Screening a Well from Tons of Sand to Prevent Collapse. Alot of Water & Sand!!!
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In this video we a 4" Pvc Well Screen. Similar to a well liner, but a slightly different process. It's very common practice to use Screened casing in costal areas & areas that are prone to collapse.
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Glad to see the old man opening up to the camera!
One day the videos & memories will be all I have left, so I feel it's necessary to get him in on the action
You're absolutely right not just you also grandkids there will be a time when you get to hand the business off anyways thanks for the videos have always had a curiosity of well drilling@@h2omechanic
I have a well but I'm not into drilling wells but something about y'all doing it and explaining it the way you do. I'm always happy when you release a new video
Thank you, Phil, for all your time, effort, and energy...filming and producing these videos. Indeed, you shoulder the load of 3 jobs. More to the point, you bear the burden required to do the work, and homeowners like me reap the valuable benefits.
Again, thank you. Kudos to you, your Dad, and your crew. Cheers.
It is always great to have someone at the supply house that has been in the field. They are more knowledgeable than someone that has been brought in from high school to be nothing more than a parts locator. I am a field tech in HVAC and I have more knowledge than those guys from high school and they learn more from me. I even have to locate parts on the web when the supply houses say they can't get the part. I usually find my part in some obscure corner of the web of a business that lists it and are surprised they still had it and willing to sell it for less if they can move the last 2 or 3 they will have left in the box. I always thought screen liner was bigger slots with cheese cloth over it. Thanks for the info.
Any videos you do is great, something about just watching the whole operation go is just satisfying to watch. Always look forward to your videos
Your dad talking more would be nice, a video explaining the complete process from planning/ permits to turning the pump on would be cool. I really like your videos
I like the idea of the gravel in the casing, how do you know that the center pipe is centered inside the casing.??? If it's not centered won't sand work it's way into the inner pipe ?? Just a thought...
At the point where the screen is at the pipe most likely still has a roughly even gap on all sides. Cause it’s so long him pushing the top up against the other pipe won’t move much further down.
I know you probably won't get other comments. I've been drilling Wells up in Northeast Nebraska. And we do this way all the time, I have to drill a hole. You have to put the casing in.
Will we stick a cap on the bottom? It seems to save a lot of problems. I just thought maybe I would mention it.
I worked for a a drilling co. twenty years here in west Tm. Slotted screen is all we used. Whether PVC or metal. We have very little rock formation here, nearly all sand, gravel and clay. Keep up the good work. I enjoy the videos. l
Here in NW Florida, well screen is not optional, it is required for the sand and gravel aquifer.
I enjoy the process. I see your busy. A follow up vid to see the end result would be great! Thanks for sharing 👍
I had my first well drilled two years ago and ended up with my wife and I setting the pump ourselves. Your videos explain a lot about some of the things you deal with and how you have to manage those things to make it a success. I find it very interesting. Is hydrofracking how you typically recover a well or are there other methods that are also useful? Just curious
Every well I have seen in michigan has casing all the way down and a screen on the bottom held in with a k packer and if they are not using submersible a brimmer check will also be installed
Did I miss an explanation but wouldn't the sand eventually fill in the space between the filter pipe and the liner. Great videos btw ..ohhh, congrats on paying off the mortgage, it's a great feeling isn't it :-).
Our well was only drilled to 75ish ft. with 35 ft. of screen at the bottom, static level is at about 30ish ft., producing about 15 gpm. Natural springs all around us.
That's a great idea! Then regular filters. How about clearing out a blocked or dirty well, and improve flow before deciding to frack. You might have done that.
someone should make a funnel that fits over the 6" pipe so make adding the gravel easier
I’ve seen that pipe before but never knew what it was for, Learn something new everyday.
My Dad and his partner were in the domestic (4 & 6-inch casing) and irrigation well, 16-inch casing! drilling business in the 1960's and 1970's. In South Dakota we always had to put a screen at the bottom of the well casing and then gravel pack with gravel. You need the right kind of gravel to make it work.
yah more solid & sure ..😂😂
We usually put in 200 foot of perf pipe and then put in gravel up to100 foot and then cement to the surface.
Nice vid. Got a question. My well was dug 160’. Static level is 44’, max output is at 89’ at 8-10 gpm. How deep would u put the pump. Btw, I just bought some quality products from H2O mechanic, pump & wire.
I'd set it at 100ft or 120ft max. The deeper you go, the more sediment issues you might face. If water enters at 89ft, setting the pump at 85ft would decrease sediment. But set it deeper to start with, if sediment is bad, you can pull it up as needed.
@@h2omechanic thanks
@h2omechanic I have a 2 line jet pump system. The head is 48" below grade, (i live in the north east) i plan to switch to a submersible with a pitless adaper and bring the well cap above grade. There's only so long the galvanized pipe will last before it leaks from the inside out.
Can you make a video on that conversion?
@@h2omechanic I agree, 120 would be my depth.
My wonder exactly. It seems the gravel would just push the liner to one side. Especially when the gravel is all applied on one side.
You raise casing with straps, but liner with clamps? What’s the difference?
@H2o Mechanic - You certainly need to get your dad in your videos more and more! My dad drilled water wells and did pump work for almost 40 years and I worked with him in my younger years until I graduated HS. My dad operated cable tool machines, mainly Bucyrus-Erie 22W & Bucyrus-Erie 20Ws. He retired from drilling in the mid 80s and continued doing pump work for a few years until he had a stroke and was unable to work and passed away in 1997. I don’t have any pictures of him drilling but I do have many memories. Get all of the pictures and videos that you can of your dad because once he’s gone he’s gone!!! I had a cable tool drill rig engraved into the back of his head stone at his grave. I’m so glad I found your channel and would like to know your name.
Nice. I have a 6 inch 40 ft well with a stainless screen in the bottom. Sand and gravel geology in north central Wisconsin makes 15 gal / min.
Great videos just subscribed today from Ontario Canada thanks Robert
Video idea:
Do you guys add special filters for iron / magnesium, etc..? If so, can you show and explain that process?
I really enjoy your videos and learning something new every time. Especially in this one, I had no idea that the screened wells in sandy soils sometimes.
Cool 😎
I have a quick question regarding wells over in the states.
What happens if you drill a well say to 300’ @ 20GPM But you make a mistake and the well gets damaged. Which makes it unusable!
Does that mean the client has to pay for a new well to be bored?
The question made more sense in my head than being put to text.
The reason I asked is because it you drill and the well is no good, then the client has to pay for the new well to be dug eg well is producing less than 3GPH?
Ghost Town Living is looking for help running water up from a mine 900ft below ground in his latest video...
It looks like all the rock was dumped on one side of the pipe. Shouldn’t you pull the pipe more to center and pour rock all around it?
I recently saw a short video showing the pump and all hose being blown out of the well. I would like to see a video explaining that
In the Texas Panhandle, that is business as usual.
I need a well drilled in wisconsin, I wish you were closer, I wouldn’t even call another well driller for a quote. And I would wait as long as possible for you to get it done. Nice work !!
Just wondering did yall put a cap on the end of the first piece (bottom) of the casing?
Hello Phillip, I appreciate the videos. On this well, if I understand correctly, the solid pipe at the bottom is simply a foundation for the screen to set on. Where do you set the pump?
Another thing that I don't quite understand. In drilling, exactly how do you know when you hit water?
The 6" pipe blocks out the upper dirt & goes into Bedrock. Hitting water we notice it by the sound of the hammer, the percussion changes for a few seconds, then the flow increases away from the water water/cuttings. In this case the pump will go at 100ft near the bottom of the screen
Great educational content . South of me about a hour the wells are 4” sand wells that operate on the same principle . Thanks again 👍👍
What did well drillers do before this type of pipe?If they ran into this situation.
Use a saw blade & cut slits into regular casing.
I would love to see well system troubleshooting and repairs!
Great video. Really interesting
That was kool an seriously interesting
I have learn so much over the years! You guys rock! Thanks for all the information.
If you ever decide to move the operation to the Texas Hill Country you would run the show around here with fracking, air lift, solar and screening work. My 19 year old daughter thinks your the best, says its a shame you not local LOL! She's not too crazy about the weird lazy young boys now days and your style and mentality has her watching a lot. She helps in my videos so I can see how that thinking comes from. I was a Pipe Fitter/Plumber/Well Driller in my youth and wish I could do it again but health and that work must align!
@JOHNDANIEL1 You peaked my curiosity, so I had to check out your channel. You both are great on camera and are getting close to 100k subscribers! So congrats on that! It's refreshing to see another family unit making videos together, she seems like a real sweetheart in such a bitter world we're in these days. Tell her to never change! I never forget comments like yours & the people who are on the other end of them! If your ever in NC/VA stop by & say hey! Philip
@@h2omechanic My partner in Off Grid materials Tony is in Roanoke so if you want to do solar wells or off grid let me know. We have been doing air lift well cleaning here. Silt is the enemy in the Texas Hill Country. A good water fracker and bore sweeper would be rich here. I'm too beat up my self and broke to get that game started here LOL! Tony has property he needs a well on right about the Virginia and NC line.
@JOHNDANIEL1 well we live in Clarksville Va, right on the lake. Roanoke is maybe 100 miles from us.
You have taught me alot about how a well works. Thank you.
00:07:40 Does the bell get primed?
Great father & son Team running the business & Doin the "Hands-on" work.....More Dad action & voice footage please ! .....Take Lots of real Optical photos for Memories that Don't need batteries or electronics but Last past your lifetimes & Easily viewed.....Try to work physically Smarter with wheel Dollys (Moving heavy stuff, sand bags etc) & other Labor saving tools (sand Funnels, etc) as it Seems easy Now but all those Needless Daily anatomical strains & semi-Injurys add up & Hurt in your later life.... Keep the Good vids coming !!
I'm surprised you don't have some kind of jerry-rigged funnel for pouring the gravel in. I'd presume that dropping a foot of 4 inch pipe with a cap on it to plug the well so gravel doesn't go down it, then dropping a 12 inch to 6 inch reducer for air ducts on it would make your lives a lot easier in the rare situation where this occurs.
Those duct reducers are like 15 dollars, and I'd assume you've got some scrap PVC segments around for the temporary plug on the main well pipe. If a jerry-rigged tool like that saves even 15 minutes of labor once, that pays for itself, and it looks like it'd save you more than that. If you want to go extra lazy, get a vibrator for concrete or something similar and you'll be able to buzz the stuff down the funnel faster than one guy can slice open bags and pour.
Whats happening to show you when you hit water at the various levels? You are pushing water down there for your drill bit from another source right? How do you read your drill bit feedback?
13:50 watch the well pipe moving and shifting. so strange to watch.
Hello,
what type of machine do you use for drilling?
How can I buy it?
Not being a driller, I would think that slotted pipe creates a bit of a restriction and as a result the gpm of the well would decrease. What percentage of gpm do you loose when using slotted pipe? Would also be interesting to know what the end gpm is when the pump gets installed. Thanks
Do you do any work in NC? I am just over the line outside gasburg and am in need of well drilled. In process of building house now
Can you enlarge a well that is pre existing. My well is a 2" casing that uses a jet pump and was wondering if it could be enlarged
Same question as before and can you do a voice over by recreating this one and kind of explain why you only used one side to fill that gravel in and how it centers and will it have to be flushed out or what happens if the silt and sand fill the gaps between the rocks ….
But you're not centering the screen gravel is only on one side
How do you know that the water coming from 55' to 80' ?
That's west Tenn. sorry folks
What happened u accidental it oil lol
so will that gravel plug over years?
How deep was the 6 inch casing?
Are you going to do a follow-up video?
That's not a screen from the 60's lol
All wells here (the Netherlands) are screened. At the bottom comes a cap , only when the last meter or so is clay i don t use a cap , clay will close the bottom .
Seems you didn t use a bottomcap , but you have 3 sections of normal pipe at the bottom , that will work
Common slotted pipes are vertically slotted , gives a stronger pipe so you don t have to be so carefull . I m slotting my own pipe , a 125mm pipe with 0,5 mm slotts
Where are you located, Sir?
Higher volume irrigation , and commercial wells use a 12” to 16” casing with the screened sections only in a good aquifer and then gravel packed which acts as a filter and to keep the the screen centered I used wooden spacers wired around the screen about ever 15 ft to insure a even gravel pack. When gravel packing construct a device to meter a constant flow of gravel pack at a slow rate to prevent bridging and voids, on larger 16” wells 350+ deep would use many tandem truck loads using a 28” drill bit thus a large gravel pack area between 28” drill hole and 16” casing. When the well was started it was non stop to finish of gravel pack, no stopping at night, sometimes 25 hour operations. I enjoy your channel, good job
Video idea for ya. The DTH the breakdown and how it functions 🤷🏼♂️
I have a 2 line jet pump system. The head is 48" below grade, (i live in the north east) i plan to switch to a submersible with a pitless adaper and bring the well cap above grade. There's only so long the galvanized pipe will last before it leaks from the inside out.
Can you make a video on that conversion?
Hey man i got an issue going on. We have city water now, BUT we abandoned a cistern and 2 wells. NO pumps in either well or cistern. I just noticed my cistern is taking on water from the heavy rains. You can see where it goes into the ground at a high rate. When they abandoned the cistern they took off the casing and well seal. They closed it with a concrete paver the 3x3 or 4x4 broken in 2. through the years it flopped around in the dirt and moved. i got it all dug up now. Whats your best advice on sealing this FOR GOOD.
Hey, I read your message, it's hard to picture honestly. My recommendation is that if they aren't in use, I'd fill them with dirt or cement or a mixture of both.
@@h2omechanic No money for that. we live in the sticks. im just gonna go with the bowl glued into the top unless i can get a donut and glue some 6" SDR, bring it to surface and cap.
@@h2omechanic Thank you for the response man. much love to helping others. I know you get paid for your knowledge and skill so i respect that man. i sent my email if you want a photo
Worked with a driller years ago that would do mult stages of gravel to sand pack prior to the screen on big municipal wells 30 years later there still working well
Most of our wells were 600 foot of 8 10 and 12 welded casing 200 hundred foot of perf . Gravel within one hundred foot ad one hundred foot a concrete seal .
That's great information! It isn't every day that we can see a well get screened.
I've seen the slotted pipe before. After about 12 or so years, my well started to get some grit coming up. It was enough that I was needing to clean out the Rusco spin-down filter on the line to my geothermal heat pump every few days. My pump man took a length of that screen pipe about 5 or 6 feet long, slid a fine filter sock over it, tied the open end of the sock shut and secured the whole thing over my pump. That took care of about 99% of the grit that was coming into my filter.
Take care and God Bless.
Good video. More importantly, how’s your dog getting on?
That’s what they do in my area. Most of our water is in wet sand. Most don’t go into the rock here
Love the awesome info you shared here. Love your videos and all your info you share
How close to the coast was this job? Thanks for the good video!
I might’ve missed it, but did you put a cap on the bottom one?
Do some solar systems in water pumping
Never heard of a screened well before. Nice job.
Didn’t even know that was a thing!😅
How much water will it make?
Were yall close to the coast for this one?
Thank you....
Good video!
We do steel pipe and perforate it after. More durable but it's an expensive tool
Not much experience myself but trying to learn, read,watch a lot.
As far as i learned, Unless stainless steel, it is not necessarily more durable. They seem to have used a lot of galvanized in the past but eventually the rust goes through
Thanks!
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If that pipe is delicate why was he standing on the pipe strand afterward. If it is that delicate they think it will break lifting it off the ground
Isn’t that used for leach line also