Bach: Prelude No. 2 in C minor (BWV 847)

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  • @brunonono2216
    @brunonono2216 6 років тому +1

    les gens n'ont rien d'autres à faire que de critiquer votre prestation qui tient la route, quand je lis les commentaires. ils doivent tous être des Bach et autres Mozart nés !!!! j'aimerai les écouter rien que pour rire. moi je dis bravo à vous.

  • @reichhardbuerger1492
    @reichhardbuerger1492 12 років тому

    Nice ending, gives a mysterious touch to the piece and prepares the listener for this great fugue to follow. Every time astonishing how many ways there are to approach the incredible Bach. Thank you for showing us your interpretation.

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  17 років тому

    Enfin, quelqu'un qui écoute au lieu simplement de justement "regarder" ;)
    En conclusion, il est tout une question de préférence, mais je vous
    remercie de votre encouragement !

  • @stargirlsusan
    @stargirlsusan 16 років тому

    i love it this is my favorite piece of Bach, and i got to say you did it just perfect, fantastique, awsome, Bach would be proud of u

  • @keithmpm
    @keithmpm 14 років тому

    thanx clyfton this videos really helped me.I think people should do more above keyboard camera angles they`re very useful for us non sight reading players.Great video!The fact that you played the presto section the same speed as the first has also helped me no end. Thanx again

  • @Opusdays
    @Opusdays 17 років тому

    Je trouve cette vidéo et ce jeu musical très intéressants ainsi que les différents commentaires ci-dessous.Le rhythme joué ici n'est pas standardisé et bien comme il faut(cfr bad commentaires)mais il est bien au-dessus de la moyenne académique,de libre interprétation,très nuancé et donne toute la sensibilité à ce morceau qui pourrait être perçu non plus comme une technique en soi, mais une forme d'interprétation plus libre.Donc BRAVO à toi Clyfton, un 5 étoiles pour toi!

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  17 років тому

    This is one out of a hundred different ways of playing it!
    Playing this piece in a more "rubato" kind of fashion isn't exactly the result of me having difficulties playing the piece, I'm simply experimenting.

  • @thinkgreenlovepurple
    @thinkgreenlovepurple 15 років тому

    me too, it makes me want to learn harpsichord! Bach sounds awesome on the harpsichord, I love the sound of that instrument.

  • @crazybubbles317
    @crazybubbles317 18 років тому

    WOW! You didn't make one mistake!!! (or if you did I didn't notice) I played the same piece last year. After so many notes, I remember how tired my fingers felt towards the end. It's quite an accomplishment to play that piece so well. I am in awe!!!

  • @Monrealese
    @Monrealese 17 років тому

    Nice played! Beautifull view on the hands:)

  • @drmwong66
    @drmwong66 12 років тому

    Thank you for putting this on UA-cam

  • @rrrulian
    @rrrulian 14 років тому

    Just AMAZING !

  • @styleguru92
    @styleguru92 16 років тому

    I love this you play it really well.

  • @butterfly7620
    @butterfly7620 17 років тому

    waa tu joue inimaginablement bien!
    very very beautiful :)

  • @thetrinity72
    @thetrinity72 17 років тому

    You did a wonderful job.

  • @FREEASTHESTARS
    @FREEASTHESTARS 17 років тому

    this is very good you're a great musician!

  • @Goodi8
    @Goodi8 17 років тому

    Great Job....we each have our own style of playing pieces and I think sometimes they take the classical techniques a little to far...for some people its never perfect but People are not Perfect
    Great Job

  • @zoe1123
    @zoe1123 17 років тому

    you have beautiful hands...and ur playing is also beautiful!
    i agree with croox!

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  17 років тому

    I agree. I've played this piece for such a long time, it feels like I've played it in a thousand different ways... I guess I'll have to upload and post a more "normal" version of it :D

  • @spacecommander12
    @spacecommander12 16 років тому

    ...without variation music would never change. music thrives because of how much experimentation has been done with it and how it is able to adapt to changing tastes. music wouldn't survive without experimentation

  • @AlbertvisionMX
    @AlbertvisionMX 15 років тому

    i don´t know what you are talking about but i most say that if you are playing a song reading a score , you most play it as it is , for this reason are symbols in scores that indicate you how to play it and you most play it as it is written

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  15 років тому

    That's just the ting! I don't read sheet music, but instead I play by ear. That's probably why I'm so clueless to this grading system for the piano :P

  • @huskylexi
    @huskylexi 15 років тому

    This song is written in C minor. What you have might be a transcribed version in a different key signature, but since this is the second piece in Book I of the Well-Tempered Clavier, it is definitely in C minor originally.

  • @albuseverus
    @albuseverus 17 років тому

    I love this!

  • @bolawarrior
    @bolawarrior 14 років тому

    bach used to focus harpiscord in the beginning he just never let that go, listen to gould playing he perfected the harpiscord -way of playing on the piano

  • @IslandShinKiba
    @IslandShinKiba 16 років тому

    You're not wrong... You're right! I believe a person should "Play with their heart, not with their mind."

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  14 років тому

    @LowFrequency10 actually, i think you're absolutely right!

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  15 років тому

    Deep, man...

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    That's great, and even though I wasn't exactly asking for your help, I'm not disagreeing with you. I've known this piece for more than 12 years, and I've played it in a thousand different ways. This is one of them, and I agree that it's FAR to romantic. Still, I quite enjoy trying different things. I even played this piece in 7/8 mode instead of 8/8 which is what it's "supposed" to be, and that sounded pretty cool too!

  • @WildWiggler
    @WildWiggler 10 років тому

    I think you did well. Much better than I can do, can't really get it up to speed but I got the notes down

  • @00bean00
    @00bean00 16 років тому

    That's my problem when I play this piece, too---but I've noticed playing improv "drills" with my foot thumping helps!

  • @MatkoFaka
    @MatkoFaka 15 років тому

    i like it with the pedal very much :-)
    Iam not formally educated in music so i don't care wheter it's wrong or right using the pedal when it comes to bach . I just like it this way.

  • @PowerRedBullTypology
    @PowerRedBullTypology 15 років тому

    Comments starting with "Should be" or " you can not" never really make sense to me. This is music, and people can play a song however they feel like. It's all personal and those who are drilled too much by their teachers are really missing out. If everyone played a song exactly the same, why even bother to listen to others? Variation keeps things fresh in my opinion

  • @sarabush1877
    @sarabush1877 10 років тому

    Did you know this is used in a carpenters song?? I never realised it was a classical piece first!
    I was mesmerised watching this - so envious of those who have musical ability.........

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  15 років тому

    I'll second that. I don't understand which the "actual melodic line" would be. I also find it funny that the one thing that FaeEvelyn actually did appreciate was the lack of pedal, considering the pedal was used extensively throughout the recording of this prelude.

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    yes, felt like trying it! :)

  • @LucasRundblad
    @LucasRundblad 16 років тому

    Great job :)

  • @Barbievendas
    @Barbievendas 14 років тому

    muito bem executada!

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    I guess it depends, but if I have the time to really sit down with a certain piece, I'd say it would take me a couple of weeks. Interestingly, most of the progress is actually made in between sessions. I never play for more than a few hours and then, when I return to the piano the next day, it's sortof "etched" into my head somehow :)

  • @puchalaka
    @puchalaka 16 років тому

    REQUEST: Chopin:Mazurka in A minor Op. 17 No. 4
    Please!
    I was the guy who wrote a comment about performing Beethoven's Moonlight in Wichita KS, which i learned off of your excellent playing.

  • @tarnashun
    @tarnashun 15 років тому

    my favorite part is the cracking the knuckles thing at the beginning. and use as much pedal as you want. you are the one playing it. sheesh people with the rules already....

  • @blapo38
    @blapo38 16 років тому

    I'm amazed at how people say what is right and what is wrong when they talk about classical music, as if they were in possession of the truth. And what is truth? Is yours the same as mine?

  • @kapsico
    @kapsico 18 років тому

    Perfect :)

  • @GuybThreepwood
    @GuybThreepwood 17 років тому

    That's an interesting point. Although Bach didn't compose for the piano (and primarily for the harpsichord and organ that had no sustain pedal), I wonder what he would've thought of it? Bach's works are so mired in history that there isn't a "correct" interpretation - so keep on with your experimentation. One of Bach's greatest interpreters (Glenn Gould) took the Goldberg variations in two very different perspectives and both are widely praised.

  • @mezina92
    @mezina92 15 років тому

    i love how you played this song! great interpretation!! the original is fast, but it's too fast for me. this way i can actually notice the notes you play w/out having to glance at my music. 5 stars! :)

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    i agree. even tough i love the work of glenn gould, his rendition of this particular piece is a bit mechanical in my opinion. sviatoslav richter, however, played it masterfully!
    i should admit though that this recording of mine is a bit experimental - i'm not trying to play it the way that bach (perhaps) would have preferred :) cheers

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  17 років тому

    It seems I will have to prove my musical competence simply by submitting material that better suits your preferences.
    What I call variations, you call mistakes. I haven't had any formal training, so I wouldn't know the first thing about what is taught during piano lessons. I'll just have to keep trying and improve my playing.

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  17 років тому

    Im experimenting. This piece has been with me for the longest time, and I never settled for the ONE and only way of playing it. I wouldn't want your piano teacher, that's for sure.
    Maybe I should upload series of recordings on this piece, since people seem to think it should be played in a great number of (different) ways. I've tried the more rubato approach, the very strictly baroque approach (more true to its time) and even a 7/8 note conversion of it :)

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    I actually agree with you here. This particular performance is a bit too "romantic" for Bach, so too speak. I should tell you, though, that this piece has been with me since I was around 9 years old. I've played this prelude in a thousand different ways, this being one of the more experimental ones :p I've even tried playing it in a 7/8 beat, which sounds really weird :)
    I should re-post a more "traditional" recording of this piece.

  • @Opusdays
    @Opusdays 17 років тому

    Mais de rien! et mon commentaire est très objectif!
    Je ne vous connais pas et lorsque j'écoute une vidéo effectivement, j'écoute le jeu musical sans regarder l'image d'abord. On sent une maîtrise du jeu et donc une permission d'aller au-delà du jeu "bien comme il faut" - Excellent! C'est mon prochain morceau à travailler pour mes cours à l'académie...

  • @tazzmatic7
    @tazzmatic7 15 років тому

    This piece should be played with more contrast in each line. I learned this for my senior recital and the biggest thing on it is the dynamics that could be to repetitive and boring.

  • @human-condition
    @human-condition 15 років тому

    good work

  • @SheetMusicHunter
    @SheetMusicHunter 14 років тому

    @Spinprovisation To me, piano isn't just the speed of your fingers and his synchro ... If he wants to play like this, why not but he'll see soon enough that it's a huge flaw and he'll be limited technically. And after all, I think everybody must play with musicality and research of a great sound (except if you just play for fun but not in a video).

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  15 років тому

    I agree also. This particular recording is a bit too "experimental", even for my own taste. However, I have no objections when it comes to experimenting in general. Not every single rendition or recording can possibly aim to please every single listener, regardless of style and taste. If there was an exact, flawless way of playing any piece, we would have computers doing that for us.

  • @AndrewGorny
    @AndrewGorny 16 років тому

    rubato choice is entirely subjective. The true rubato tradition of baroque germany is unknown. However, I think that this is performed too legato to truly estimate the harmonic development.
    This is one of my favorite pieces, I'm glad it's being played!!! Listen to Glenn Gould play this, I think he might have bested even Trevor Pinnock

  • @Obby007
    @Obby007 15 років тому

    respect... i couldn't do it better.

  • @dpludwig
    @dpludwig 16 років тому

    personally i prefer it a bit slower, but what you really need is more clarity for the secondary line

  • @TopSideUp
    @TopSideUp 17 років тому

    that is absolutely how it is played. if i've ever heard somone imphasize a peice with loose relax natural structure its shown here. you can't control your tempo without loose structure wich comes with much practice and to a natural musician. post your version of this song. BTW how long you've played an instrument does not make someone a certified rythm inspector, its a natural understanding built into your mind anyone can tell, he plays it perfect,
    PS good use of your thhumb xD

  • @Aluvians
    @Aluvians 17 років тому

    Great performance -- I dig the tempo changes, especially at the beginning (in contrast to the guy below).
    I'd have to disagree with his assertion, also, that shifting tempo is "un-Bach." This piece was probably intended to be performed on a harpsichord (rather than, say, an organ).

  • @guitarman14339
    @guitarman14339 14 років тому

    and speaking of tempo just want to point out that this is about 2/3 the "correct" tempo.

  • @kcdaisley
    @kcdaisley 15 років тому

    very interesting perpsective ... camera above the piano ... you can really see your technique

  • @PowerRedBullTypology
    @PowerRedBullTypology 14 років тому

    @xXVanquishedSoULXx
    I think its refreshing to sound somethnig played differently. What is even the point in listening to different players if they all more or less play a piece the same? I think variety of performance can keep a piece fresh. The thing is alwaysthat in those times most of those composers were pretty progressive, while quite agroup of stuck up audience now looks at it as something extremely conservative. * playing correct* and those kind of words do not match music..its freedom

  • @wogandmush
    @wogandmush 16 років тому

    It is yes.

  • @thefatalnight
    @thefatalnight 14 років тому

    you're hands are gorgeous!!! D=

  • @DarknessHowls
    @DarknessHowls 16 років тому

    There's nothing wrong with adding your own touch to a classical composition. God only knows how many times it has been done the "right" way--sometimes it's a good thing to break the rules. It breaths fresh air into a tired old song. And there is no "right" way, anyway. It's a work of art, and everyone has a different way of interpreting it. Even Bach's word isn't law, and if you like playing the song differently, do it.
    That said, I think this would have been better without the pedal.

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    haha I actually agree to a certain extent!

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    thanks for your thoughts! I gotta ask you tho, do you get off being a class A armchair critic or what? I'm not saying your criticism is groundless, but going off on a rant like that? haha!
    I also love the fact that it is you, and you alone, who determines whether or not I have in fact "felt" the piece. From a musical, technical, interpretive and emotional standpoint, I'm not even going to dignify your comments with an answer.

  • @2tallblues
    @2tallblues 15 років тому

    I see where you're coming from and I agree, but they were written for the period instruments, and in order to replicate them effectively you need to play in the style (i.e. no sustain pedal for Baroque keyboard music). Of course it sounds nice, and I involuntarily use the sustain pedal regardless because I like how it sounds, but if I were to replicate the music I would avoid using it. I like this recording, I'm trying to learn this piece now I was just sayin :)

  • @gunz300
    @gunz300 15 років тому

    The speed was fine, doesn't need to be faster just a steadier tempo.

  • @Aluvians
    @Aluvians 17 років тому

    (cont...)
    You can only vary dynamics on a harpsichord if you're playing one with stops, and changing stops in a piece like this is pretty impractical. That said, the only way to make this piece NOT sound robotic on a harpsichord is to let the tempo float a li'l bit.
    ...THAT, and my Norton Anthology recording of this piece (a "historically informed" performance, y'know?) features the same kind of tempo-fudging.

  • @SheetMusicHunter
    @SheetMusicHunter 14 років тому

    @bled12345 haha maybe I will post some music ? ^^ Internet ... you can hear fantastic people play but there is also very bad people. Just compare. You know, my criticism is not free, I have arguments and he can progress by having these in mind.

  • @Diffomega
    @Diffomega 14 років тому

    @PowerRedBull We have the same thought, that's why I don't take classes, I hate what piano teachers do by wanting that the tempo is the most perfect ever. That's why I learn by myself.
    Also, you got a rare-probaly-not-going-to-see-again-really-rare-I-never-give-thumbs-up from me.

  • @OriginalBasaliskos
    @OriginalBasaliskos 14 років тому

    @clyfton I'm the same way. I can read music, I mean, but I can't sight-read. It's too uncomfortable. Besides, memorization usually comes with practice.

  • @xXVanquishedSoULXx
    @xXVanquishedSoULXx 14 років тому

    Experimenting with your own style of playing is good though. I agree that not everyone should play the piece the same. Each pianist should put forth their very own interpretation of what they play.

  • @SheetMusicHunter
    @SheetMusicHunter 14 років тому

    @PowerRedBull
    people can but dt respect what the author want. I love music, I dt always listen to my teacher but I have a style to play things. For example I dt really like Glenn Gould's play but it's nice. A RESEARCH ! You cannot enjoy a music (but really) if you dt study it. But you can play a song differently than others.

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  15 років тому

    Thank you!
    What is level 9? I'm sorry but I don't know anything about levels, but it feels like being "done" is something you wouldn't really want to achieve, ever :P

  • @ejt00b
    @ejt00b 16 років тому

    Beautiful performance - I just started learning this piece. Any tips on fingerings? My version has none written in.
    I'll post a video response one of these days with my progress.

  • @SBZ925
    @SBZ925 15 років тому

    hear hear!!!!

  • @drssdinblck
    @drssdinblck 17 років тому

    I have to agree with GirlieCartmen. There are many rhythmic mistakes. And of course, someone who has played the piano for 13 years can judge this better than a beginner. Getting a rhythmic feeling is something you learn during your piano-lessons.

  • @YuTubeWeTube
    @YuTubeWeTube 15 років тому

    @PowerRedBull
    hear, hear!

  • @FullAnarchyDotNet
    @FullAnarchyDotNet 14 років тому

    this sounds like the face shrine theme from zelda links awakening...
    or perhaps more aptly, that sounds like this...
    Except this is at least twice as fast XD

  • @jennaofthecuckooclan
    @jennaofthecuckooclan 15 років тому

    I saw the hands go back and thought it was going to be faster :(

  • @werewolfboy97
    @werewolfboy97 14 років тому

    The pedal is a bit too much, but this could use some dynamics in the piece. I play this with the speed of the metronome and the rubato is kinda overused a bit in the piece. Sorry for all the details but I loved the Adagio part, but too much rubato there too. Great playing though ^^

  • @Monrealese
    @Monrealese 17 років тому

    I uploaded the first prelude played on harpsichord. Have you seen it? Tell me wat you think of it :)

  • @bled12345
    @bled12345 14 років тому

    @SheetMusicHunter
    wtf is a deep research of sound even mean? I think he played it beautifully, I love how random internet people always have criticism, you prolly blow at piano.

  • @TX9335
    @TX9335 15 років тому

    omfg castlevania!!

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  17 років тому

    well, they're the only ones I have

  • @NicJSB
    @NicJSB 10 років тому

    Strange fingering but it sounds good. I really like your interpretation in the middle

  • @PowerRedBullTypology
    @PowerRedBullTypology 14 років тому

    @Diffomega
    haha thanx. I did not even know my comment had so many votes. thanx all

  • @GabrielRoaCueto
    @GabrielRoaCueto 12 років тому

    You don't understand. A classical musician should pay respects to the composer, and the way he wrote piece. The piano didn't even exist in that time, and you couldn't just play around with the tempo. You can add your touch to it, but not over-romanticize it, and add pedal, because that's not the way it was written. If you're playing Chopin or Liszt it's a whole different subject, but this is Bach.

  • @porto1432
    @porto1432 17 років тому

    That's not quite true. There are rules to music styles, and different rules make different styles. We can of course play and enjoy this piece in any style we want but it will no longer be in the style of Bach. That's all I meant. He plays this piece much more fluently than I do yet though, just so we know I didn't mean to put anyone down.

  • @TurboBinch
    @TurboBinch 16 років тому

    Exactly. So you should try to make it as authentic a performance as you can.

  • @94jettameowpsst
    @94jettameowpsst 16 років тому

    meant to ask you, how long does it typically take you to learn a song?

  • @SheetMusicHunter
    @SheetMusicHunter 14 років тому

    @Spinprovisation 90% of the battle ? Just to tell you, it is just the beginning ... you say enjoying the sound but he's just playing on tempi but not in expression. And seriously, do you think it's what Bach want ? ... it's always the same intensity ... If you play ancient instruments you'll understand ... as I think you don't realize this. And after all we can also play faster than this ... Moreover, we don't know if he don't want to play speedy or if he can't ... I think it's a mix of the two.

  • @porto1432
    @porto1432 17 років тому

    Very nice. But I don't think that's how Bach should be played. There's so much freedom in dynamics and tempo it sounds almost like a romantic piece.

  • @00bean00
    @00bean00 16 років тому

    BWV 847

  • @clyfton
    @clyfton  16 років тому

    I'm sorry to have bored you with it. I just felt like trying something different for a change. I'll admit that it can be played a lot more beautifully, no doubt :)
    I'll have to try again...

  • @liverpoolRed09
    @liverpoolRed09 12 років тому

    hahaa. Wow, it's sad that 2 solid minutes of great piano playing have been overshadowed by the first 2 seconds of the video. BUT.... it's true.

  • @EMPERORMIKI
    @EMPERORMIKI 15 років тому

    Me too.

  • @LongDriveChamp03
    @LongDriveChamp03 16 років тому

    this prelude is fun but it took me like a month to master it.