but now it’s mostly scammers
Damn, Tuv's been gaining so much attention thanks to charlie lately and I'm glad. The guy genuinely deserves this and more.
@Don't read profile photo ok, I won't
Yeah man he promotes so many of my favorite "smaller" creators on UA-cam nights. Gotta respect it. He can tell when people actually care about what they're doing.
You think so? 😁
There very informative and shows respect to this case which we needed more on crime content on youtube or at least more popularised
@@Lovefortea448 yeah
3:25 Achievement Unlocked!: How do did we get here?
When I worked at a local pet rescue shelter, we has people asking "How come you charge people to take away pets? Youre always overloaded and people want pets in their homes." 'its because of people like those @ 7:00 . If we handed out animals to anybody who wanted it, there would be dead animals all the time.
Honestly I feel like being surprised when you're murdered by someone you met over craigslist is like being surprised a pizza shows up when you order a pizza
This is an actually gem of an early comment compared to all the other unoriginal “wOw ChRale gIvE tUv bIg CrEdit!” Kinda crazy to see how quick someone will scramble to post a quick comment to get lots of thumbs up but you deserved this one lol
@@HitPay well said
@Don't read profile photo sure i'll report instead
@Don't read profile photo easy enough
@@ceptemzorpus got em haha
You gotta be a certain type of down horrendous to be buying shit from the “escort” section from Craigslist…
Or you're just trying 100% all STDs
@@whannabi *Achievement* : _100% Completion_
Dying of AIDS or getting hepatitis B speedrun
@@whannabi Gotta catch them all
Tbf that is literally a fetish, bug catchers are a thing and people meet up explicitly to have sex with someone who has the ailment they desire.
Charlie should go through the "missed connections" on craigslist in random cities. always gives me a good laugh
“craig is such an npc name” okay CHARLIE
"When was the big Craigslist Killer that got a lot of press?" - Charlie, immediately after watching the aforementioned killer
I wonder when they’ll finally list craig
Ah yes Craig, I personally think his new venture into cartoons is great! Craig of the Creek is some of my favorite work from this guy. And his recent cameo in Halo is great!
I’ve been wondering the same thing
@Don't read profile photo BRO STOP
@Don't read profile photo shut up bot
@@audenisarat8179 Dont click me
Good to see Tuv getting the recognition he deserves! With Tuvs amazing content mixed with Cryticals humor its a match made in heaven
I love how fingerprints are OBVIOUSLY the go to for solving loads of cases. Why do criminals not use their knuckles to press buttons ffs.
Nice theory ngl, had to google but they can use knuckle prints to solve cases too actually
@@cadestockman5731 where do they store knuckle prints
@@Astrid-Palumbo if you're already a suspect for another reason they can take your knuckleprints ig
@@calebstuder448 good point
I can't imagine how bad that must've hurt he literally obliterated himself idk how he could have continued after like his ankles and legs
Someone may have assisted
@@eurotr4sh i guess but i feel like they'd have mentioned that cause alot of people actually kinda like to hear what happened to him and see if justice was served or not
I heard a 911 call on YT yrs ago about a pregnant girl that went to someone's house that was advertising free baby stuff on CraigsList & the pregnant woman was attacked & her baby was cut out of her, I didn't hear anything further about it, so I have no idea if she lived or if they ever caught the person that cut her baby out of her or if the baby even lived either.
the victim survived but her baby unfortunately did not. the person that did it was caught and i believe sentenced to life in prison.
So uh is it an accomplishment for a porno bot to copy your comment? Because one copied yours lol
@@haka-katyt7439 Ugh, I have no idea, those scammers need to get real jobs
Are you talking about the Lisa Montgomery case? If so then the baby fortunately survived and was given back to the father after Lisa was caught. Unfortunately, the mother was still alive and was left to bleed to death after she was ripped open.
@@LuisGarcia-rt9yh I have no idea what her name was, I heard the 911 call yrs ago
I would never think the guy behind Craigslist was actually named "Craig." that means the Facebook creator got a face 🦎
Nah he got booked
He’s got one but it’s definitely not his own
Fart Cuckerturd is a reptile
He used to be human, still is human! Lmao
I love that Charlie reflects at 1:20 and thinks what a lot of us probably thought: "I was in the NHS, it wasn't a big deal back then and I really think now they'll just let anyone in."
I listen to your stories to soothe myself off to sleep you magnificent man.
@Don't read profile photo k I won’t then
@Don't read profile photo shut up bot
Neither read nor don't read my name. Exist in a state of quantum superposition where you simultaneously do and don't read my name.
@@Syncrotron9001 damn bro these must've been the wrong shrooms...
5:51 If you knew the person they wanted "eradicated" it sounds like a pretty easy way to scam $5k from a psycho.
Not really. I mean if she put any thought into it, she would have offered a certain amount upfront (probably half) and the rest after services rendered. Also, even if you did accept the money, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to do even if you have no intention of going through Sith the murder (and I don't just mean because you are scamming someone out of their money) but I could be wrong about it. With how public she was with the hit, you would almost certainly be caught
But do you want to scam a pyscho tho.. ? You know what if he comes for u?
That's exactly the entire premise of the Besa Mafia, a rabbit hole of some website in deep web for people wanting a hit but got scammed in reality.
@@jacobbro693 well they are hiring a killer clearly got no guts to do it themselves.
@@frog1405 well are they going to report me to the police? Say "i paid this guy to kill somone but they didn't do it"?
Cause like scamming people is illegal either way.
But if you are smart you would just make a contract it was money for an nft or some painting. Then you also pay tax on it and avoid getting in trouble for that.
"Every list has its Craig."
- Craig S. List
I remember seeing this on another channel a year ago.
What sticks with me to this day:
Dude recorded him skinning the puppies. "I'm making coats out of them."
I absolutely love the amount you've been supporting tuv. he deserves it
I’m glad I got to see this on the Twitch stream! But yeah, never trust Craigslist at this point…
You mean Justintv stream?
There was a guy in my neighborhood in San Jose, CA that was finelly caught in his car sleeping in target parking lot with a orange tabby cat that was dead and had been sexually abused. Come to find out he was stealing cats threwout the neighborhoods to do this to cats. It hurt my heart, mind and thoughts so fu*king much, i couldn't follow up on it. It was around the same time my "orange tabby age 22 yrs old" went missing.
1:46 latex gloves dont show fingerprints but u can still type, coulda used those. I work in food service and using my phone isnt too bad with gloves
But it's not sanitary for you to be using your phone with your gloves on then touching food. Phones are covered in germs. 🤢 Please do better
@@taylorbug9 I didn’t say I touch food right after touching my phone, I just said I used gloves and touched my phone I just said I worked in food service and have touched my phone (you can be a cashier too)
"that's mister list himself?" Already a banger by Jesus Christ the best actor from hunger games
6:35 I read a story once about a guy who strapped explosives on his dog and killed it. It was ruled legal because since death was instant it was humane and not animal cruelty.
The guy who got 28 years must've really tortured a number of these dogs, well deserved to get 28 years.
That’s disgusting. The mental gymnastics people will take to not punish pet killers and such is ridiculous. Reminds me of PETA trespassing, stealing a dog, and euthanizing it. Nothing was done to them.
That is gangster af
And were the explosives legal???
@@ma.2089 It's not just mental gymnastics. It's the limitations on what can be enforced especially with animal abuse where countries just straight up do not have laws against things and there's no political will to do anything about it. Though then again there are situations where people commit premeditated racially/etc. motivated murder and judges handwave it away and give people the absolute minimum sentence possible, so yeah maybe.
@@loaconscience5564 I quite enjoyed that story. BLOW UP THE DOG WITH EXPLOSIVES? NOW THATS A PARTY
I love Tuv's laugh, makes me feel warm. Nice guy, great videos.
4:57 i love looking at cool cars for sale and Facebook marketplace is usually the way to go not Craigslist
8:17 well yeah, here in chile """justice""" is a joke so it genuinely surprised me when i heard he went to prison (only 15 months btw, just terrible)
South america is not for amateurs
Didn't expect for someone at NA to cover this case. Such a shame he only spent less than 2 years when it should have been more, at least everyone knows what he looks like and can't walk the streets freely like he did nothing wrong
@@fsorrow Seriously, animal abusers piss me off. They make me wish that they were paired with a pet owner who was falsely imprisoned.
@@roxassora2706 or end up in Cuba, I heard they don’t take kindly to animal abusers there
I remember posts of hookups on Craigslist being crazy.
Ohh they were.
They really were.
I work with one of the former detectives who interrogated Philip Markoff, it was a very interesting story to hear in depth from a cop
best quote is "This dude did 8 different suicides" " he used every ounce of that med studen knowledge"
I like how he ended the video before the video he was watching ended, making us wanna go to it and watch.
Nice job Charlie, love it!
“prison is temporary. Clout is forever”
- Charlie, 2022“
“Is that Mr. List himself” had me laughing in the first ten seconds 🤣
Tuv is my favourite channel right now. He does some real dope videos
8:27 I'm kind of tired of people saying this- hear me out, but everyone says that people that harm animals should get locked up because they're more likely to harm people as well. That is obviously true of course, but I feel like it distracts from the animals rights. There are a lot of people who torture animals but nothing comes of it because they're recognized as property.
*Trigger warning* I have animal abuser relatives that still function in society because they haven't committed crimes against humans. These people torture kittens for fun and fill their dogs with bullets when they're tired of feeding them. They can't run away and they can't cry for help. It probably sounds wrong to most people, but it disgusts me even more than child abuse because of how defenseless they are.
So what I'm trying to say is that I'm sick of always fucking hearing "animal abuse is a bad sign because they could turn into a murderer" shit. I just wish people would recognize that animals aren't disposable objects, they feel pain.
I mean, both children and animals are defenceless and innocent, which is why people who abuse them are damn sickos who need to be locked up for life
Have you alerted the authorities about your relatives?
I see what you mean, you want people to not only recognize animal abuse because it can be attached to the abuse of humans, and instead just recognize animal abuse because its harming animals.
@@lampylightbulb yeah just to clarify, I never meant that abuse towards children was fine.
Coming from someone who has been abused, molested, and witnessed animal abuse I can say that in my case I had the ability to escape, defend myself, confide in others, and ask for help.
So yeah, both are bad, but targeting a child and targeting an animal are both pathetic in different ways. When someone tortures an animal they see it like a demented experiment or a game.
@@eligma4399 true that, glad to hear you were able to largely escape the situation
"You won't get beat up over a car."
The elderly couple who got unlifed trying to buy a Mustang in Georgia: 🤨
I’m happy to hear the dude got 28 years, the courts did something right and most likely saved lives.
my old neighbor shot a 6 month old cat that I was feeding and thought it was funny and lied to animal control saying it was because the cat scratched her daughter when that wasn't why the cat was shot. He was shot bc she thought it was funny literally posted on fb about it saying "one shot to the head lmao". Since I was feeding him for a certain amount of time it was considered my cat and since the cat didn't have a rabies shot, the old neighbor who animal control wanted in trouble for what she did, could have sued me because the cat didn't have his rabies shot. Crazy how that works! She didn't get in trouble at all and what she did was a felony here in VA now. "Podcat" survived thanks to the spca but did lose an eye. Unfortunately he did get hit by a car a few months later. :(
charlie can rest easy knowing that animal cruelty is now a felony
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that never considered who Craig is.
Craigslist the missed connections section was always one my favs
6:54 Oh, Look! It's Cruella's son! XD
More Tuv! I love his content and I usually don't try and discover new content creators. Thank you for putting me on Charlie!
So go and watch him for yourself.
I feel bad for tuv actually. Most people seeing his content through Charlie aren't going to go to tuv's channel. Instead, they're going to give the views to Charlie for his highlights.
Tuv blew up because of charlie tho? And he actively says that he enjoys charlie making videos on it
@@metcas I mean but they are though to be honest lol.. Tuv blew up after Charlie posted him. Either way, I've been subbed to him since I first heard of him.
I was able to sell snow tires on Craigslist for a decent price, but that's about the extent of my ventures. Definitely would be wary of offering "services" on there.
You and tuv are the only UA-camrs I watch. This is satisfying.
Don't f*** with cats is such a great documentary
I just wanna say your videos have been helping me with my depression bc my family life at home recently hasn’t been going well and your videos help me not think about it for the short period in the day there’s a new video. Thank you ❤️
I still remember the days I was scared to go home because I didn't know what was waiting for me each day. But I got better and you will too. Keep your head up and don't forget that you won't be there forever
I thought we were meant to be
My dad died
@@cole.1 based name
I hope the best for you, hang in there! I remember 10 years ago, when I was young I felt the EXACT same way and Charlie’s videos made me feel that same comfort!
Gonna be completely honest met my know gf on crailgist I was down bad and decided to check it out and see a post that caught my eye decide to send her a message and everything worked out fine and I’m lucky to have met someone who wasn’t a serial killer 😂
Met my husband in a similar way. Lol thank God we weren't killed . *high five*
It’s a Long Term Plan
honestly respect you have to have humongous balls to do that. i would be to scared if getting murdered
@@desklamp8591 bro I was scared af but talked a lot before and ft to make sure ik 😂
Same lol. Almost 10 years later, married with two kids. It didn't used to be all bad.
I love Craigslist. Bought a fridge the other day and I’m gonna sell a mini fridge this weekend. Used to get work from there and opportunities to perform music at venues. I love you Craig.
i liked this video while the ad still on just because of the name good job lmfao😂🔥🙌
You should get TUV on the podcast. I bet it would be great.
I got 2 pet rats on craigslist and all their supplies for free. I drove like 3 hours away to get them lmao
I love them dearly and haven’t regretted it a bit
Nice work in Morbious, Charlie! Great work playing Jared Leto.
1:06 Based Charlie calls out the correlation in appearance of ~56% of murderers
You know what they say about the 13/ 55%
After decades of providing the ease of access to 69s, Craig himself has finally turned 69.
Woah.
2:26 notice erotic is the only one already in purple
Hahaha my man!
Gotta do research first I guess
i love how absolutely nobody expected craigslist to be started by someone named craig
pokemon just got pretty dark for me 5:24 E-Ratticate with it's accomplice RAT-TAT-TA lol
0:36 I once found a home made Indian porno DVD in a backpack I bought from Craigslist lmao
was it good?
@@balls4582we must know
I was in the National Honor Society and I can tell you it doesn’t really mean you’re intelligent. Yes intelligent people are more likely to be in it but you can totally get in if you’re of average intelligence _(or even marginally under average)_ but are more ambitious than average and a good test taker
You know I usually get slightly annoyed when streamers constantly pause the vid to state a comment but I wish Charlie would do that more
He doesn’t pause the vid and just talks over it which is hilarious but makes me miss out on what the guy is saying and what Charlie is saying too
4:52 In Canada there was a scenario how a man got kidnaped and killed over a mediocre car he had tried to sell over craigslist... It was a huge story since nobody thought anyone would do such a thing
Supporting your boy Tuv🙏
I love the way tuv can’t contain himself at how stupid the things are sometimes
Is your poltergeist taking the train to work?
@@violenceisfun991 what
08:27 Charlie discussing psychopath's as he rocks back and forth, like a psychopath.
This guy is really just does an entire video in basically one shot no snippets. So his sarcasm is truly supremely colorful to make it all up on the spot. Cuz there is no way he remembers a script word for word like that.
Nobody: …
The comment section: who would’ve guessed a guy named Craig made Craigslist 🤣
Coming from a recovering poly addict, the dog killer deserves more especially since the drugs probably enhanced the pleasurable feeling from that deep dark desire he was feeding from his entire life. Just because im in recovery doesn't mean I'm justifying drug use. Every hard drug user I knew/know don't want to harm animals or hurt people, they're only hurting themselves which we know we do. Ive only met a couple possible killers through the drug world who couldn't get off without hurting someone or something and I always did something about it. I'm 5 yrs sober now and still believe that people are born with it
Glad to hear you're doing better, and yes I agree almost all people with drug addiction that I've met were people who were hurting and had no intention to harm others
Oh man that reminded me of a childhood trauma!! My third grade teacher used to come over after school sometimes to tutor my older brother and she’d given our family and whole set of encyclopedias. Inside one of the books was very salacious negatives of her!! I never was right after that! 😳
Idk what is more creepier the first story, or the guy in the back left corner sitting there 🤣
8:17 Peluchin Entertainment's (the end of Peluchin is pronounced just like "chin") case was still ongoing. But I remember that one of the things that made it difficult to predict his sentence was him being 15 yo at the time (too young to go to jail) and the chilean law about animal abuse was very very recent back then. I remember reading he had his trial last November. I didn't find any information about his sentence tho, but there's still hope he was sentenced to years of prison. And he was also accused of sexual assault in 2017 (he would've been 14 yo at the time). A really fucked up individual and a lot of people in my country will probably remember him for a long time lol
@@edn2674 100%, alguien debería haberse dado cuenta que el pendejo estaba cagado de la cabeza. Supuestamente, en algún momento dijo que la tortura era para ayudar a que se mejore, pero creo que él mismo se definía como un troll. Me cuesta creer que nadie (ni la familia ni el colegio) se haya dado cuenta de que había algo raro.
@@ItsJustValHere Sii, ojalá no sea algo normal dentro de la familia..
Shopping on Craigslist is one thing, but being a criminal is a big yikes
100 pirate DVDs for sale
Bro Oroville is like, a couple towns over from me 😂😂
5:44 I like how Rhode Island is just Rhode Island