I am a middle aged Chinese,I didn't have rednote on my phone,I thought I'm too old for that,but I downloaded it yesterday,just to give those American refugees a warm welcome😂
we been trying to tell you that the last 30 yrs lol maybe the last 20 on youtube.... yeah you know youtube cenorship..... people still prattling on about slaves in xingjiang and whatever social credit score!!!?? some of the bigger western youtubers that arent even political still reference this mythical chinese social credit score unintentionally ffs!!!! its like wake up west!! youre all the real sheep!!
Hold up there is definitely a social credit system in China. It may not be equally applied because for example my in-laws were from Fuzhou, one of those what they call second tier cities, does not seem to have this. There is a martial artist Chinese influencer who I follow has definitely hit the social credit system though. So basically that guy is someone who does MMA and he goes and he goes around and challenges the old school traditional Chinese martial arts, The so-called combat Masters that do Tai chi and so on. Well he attracted the attention of some officials who didn't like his rhetoric and his attack on what was perceived as traditional Chinese things and so he was prevented from using or writing airplanes or the high speed rail. I remember he complained that he had to take one of the slowest forms of transportation and stand for like 12 hours a day just to get to where he needed to go. And while I do think it's awesome that there is this cultural exchange and that ordinary Chinese and ordinary Americans are seeing that we are actually really the same (because remember y'all what we need to realize is that it's the rich against the poor). But this doesn't deny that they are real problems with what the Chinese government does. For example their stance towards Taiwan or the Uighurs, or the Tibetans, we must not ignore the real issues with the Chinese Communist party.
I lived in China in 2016, eastern China, Shanghai and Ningbo. I was blown away by the buildings, infrastructure, the food, the culture, the people. It blew my mind away, the technology, the development, the low cost of rent and food and transportation.
Agree, try going back to China today, it’s so much more technologically advanced than 2016, we went late last year, the whole place has lots of EVs, autonomous vehicles, robots delivering food everywhere and drones too, so cheap, so safe, love it!
This is a historical event even though I laugh a lot about what happened in Xiaohongshu. For the first time, American people and Chinese people communicate directly and are trying to understand each other.
Ben Norton is my hero & champion for calling out liars & fake news media. Learned so much from him on geopolitical issues. Thanks Ben, never get tired listening to you. Thanks Daniel for having Ben 🙏🙏🙏🐝
This incident is so strange. Suddenly, the Chinese doesn’t need to explain so painstakingly that they are being framed…. the Americans and their western cousins flocked willingly to a Chinese app to find out more about the truth of China. Free Advertising 😅
Thank you Daniel, for bringing Ben with you for walk and talk! Wonderful conversation! You two are the best exposing the False narratives of the USA and the west!
@@TacticalMayo The whole world despises you guys to some extent. That is not a good thing. America earned its freedom through the 1976 revolution against a world superpower who kept bullying it. Sounds familiar? Afterwards it became a student of its former boss. Became the very thing it once revolted against. Have you guys forgotten your own history or are you too prideful to learn from it? America has been digging its own grave for a long time. We are not in 1990 anymore, it is not as strong as it used to be, it is not even the most powerful country on earth since 2014. But its citizens dont know that because your government lies and manipulates you, and yet you keep moving with the same arrogance. Hence, the world does not respect you, and every day, it has less and less reasons to fear you.
China is not perfect, but China is perfect example of what a people-centered government should be. Providing affordable education, healthcare, ulility, housing, public transportation, etc. Everybody can benefit from the development of the country, not just the super rich. People may argue it’s not an elected government, but people forget about what we need a government for at all, good governance. If you keep electing a government backed by the wealthy, everyday people will never get a better life.
That is so inaccurate its not funny. My wife is mainland chinese, I speak and read mandarin, I have travelled extensively around china and worked there and I work with chinese businesspeople. Public transportation is about the only thing you came close to getting right - and china has extensive public transportation because of sheer numbers of people in the cities. Healthcare, you have to pay for. Its not that expensive for small things, but its huge for big things. And its not particularly good. If youre in hospital your family has to visit you to look after you. Nursing is not the same in China."ullity" I dont know what youre referring to. Housing is not great. Most people rent. And the food etc is cheap because the salaries and wages are very low for 90% of people. Just because you - a visiting foreigner - finds them cheap, doesnt mean the locals do. China gives you a sense of freedom because the place is badly governed, its tax system is a mess, and as a result it has minimal government workers. Which means laws dont get enforced in the public interest - until they are, at which point they are savagely enforced. The chinese government system doesnt work on being accountable under law - because it literally makes the law as it goes and judges answer to the government, not the law. There is an old chinese saying "kill the chicken to frighten the monkeys". And that how the chinese government rules: it makes savage examples of people to keep everyone else in fear. And it will do that however it wants. And you will have no comeback or avenue of redress if the "law" is misapplied to YOU. China's government is not 'people-centred". Not even close. Its about crowd control and keeping the privileged - and very corrupt - members of the CPC in power. Thats its sole goal. I love china. I love the people. And the sense of freedom in china - as a foreigner- feels intoxicating. But people should never forget that this is a fascist state that doesnt care about the individual and which will use an iron fist on you if it wants to. The ordinary chinese people ARE banned from many forms of information, and they are banned from many forms of self-expression and opinion sharing. And they know it - Even if the Wumao dont notice it. They mostly know they walk on eggshells and thats why the country seems calm. The problem is that most of these laowai never see the realities of china. Laowai - foreigners - wander around in china and they are treated delicately for the most part. But thats not the reality of China. Its ridiculous what people are saying about china. Its not true what the US government says about China, but its also not accurate what a lot of people - like these guys - are saying about china. Im not american, and neither China nor the USA are particularly good countries for ordinary people.
The way TikTok refugees are finding out about China through XiaoHongShu ("Little Red Book") reminds me of Night Shamalan's movie, The Village. When a villager or two finally find the circumstance or courage to reach beyond the village wall, the revelation is life-changing and life-affirming. This TikTok event is surely a Night Shamalan moment. (Or perhaps even he couldn't have thought of such a plot twist as TikTok-Rednote.)
i never used tiktok but my mom did and even she's on xiaohongshu now. i've talked to her about china a lot over the years but she's now really interested in the chinese model. many americans have become so totally disillusioned and resentful of their society that even the slightest bit of exposure to an alternative system that demonstrates a far more successful approach to 21st century human life can push them over the edge. as an american though, i personally was concerned that tons of americans moving into a chinese space would be frustrating for chinese folks but it seems to me as though many of the westerners who are visiting are genuinely open-minded, curious, and come in reasonably good faith. the chinese users deserve a ton of credit for facilitating this exchange, they've created a welcoming and decent online space that would likely have been denied to them had this happened the other way around
I guess as long as the tiktok refugees behave like a decent human and abide by the laws of China and respect others, I guess they would be enjoying themselves immensely. But if they start bringing their BS and wokeness in, I'm also guessing they would be hounded out too.
I believe this is a golden opportunity for our 2 peoples to interact with each other n disperse any misunderstanding because of the disinformation spread by the Western media. We welcome all Americans with good intentions to come to our cyber space!❤❤
I love how you two having discussion while taking a walk in the street of China. Just two intelligent people having a talk and concern of current situation between the two nations and pointing out some of the problems and sharing your thoughts with the world!! That's exactly the sign when you living in a peaceful environment should be!!
The funny irony in that act of defiance is that of all Chinese apps they could choose to spite the gvt, they picked the one that is the best at promoting tourism in China. The quality of content between tiktok/douyin vs xiaohingshu is completely different though, I hope those tiktokers who will stay on to create content, will follow the quality standard we already find on rednote /xiaohongshu. Nonetheless, I love what is happening, as in, American and Chinese netizens directly interacting with each other and seeing the love and friendship displayed so far. It's almost like when the Berlin wall fell and east and west Germans were meeting each other directly for the first time. I hope that this honeymoon period lasts for as long as possible.
@lxxhym oh there is but I find it much much easier to keep them away from my feed because there so much good quality content in there. Partly I think because it allows posts if just images and longer videos. You will find that there are a lot designers, artists, musician, craftmen, professional performers, putting their work up there, and I think the format in XHS help in presenting those work better then IG for example. It's also good search engine for travel to look for things to do and where to eat. That being said, I only found the "brain rot" stuff during the last few days as I have been watching this "first encounter" event. It's also very easy and quick to recalibrate the algorithm to switch back to my preferred. It's quite responsive. Get it and see for yourself if you can find something to your taste! Hope you enjoy!
That was a brilliant walk and talk. It's a credit to both of you to enlighten us. Unfortunately, many of my comments were also censored on UA-cam. The graffeti district of Chongqing is amazing.
I never even got into TikTok, but I joined Rednote yesterday. I absolutely love the fact the proposed TikTok ban backfired so spectacularly 😂 This is a great conversation.
Hello, TT refugees, thank you folks very much, indeed, for introducing RedNote to me. Yes, It is so nice to watch Chinese people and Americans interact.
Thanks host, first time to see your post. Subscribed. Hope to see you soon. Great video. Spoke the truth in China. I am a Hong Kong People, a Chinese. Thank you again.
I’m so so so glad that this TikTok migration or ban (whatever you want to call it) has blown up so big to this magnitude and developed into such a positive force! The USA government actually has created such a monster so unexpectedly and unwillingly 😂😂!! At first I thought of it as such a negative force for not only China but for the relationship between the 2 people of Chinese and Americans! Contrary and shockingly it has brought the 2 people much closer, and created a better understanding of each other! Best of all it opened the eyes of the American people who have never been to this NEW China !!!! I always have a saying to myself: “The more the USA government oppresses China the stronger China will become “! I hope Xiaohongshu continues to improve the algorithm and the ease of navigating the app to accommodate more foreign friends to get on board! May the friendship of the 2 people continue to improve ✊✊✌️✌️☮️☮️🙏🙏🙏
@@TacticalMayo thats why its ironic, in china people know some thing cant be spoken, meanwhile US is supposed to have freedom of speech but you got banned , sued, or jailedwhen you speak something that your apps provider dont like or worst the government
Great to see Ben Norton on the channel. Thanks to both for doing this important task of spreading truth. (Interesting to see some graffiti in China. This is the largest art district I have ever seen.)
21:04 CIA did that in 1959 in my state Kerala, India and dismissed first ever democratically elected communist government. Obviously with the help of right wing and catholic church. My father who was a hardcore catholic was part of the protests against the government. Decades later, he regretted about it.
I think they are doing it to ur country n mine 🇲🇻 rn cuz when all this conflict erupted I was very upset cuz I have visited India (different states too) so many times and no one had ever shown me hostility in India and it has such a rich and diverse culture that I rly admire. 😢 I was very confused because the tension kept building up n didn't stop.
I'm reminded of spontaneous fraternisation that broke out in the WWI trenches on Christmas one year. The German and English soldiers played football in no mans land. The English officers were upset at this and shot one of the Germans. I expect US to insert ppl to spoil the atmosphere in Red Note.
@@theresabarzee1463 i have no idea how this will develop. I have seen a surge of UA-cam videos sneering at the Gen Z for not being patriotic. .. who knows what else will develop. US House of Representatives has passed a bill to spend $1.6 billion on anti China propaganda .. it won't want ot see this go to waste because of normal folk seeing what China is really like.
What a great conversation! First time seeing your channel, had to subcribe. Ben Norton (Geopolitical Economy Report) has been my guy for 2 years now, his analysis are always on point and well reseached. Thanks both of you for what you're doing, be blessed🙏🏽
@@RayMak you know US is a lousy painter, when all they do is paint with lies...so much lies, the US are fooling not only their people but they themselves, the government becomes delusional.
Please continue sharing the truth of China pro & con to the world! As a Hong Kong Chinese, can’t tell you how excited I’m that people among different countries can finally see each other from any other angle or finally ordinary people got to communicate directly sharing daily living information.
The socioeconomic success China enjoys today is the result of over 3 decades of prudent central planning by dedicated CPC / CCP leadership. Long Live China! 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳
@@minhng7208Ben likes to go studie a country first hand..He's going to school in Beijing.. I believe he did the same in South America a few years ago.
Fantabulous discussion. I was getting a little motion sick walking along w/you both as you are talking ! Good thing no gum chewing too, eh!? Love this work. Thank you both!
13:05 Thanks Ben, for explaining about Xiaohongsu. Because, before that, i was wondering why many people think its just another Tiktok and after, i hear Ben explanation. I check the application itself and He's correct XiaoHongSu is more like Instagram than Tiktok.
For yrs, I've been following many foreign bloggers based in China, I feel this is the perfect time for them to all rise and guide these poor confused Americans on xhs 😂
The American government's fib blew up like a nuclear bomb when a tidal wave of TikTok refugees swarmed RedNote, turning it into the hottest new social media hangout. Talk about a plot twist!.
Great video once again, so informative love the casual walk and chat. It is truly so sad of so much hate, jealousy, misinfo of China and its people from the West, yet the West is completely falling apart. All they are waiting are bad news of China , whats with this sad mentality ? Facts are facts at the end of the day its clear which people are happier and have better access to life as a whole.
When I see my A Team together, I don't even care what they talk about. But as it happens, they're talking about some pretty exciting news on TikTok and XiaoHongShu. Epic.
Incredible !! Huge migration from Tic Toc to Red Note !! Another world's biggest migration on the way , Year Of The Snake !!😂 Nice video. Greetings from S'pore 🍺
Food prices at 1/7th of that in the US??? Everything else in China is so much more affordable??? Why??? Should Governments of the high cost nations be asking "how can they reduce that wide disparities". If we need to increase our efficiencies and be more competitive, we need to educate ourselves about how to go about it. Let's forget about misinforming our own people. It's costing us lots and not getting us anywhere.
It’s an excellent location to do the video, I’ve never seen graffiti art in China and this was the first time for me to see one… it was so fun, at some point I was paying more attention to the art than these two distinguished gentlemen. Make no mistake, they totally rock, I’m a fan of both. Daniel did a great service and courage covering the hk protest (I was there, and I thought it was both surreal and painful to see what was happening on the ground and yet reading news reports in mainstream media) , and Ben is amazing when it comes to explaining geopolitics - he was the first one for me to successfully explain and highlight the importance of China’s digital sovereignty 😊 I find it quite funny seeing Ben with a smile, he’s always been with a serious face on and it’s pretty evident he finds the whole xiaohongshu situation hilarious 🤣
Interesting seeing Ben in the wild and not confined to that office space. Also, they chose to walk in a graffitti section that is authorized by the govt. Banning Tik Tok led to Sino-US friendship among the youth.... Something that the Chinese president keep talking about when he was in SanFran. The youth are the future.
Thanks for the great video. I managed to listen throughout as well as seeing the environment there.😅 Not a Tiktok or XiaoHongShu user as I get my info about China through Chinese media.
Talking about media and digital sovereignty, Singapore has shown how to do it. By insisting on the right of reply to their “inaccuracies” and calling their bluff about free press by allowing them to publish but with all advertising removed.
Wow this sounds so incredible ❤I remember seeing a video of someone walking up to a kiosk & ordering food from a restaurant & a drone was flying in their air to deliver their food 😳. I was so mind blown! I’m in San Antonio, Texas & our city is further behind than other cities in the US so when we see things it’s like Whoooaaahh how convenient to get your food delivered like that!
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I am a middle aged Chinese,I didn't have rednote on my phone,I thought I'm too old for that,but I downloaded it yesterday,just to give those American refugees a warm welcome😂
Hilarious! Thank you. Ben's sweet truths & humour are essential honest diomacy, no?!
Good job!!
American refugees - priceless. 😂
@@micasa6493 it's going GLOBAL 😉
Thank you ! I love it there
I'm already adopted on RedNote and loving the community I've found. China is not what we've been told by our MSM
we been trying to tell you that the last 30 yrs lol maybe the last 20 on youtube.... yeah you know youtube cenorship..... people still prattling on about slaves in xingjiang and whatever social credit score!!!?? some of the bigger western youtubers that arent even political still reference this mythical chinese social credit score unintentionally ffs!!!! its like wake up west!! youre all the real sheep!!
‘But at what cost?’
You should tell them your ‘healthcare’ stories.
Me too. I posted about film photography and I am making international friends around a common love for 35mm
Hold up there is definitely a social credit system in China. It may not be equally applied because for example my in-laws were from Fuzhou, one of those what they call second tier cities, does not seem to have this.
There is a martial artist Chinese influencer who I follow has definitely hit the social credit system though.
So basically that guy is someone who does MMA and he goes and he goes around and challenges the old school traditional Chinese martial arts, The so-called combat Masters that do Tai chi and so on.
Well he attracted the attention of some officials who didn't like his rhetoric and his attack on what was perceived as traditional Chinese things and so he was prevented from using or writing airplanes or the high speed rail.
I remember he complained that he had to take one of the slowest forms of transportation and stand for like 12 hours a day just to get to where he needed to go.
And while I do think it's awesome that there is this cultural exchange and that ordinary Chinese and ordinary Americans are seeing that we are actually really the same (because remember y'all what we need to realize is that it's the rich against the poor).
But this doesn't deny that they are real problems with what the Chinese government does. For example their stance towards Taiwan or the Uighurs, or the Tibetans, we must not ignore the real issues with the Chinese Communist party.
@ Compare this to Western countries harassing journalists and using ‘no fly’ lists to prevent freedom of movement.
68 year old Pakistani woman here, I've already learnt how to say i love you in Mandarin. 😂 from rednote.
我爱你！ Wo ai ni!
“我爱你” English pronunciation：Wool、Eye、Knee
@@markzhang1866 Wall Eye Knee
Great start, keep learning! So many opportunities in BRICS nations. Best yr children learn for business prosperity.
Good on you.
Great news; RedNote is now world's famous app. Banning TT backfired big time.
@@TacticalMayo the US is having a bad ending not China
@@TacticalMayo and that is people trusting China more than the US 😂
@@TacticalMayo the US is a dying empire cursing the world. Well see
I followed the #tiktokrefugee movement too, but I'm from Indonesia 😂❤
Ban RedNote
I lived in China in 2016, eastern China, Shanghai and Ningbo. I was blown away by the buildings, infrastructure, the food, the culture, the people. It blew my mind away, the technology, the development, the low cost of rent and food and transportation.
Shalom, Bruder, upload videos from the part of cn . we want to see
Agree, try going back to China today, it’s so much more technologically advanced than 2016, we went late last year, the whole place has lots of EVs, autonomous vehicles, robots delivering food everywhere and drones too, so cheap, so safe, love it!
@@kstephenson9465 China has 5yrly targets and they always hit their targets!!!! So its guaranteed progress and no regress
My brother went in December and was amazed. America is a backwater when comparing in apples to apples. We have no equivalent in America.
I am a native of Ningbo,have traveled to over 20 countries. I would like to say that I am fortunate to live in Ningbo.
This is a historical event even though I laugh a lot about what happened in Xiaohongshu. For the first time, American people and Chinese people communicate directly and are trying to understand each other.
作为一个中国人 在美国控制下的这些软件 真的是被控制的世界而你们还不清楚
中美人民都成各自外交官了😅
the two sides people communicate to each other directly,you guys don’t need any more gouvernement foreign diplomats 😂.
Fabulous hey!
绕开中间商赚差价😂😂😂
Ben Norton (Geopoltical Economy Report), IMO the best Geoplitical analyst on youtube! Learned so much from his content.
Ben Norton is my hero & champion for calling out liars & fake news media. Learned so much from him on geopolitical issues. Thanks Ben, never get tired listening to you. Thanks Daniel for having Ben 🙏🙏🙏🐝
😄 She tell the truth on TikTok Ban
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American waking up........
One of the best for sure!
He is really inspiring. He actually go live in a country to better understand it. (He lived in South America and now China.)
👍 great talk.
Americans need to listen to these two guys
The Sound of Silence🤣
It's like a can of biscuits busted open. Everything is exposed, and they can't stuff the dough back in the can. I'm loving the whole thing.
This incident is so strange. Suddenly, the Chinese doesn’t need to explain so painstakingly that they are being framed…. the Americans and their western cousins flocked willingly to a Chinese app to find out more about the truth of China. Free Advertising 😅
Do you honestly think Chinese people are going to tell the truth about the CCP?
Thank you Daniel, for bringing Ben with you for walk and talk! Wonderful conversation! You two are the best exposing the False narratives of the USA and the west!
😊
So hyped to see two of my favs got together and shared a great conversation with us😊
On RedNote, the Chinese and American users are experiencing culture shock from both sides.
Oh we Americans feel the same way no matter what.
in fact, we chinese are not that shock....
i mean they been asking about if the fact that paying a fortune for ambulances is real cause they actually thought that was government propaganda lol
@@TacticalMayo and you are bragging about that😂🤡 how is your education system? Is it even safe? It might explain why you are saying this
@@TacticalMayo The whole world despises you guys to some extent. That is not a good thing.
America earned its freedom through the 1976 revolution against a world superpower who kept bullying it. Sounds familiar? Afterwards it became a student of its former boss. Became the very thing it once revolted against.
Have you guys forgotten your own history or are you too prideful to learn from it?
America has been digging its own grave for a long time. We are not in 1990 anymore, it is not as strong as it used to be, it is not even the most powerful country on earth since 2014. But its citizens dont know that because your government lies and manipulates you, and yet you keep moving with the same arrogance. Hence, the world does not respect you, and every day, it has less and less reasons to fear you.
China is not perfect, but China is perfect example of what a people-centered government should be. Providing affordable education, healthcare, ulility, housing, public transportation, etc. Everybody can benefit from the development of the country, not just the super rich. People may argue it’s not an elected government, but people forget about what we need a government for at all, good governance. If you keep electing a government backed by the wealthy, everyday people will never get a better life.
real
Totally agree with you 😊
100% agree!!!
That is so inaccurate its not funny. My wife is mainland chinese, I speak and read mandarin, I have travelled extensively around china and worked there and I work with chinese businesspeople. Public transportation is about the only thing you came close to getting right - and china has extensive public transportation because of sheer numbers of people in the cities. Healthcare, you have to pay for. Its not that expensive for small things, but its huge for big things. And its not particularly good. If youre in hospital your family has to visit you to look after you. Nursing is not the same in China."ullity" I dont know what youre referring to. Housing is not great. Most people rent. And the food etc is cheap because the salaries and wages are very low for 90% of people. Just because you - a visiting foreigner - finds them cheap, doesnt mean the locals do.
China gives you a sense of freedom because the place is badly governed, its tax system is a mess, and as a result it has minimal government workers. Which means laws dont get enforced in the public interest - until they are, at which point they are savagely enforced. The chinese government system doesnt work on being accountable under law - because it literally makes the law as it goes and judges answer to the government, not the law. There is an old chinese saying "kill the chicken to frighten the monkeys". And that how the chinese government rules: it makes savage examples of people to keep everyone else in fear. And it will do that however it wants. And you will have no comeback or avenue of redress if the "law" is misapplied to YOU. China's government is not 'people-centred". Not even close. Its about crowd control and keeping the privileged - and very corrupt - members of the CPC in power. Thats its sole goal.
I love china. I love the people. And the sense of freedom in china - as a foreigner- feels intoxicating. But people should never forget that this is a fascist state that doesnt care about the individual and which will use an iron fist on you if it wants to. The ordinary chinese people ARE banned from many forms of information, and they are banned from many forms of self-expression and opinion sharing. And they know it - Even if the Wumao dont notice it. They mostly know they walk on eggshells and thats why the country seems calm. The problem is that most of these laowai never see the realities of china. Laowai - foreigners - wander around in china and they are treated delicately for the most part. But thats not the reality of China.
Its ridiculous what people are saying about china. Its not true what the US government says about China, but its also not accurate what a lot of people - like these guys - are saying about china. Im not american, and neither China nor the USA are particularly good countries for ordinary people.
@@user-lv5bt3nt3r 内容基本真实。
The way TikTok refugees are finding out about China through XiaoHongShu ("Little Red Book") reminds me of Night Shamalan's movie, The Village. When a villager or two finally find the circumstance or courage to reach beyond the village wall, the revelation is life-changing and life-affirming.
This TikTok event is surely a Night Shamalan moment. (Or perhaps even he couldn't have thought of such a plot twist as TikTok-Rednote.)
i never used tiktok but my mom did and even she's on xiaohongshu now. i've talked to her about china a lot over the years but she's now really interested in the chinese model. many americans have become so totally disillusioned and resentful of their society that even the slightest bit of exposure to an alternative system that demonstrates a far more successful approach to 21st century human life can push them over the edge. as an american though, i personally was concerned that tons of americans moving into a chinese space would be frustrating for chinese folks but it seems to me as though many of the westerners who are visiting are genuinely open-minded, curious, and come in reasonably good faith. the chinese users deserve a ton of credit for facilitating this exchange, they've created a welcoming and decent online space that would likely have been denied to them had this happened the other way around
I guess as long as the tiktok refugees behave like a decent human and abide by the laws of China and respect others, I guess they would be enjoying themselves immensely. But if they start bringing their BS and wokeness in, I'm also guessing they would be hounded out too.
I believe this is a golden opportunity for our 2 peoples to interact with each other n disperse any misunderstanding because of the disinformation spread by the Western media. We welcome all Americans with good intentions to come to our cyber space!❤❤
I love how you two having discussion while taking a walk in the street of China.
Just two intelligent people having a talk and concern of current situation between the two nations and pointing out some of the problems and sharing your thoughts with the world!!
That's exactly the sign when you living in a peaceful environment should be!!
Good to see two of my favorite geopolitical analysts together
The funny irony in that act of defiance is that of all Chinese apps they could choose to spite the gvt, they picked the one that is the best at promoting tourism in China. The quality of content between tiktok/douyin vs xiaohingshu is completely different though, I hope those tiktokers who will stay on to create content, will follow the quality standard we already find on rednote /xiaohongshu. Nonetheless, I love what is happening, as in, American and Chinese netizens directly interacting with each other and seeing the love and friendship displayed so far. It's almost like when the Berlin wall fell and east and west Germans were meeting each other directly for the first time. I hope that this honeymoon period lasts for as long as possible.
As an artist, I plan on keeping my account because of the quality standard. The community there is wonderful so far.
I'm abt to download it cos im intrigued. You mean there are no "brain rots" in rednote?
@@lxxhym May i know what you mean by "brain rots"?
@lxxhym oh there is but I find it much much easier to keep them away from my feed because there so much good quality content in there. Partly I think because it allows posts if just images and longer videos. You will find that there are a lot designers, artists, musician, craftmen, professional performers, putting their work up there, and I think the format in XHS help in presenting those work better then IG for example. It's also good search engine for travel to look for things to do and where to eat.
That being said, I only found the "brain rot" stuff during the last few days as I have been watching this "first encounter" event. It's also very easy and quick to recalibrate the algorithm to switch back to my preferred. It's quite responsive. Get it and see for yourself if you can find something to your taste! Hope you enjoy!
I'm downloading Xiao Hong Shu in solidarity with the TikTokers, hardworking people, who see through the hypocrisy and insanity of geopolitics games.
Be careful, CIA(Chinese Intercultural Agency )is listening in eith Huawei smartphone 🤔
Did u pay cat tax?
That was a brilliant walk and talk. It's a credit to both of you to enlighten us. Unfortunately, many of my comments were also censored on UA-cam. The graffeti district of Chongqing is amazing.
Wow been following Ben for a while! Nice to see you guys get together
I never even got into TikTok, but I joined Rednote yesterday. I absolutely love the fact the proposed TikTok ban backfired so spectacularly 😂 This is a great conversation.
Same! TT never interested me, but I downloaded RedNote and it's been lovely so far. I'm also planning to learn Mandarin hopefully.
Same! I've never used TT, but I've been loving the welcoming RedNote community. Hopefully, I can start learning Mandarin soon.
Learned more from this than any US news outlet 👏
Hello, TT refugees, thank you folks very much, indeed, for introducing RedNote to me. Yes, It is so nice to watch Chinese people and Americans interact.
ＷＯＷＯＷＯ！Two of my most favorite Western China commenters are making a video together!!!! EPIC
Thank you Ben Norton and Daniel Dumbrill for unbrainwashing me about China and communism
It is the trend towards unity in the whole world.
This has to be the biggest own goal in history to ban TikTok 😂
Glad to see you guys doing walk and talk together! Really enjoyed it!
Thanks host, first time to see your post. Subscribed. Hope to see you soon. Great video. Spoke the truth in China. I am a Hong Kong People, a Chinese. Thank you again.
Nice to see Ben and Dan together.
ben and dan? you mean bendan!
I’m so so so glad that this TikTok migration or ban (whatever you want to call it) has blown up so big to this magnitude and developed into such a positive force! The USA government actually has created such a monster so
unexpectedly and unwillingly 😂😂!!
At first I thought of it as such a negative force for not only China but for the relationship between the 2 people of Chinese and Americans! Contrary and shockingly it has brought the 2 people much closer, and created a better understanding of each other! Best of all it opened the eyes of the American people who have never been to this NEW China !!!!
I always have a saying to myself: “The more the USA government oppresses China the stronger China will become “!
I hope Xiaohongshu continues to improve the algorithm and the ease of navigating the app to accommodate more foreign friends to get on board!
May the friendship of the 2 people continue to improve ✊✊✌️✌️☮️☮️🙏🙏🙏
I've signed up to RedNote and it's beautiful. I'm sort of lost still but I'm determined and smiling so much. ❤
Welcome u to be there. U can come to me for help if u need. I am a Chinese using the app
In USA, "freedom of speech" is conditional
@@TacticalMayo thats why its ironic, in china people know some thing cant be spoken, meanwhile US is supposed to have freedom of speech but you got banned , sued, or jailedwhen you speak something that your apps provider dont like or worst the government
As it has always been the case.
@@TacticalMayo Same as you open your house door or window to talk to someone outside. You don't allow jsut any filth to come to your house right?
In China "freedom of speech" is life threatening.
Just like their bank advertisement. There's a very small * on the corner that you can barely see it that said *terms and conditions apply*
Great to see Ben Norton on the channel. Thanks to both for doing this important task of spreading truth.
(Interesting to see some graffiti in China. This is the largest art district I have ever seen.)
21:04 CIA did that in 1959 in my state Kerala, India and dismissed first ever democratically elected communist government. Obviously with the help of right wing and catholic church. My father who was a hardcore catholic was part of the protests against the government. Decades later, he regretted about it.
I think they are doing it to ur country n mine 🇲🇻 rn cuz when all this conflict erupted I was very upset cuz I have visited India (different states too) so many times and no one had ever shown me hostility in India and it has such a rich and diverse culture that I rly admire. 😢 I was very confused because the tension kept building up n didn't stop.
Two of the greats in geopolitics together going on a walk and talk? Sign me up!
I love TRUTH tellers, God bless all truth tellers on earth.
I'm reminded of spontaneous fraternisation that broke out in the WWI trenches on Christmas one year. The German and English soldiers played football in no mans land. The English officers were upset at this and shot one of the Germans.
I expect US to insert ppl to spoil the atmosphere in Red Note.
Point taken. Yet they seem to be able to take down the indiscretions of foolish ego pretty well,no?!
@@theresabarzee1463 i have no idea how this will develop. I have seen a surge of UA-cam videos sneering at the Gen Z for not being patriotic. .. who knows what else will develop. US House of Representatives has passed a bill to spend $1.6 billion on anti China propaganda .. it won't want ot see this go to waste because of normal folk seeing what China is really like.
What a great conversation! First time seeing your channel, had to subcribe. Ben Norton (Geopolitical Economy Report) has been my guy for 2 years now, his analysis are always on point and well reseached. Thanks both of you for what you're doing, be blessed🙏🏽
The best collab I did expect to have 🎉
China is beautiful. But US paint a really ugly picture 😂
@@RayMak you know US is a lousy painter, when all they do is paint with lies...so much lies, the US are fooling not only their people but they themselves, the government becomes delusional.
Please continue sharing the truth of China pro & con to the world! As a Hong Kong Chinese, can’t tell you how excited I’m that people among different countries can finally see each other from any other angle or finally ordinary people got to communicate directly sharing daily living information.
Daniel and Ben simply great ❤❤❤
The significance is no less than the fall of the Berlin Wall.
The socioeconomic success China enjoys today is the result of over 3 decades of prudent central planning by dedicated CPC / CCP leadership. Long Live China! 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳
This was incredible. Instant follow.
Glad to see Ben Norton & You.😊😊
two of my favorites Ytuber! hope to see you guys on rednote too!😃
Is it? Can you share me their ID in rednote? I'm love their video too.
Lot of Americans were thinking America should save China and now, my God!
China has survived for a few thousand years. What does it need saving from? Ignorance?
I still can't believe Ben Norton is now in China lol
@@TacticalMayoWhat happened?
@@minhng7208 He is a victim of democracy 😂
@@minhng7208Ben likes to go studie a country first hand..He's going to school in Beijing.. I believe he did the same in South America a few years ago.
@@minhng7208 tactical mayo is a famous sore loser and troll obviously that frequents many of these chinese channels
Fantabulous discussion. I was getting a little motion sick walking along w/you both as you are talking ! Good thing no gum chewing too, eh!? Love this work. Thank you both!
RED Note suddenly pushed to stardom. Thanks to sleepy Joe
LOL. As if the entire Republican Party hasn’t been screaming for years about the “pernicious” effect of TikTok. 😂
13:05 Thanks Ben, for explaining about Xiaohongsu.
Because, before that, i was wondering why many people think its just another Tiktok and after, i hear Ben explanation. I check the application itself and He's correct XiaoHongSu is more like Instagram than Tiktok.
Fantastic video on a new awakening of those courageous TikTok refugees thanks to Ben & Daniel, Truth prevails Truth conquers 😊
Yep!! I'm there !! Since 3 days ago, and I'm vastly happy therem talking about Luigi without my comments being censored and deleted ❤
Great seeing Ben here and talking about this with you. ✌🏼
Wonderful colab.
Such vibe and so informative. Thanks guys.
In January 2025, the civilian-to-civilian "China-US Reconciliation" international operation officially began on the Rednote App!
Daniel & Ben, it couldn't get any better!:)
For yrs, I've been following many foreign bloggers based in China, I feel this is the perfect time for them to all rise and guide these poor confused Americans on xhs 😂
This is the best news 🤣🤣little red book 📕 now Americans will study way more about China like so many of us already have
The American government's fib blew up like a nuclear bomb when a tidal wave of TikTok refugees swarmed RedNote, turning it into the hottest new social media hangout. Talk about a plot twist!.
As they say: Be careful what you wished for.
Have to share this now. Thanks, gentlemen. Excellent work!
Great video once again, so informative love the casual walk and chat. It is truly so sad of so much hate, jealousy, misinfo of China and its people from the West, yet the West is completely falling apart. All they are waiting are bad news of China , whats with this sad mentality ? Facts are facts at the end of the day its clear which people are happier and have better access to life as a whole.
These two are finally best friends....AWESOME!😅
Fascinating discussion 📯📣📢🎤📻
The whole thing is so hilarious, it even restored some of my faith in humanity.
Anyway good conversation, Daniel and Ben 👍😄
When I see my A Team together, I don't even care what they talk about.
But as it happens, they're talking about some pretty exciting news on TikTok and XiaoHongShu. Epic.
I love Ben Norton and Daniel I hope you carry on for a long time thank you for telling the true
A very meaningful and informative conversation you both had there. I enjoyed listening to it. Thanks..!!
I'm a 73 year old american woman. I downloaded the rednote tik tok, but i dont know how to talk with any chinese individuals on the app 😢😢
Don’t worry, soon there will be translation in REDNOTE.
Thanks for the independent news report from the streets.
Always great to listen to these two brilliant thinkers. Just enjoyed the discussion so much
Incredible !! Huge migration from Tic Toc to Red Note !! Another world's biggest migration on the way , Year Of The Snake !!😂 Nice video. Greetings from S'pore 🍺
Great chat from both ❤
Food prices at 1/7th of that in the US??? Everything else in China is so much more affordable???
Why??? Should Governments of the high cost nations be asking "how can they reduce that wide disparities". If we need to increase our efficiencies and be more competitive, we need to educate ourselves about how to go about it. Let's forget about misinforming our own people. It's costing us lots and not getting us anywhere.
Knowlegable Ben for China and world in Peace.
Thank you Daniel. Your work is moving world history. Keep up the good work 🙏
I live in the uk and it's number one here too! LOL the only effect of the ban seems to have been global promotion of a genuine overtly Chinese app.
It’s an excellent location to do the video, I’ve never seen graffiti art in China and this was the first time for me to see one… it was so fun, at some point I was paying more attention to the art than these two distinguished gentlemen. Make no mistake, they totally rock, I’m a fan of both. Daniel did a great service and courage covering the hk protest (I was there, and I thought it was both surreal and painful to see what was happening on the ground and yet reading news reports in mainstream media) , and Ben is amazing when it comes to explaining geopolitics - he was the first one for me to successfully explain and highlight the importance of China’s digital sovereignty 😊
I find it quite funny seeing Ben with a smile, he’s always been with a serious face on and it’s pretty evident he finds the whole xiaohongshu situation hilarious 🤣
It happened in the 13th century BCE the last time in the Red Sea, I'm not going to miss it this time with the Little Red Book.
Actually this will be Revelations.
@@TacticalMayorevelations is a shroom trip and you seem to be a burnout so I guess you'd know
Good to have revelation in US.@@TacticalMayo
我不得不搜索一下13世纪的红海发生了什么事😅
@@roland-100what happened?
Interesting seeing Ben in the wild and not confined to that office space. Also, they chose to walk in a graffitti section that is authorized by the govt. Banning Tik Tok led to Sino-US friendship among the youth.... Something that the Chinese president keep talking about when he was in SanFran. The youth are the future.
Thanks for the great video. I managed to listen throughout as well as seeing the environment there.😅
Not a Tiktok or XiaoHongShu user as I get my info about China through Chinese media.
The graffiti wall is amazing and colourful.😮❤
Excellent show, thank you.
Both of you are fantastic!
Nice to see Daniel and Ben together. Thank you for the video.
Great to see you again, Daniel.
Ben, you have become a very reliable truth teller for me to reference and also recommend. Thanks!
this us historic moments for two national people... welcome to china😊
We need all the alternate news sites we can get, thanks for the facts!!👍👍
Ben and Den are great for China and world❤❤❤❤
Glad to see you twoo together.
I love this format!
Talking about media and digital sovereignty, Singapore has shown how to do it. By insisting on the right of reply to their “inaccuracies” and calling their bluff about free press by allowing them to publish but with all advertising removed.
Just downloaded The Little Red Book
Thank you both for your this sharing🙏👍🙏
Wow this sounds so incredible ❤I remember seeing a video of someone walking up to a kiosk & ordering food from a restaurant & a drone was flying in their air to deliver their food 😳. I was so mind blown! I’m in San Antonio, Texas & our city is further behind than other cities in the US so when we see things it’s like Whoooaaahh how convenient to get your food delivered like that!
I loved the walk through both outdoors and the informative conversation style. Thank you!