Yep! When I see a mechanic who doesn't have in his/her toolbox and USE Loc-Tite 242 blue, 271 red, and for the Really critical stuff the green (480 I believe, it's been a while since I've had to go that extreme!!), I know I'm not looking @ a good mechanic... : 0'
I wonder how that works compared w Xtrig PHDS . I used it on TE300 and it was pretty useless except “motocross mode” . When landing hard, PHDS helps a lot, but as enduro anti-vibe stuff it did not help even with softest nuts.
Nice swap! Question #1: Wouldn't the whole handlebar dampening setup have been even better with the AHIS clamps AND the Flex-Bars both installed simultaneously ? Question #2: You've got a clean, sophisticated, and well organized shop and by the looks of it you've got several bikes and good working knowledge of maintenance/repair....likely also a pretty skilled rider/racer. BUT, with all of the trick stuff on your KTM you're still running the stock cast KTM triple clamps (when X-Trig R.O.C.S. and Nekken have the 'factory' billet forged/heat treated/anodized triple clamps available, both at reasonable cost)...Why ? I've seen 3 separate videos from around the world where those triple clamps broke and put the riders in the hospital, one is now paralyzed....and of course, all 3 bikes are destroyed...if it were me, I'd be putting those triple clamps in the recycle bin! Just sayin' .... Still very good video, THX ! : )'
thanks for sharing Timm, i was not aware of these clamps to brake, I am ok rider but I dont think I would feel the difference in the flexing if I would get aftermarket clamps, I never thought they are a safety issue. thats why I run stock clamps
I just swapped form the fasst flex bars to pro taper contour bars is it just me or with the flex bars does it feel like you are not in full control of the bike because of the rubber bushings
You want to sell me the flex bars? I really hate to pay that full price for them with out trying them first regardless of what the review say. Thanks for the videos and keep up the great work! Love your channel
@@JS-ny8sn nope 6 ft 1. I run low bars. Cr hi bend is dangerous is my opion. You loose alot of bike control that high up. You notice not one pro runs cr hi bend. Even the tall riders don't.
majority of these products are snake oil......BRP weighs a lot (took mine off, flex bars are also a joke and also weigh a ton), plus any bar mount allowing direct metal to metal connectivity "anywhere" (including mount nuts/bolts) will transmit vibration. The only bar mount on the market with NO DIRECT metal to metal (on the bar itself) is the Mako360, the bars are actually clamped with Elastomer Donuts, however it does not remove vibration completely, the Mako is just better than everything else...downside is they're very expensive.
I noticed, your routed the throttle cable wrong. Ktm run the throttle cable over the top then behind the bars down to the frame. So what's the prices like for these bar mounts. I want a set.
You get more shock absorption by reversing them the other way. Most forces are forward and down. They mostly absorb shock by down. The effect is multiplied by higher ape style bars. But as you have it mounted, your shock reduction comes only from jerking the bars reward for a wheelie. I wish he would build one slightly more beneficial to match the angle that most hits encounter. Vibration isolation is not accomplished with this product. The hinge needs go to the rear and the bumper forward to absorb. It's basically a hinge with a bumper. But, it is a good product. It could be made better using this as a pattern
@@dirtniron It's a good product. Be careful with dropping the bike for "end" bar hits. I'm still looking for a better system. I have broken 3 twisted engineering flex bars. I also have the Mako 360 XC bar mount. I have bad elbows so I need something? I think this style has the most potential if the angle was slightly changed and protected against bar end hit destruction. Taller bars work well because it promotes leverage to work the bumpers
sorry bro, this week I want to work on something, got some parts and plans I want to share. I have been busy with many projects lately, plus my boy started to ride, so we spend a lot of time on the bikes. I hope to move it forward very soon!
Me too! I was pleasantly surprised while watching the 2020 Lucas Oil (CoVid corrected [late and with limited spectators] season) motocross races. Right outta the gate @ the opener {Loretta Lynn's} 450 class there were (after what seems like forever for Suzuki RMs, RMXs) Max Anstie, Adam Entiknap, and some other guy 1/2/3 outta the gate!! 2 are U.S. 'factory' bikes but Max's comes from the U.K. yet they still all did well and the power was obviously dialed in....would like to see where/how you go with your RMZ, what you come up with! God Bless, Y'all ! : )'
Just looked on BKE website and these cost $275. Was hoping they’d be maybe half the price of Flexx bars but almost as much. I’m really looking forward to your review as I plan on getting one of these to help with arm pump. Does anyone have any input on the flexx bars?
Joe G it’s not just $75 difference your forgetting the currency difference, the flexx bars end up being around 460 cad compared to 275 cad, that’s 185 difference, you could buy a new set of tires for that much
Rado! Your good mechanic. I bet nothing will come loose.
Haha, you bet 😉
Yep! When I see a mechanic who doesn't have in his/her toolbox and USE Loc-Tite 242 blue, 271 red, and for the Really critical stuff the green (480 I believe, it's been a while since I've had to go that extreme!!), I know I'm not looking @ a good mechanic... : 0'
I've got the bke mounts on my beta xtrainer. Doesn't help much with vibrations. But it does take some of the hit out in gnarly trails
thanks for sharing!
Another great video, bike is looking snazzy like always
Nice... But why it doesn't comes with the top clamp together?
Thats a good question for bke racing 😉
It would only add to the cost, and many guys will have it covered with a bar pad anyway.
Hi dirt n iron I luv the decal u have wot the chance I cud have sum 2pt on my dirt bike plz thank
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No wot I was meaning is the dirt n iron decal plz if u cud spair any wud help me so much thank
What parched in this product sir I really have my royal bullet classic 500 cc salctid my bike
Really cool mod!
Would give them a try...
Enjoy the bike life 🤙
thanks bro, you too!
I wonder how that works compared w Xtrig PHDS . I used it on TE300 and it was pretty useless except “motocross mode” . When landing hard, PHDS helps a lot, but as enduro anti-vibe stuff it did not help even with softest nuts.
Great story Rado!
Thanks Andris!
Hi saw the new mods I'm jst on build a kdx220a bt after all video I've saw I still need sum decals cud any 1 help plz much thank .U.K
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Hi.....awesome channel ......look forward to the review.
Squeezing the bike with my legs has reduced my arm pump significantly
yea, I reduced my arm pump as well, on the track I could not go more than 10 minutes hard, now I can do 30+ minutes moto. Its about the technique too.
@@dirtniron , yeah i can only squeeze so long before the legs get tired as well lol
I added Stegz Pegs and my arm put has literally gone!! I thought they were BS but after 20 years riding I wish I had them from the start!
@@Cee-FJedi , yep I've been saving my pennies to get a pair
Bought a pair (steg pegz) today $169 delivered Australia dollar
Hi dirt N iron …can you sell this gke kit (ahis) because I can’t have answer from gkeracing ….(used or new kit is ok …for any model)
But you can’t get isolation because you got a solid link on one side, rubber on the other. Vibration will travel through that solid pivot
It’s funny, I rode a 2019 KTM and was surprised by lack of vibration.. modern day smokers don’t vibrate much at all
exactly, check my last video.. I rode 2020 tpi, super smooth!
its because the ktm 250s and 300s have a counter balance shaft
Nice swap! Question #1: Wouldn't the whole handlebar dampening setup have been even better with the AHIS clamps AND the Flex-Bars both installed simultaneously ? Question #2: You've got a clean, sophisticated, and well organized shop and by the looks of it you've got several bikes and good working knowledge of maintenance/repair....likely also a pretty skilled rider/racer. BUT, with all of the trick stuff on your KTM you're still running the stock cast KTM triple clamps (when X-Trig R.O.C.S. and Nekken have the 'factory' billet forged/heat treated/anodized triple clamps available, both at reasonable cost)...Why ? I've seen 3 separate videos from around the world where those triple clamps broke and put the riders in the hospital, one is now paralyzed....and of course, all 3 bikes are destroyed...if it were me, I'd be putting those triple clamps in the recycle bin! Just sayin' .... Still very good video, THX ! : )'
thanks for sharing Timm, i was not aware of these clamps to brake, I am ok rider but I dont think I would feel the difference in the flexing if I would get aftermarket clamps, I never thought they are a safety issue. thats why I run stock clamps
I just swapped form the fasst flex bars to pro taper contour bars is it just me or with the flex bars does it feel like you are not in full control of the bike because of the rubber bushings
it didnt bother me at all, I didnt even feel that they actually move. Did you try stiffer elastomers ?
Nice items...
You want to sell me the flex bars? I really hate to pay that full price for them with out trying them first regardless of what the review say. Thanks for the videos and keep up the great work! Love your channel
Thanks man, we can talk about it, send me an email - dirtniron7@gmail.com
Sent
Thank you very much
Try the MAKO 360
I cant believe it did not come with a top clamp. Kind of lame IMO.
it would be nice to have matching clamps
Do this work in 701 Husqvarna Supermoto 2018?
probably, check out bkeracing.com and send them an email
Where’s the RMZ 🤔 your killin me😂
I know dude, i want to do it so bad, always something holding me back. Hope to get on it soon!
HI, do these bar mounts work well?
I owe you guys a follow up video. they are ok.. they do reduce impact.
Where is the review of this mod
Not yet, doing more riding before i do the review
Get rid of those ape hangers. You will have better control. And they also look gross
haha, thats funny. what bend do you ride?
Randy Reynolds
You must be short, ;)
@@JS-ny8sn nope 6 ft 1. I run low bars. Cr hi bend is dangerous is my opion. You loose alot of bike control that high up. You notice not one pro runs cr hi bend. Even the tall riders don't.
Only KTM? They make them for Suzuki?
check bkeracing.com
the Xtrig ones are alot better...
did you try both ?
Dam I could use that on my ttr250
Anybody wanna send a poor guy some parts hit me up
:)
$275 ....???!!! come on get something else...pipeguard for 2stroke...or get better gear for yourself.
got pipe guard and a gear too ;) but I get your point though
These are absolute junk 😂😂😂
majority of these products are snake oil......BRP weighs a lot (took mine off, flex bars are also a joke and also weigh a ton), plus any bar mount allowing direct metal to metal connectivity "anywhere" (including mount nuts/bolts) will transmit vibration. The only bar mount on the market with NO DIRECT metal to metal (on the bar itself) is the Mako360, the bars are actually clamped with Elastomer Donuts, however it does not remove vibration completely, the Mako is just better than everything else...downside is they're very expensive.
thanks for sharing, appreciate it
I noticed, your routed the throttle cable wrong. Ktm run the throttle cable over the top then behind the bars down to the frame. So what's the prices like for these bar mounts. I want a set.
thanks. are you sure older KTM have the same routing? look up some old pics of 2004.. I was doing that when assembling the bike during my build
@@dirtniron Price??
@DirtNIron how much higher are the bars now? Seems like the bars are quite a bit higher off the clamp.
dont remember exactly, but little higher than before..
With a pretty much fit any bike?
Did the installation of the AHIS clamps give a big reduction in vibration in the handlebars ?
i have follow up video, all explained there.. do the search: dirt n iron ahis
You get more shock absorption by reversing them the other way. Most forces are forward and down. They mostly absorb shock by down. The effect is multiplied by higher ape style bars. But as you have it mounted, your shock reduction comes only from jerking the bars reward for a wheelie. I wish he would build one slightly more beneficial to match the angle that most hits encounter. Vibration isolation is not accomplished with this product. The hinge needs go to the rear and the bumper forward to absorb. It's basically a hinge with a bumper. But, it is a good product. It could be made better using this as a pattern
i changed the position already, need to test it, I will share the video soon
@@dirtniron It's a good product. Be careful with dropping the bike for "end" bar hits. I'm still looking for a better system. I have broken 3 twisted engineering flex bars. I also have the Mako 360 XC bar mount. I have bad elbows so I need something? I think this style has the most potential if the angle was slightly changed and protected against bar end hit destruction. Taller bars work well because it promotes leverage to work the bumpers
Good work on the channel. My son is Braydon Price, so I am familiar with all the hard work it takes to do this. Keep grinding out the videos
Thank you, will do my beat. Glad to see you here sir 😉 thanks for sharing your experience as well!
good stuff, i like that position
Rado when will the rmz 450 next build pt be cause I'm getting anxious for it lol
sorry bro, this week I want to work on something, got some parts and plans I want to share. I have been busy with many projects lately, plus my boy started to ride, so we spend a lot of time on the bikes. I hope to move it forward very soon!
@@dirtniron ye I've seen the post on Instagram he is doing exelent on it tell to keep pushing
Me too! I was pleasantly surprised while watching the 2020 Lucas Oil (CoVid corrected [late and with limited spectators] season) motocross races. Right outta the gate @ the opener {Loretta Lynn's} 450 class there were (after what seems like forever for Suzuki RMs, RMXs) Max Anstie, Adam Entiknap, and some other guy 1/2/3 outta the gate!! 2 are U.S. 'factory' bikes but Max's comes from the U.K. yet they still all did well and the power was obviously dialed in....would like to see where/how you go with your RMZ, what you come up with! God Bless, Y'all ! : )'
$275 for these and as some people pointed out they don't even come with the top clamp. Would rather spend my money on flexx bars
Can I get these in the uk?
not sure, email them
Get a xc gear mako 360 bar mounts.
i have to check it out, thanks for suggestion
Just looked on BKE website and these cost $275. Was hoping they’d be maybe half the price of Flexx bars but almost as much. I’m really looking forward to your review as I plan on getting one of these to help with arm pump. Does anyone have any input on the flexx bars?
I wouldn't pay more than $40 for what 2 cut steel and some rubber pads from a hood / trunk stops come on
flexx bars works good for me, have them for like 2 years now..
Joe G website said $275 cad, flexx bars are around 350 usd, that’s a pretty big difference in price
Modsquad16 ...thanks for that. Didn’t realize it was cad. Not too bad compared to flexx bars. That’s why I want to know the comparison
Joe G it’s not just $75 difference your forgetting the currency difference, the flexx bars end up being around 460 cad compared to 275 cad, that’s 185 difference, you could buy a new set of tires for that much
Great stuff again, if you want to give the flex bars a new home you can send them over to Australia (Coffs Harbour) and I will give them a new home.
haha, shipping is too much ;)
Yes the shipping is crazy high, I was just mucking around. Your channel is great and getting more involved, keep it up. :)
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