Someone cooked this on DAY ONE of the space-time smackdown expansion. That's what impresses me the most. Bro skipped the glaringly obvious Dialga+Melmetal and said 'how edgy can I be without completely going off the deep end' and succeeded with flying colors
Seriously, I feel like I spent every minute of my time since the expansion leaked trying to find the best deck build and there are already so many better decks than the stuff I thought was clever. There are just SO many people trying out every possible build and the best only reveals itself in practice and numbers.
This was literally the first deck i made since i only got darkrai and magnezone (gallade is garbage, doesnt count). After that i started splashing magnezone in every deck like i used to with greninja
We actually cooked this deck day 0 (the day of the leaks, expansion was not out yet) on Hooglands stream It is not THAT HARD to step out of "Dialga Melmetal" when you are someone like me or Jeff that doesnt like playing the obvious things That being said, I was not expecting this to be THAT GOOD. I thought it would be just a "cool deck" not a meta one (and I have opened 6 Dialgas and 0 Darkrai, so I couldnt figure this out myself)
@@waranddeath6936 is it really not that hard or are we setting the standard a bit high? At first i thought majority of players had at least similar thinking as jeff since im just a casual and nothing he ever says is really anything i didnt know, but then he posted that he has 1500 wins and i checked just to find out i did too. That's when i realized i was out of touch
Hey Jeff! if you weren’t aware, part of the UI changes this update were that you can “prime” an attack before your energy pops up and reveals your next energy. You just have to click on your active pokemon and click the attack and it queues it. This forces your attack to go before a concede, granting you your sweet extra points for profile bling :) keep up the good work!
I didn't realize Magnezone basically only needs one energy to attack the turn it comes into the active and only needing 1 Lightning energy for the attack. That's very strong for a 1 prize attacker.
This is why Rampardos stood out to me. Equivalent damage and HP to the expansion-feature EXs but for a single energy. Unfortunately it doesn't fuel its own energy type so it's not AS versatile as Magnezone, but it fits really well into dual energy decks if you can pull them off.
@@Jesse-lv2yoyeah another thing that makes magnezone good is magneton can battery your active pokemon with an electro energy + dawn (assuming your active can run mixed energy). Was even able to splash magnezone into 1x giratina + 2x mismagius + 1x jynx. Can drop jynx in and dawn electric energy + psychic energy from energy pile to surprise jynx people.
Man, that first game was just a clinic on why the Mesprit-Uxie-Azelf combo is just unplayable. Even when everything comes together, you just wont have any way to clear that last point. And if Mesprit doesn’t cleanly clear an EX, you cant even get 2 points with a perfect draw, and you’re left with no energy.
@@HooglandiaPocket You've been on fire with the content you're creating for this community, Jeff. IMO it would be in the devs' best interest if they watched closely.
Extra saucy today, loved it! And thanks for continuing to showcase amazing decks, this deck looks sooooo much fun!! By the way, I am also a college math teacher!
@@darrinanderson776how? Which specific fighting team counters this team bc magnezone is the only one with fighting wrakness. Tbh the only one i can think of that can beat this is like a luxray team but those are sooo hard to pilot and are hella inconsistent
My best guess is that they're not going to counter it. That's my simple answer. At least, not with any cards that are currently out. We might get some cards in the next mini-expansion that can deal with Darkrai, but, for now, I'm not seeing a way to deal with it.
As of writing this, on Limitless there's 2323 wins, 1445 loses, and 37 ties, giving the deck an overall winrate of 61.05%. Removing mirrors (but leaving in other Darkrai decks that aren't using Magnezone) makes the winrate 63.34%. Fun fact: if we also remove Darkrai Magenzone's worst matchup currently, which is Darkrai Greninja, the winrate jumps up to 64.5%. So... yeah, this meta seems miserable for anyone who doesn't own Darkrai (and honestly maybe even for people who do, since they're stuck on the same deck).
having played the deck for around 20 games I can say it is one of the most consistent decks since the beginning of pocket. So much agency in this deck makes it incredibly fun
@@odrea592 Regirock is a fine wall, but it doesn't hit back like Durdle Durgon does without Rocky Helmet, and the retreat cost of 3 means you can't Leaf it out and still put Energy on your Darkrai or Magnezone that turn unless you also use an X-Speed.
In previous videos you had which packs each card was in and I really appreciated having all the deck building info at a glance on the graphic. Just curious if that will come back? Still the best videos around!
Will there be an update on your Starmie / Lumineon Deck with the new expansion? I love that deck and was wondering, if it still can keep up with the new decks. ❤
I beat this deck earlier this morning with Dialga-Pidgeot EX deck... But i need advice on tweaking this deck because i am losing to charizard EX, i am planning to include Mew in my Deck but I don't know what card to replace: Here's my deck- 2 Dialga 2 Pidgeot EX 2 Pidgeotto 2 Pidgey 2 Prof Oak 2 Pokeballs 1 Sabrina 1 Cyrus 1 Giovanni 1 X-Speed 1 Pokemon Flute 1 Pokemon Communication 1 Giant Cape 1 Rocky Helmet Also my items are kinda random lol. Any advice would be great help... Thanks a lot
i changed Drudd and Leaf and Cape for Dawn and Giratina and Rocky Helm. giratina gets levitate on an energy then u can retreat and Dawn. but more importantly you can dawn and Magneton energy to Darkrai for sneaky kills. its nasty
Pokeball guarantees one basic, yes. But if you have say 6 basics in a deck of 10, 6/10 is higher than 5/9 so research is more likely to hit one if you don't ball first
Disagree. Sabrina and Cyrus are better and worse than each other in different spots, it’s often correct to run one of each. Also, Sabrina is going to be a very important piece to fight against this deck, since the main strength of this archetype is the fact that it’s simultaneously powering 2 big attackers while dealing damage. Sabrina lets you take out one of them before it’s set up so you only ever have to beat 1 attacker.
As an avowed off-meta brewery who likes playing interesting decks, how much if at all does this deck likely becoming meta reduce your interest in playing it?
What are your thoughts on focusing on the pack that have more pokemon that you want or need and use your points for getting supporters, instead of focusing on the supporters? Would it be more economical or does it truly matter? Opinions?
Supporters are game changers, buying them is not a bad option. It really just depends on your patience levels, do you wanna play NOW or wait for later.
@NicholasTaggart-g1s I would assume it has to do with the fact 140hp dies to a ton of things. 160hp allows it to trade with things like palkia and to counter rocky helmets . You already have darkrai for chip
I mean I would assume doing 40 damage a turn with Druddigon and Darkrai while powering up two big hitters is pressure enough. I would rather have more durability on my tank and big hitters to both stall for time to find pieces and keep Magnezone / Darkrai alive and doing big damage. I don't see any point in time where a little more chip damage would be useful.
@@Jesse-lv2yo this was my way of looking at it too, and if they bring something out big enough to 1HK Drud/Rocky that’s still 40 dmg there plus another 20 & 110 from Darkrai & Magnezone on your turn. But maybe doing 170dmg vs. 150dmg doesn’t outweigh Capes value.
Try Garchomp&Palkia with Misty&Cynthia and Rocky helmet Need 1 energy for palkia to do 30 and he can tank with helmet( also misty might help with giving you the 1 water energy you missing or help you boost palkia )
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s im not an expert but i feel like cape provides more consistency than helmet because you already have darkrai hitting for 20 every turn, getting the extra 20 hp on magnezone gets it past the 150 breakpoint letting it live through a lot of heavy hitters
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s well since people already dont want to hit drudd rocky helmet isnt going to get as much value whereas cape on magnezone allows it to hit its attack twice against something like mewtwo with no giovanni it hits on the turn its evolved, then takes a 150 hit and attacks again resulting in 220 dmg total
My prediction is the counter doesn't exist. At least doesn't exist right now. A future set might print something that can deal with it (maybe we'll see a tool that nullifies ability damage or something), but for now, if anything dethrones this, it'll be another Darkrai deck.
I have not been critical of any Pocket meta until now. Every Darkrai deck is so much stronger than every deck that has existed until now. Gyarados could be bench sniped. Mewtwo could brick Gardevoir. Pikachu has always been consistent but never had a GREAT play turn1->3 and had overall low HP / was 1 dimensional. These Darkrai decks are absolutely diabolical. The ONLY deck I’ve used that manages a positive winrate against them is grass variants that have Celebi or Exeggutor or both.
Every deck has a counter, including Darkrai, but meta counters don't just immediately appear. Everyone thought Celebi was insanely broken the first few days it was out.
@@Jesse-lv2yoWe do have data on an effective counter to Darkrai Magnezone! Unfortunely it's another Darkrai deck, this one being Darkrai Greninja. Current data had it favorable against everything else though.
@@james-bx4wr I get the consistency point but maybe 2x Rocky’s 🤷♂️ if they 1hk drud/rocky thats 40hp plus 20hp + 110hp from Magnezon & Darkrai on your turn. Plus you get the chance to 1hk their mon before Capes hp buff would matter
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s same can be said for big cape of you dont get ohko with rocky. It's all a mater of which tool is more favorable against more match ups. Then again, we're just talking inches in a game of luck here.
@@james-bx4wr very true! My only other point was sometimes the thing about playing the best deck in the current meta is looking out for the mirror, so that 170hp in a turn may mean a lot against a Cape’d Magnezone/Darkrai
@@TheBlaringBlue 1. I get you but I find the spiritomb/Weavile/Darkrai deck to be more consistent. 2. Magnezone/Darkrai/Drudd is starting to dominate at a lot of tournaments is what I mean.
I think he's also one of the most played games. I saw a lot of other derks beating 5+ of these decks in a row like aerodactyl/lucario, palkia/vaporeon/articuno, charizard/moltres
I would not make that switch. Cape brings both Magnezone and Darkrai to 160 HP to live a 150 damage Dimension Storm from Palkia. Despite M2 being less successful, 150 damage is still an important break point. Also helps you live hits from Yanmega and Infernape.
@@scottlupa6061 I've actually just been running rock helmet to see and no one wants to attack my grud unless they can knock it out in one hit because of the 20+20 kick back damage. The opponent would waste both Sabrina as well.
Is there a link to where all the stats are compiled from these major tournaments? I see UA-camrs post the deck, but I’d like to peruse other decks that maybe aren’t the S tier deck? Thanks!
Why play the new magnemite over the old one? As far as I know, they have identical stats appart from the old one hitting for 20 and the new one only hitting for 10...
@@codename1176 10 deamage will rarely matter, but it hits for 30 into water cards, which puts palkia into magnezone range and manaphy into darkrai poke range.
I really want to like/sub to this channel, but man, the host is so unnecessarily mean to random viewers asking simple (sometimes dumb, but I mean, these could be kids?) questions. Like, I love sarcasm, but his use of it is so off and just comes off as mean. There's a difference between making a joke at someone's expense and making a joke _with_ someone. Could just be a comparison thing though; given that I discovered him through Spragels, who I think uses sarcasm in a much more kind and funny way.
Yeah pretty much the only reason. Give one robe to Darkrai and one to Magnezone so they both get to 160. Also two robes helps you consistently draw it instead of just 1n1
@@GeorgeSuperstarMcAwesomeVille so Capes hp boost is more valuable than doing 170dmg w Rocky Drudd? Feel like doing 170hp might mean something 🤷♂️. I get the consistency tho.
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Someone cooked this on DAY ONE of the space-time smackdown expansion. That's what impresses me the most. Bro skipped the glaringly obvious Dialga+Melmetal and said 'how edgy can I be without completely going off the deep end' and succeeded with flying colors
And as the meta evolves, people will find a way to counter darkai magnezone
Seriously, I feel like I spent every minute of my time since the expansion leaked trying to find the best deck build and there are already so many better decks than the stuff I thought was clever. There are just SO many people trying out every possible build and the best only reveals itself in practice and numbers.
This was literally the first deck i made since i only got darkrai and magnezone (gallade is garbage, doesnt count). After that i started splashing magnezone in every deck like i used to with greninja
We actually cooked this deck day 0 (the day of the leaks, expansion was not out yet) on Hooglands stream
It is not THAT HARD to step out of "Dialga Melmetal" when you are someone like me or Jeff that doesnt like playing the obvious things
That being said, I was not expecting this to be THAT GOOD. I thought it would be just a "cool deck" not a meta one (and I have opened 6 Dialgas and 0 Darkrai, so I couldnt figure this out myself)
@@waranddeath6936 is it really not that hard or are we setting the standard a bit high? At first i thought majority of players had at least similar thinking as jeff since im just a casual and nothing he ever says is really anything i didnt know, but then he posted that he has 1500 wins and i checked just to find out i did too. That's when i realized i was out of touch
Hey Jeff! if you weren’t aware, part of the UI changes this update were that you can “prime” an attack before your energy pops up and reveals your next energy. You just have to click on your active pokemon and click the attack and it queues it. This forces your attack to go before a concede, granting you your sweet extra points for profile bling :) keep up the good work!
Magneton's ability letting you use only dark energy with Magnezone is so cool
Yeah! I wonder what else you could play with Magnezone..
@@felizpanda literally most decks. Has to be top3 stage2 in the game.
I didn't realize Magnezone basically only needs one energy to attack the turn it comes into the active and only needing 1 Lightning energy for the attack. That's very strong for a 1 prize attacker.
This is why Rampardos stood out to me. Equivalent damage and HP to the expansion-feature EXs but for a single energy. Unfortunately it doesn't fuel its own energy type so it's not AS versatile as Magnezone, but it fits really well into dual energy decks if you can pull them off.
@@Jesse-lv2yoyeah another thing that makes magnezone good is magneton can battery your active pokemon with an electro energy + dawn (assuming your active can run mixed energy). Was even able to splash magnezone into 1x giratina + 2x mismagius + 1x jynx. Can drop jynx in and dawn electric energy + psychic energy from energy pile to surprise jynx people.
I didn't know you were a teacher too, Jeff! Very cool
holy that deck feels like everything ive wanted in tcgp so far, just need the two darkrai's. thank you for showcasing
pre-expansion my biggest hope was just for a dark version of greninja. darkrai is nuts lmao
I ran into this deck a couple times on random queue and I was NOT ready for it
Neither was anyone in the tournament scene
Man, that first game was just a clinic on why the Mesprit-Uxie-Azelf combo is just unplayable. Even when everything comes together, you just wont have any way to clear that last point. And if Mesprit doesn’t cleanly clear an EX, you cant even get 2 points with a perfect draw, and you’re left with no energy.
It's impressive that they resisted the urge to make Magnezone energy hungry because of Magneton
Your sarcasm is refreshing honesty
Fantastic tourney yesterday, Jeff!!
I really didn't expect this video today. Thought you would rest after that event
This was mostly put together before the open. Tomorrow's meta report is an all nighter after the stream though.
@@HooglandiaPocket You've been on fire with the content you're creating for this community, Jeff. IMO it would be in the devs' best interest if they watched closely.
I love when these weird deck come out of nowhere. Like who even thought about playing these two together? And why is it so broken?
Strange things happen when you pack only a part of the archetype deck list
@@97SuperGabri This is why I love that f2p players are forced to get creative early on in expansion releases. It's when the coolest ideas come about.
A lot. A lot of players come up with this. It's everywhere. This is not a rare occurrence
Extra saucy today, loved it! And thanks for continuing to showcase amazing decks, this deck looks sooooo much fun!! By the way, I am also a college math teacher!
Jeff is a better man than me, as I download this very deck from the interweb.
This deck really shows how much complexity you can achieve in such a simple game
It might be the best Pokemon TCG Pocket deck ever as of right now ! I'm really curious to see how people gonna counter that
Fighting plays it well, also exeggcutor
I'm curious if primate Hitmonlee can take it down
Infernape
@@darrinanderson776how? Which specific fighting team counters this team bc magnezone is the only one with fighting wrakness. Tbh the only one i can think of that can beat this is like a luxray team but those are sooo hard to pilot and are hella inconsistent
My best guess is that they're not going to counter it.
That's my simple answer. At least, not with any cards that are currently out. We might get some cards in the next mini-expansion that can deal with Darkrai, but, for now, I'm not seeing a way to deal with it.
I am curious to see the winrate of the deck in that tournament when mirror matches aren't counted
I was told it was about 63%
@@_DrPotato Dayum. 63% is crazy.
As of writing this, on Limitless there's 2323 wins, 1445 loses, and 37 ties, giving the deck an overall winrate of 61.05%. Removing mirrors (but leaving in other Darkrai decks that aren't using Magnezone) makes the winrate 63.34%.
Fun fact: if we also remove Darkrai Magenzone's worst matchup currently, which is Darkrai Greninja, the winrate jumps up to 64.5%.
So... yeah, this meta seems miserable for anyone who doesn't own Darkrai (and honestly maybe even for people who do, since they're stuck on the same deck).
having played the deck for around 20 games I can say it is one of the most consistent decks since the beginning of pocket. So much agency in this deck makes it incredibly fun
Having fun playing Jolteon + Magnezone, now that Cape can make Jolteon a real card XD
17:48
Jeez jeff, your lawyers are going to be earning their money after today 😳
I saw a somewhat similar strategy with golem.
They essentially swapped the magnezone with golem and used brock to gain the fighting energies.
this deck is absolutely insanity man, i love it!
btw what about regirock for drud?
@@odrea592 Regirock is a fine wall, but it doesn't hit back like Durdle Durgon does without Rocky Helmet, and the retreat cost of 3 means you can't Leaf it out and still put Energy on your Darkrai or Magnezone that turn unless you also use an X-Speed.
Came for the awesome pocket content stayed for the dodgeball references one of my favorite movies of all time I quote it constantly myself 😅
I thought that because volt charge said "from your energy zone" it implied that You needed to play lightning energy, the more You know
In previous videos you had which packs each card was in and I really appreciated having all the deck building info at a glance on the graphic. Just curious if that will come back? Still the best videos around!
Unfortunately they are tedious to add and having them doesn't impact the video metrics.
Nice deck. Sucks that I got like 2 EX cards within 60 packs so I won't ever be able to make it though 😂
A video with all the combination of pokeball and prof oak in various situations would be very usefull
Will there be an update on your Starmie / Lumineon Deck with the new expansion? I love that deck and was wondering, if it still can keep up with the new decks. ❤
On my list to get around to for sure.
I also have a feeling cresselia ex will heal per energy and would synergize with florges line.
I beat this deck earlier this morning with Dialga-Pidgeot EX deck... But i need advice on tweaking this deck because i am losing to charizard EX, i am planning to include Mew in my Deck but I don't know what card to replace:
Here's my deck-
2 Dialga
2 Pidgeot EX
2 Pidgeotto
2 Pidgey
2 Prof Oak
2 Pokeballs
1 Sabrina
1 Cyrus
1 Giovanni
1 X-Speed
1 Pokemon Flute
1 Pokemon Communication
1 Giant Cape
1 Rocky Helmet
Also my items are kinda random lol. Any advice would be great help... Thanks a lot
But then we get Drifblim full art but not a Magnezone one :(
This is such a cool deck. Tricksy, like the Hobbits's.
more of this deck.great
Are we locked out of that specific Magneton variant since the Pikachu/Mewtwo/Char packs are gone now? I only have 1 copy of it.
Click on any booster packs and use button "select other booster pack" there is genetic apex...
The genetic apex packs aren't gone. You can switch it out on "select booster pack", the button is in the lower right side
You can still switch between booster packs. There's a button in the bottom right have corner of the packs to do it.
I only have 1 darkrai, any replacement suggestions?
i changed Drudd and Leaf and Cape for Dawn and Giratina and Rocky Helm. giratina gets levitate on an energy then u can retreat and Dawn. but more importantly you can dawn and Magneton energy to Darkrai for sneaky kills. its nasty
Wait a sec, we research before pokeball in order to increase the odds of getting two basics? Isn't it the other way around?
Pokeball guarantees one basic, yes. But if you have say 6 basics in a deck of 10, 6/10 is higher than 5/9 so research is more likely to hit one if you don't ball first
Man, I severely underestimated magnezone lol
Hopefully we will see the rise of Red Card/Mars due to holding off evolving
24:06 Do you think that evolving the Magneton here would be safer to play around Cyrus?
I’ve actually been having massive success in random games with the garchomp deck against this. 3-0 against it right now
I'm convinced you pronounce Pokemon names wrong on purpose as a troll. Lmao Either way, really enjoy your videos.
Cyrus stocks UP ---> Sabrina stocks DOWN ---> Druddigon stock UP
Disagree. Sabrina and Cyrus are better and worse than each other in different spots, it’s often correct to run one of each. Also, Sabrina is going to be a very important piece to fight against this deck, since the main strength of this archetype is the fact that it’s simultaneously powering 2 big attackers while dealing damage. Sabrina lets you take out one of them before it’s set up so you only ever have to beat 1 attacker.
As an avowed off-meta brewery who likes playing interesting decks, how much if at all does this deck likely becoming meta reduce your interest in playing it?
I doubt I'll play this again yes.
Wow finally a deck where i have all the cards. Still 0 weaviles
Well our meta has been set. Nothing but Darkrai Magnezone and Druddigon for the next few months 😢
What are your thoughts on focusing on the pack that have more pokemon that you want or need and use your points for getting supporters, instead of focusing on the supporters? Would it be more economical or does it truly matter? Opinions?
Supporters are game changers, buying them is not a bad option. It really just depends on your patience levels, do you wanna play NOW or wait for later.
Why 2 capes n not split 1n1 with rocky helmet??? Can someone explain the thought process behind it plsss
@NicholasTaggart-g1s
I would assume it has to do with the fact 140hp dies to a ton of things.
160hp allows it to trade with things like palkia and to counter rocky helmets .
You already have darkrai for chip
I mean I would assume doing 40 damage a turn with Druddigon and Darkrai while powering up two big hitters is pressure enough. I would rather have more durability on my tank and big hitters to both stall for time to find pieces and keep Magnezone / Darkrai alive and doing big damage. I don't see any point in time where a little more chip damage would be useful.
@@Jesse-lv2yo this was my way of looking at it too, and if they bring something out big enough to 1HK Drud/Rocky that’s still 40 dmg there plus another 20 & 110 from Darkrai & Magnezone on your turn. But maybe doing 170dmg vs. 150dmg doesn’t outweigh Capes value.
Try Garchomp&Palkia with Misty&Cynthia and Rocky helmet
Need 1 energy for palkia to do 30 and he can tank with helmet( also misty might help with giving you the 1 water energy you missing or help you boost palkia )
stall + ramp = depth
I think the second leaf was pivotal for me. I wanna find a spot for Cyrus #2 but Sabrina held a lot of merit.
is cape more useful vs helmet for drudd?
well usually people dont wanna hit drudd anyways
@@knayvik is that the only reason why 2 capes n not 1n1???
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s im not an expert but i feel like cape provides more consistency than helmet because you already have darkrai hitting for 20 every turn, getting the extra 20 hp on magnezone gets it past the 150 breakpoint letting it live through a lot of heavy hitters
@@knayvik so doing 170 dmg with rocky/drud doesn’t equal capes hp boost value? The hp is more important? Jw for convo purposes.
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s well since people already dont want to hit drudd rocky helmet isnt going to get as much value whereas cape on magnezone allows it to hit its attack twice against something like mewtwo with no giovanni
it hits on the turn its evolved, then takes a 150 hit and attacks again resulting in 220 dmg total
I actually just placed 81st in the Ursiidays tournament using this deck, is busted, I went 7-3
Now I’m happy to have that promo magnemite with 20 damage
Too bad it needs 1 Lightning energy to attack. The new STS Magnemite uses Colourless to attack. So you can attack with dark energy attached
@ oh that’s cool, didn’t realize the one had colorless
This deck feels broken. Essentially getting two energy attachments per turn is crazy
Also no one is playing yanmega exeggutor, which is basically the same deck from dominant meta with more sustain, less highroll
Pfft they didn't know you owned the NFTS
I wonder what's the counter for this deck
The entire community will be on the look for exactly that. I would guess it's likely a fighting deck.
I think so too. Maybe a double Cyrus Hitmonlee and hitmonchan plus gio. Probably lucario.
This deck feels like it was missed in testing.
I kinda hope I see it in pvp so I can try my Rampardos / Lucario deck against it
@@scottlupa6061 might not hit fast enough tho, and might die to others
My prediction is the counter doesn't exist. At least doesn't exist right now.
A future set might print something that can deal with it (maybe we'll see a tool that nullifies ability damage or something), but for now, if anything dethrones this, it'll be another Darkrai deck.
I have not been critical of any Pocket meta until now. Every Darkrai deck is so much stronger than every deck that has existed until now. Gyarados could be bench sniped. Mewtwo could brick Gardevoir. Pikachu has always been consistent but never had a GREAT play turn1->3 and had overall low HP / was 1 dimensional.
These Darkrai decks are absolutely diabolical. The ONLY deck I’ve used that manages a positive winrate against them is grass variants that have Celebi or Exeggutor or both.
Every deck has a counter, including Darkrai, but meta counters don't just immediately appear. Everyone thought Celebi was insanely broken the first few days it was out.
@@Jesse-lv2yoWe do have data on an effective counter to Darkrai Magnezone!
Unfortunely it's another Darkrai deck, this one being Darkrai Greninja. Current data had it favorable against everything else though.
Insert “I did my part” meme…
I have everything except for 1 magnaton
20:00 hmm would you say rocky helm decks deserve replacing sab with cyrus?
I’m tryna find out why not 1 cape 1 rocky??
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s the problem with 1 of each instead of 2 of a kind is rly just consistency.
@@james-bx4wr I get the consistency point but maybe 2x Rocky’s 🤷♂️ if they 1hk drud/rocky thats 40hp plus 20hp + 110hp from Magnezon & Darkrai on your turn. Plus you get the chance to 1hk their mon before Capes hp buff would matter
@@NicholasTaggart-g1s same can be said for big cape of you dont get ohko with rocky. It's all a mater of which tool is more favorable against more match ups. Then again, we're just talking inches in a game of luck here.
@@james-bx4wr very true! My only other point was sometimes the thing about playing the best deck in the current meta is looking out for the mirror, so that 170hp in a turn may mean a lot against a Cape’d Magnezone/Darkrai
yep, power creep has hit Pokémon Pocket
Abilities in this game are very strong now. We need some form of ability lock or just a way to check them.
the sarcasm is too subtle. i dont think anyone will get it
I can't pull a second Darkrai. Aarrg!!!
Tbh I feel like energy zone should have restrictions
Misty magneton don't need them in energy zone
Comparatively mew being able to use dalgias energy pull on a deck with only psychic in use of his copy atk. Shouldn't work.
Infernape deck when
Tomorrow morning!
@HooglandiaPocket ayyy thanks I'm like the biggest infernape fan
I want that shirt.
Man, I'm really sad the strongest decks rn are a stall decks. Hoping when the dust settles, there's good counters
???? Darkrai, Weavile, Farfetchd is heavy aggro and is really good
@@TheBlaringBlue 1. I get you but I find the spiritomb/Weavile/Darkrai deck to be more consistent.
2. Magnezone/Darkrai/Drudd is starting to dominate at a lot of tournaments is what I mean.
I think he's also one of the most played games. I saw a lot of other derks beating 5+ of these decks in a row like aerodactyl/lucario, palkia/vaporeon/articuno, charizard/moltres
dialga ex 30 damage + 2 metal energy total 70 damage
Is cape interchangeable with rock helmet?
I would not make that switch. Cape brings both Magnezone and Darkrai to 160 HP to live a 150 damage Dimension Storm from Palkia. Despite M2 being less successful, 150 damage is still an important break point. Also helps you live hits from Yanmega and Infernape.
@ thank you, just don’t have any capes atm, but I get the reasoning
@@lancewren6870is that why not 1n1 split? Just to be safe from opposing attacks?
@NicholasTaggart-g1s
I think the extra 20 is less valuable than getting in that extra hit. Bc you survive.
@@scottlupa6061 I've actually just been running rock helmet to see and no one wants to attack my grud unless they can knock it out in one hit because of the 20+20 kick back damage. The opponent would waste both Sabrina as well.
More druddigon meta 😢
This is the most exciting deck I've seen from the new expansion. Can't wait to try this one out when I can.
Is there a link to where all the stats are compiled from these major tournaments? I see UA-camrs post the deck, but I’d like to peruse other decks that maybe aren’t the S tier deck? Thanks!
LimitlessTCG has tournaments and data from them.
Why play the new magnemite over the old one? As far as I know, they have identical stats appart from the old one hitting for 20 and the new one only hitting for 10...
No reason. Could be it’s simply new.
The new magnemite requires colorless energy to attack, the other one requires electric energy
@codename1176 I guess ideally it would never be the active pokemon anyways.
@@salvatorefabiano8375 that is most likely it. But then I have to ask when would it 10 damage really matter?
@@codename1176 10 deamage will rarely matter, but it hits for 30 into water cards, which puts palkia into magnezone range and manaphy into darkrai poke range.
How come Darkrai is weak to grass?
darkrai weakness to bug type, bug type is considered as grass type in this Pokemon TCG Pocket
But type weakness are rolled into the grass weakness in this game
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Meta report soon?
This afternoon
I really want to like/sub to this channel, but man, the host is so unnecessarily mean to random viewers asking simple (sometimes dumb, but I mean, these could be kids?) questions. Like, I love sarcasm, but his use of it is so off and just comes off as mean. There's a difference between making a joke at someone's expense and making a joke _with_ someone.
Could just be a comparison thing though; given that I discovered him through Spragels, who I think uses sarcasm in a much more kind and funny way.
My audience is 99.5% people 18+. It is 84% people over 25.
I promise you these are not children I'm responding to.
Would rocky helm be better than the cloak in this instance? To either put it on darkrai or drudegon?
No. Cloak on Darkrai or Magnezone means you survive 150 damage from Palkia, mewtwo and the likes who deal 150 damage in one turn.
@@GeorgeSuperstarMcAwesomeVilleI was curious too is that literally the only reason the splits not 1n1?
Yeah pretty much the only reason. Give one robe to Darkrai and one to Magnezone so they both get to 160. Also two robes helps you consistently draw it instead of just 1n1
@@GeorgeSuperstarMcAwesomeVille so Capes hp boost is more valuable than doing 170dmg w Rocky Drudd? Feel like doing 170hp might mean something 🤷♂️. I get the consistency tho.
Dont have old magneton, can anyone trade me?
Whoop
Zzzzzz. Wall decks are such a snoozefest. Hope Hitmonlee gets some help to counter this
I don’t know if you notice but you’re constantly twitching/moving around on camera and it’s super distracting
Pretty sure he’s got some kind of stationary bike or treadmill beneath the desk
He's on an exercise bike chair
Why are you staring at him and not at the game being played? Boggles the mind
He actually talks about the exercise chair he's sitting on in this very video
Hey did you just blow in from stupid town